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Dorian Yates(1993) vs Jay Cutler(2009) vs Phil Heath(2011) 

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This is a 3 way comparison between Dorian Yates from 1993, Jay Cutler from 2009 and Phil Heath from 2011 all from the Mr. Olympia event.
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0:00 Intro
1:34 Front Double Biceps
3:21 Front Lat Spread
4:51 Side Chest
6:24 Side Triceps
8:07 Rear Lat Spread
10:47 Rear Double Biceps
12:40 Abs & Thigh
13:54 Most Muscular
16:54 Conclusion
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@May-D97
@May-D97 Месяц назад
Oh, this was interesting. I had Phil, Jay then Dorian. Phil needs more recognition for his back, it's incredible.
@jual-rakid
@jual-rakid Месяц назад
Agree, objectively Phil over dorian, but I dont how's the technology compare between their times
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Месяц назад
@@jual-rakid Dorian is a lot bigger than Phil. Jay beat Phil because he had a bigger frame. Dorian has an even bigger frame than Jay. He has the thin skin like Phil too. Honestly I expected the leg difference to be much more than it was. Pics are different than reality, distance to the camera and the lense used play a huge part.
@konev13thebeast
@konev13thebeast Месяц назад
@@paulcox2447 Jay beat Phil before phil grew his back
@CoffeeIceScream
@CoffeeIceScream Месяц назад
More & more I find myself looking forward to these daily comparisons. Often times seeing the RU-vid notification saying Marx Max has uploaded a video NOW, is actually the high point of my day. So THANK YOU Marx Max Muscle for brightening my day with your faulty videos and famous body builder, Simpsons & other😅 impressions single handedly turning me into an fanboy of the sport.
@jameswebster5672
@jameswebster5672 Месяц назад
Wish we had high definition pics of Dorian from 93 O.
@Panos-xy1ke
@Panos-xy1ke Месяц назад
If we had... Game over for everyone!!!
@ovathere93
@ovathere93 Месяц назад
Wow. This was rough. Great great video.
@JackBlue31
@JackBlue31 Месяц назад
I dig your commentaries, brother.
@gyorgycserna3678
@gyorgycserna3678 Месяц назад
Marx Max Muscle - I have always liked your sense of humour - but this time you've jumped to another level 😆 At the same time, you have presented a really fair comparison. All in all, it is a complex and professional job. Congrats and Thanx! Keep going on like this! 💪
@skebo5371
@skebo5371 Месяц назад
These three have more calves than the whole 23 olympia lineup😅
@nickbritten8132
@nickbritten8132 Месяц назад
Fantastic battle.
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 Месяц назад
THX Marx 👍🏼👍🏼
@brandonwallick7504
@brandonwallick7504 Месяц назад
Good work here. Please compare Dorian’s first O and Haneys last. It would be so close!
@krystofodehnal9448
@krystofodehnal9448 Месяц назад
Ehm... Dorian's first O is Haney's last. You mean Dorian's first win?
@existentialcrisis31
@existentialcrisis31 Месяц назад
He already did this video. It's called could Lee Haney get 9 titles or something like that
@georgebuckheit1261
@georgebuckheit1261 Месяц назад
@@krystofodehnal9448 Come on man, Haney had him, I agree it was close but Lee had a better chest, backs were close but I still would give it Lee. But again, this is just my opinion.
@krystofodehnal9448
@krystofodehnal9448 Месяц назад
@@georgebuckheit1261 I didn't say that Yates should won in 91. I was answering the comment. I thought he didn't know that Yates already was competing on Haneys last Olympia
@dj_m1999
@dj_m1999 Месяц назад
@@georgebuckheit1261 Haney lost the mandatory poses to Yates in '91
@heavymetalhero08
@heavymetalhero08 Месяц назад
Arms are too important for most muscular so Dorian doesn't have a chance in that pose regardless
@logangodofcandy
@logangodofcandy Месяц назад
Most muscular is quads and arms. Nothing else mattera in the pose
@bigmike913
@bigmike913 Месяц назад
That side tri of Dorian is so nasty ❤❤
@YMESYDT
@YMESYDT Месяц назад
I had Phil winning way more poses than I expected, including overall. Dude's a monster.
@IVEdge
@IVEdge Месяц назад
Really you didn’t expect it? Phil is the most gifted and winningest of the bunch.
@bilbob7624
@bilbob7624 Месяц назад
phil's back is INSANE
@bigpapaadam1
@bigpapaadam1 Месяц назад
Jay was as wide as a freaking barn door!!! Shoulders continued on the next page lol
@ethangilworth7891
@ethangilworth7891 Месяц назад
I like Phil the best.
@ethangilworth7891
@ethangilworth7891 Месяц назад
Thanks for the video mark, this is a real interesting one. Makes it so much more interesting seeing them in a lineup
@Gnybr
@Gnybr Месяц назад
He is too narrow especially compared to Jay and Dorian
@awaxdem2013
@awaxdem2013 Месяц назад
But he wins at absolutely everything other than that. It is completely complete and symmetrical, different from the other 2. Easy victory for Phil, you have to be very nostalgic to think otherwise.​@@Gnybr
@MikeG82
@MikeG82 Месяц назад
Nope Dorian easily takes it
@valerioscharer4676
@valerioscharer4676 Месяц назад
Doesn't matter since his v taper is as good due to having tiny hips while dorian and Jay could give birth with their wide hips​. Having wide shoulders gives you a big advantage IF your hips are also tiny. It's all about proportion@@Gnybr
@benjyperez5606
@benjyperez5606 Месяц назад
Never been a big fan of Phil’s but he won the majority of these poses. Jay and Dorian had a better front relaxed and front double bi imo (largely due to their width and Phil’s abdominals) but Phil either clearly won or edged them out on the remaining poses.
@patrick22014
@patrick22014 Месяц назад
Phil is just on another level.
@robchicano1986
@robchicano1986 Месяц назад
1 phillip 2 jason 3 dorian
@May-D97
@May-D97 Месяц назад
Same 👍, I like Phil for the 3d effect and amazing back. Jay has a great shape and such wide shoulders. Dorian just didn't impress so much, and I'm a Brit 😬
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
Jay himself said dorian would beat him and phil.....
@tonygoshive785
@tonygoshive785 Месяц назад
In todays standard, Phil wins hands down. Back then, Dorian was considered the greatest because he was the first to being that level of mass and conditioning.
@MikeG82
@MikeG82 Месяц назад
Nope Dorian wins
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
to say Phil wins HANDS DOWN is laughable is he more muscular than Yates or Cutler? F NO is he more conditioned than Yates? F NO With Jay he is similarly conditioned. Does he have better qurter turns than Yates or Cutler? F NO aka he isnt ahead on ANY of the 3 objective judging criteria-symmetry, muscularity or conditioning Odds are he is 2nd at best in this Keep in mind one thing , in 2010 Phil was 95 % of what he became in 2011. A worse Jay than the one here edged him out. 11 Phil is MAYBE 5 % superior to the 2010 Phil. 09 Jay is at least 10 % superior to 2010 Jay.... So IRL Jay will beat him, not just Yates ps. Jay himself said on various podcasts Dorian would beat his 09 version or Phil....
@user-rc7hz5ks6c
@user-rc7hz5ks6c Месяц назад
​@@TheLusianPopahahahahaha Dorian Yates of 1993 would not even qualify for olympia.
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
@@user-rc7hz5ks6c current head judge said Dorian 93 was UNBEATABLE and did not look human but if you know better
@krystofodehnal9448
@krystofodehnal9448 Месяц назад
@@user-rc7hz5ks6c 🤣🤣 mate, you must be ret@rded.. it is the other way around... Current Mr O from last 5 years would not qualify in the 90s
@ditchcomfort
@ditchcomfort 27 дней назад
Jay is the GOAT in my honest opinion. I don’t care what people are saying and everything. He’s been doing so much for BB and absolutely a beast.
@mojay-mz9ip
@mojay-mz9ip Месяц назад
In THESE particular still pictures i have to give it to Phil. Just has everything. Size, aesthetics, condition and that 3d pop and roundness to the muscle.
@bigmike913
@bigmike913 Месяц назад
This is for the viewer's pleasure stop hating on Mark
@tomyetiben176
@tomyetiben176 14 дней назад
People talk about Nick’s front lay spread but look at jayyyyyy!
@ditchcomfort
@ditchcomfort 27 дней назад
I have never understood the hype of Dorian. But I don’t know. Never been my cup of tea.
@loganslocum4799
@loganslocum4799 Месяц назад
Not a chance Dorian beats Phil ever. Phil heath is the 2nd greatest bb of all time. Dorian on stage against Phil would be destroyed by the Dr’s 3D muscle
@sujandrawingchannel4360
@sujandrawingchannel4360 Месяц назад
Photo Comparison is different if it would be live these guys in Same "stage" Era Jay could be winning by huge size n wide frame, it could be the result, bcoz Dexter was a full of Ripped n nailed with his condition although he was looking smaller than Jay on 2008 so he lost the match 😅
@acecutler6929
@acecutler6929 Месяц назад
Jay is so wiiiiide especially on front relax pose.
@shredphreek
@shredphreek Месяц назад
The way i see it, jay wins the fdb, and probably on par with phil for the sc, then it's just dorian and phil battling it out for the rest. Although yates never had the thickest pecs, he did have a massive ribcage, and i do like the way he strikes the sc.. just like the golden era guys, with the chest held high and ribcage fully expanded👊
@krisztianmezei888
@krisztianmezei888 Месяц назад
Next video classic Bumstead - Flex Wheeler - Lee Haney - Vince Taylor
@themonsoon117
@themonsoon117 Месяц назад
Dorians thighs and arms are really undersized in several shots. His legs disappear from the back, the side, the front, and his arms only look impressive in the Side tricep. Everytime I see a comparison with yates, commenters just give the guy a free pass on leg size. Dorians thighs look like Brandon curry’s from the back.
@adamhsr
@adamhsr Месяц назад
i can tell you dont know much. Look at their legs. U realize they now point them outward. In the 90s the keep them straight. They could barely flex their hamstrings and glutes. If phil and jay stood the same itd look small too when you look at their legs without the quads sticking out. Look at the side chest pose and see how massive his legs were in comparison to a back double bicep.
@hkfan746
@hkfan746 Месяц назад
Considering all three men were 5'9", it really is striking how different each competitor is on structure. Phil's arms are ridiculous. I think they're better than even Ronnie....
@thomasj6814
@thomasj6814 Месяц назад
Ronnie had better biceps but no triceps, I agree
@light-qe3gv
@light-qe3gv Месяц назад
Jay 09 is so overrated, 01 is the best
@spotos5154
@spotos5154 Месяц назад
I like 06 the best
@DCJayhawk57
@DCJayhawk57 Месяц назад
Even though Phil has that bubble muscle and thin skin, where is the detail? Dorian photos are on 30 year old cameras, yet he looks drier and more detailed than either of the other two. Just look at his lower back in the back double. Phil has separation due to his shape, but his low back is smooth as a baby's bottom. Jay has no lower lats or Christmas tree at all, looking like recent Big Ramy. I just don't think anyone comes in condition like they did in the 90s, it's gotta be the substances they use that cause them to hold more water. The style of posing doesn't help Dorian in these comparisons, either. Dorian poses more like the Golden Era than people today. Phil is clearly the most complete and balanced here, Jay is the biggest, and Dorian is the most conditioned-appearing.
@ditchcomfort
@ditchcomfort 27 дней назад
Phil is also awesome!
@FATT134
@FATT134 Месяц назад
1995
@OneNation_SpeakTruth
@OneNation_SpeakTruth Месяц назад
Phil Heath is 5,9. The actual comparison would be much different. Phil Heath is amazing but height matters for impression
@logangodofcandy
@logangodofcandy Месяц назад
Phil's narrow clavicle just looks terrible in all front shots. He is NOT aesthetic
@zbigwojciechowski7575
@zbigwojciechowski7575 Месяц назад
What about Lee H...
@nicolascasanova3918
@nicolascasanova3918 Месяц назад
He'd be like a classic physique next to these guys
@sethbagalman3819
@sethbagalman3819 Месяц назад
Lee was indeed phenomenal, especially his final year 1991. He retired at 31 years of age! This is way before even reaching his prime!!! Can you imagine just how much bigger and better he'd been, if he'd gone after a 9th or even 10th title in 1992 and 1993, respectively. Lee WAS the Ronnie Coleman of his era. The very best Olympians tried and tried to dethrone Haney. Names like Rich Gispari, Berry Demey, Lee Labrada, Albert Beckles and even Dorian Yates. But they all kept coming up short, because Haney was so Big, Wide, Thick and all with a tiny waist.
@kennywright88
@kennywright88 Месяц назад
@@sethbagalman3819so underrated dude!
@nickvtguitar546
@nickvtguitar546 Месяц назад
"Placed good" ahaha
@stephenbanks5860
@stephenbanks5860 Месяц назад
Jay's unaligned abs always stick out to me. I still think he was incredible though.
@gavinmarion4550
@gavinmarion4550 Месяц назад
He had a better mid section than both Phil and Yates IMO.
@ontheferrynorway8900
@ontheferrynorway8900 Месяц назад
Bad pictures, you have to find some good videoes with similar quality sir..
@user-zk7xn2xx9y
@user-zk7xn2xx9y Месяц назад
Between the three you listed #1 PHIL, #2 JAY, #3 DORIAN..
@user-zk7xn2xx9y
@user-zk7xn2xx9y Месяц назад
You should have did a four way, with the clear winner, THE ONE TRUE KING, THE GOAT, RONNIE COLEMAN....
@mrx.a.rbeatz1507
@mrx.a.rbeatz1507 Месяц назад
Phill wins easly
@austin-dl1wp
@austin-dl1wp Месяц назад
dorians front double bi has the most symmetry and beautiful posing out of the 3, bodybuilding standards aside
@user-rc7hz5ks6c
@user-rc7hz5ks6c Месяц назад
Yeah true hahahahah look at his arms and lats as compare to Phil.
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 Месяц назад
Like wtf ? His left lat is twice the size of the right one! And what about Dorian's legs? The left quad is non existent, but he was always given a pass about that.
@dj_m1999
@dj_m1999 Месяц назад
@@francescoporcari8597 2:20 his lats are literally the same, what are you yapping about? Do you not see the shadow on his right lat? 4:00 literally the same lats. 4:00 same quads also Seriously, do you think we're not watching the same video, or?
@primeanomalous4275
@primeanomalous4275 Месяц назад
Marble shale and granite lol ! 😂
@jayhunnaturalbodybuilding4049
@jayhunnaturalbodybuilding4049 Месяц назад
Best Phil Heath
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb Месяц назад
Dorian takes this
@padrino007
@padrino007 Месяц назад
Phil’s calves are tiny compared to Dorian’s and they had a more advanced juice science behind them, the shadow takes it by a point for me
@IVEdge
@IVEdge Месяц назад
Purely insertions. Dorian has the Anglo calves and Phil has black guy calves.
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 Месяц назад
What about dorian completely missing his right quad?
@patrick22014
@patrick22014 Месяц назад
It's genetics, just like Dorian has shit biceps and no leg sweep.
@dj_m1999
@dj_m1999 Месяц назад
@@francescoporcari8597 1:50 Idk his right quad looks 95% the same as his left one here
@lamontbillingslb
@lamontbillingslb Месяц назад
This is not even a contest Phil all day
@BrianB-dz5db
@BrianB-dz5db Месяц назад
Each of these guys were great for the time they were champions so no real overall winner here. Time marches on. @12:36 will you look at the belly of Yates' hamstrings??? Crazy, looks like a balloon, blows the other guys away.
@gunitmatthewjames
@gunitmatthewjames Месяц назад
Where is ronnie
@stephenbanks5860
@stephenbanks5860 Месяц назад
This is for the number 2 spot under Ronnie
@benboukhrisyoussef4781
@benboukhrisyoussef4781 Месяц назад
Fdb : phill Fls : Dorian Sc : jay St : Dorian BLS : phill (yeah Dorian is still not as developed yet) Bdb : a waw phill perfect Aat : Dorian Mm : phill Phill would win if it was between them 😂
@Horrorfreak86
@Horrorfreak86 Месяц назад
Big Ron would smoke all of them
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 Месяц назад
Why not 2013 Phil? He was at his best there. Phil's most muscular crab is incredible! 😮
@sethbagalman3819
@sethbagalman3819 Месяц назад
I 100% agree with you. Marx was stating he used the best versions of each. 2011 Phil was awesome, but yeah... 2013 Phil was straight up out of this world. Bigger, harder and rounder.
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ Месяц назад
And 2001 Jay was better too
@trentenmerrill5239
@trentenmerrill5239 Месяц назад
"Doctor Phil" as the nickname for "Phil Heath" is so funny lol. It's fuckin awesome. I will always think of him as that from now on
@user-hi9gd8rq6c
@user-hi9gd8rq6c Месяц назад
But what is the background of that I never understood
@greengoblin9567
@greengoblin9567 Месяц назад
@@user-hi9gd8rq6c It means that he is cooking something when it comes to big round muscle bellies and clear, thin, skin.
@Agreald
@Agreald Месяц назад
​@@user-hi9gd8rq6c Phil Heath Domination PhD, Dr Phil
@marekkram5608
@marekkram5608 Месяц назад
Yates all day
@thebodybeatdownDiTi
@thebodybeatdownDiTi Месяц назад
I'm not so sure on the outcome on this one.
@mickeyt3707
@mickeyt3707 6 дней назад
1995 Dorian easily beats the three of them
@marekkram5608
@marekkram5608 Месяц назад
Yates sharp huge
@conniealvarez4452
@conniealvarez4452 Месяц назад
No way does Yates beats 11 Phil Phil eats both their lunches all day long
@krystofodehnal9448
@krystofodehnal9448 Месяц назад
nope
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
yates doesnt beat heath he CRUSHES HIM Way more size and hardness and even balance phil barely beat in 11 an old injured blocky jay there s a time and place where phil beats a peaked Yates, its called NEVER and NOWHERE
@NicksFitnessYT
@NicksFitnessYT Месяц назад
@@TheLusianPopabro you have no life, commenting on literally every comment just sucking off Dorian. Make sure to wipe the spit and cum from your mouth when you’re done, bud👍🏼
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb Месяц назад
You are right
@santitaboada1460
@santitaboada1460 Месяц назад
Phil first, dorian second, the fridge...third so far away
@hsuilungmarcdacascos4079
@hsuilungmarcdacascos4079 Месяц назад
Stop comparing bodybuilders to Yates please! No one can much him
@FrankZen
@FrankZen Месяц назад
I love Dorian but I like Jay the best out of these. I love Phil too but here it's Jay all the way.
@FrankZen
@FrankZen Месяц назад
I take it back Phil #1 Dorian#2 based on the totality of poses.
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 Месяц назад
​@@FrankZen Me too. Jay was big but incomplete, especially in the back.
@Murhamdilah
@Murhamdilah Месяц назад
Jay look flat from the side. Dorian is thick front and side.
@mayorrodgers7446
@mayorrodgers7446 Месяц назад
It’s crazy how subjective this sport is. I have Jay third and every shot. My least favorite of all the Olympians.
@FrankZen
@FrankZen Месяц назад
@@mayorrodgers7446 actually, I retracted my comment after I saw the rest of the shots. #3 if I'm being real. Dorian #2
@user-rc7hz5ks6c
@user-rc7hz5ks6c Месяц назад
To be honest Dorian is not winning even a single shot. Dorian is looking like amature as compare to Jay and Phil. His arms, chest and legs are underdeveloped as compare to Phil and Jay and even back looking in complete if you compare with Phil heath.
@stevenhanna8768
@stevenhanna8768 Месяц назад
He's not winning the front lat spread?
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
Dorian wins EVERY POSE well better arms never helped wheeler levrone dillett etc chest? GFTO Yates chest KILLS heaths. Much wider, much denser, more striations. Phils chest is arguably his least impressive bodypart.Odd shape and too small compared to his arms and delts legs? LOL only in these silly badly scaled different quality comps does Dorian have weak legs Phils RLS is nowhere near Dorians. HIs rear relaxed is Narrow
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb Месяц назад
Jay said in a podcast this version of Yates beats both him and Heath. He is right
@troy8613
@troy8613 11 дней назад
You’re bugging! Dorian has the best structure, best back, calves, waist and the most conditioned. He’d win all back shots, front lat spread and side chest, that’s 4 shots and he’s the best poser, & he may even win the A & T. Dorian, Phil then Jay.
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb 11 дней назад
@@troy8613 yup!!
@heavymetalhero08
@heavymetalhero08 Месяц назад
Phil > Jay > Dorian
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 Месяц назад
Cutler has the same physique as big Ramy! Only with a fancy haircut
@BourbonondaBayou
@BourbonondaBayou Месяц назад
It looks like Yates biceps were not good because all the stimulation went into his forearms.
@angmori172
@angmori172 Месяц назад
Phil truly was gifted, and Yates is the most overrated olympia of all time by FAR
@FrankZen
@FrankZen Месяц назад
Phil looks bunched up to me. Dorians lat spread is impressive to me.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Месяц назад
Phil is narrow. It would really hurt him in a lineup with Jay and Dorian.
@brunodouaud
@brunodouaud Месяц назад
@@paulcox2447 phil stood next to jay for years and he did fine, in fact he should have won 2010 aswell
@robmaddison8645
@robmaddison8645 Месяц назад
Dorian has the width, shape and detail.
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 Месяц назад
I don't understand how Dorian could be considered one of the greatest, let alone the 2nd-greatest. He had a couple of good poses but the rest were very mediocre and had weak parts.
@gustt077
@gustt077 Месяц назад
nostalgia
@verdugo6543
@verdugo6543 Месяц назад
He is one of the master of the mandatory poses
@jaymanalo5875
@jaymanalo5875 Месяц назад
Dorian is the reason why bodybuilders today are mass monsters so he definitely deserves to be one of the greats as he ushered in the era of mass monsters
@sethbagalman3819
@sethbagalman3819 Месяц назад
I believe your opinion is on point; however, I also believe your opinion would change, IF Dorian had HD photo clarity AND a black background. It would truly showcase just how crazy peeled he was.. and muscular in his best shots (Front Lat, Side Triceps, Rear Lat Spread, Rear Double Biceps, and Abdominal & Thigh).
@bjf5027
@bjf5027 Месяц назад
I've been thinking this for years. He wasn't even the biggest in his time.
@johnr6676
@johnr6676 Месяц назад
Other than front lat Phil won by far. Just amazing.
@IvanovEvgeny
@IvanovEvgeny Месяц назад
Почему Дорина всегда берут 93 года? У него на сцене была плохая форма, слишком худой. Нужно Ятса брать 95 года, и 96.
@adatavarez9361
@adatavarez9361 Месяц назад
First
@I_Am_Dread
@I_Am_Dread Месяц назад
One thing I noticed was how shredded Yates was. His look is completely different than then others. They look round but not as thin skinned.
@krokodilvomnil5327
@krokodilvomnil5327 Месяц назад
Yates won with torn triceps and biceps. 3 weeks without Training. Unbelievable. He was still very far ahead of the competition in 97. Never again was there a more dominant Bodybuilder.
@brandonwhite7306
@brandonwhite7306 Месяц назад
3- way lol no Diddy!
@sethbagalman3819
@sethbagalman3819 Месяц назад
If Dorian had superior lighting, today's HD photo clarity AND a black background, then it would've been showcasing just how ridiculously peeled and dry he was. Other than his Quads, he had striations in every upperbody muscle on him. Dorian would win the following: FRONT LAT SPREAD SIDE TRICEPS REAR LAT SPREAD (if he used today's feet placement and bent knees outward) REAR DOUBLE BICEPS (again with feet placement and outer knee bend. & ABDOMINAL & THIGH For the young fans who were born after 1990, Dorian completely set the bench mark for both size and conditioning. He's known as the one who ushered in the MASS MONSTER era, while being sliced to the bone. The ONLY IFBB Pro Bodybuilder who was equally, or more, shredded than Dorian at that time was the late Andreas Můnzer (RIP 🙏🏽🕊) That was it! He should without any debate be 100% considered one of the Best Mr. Olympia Champions (Easy Top 3)
@NicksFitnessYT
@NicksFitnessYT Месяц назад
Remember to wipe your mouth off when you’re done sucking Dorian’s dick
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb Месяц назад
Truth
@danielvieira2411
@danielvieira2411 Месяц назад
the only physique that beats 2011 Phil is prime Coleman
@fbodnariuc
@fbodnariuc Месяц назад
Dude , I agree with you except when it comes to Nick Walker , it's like when it comes to that dude you are loosing your mind
@EuropaWill
@EuropaWill Месяц назад
Phil is in a different league here. He wins. His rear double bi is so much better than Dorian's.
@juangherardi6664
@juangherardi6664 Месяц назад
phil is the 2nd best, but he is closr to ronnie than he is to the 3rd best. and the third best is dorian. i dont know if jay is even 4th
@szveszs
@szveszs Месяц назад
Dorian put those guys on his pocket. Heath it's another guy to be considered but the gut sometimes got too much. I also consider Dorian better than Ronnie, but the best would be that 70s Arnold.
@davidbell4626
@davidbell4626 Месяц назад
All the mr. O...... 1. Phil 2. Ronnie 3. Jay 4. Shaun R. 5. Dexter 6. Big Ramy 7. Lee H. 8. Dorian 9. Brandon C. 10. Hany................ bring it!
@martinrogan6641
@martinrogan6641 Месяц назад
Nah ronnie smokes phil I am sorry
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb Месяц назад
If you are really serious about this....Phil above ronny and Dorian? Not in a million fkn years mate
@davidbell4626
@davidbell4626 Месяц назад
@@Noah-jy8wb mate with all due of respect, if Shaun R. was still alive, he would've won six in a row with ease. Dorian was a good ( not great) bodybuilder, 1997 was a gift for Dorian. 2011 Phil Heath was the greatest bodybuilder ever!
@Noah-jy8wb
@Noah-jy8wb Месяц назад
@@davidbell4626 please tell me your practicing for a comedy show, please!:D
@FrankZen
@FrankZen Месяц назад
I like Dorians front double bi.
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 Месяц назад
Washy abs (not a single visible pack; also the same in the FLS) and weak arms tho.
@user-wh9jl9dq3n
@user-wh9jl9dq3n Месяц назад
Phil💪
@robmaddison8645
@robmaddison8645 Месяц назад
Dorian should win the back lat spread. Not withstanding how amazing his back is overall, even with the grainy photo you can tell that his conditioning in the flesh would be razor sharp and make him stand out. his back detail is incredible.
@gameurai5701
@gameurai5701 Месяц назад
I'd put Jay in a distant 3rd spot here. Even with all these comparisons I never really found enough confidence to put either Phil or Dorian as the nr.2 guy...they would be absolutely trading blows in real life and flip flop between wins and losses depending on the judges taste and mood at the time of the day. Incredibly close between those two.
@mikthe2004
@mikthe2004 Месяц назад
No-one has Phil's round quality muscle, but he's so narrow compared to Jay especially! Phil looks so bad in the standing "relaxed" pose at 0:19, and I even have Jay winning the front double biceps and lat spread against Phi, although Dorian could be beating them both. Dorian in 1993 may be overall the most impressive Mr Olympia ever? His conditioning was insane!
@valerioscharer4676
@valerioscharer4676 Месяц назад
Hard disagree. Yes Phil is narrow but so are his hips. Being wider than someone is a big advantage but if your hips are proportionally wider as well the advantage is gone. It's about proportions. Jay is the widest but has the worst V taper overall for example. Coleman would beat Phil because he has tiny hips and wide shoulders while being more muscular also.
@IVEdge
@IVEdge Месяц назад
Big Ramy before he was Mr. Olympia had one of the most impressive physiques. Other than the king of course.
@mikthe2004
@mikthe2004 Месяц назад
@@valerioscharer4676 0:16 - where is Phil's taper?? He looks like crap next to Jay!! Same in the front double bi and lat spread. 3:25 - where is Phil's taper?? Nobody beats Phil for round quality muscle - except maybe prime William Bonac, but he's even narrower than Phil! I just don't like how Phil looks "relaxed" and I mean truly relaxed!! I prefer the 70's guys like Arnold and Robby.
@NicksFitnessYT
@NicksFitnessYT Месяц назад
Phil dominates. Idk how you think Dorian wins either of the back poses, the side tricep, or even the abs and thigh with such small and washed out quads. The only pose Dorian takes is the front lat, he’s getting bullied in every other pose
@bobajob13
@bobajob13 Месяц назад
In the BDB he’s just as detailed as Phil, but has much bigger traps, better lat insertions and completely bodies him in the lower back, the delts from the rear are comparable and Phil is only really winning in the arms.
@awaxdem2013
@awaxdem2013 Месяц назад
If I had professional judgment I don't believe Dorian would win in any pose, Phil is completely complete, unlike Dorian who has several weaknesses. Thinking that Dorian is better at side triceps is completely nostalgic, Phil has the best side triceps of all time.
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
@@awaxdem2013 phils side triceps is so overrated its not even funny eve rhoden beat him ien it dorian would annihilate him phil can be complete all he wants, he is giving up 20 lb of muscle to dorian and is nowhere near as dense or as dry open is all about size and condition and yates is ahead of heath on both and dorian has better quarter turns, so he is more symmetrical also phils front relaxed sucks, his rear relaxes isnt even in the same league as dorians side relaxed?yates way thicker and harder
@awaxdem2013
@awaxdem2013 Месяц назад
@@TheLusianPopa Yes, and the earth is flat.
@TheLusianPopa
@TheLusianPopa Месяц назад
@@awaxdem2013 thanks for conceeding defeat. Phil beats dorian only on ur wetdreams...way smaller way softer=death sentence in mens open
@billgoldberg9347
@billgoldberg9347 Месяц назад
Phil in relaxed poses is dwarfed against this two behemots
@PabLo9992
@PabLo9992 Месяц назад
Dorian is the Goat
@apollsa1
@apollsa1 Месяц назад
hahahahahaha
@dave-oz1ni
@dave-oz1ni Месяц назад
Jay > all. Phil is just too short and too narrow genetically. Dorian is dorian but doesnt have the natural lines, proportions to be aesthetic enough
@dave-oz1ni
@dave-oz1ni Месяц назад
Jay monsters over phil.
@atila13561977
@atila13561977 Месяц назад
Dorian hands down. You cannot judge by these photos from 1993! The resolution of cameras and videos from 1990s were no where near the image resolution today. That's why all of those who competed with Dorian on stage or saw him live know that his conditioning and mass quality was out of this world for the time! Also we need to consider nutrition, suplements and drugs used in the 1990s were so minimal compared to today's bodybuilders (which makes them look fluffy)!
@WilliamLagakos
@WilliamLagakos Месяц назад
Jay Cutler doing Phil Heath dirty like that in almost every pose. That was weird. I'm Gen X and Phil Heath was my favorite. Now I'm confused.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Месяц назад
Whoever looks best is whoever is closer to the camera when the pics were taken. Go look at each one, you'll notice it once you look for it. Standing side by side Dorian is bigger than both, with the thin skin of Phil. He loses the back double to Phil in real life, but the front lat spread more than makes up for it, and keep in mind Phil is again closest to camera with Dorian being further there. Go look how big Dorian looks in the side tricep because he is the closest by just a little bit! Jay exposed Phil for his frame and it was Phil's detail and roundness that made up the edge. Dorian has the best balance of overall traits here. Biggest frame, detail and thin skin of Phil. All Phil has is arms and back over Dorian. Legs are actually close looking at the pics.. In real life it would be Dorian vs Phil and it could go either way. I think Dorian's frame and thin skin and conditioning is too strong of a combo though side by side.
@teenoi8913
@teenoi8913 Месяц назад
Jay should be 1999
@aerospace6631
@aerospace6631 Месяц назад
You have gorgotten that Dorian was eight years beating Ronnie Coleman.Fron 1992 to 1997,when Dorian retires.People usually forget that.
@masteryoda5503
@masteryoda5503 Месяц назад
You put Phil over Dorian on the back poses. Nonsense!
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