DP/30: Blackfish, documentarian Gabriela Cowperthwaite, subject John Hargrove 

Actually we didn't outlaw it, it's just that public opinion here changed. But obviously legislation will be required in the US. India recently granted cetaceans nonhuman personhood rights. What the US needs is a high profile politician with the courage to lead the debate. It was afterall a single politician that led the campaign to ban the capture of orcas in US waters. First captive breeding needs to be banned. But there also needs to be a ban on the import & export of orcas. Otherwise SeaWorld & others will just transport sperm abroad & import calves back into the US.

MushuK mmmone

PETITION i will sign!

we certainly did .. ..

I went once in the '80s, and I hated it. Doesn't appear it ever really changed since the 80s.

It was wrong, back then too. An ocean in Canada is not a pool in Florida or Texas.

​@Crista Ferrari-Girault Corect this youvunt.

Why are you just making up numbers for the roller coasters lol you just sound like you don't want to learn anything about something you may disagree with.

@Crista Ferrari-Girault Seriously??? Really??? That's your comment??? Why are you here? People here can see the lunacy of SEAWORLD. What a joke. The fact that its still open is indeed unbelievable. People are stupid and brainwashed. You must one too. Go the watch the Simpsons troll for seaworld/NOT. It's not a seaworld. It's a dog and pony show and Rachel made some very good points about this crooked, exploitive, murderous place, that you are obviously TOO stupid to understand. MOVE ALONG! TROLL.

That's not why they're bent. 😂😂😂

WorldOfExcitementE yes it is

keva kinsler Dont forget how many animals they safe and release and how much work zoos do for endangered animals with breeding programs like mentalfloss.com/article/27867/4-animals-you-can-only-find-zoos - its better to visit zoos and sea world and teach the kids the good and the bad things when humans meets animals.

Bechtified do they deserve to be there?...will you let your child ever just for someone else's entertainment...they too have feelings...they have been tortured to death..Wow I don't understand how people still say they want to go to seaworld.. Seeing the orcas.. They belong to the ocean its their world its their right...the chlorine water causes them diseases.. They swim 100 miles a day...can you stay in a place for years... A fucking no..stop saying that they helped the orcas they did not...

Well said.

You call that a documentary? 😂😂😂

You would have enjoyed it.

NEVER Have NEVER Will! POOR Animals! 🥺💔💔💔

Yes I saw Lolita at MIami Seaquarium when I was only 5 (same year I saw the movie Free Willy) and KNEW having that giant whale in a tiny tank was completely wrong and I can't believe she's been in the tiniest tank in the entire world for 47 YEARS! kidnapped from her family in Washington (her mother is still alive in the wild and both whales recognized the calls from each other played on a recording). Her tank is so small her tail touches the bottom when she is vertical for tricks. (another whale captured from her same family named Hugo also used to live in that bathtub until he freaked out and killed himself in the 1980s

She passed away. It's time for corky to be released to a sanctuary

EXACTLY 💯 ❤ We all Owe them a BIG THANK YOU! FOR Being Brave and Speaking out about the Animal Cruelty! SAVE THE ANIMALS ❤

You got sold a lie by this movie. They used misinformation

@@donaldmorrison3857 you only need intelligence and common sense to see that there’s a LOT wrong with SeaWorld, regardless of any movie. Have you ever been to a zoo? Ever kept fish? Recreating a natural habitat for each individual wild animal in captivity is the very first welfare consideration, for people who HAVE consideration. I don’t know about you but as far as I’m concerned, not even providing that for the orcas is beyond bonkers, arrogant, immoral and unacceptable.

@@donaldmorrison3857 you’re a tard. Putting anything or anyone in isolation for 2/3rds of their lives will make them insane. Those whales have brains six times as big as humans are have intelligence people(especially idiots like yourself) will never understand.

@@donaldmorrison3857no we didn’t. Blackfish was the truth.

Totally agree!

Do you have a dog or cat in captivity???

Quincy A Sorry Quincy A, your knee jerk reaction of "Why do humans have such a desire to see animals up close? And then act like its soo good for kids to see animals up close. Ok, go see them in the wild if its that important to your kid! Youll get a way better understanding of that animal" dosnt help the cause much. I am in complete agreement that its a dead loser of an idea to keep an animal like a killer whale in a large swimming pool. The reason is certainly not because "theres no good reason for humans to have such a desire to see animals up close? And then act like its soo good for kids to see animals up close". The reason is simple. For an animal with the kind of intelligence a killer whale possesses, putting them in such a closed environment inherently is going to result in something akin to mental torture. Modern zoo's provide for more room to roam for much smaller animals with less intelligence than a killer whale. The confines a killer whale in captivity is kept in is bound to be hard on their mental state, very hard on many of them Im sure and practically fatal to the mind of a whale with less capacity to live with such a situation, as Im sure isn't rare. But humans and their children seeing animals, and animals up close is important. Sure, its great if you can see them in the wild. Problem is, the vast majority of "humans" cant afford a trip to Africa or South America, or any such place. And then, even if everyone could afford such a thing, we would only be invading their environments where they actually should be living in the wild in a fairly human free existence. Do not downplay the critical importance zoos and other such facilities have in the education and understanding that society in the modern world can learn from and appreciate about the animal kingdom, a kingdom which we actually hold the oddest and most unusual positions in. If you think that without zoos and such humans would, in the larger more general big picture around the world start treating animals better, your wickedly mistaken. But there has to be lines we do not cross, particularly when common sense dictates different. And we need to continue to pursue more human and reasonable ways to show as many people on earth the wildlife that does exist, that it is real, it is life, and we need to protect it from us.

Quincy A exactly! how can you learn about an animal outside its natural habitat? theres nothing natural about their behavior in captivity. Im not sure why some ppl rather eat up so much crap!

***** thanks for that reply!

Dilmeran Akgoze dunham Bingo. That's the fact. I have no doubt that bringing in an already well experienced and educated person on marine biology and aquatic mammals to become a trainer would inevitably result in a trainer who would quickly see the folly of Sea Worlds actions, and they wouldn't be as susceptible to the progressive brainwashing that inevitably comes from working at a place like Sea World.

+David Burke except all the trainers have to have at the least a bachelor's in marine biology and more than five years experience. so.....

+Steven Harman where are you getting any of your information from? I have been reading all of your comments and I must say your purpose or point is unclear. If you feel the opposite of what this video and Blackfish promotes, than just say so. Everyone is entitled to feel what they want. You don't have use made up information of what you have found to be accurate to prove yourself more educated than others. This is a fact, you are not John Hargrove and I'll bet you don't know him personally. I'll even bet you have never applied to be a trainer at SeaWorld so you wouldn't know what the requirements are. I'm probably going to take Kelly's (a trainer interviewed in Blackfish) word when she said you don't need a bachelors degree in marine biology you just need to swim well and be energetic... Over your word. No one is buying your shit dude. If you want to start a comment rally on how awesome SeaWorld is for having orcas in captivity then be my guest. Just stop with the bullshit facts thanks

Yes but the naive trainer have the choice! they could get information and go deeplier in the topic. The Animals have no choice! I am sorry M. Marquez but I agree with M. Burke on various points: 1) At bachelor level, you must be able to question yourself on the environment you are working with.. You are smart enough to get information not only on the proximity conditions but also on the kind of Organization it is, where and how they bought the Animals. 2)Much respect for M. Hargrove and Ms Coperthwaite as they now defend the defenseless and voiceless. But honestly something strikes me on the way they changed their mind just after the death of one of their workmate and how reacted SeaWorld.. So , if there was not Human death, they would have never realized before that those place such SeaWorld were Evil for Animals?

@@mmarquez1100 what yout saying about steve harmann facts is exactly the whole movie blackfish. a bunch of misread and misunderstood information promoted in an emotional and not scientific way. even the facts in the movie are untrue there just statements. sad activists have to lie to swing public opinion in there favor

Movie was 85% lies

@@donaldmorrison3857 how? Ive been watching so many videos about SeaWorld and how they treat the animals and I've done A LOT of research and there are SO MANY attacks from just the orcas to trainers and staff. I'm honestly interested to hear your thoughts and opinions. Like I said I'm now just learning more in depths about all of these things.

@@jenniferrussell627 it's what's happens when dealing with a wild animals. Tigers loins an many others have attacks have happened. So it's not just at seaworld this happened.

@@donaldmorrison3857 Lies? Your statements don't give anything enlightening to hear something so casual as "It's what happens when dealing with wild animals." You need to realize the animals do not belong in captivity period. This is unnatural and does drive the animals into depression and anger. Thus, why these things happen. Point proven. Do your research on orcas before saying Blackfish is lies because...it's NOT.

@@irinaivanovic9792yes, if Blackfish lied, SW would have sued for defamation. Blackfish is an outstanding documentary. I also recommend reading Beneath the Surface by John Hargrove. Orcas are magnificent creatures who don't belong in captivity.

RIP Tilly and Dawn. Whales belong in the ocean.

He trolled those trainers emotions

The same things and WORSE happens in the billions to farm animals EVERY DAY! watch earthlings and dominion

What?

Her family still supports it??😳

Woww😢 SeaWorld probably paid the family some hush money

I hope you're not a pet owner???

@@timnorris6287 are you trying to compare a pet dog to a wild orca? 😂

thanks sheila---i dont get it either--pro beause seaworld told them they dsue them if they raised a stink

and taking that ten million dollars from cnn.

@@stevenharman4214 😮

Because people are stupid!! They want to be entertained and do not give a sh about the animals. Go to SW and ask the visitor's what kind of animals these are!! I bet most of them have no idea that there are different species of orca's!! Einstein said:" 2 things are endless, the stupidity of the human race and the universe and with the universe, I am not so sure". SW is just full of narrow minded liar's!!!

This is just an interview, go and watch Blackfish it is very interesting and sad, these poor Orcas should be in the The Ocean.

Yes! Watching the films Blackfish and Earthlings is so eye-opening. Changed my life.

Agree! Blackfish, Earthlings & Dominion will have you go vegan overnight! 💚 only regret is not watching them sooner!!

No, he’s just paying attention to what she’s saying. He’s actually gay. And how do I know this? He mentions it in his book “Beneath the Surface”

I would be happy to do a documentary about Sea World but I'm sure it would turn to the dumbass Sea World haters who have cats themselves in tiny apartments.

beallendall08 your comments are very interesting I don't believe that you understand the difference between a domesticated animal and a wild animal taken from its natural habitat to live in captivity.

Gordon Howe I'm working on a video now as a rebuttal to Blackfish and all of your too emotional, inconsistent, incredibly ignorant, and EXTREMELY HYPOCRITICAL opinion.

***** It's annoying because you can't debate me.

beallendall08 You think you can debate the difference between right and wrong? That's not annoying--it's ridiculous. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Don't even think of being in the same room with me. You don't rate it.

But that means nothing, the film clip exactly matched what the woman was describing. Another ex trainer said she was misled as to what form the movie would take, & maybe she was, but that does not discredit the facts that the movie did present. Another ex trainer challenges certain testimonies by contributors to the film, so we should question them, but that does not discredit the film as a whole. Testimony is often the weakest form of evidence. People should always fact check what people say, & also weigh how important to a case that testimony is. Blackfish is not a perfect movie, but it raises important questions. 1 - Are the conditions that SW keep their orcas in acceptable? Remember SW's are probably the best in the world. But they are still woefully inadequate & hark back to the days when zoos kept animals in totally unsuitable conditions. 2 - Do SW practices endanger the health & lives of their employees? Well if you look at the list of captive orca attacks on people, obviously they did, & they're seeking to do so again. 3 - Does SW strive to mislead the public solely for profit? Well yes, both in what they tell the public & what they don't. They blatantly lie about lifespans & dorsal fin collapse, & they don't tell people about the terrible dental problems some of their orcas suffer, or that they have to fed antibiotics to try & keep them healthy. Or that they breed hybrids, or that they inbreed. Two things that never happen naturally. 4 - Is what SW does regarding orcas educating the public? No, in fact it's the reverse. SW present the illusion that their orcas are happy & healthy in captivity, but all cetacean biologists say that orcas are totally unsuitable to be kept in captivity. 5 - Is it ethical in the second decade of the 21st century to train animals to perform for our entertainment? If you say no, then there's no way you can condone the shows SW put on. 6 - Should orcas be bred in captivity? Many captive breeding programmes are justified. Species have been rescued from the brink of extinction by such programmes. But orcas are not at that stage yet, & every orca bred in captivity would be useless if they were. So why breed them? It's simply to keep their parks stocked with circus performers. 7 - Has SW engaged in unscrupulous practices? Absolutely. The holding facilities they maintained in Iceland just being one example. I'm happy to see Blackfish criticised, if at the same time people can adequately answer the questions it raises, a few of which I have listed above.

Ok honestly such a silly thing to say lol It is like saying oh ppl watching are so dumb they couldnt tell the clip was showing an example. We can clearly tell its not Sam!

David Keenan , THANK YOU.

What does this have to do with anything?

David Keenan In answer to some of your points 1... I think it's great they are planning bigger pools 2... Yes I guess it is dangerous, but then again, many jobs are dangerous. 3... I think it's unfair to say they are misleading the public for profit, they do LOTS of work regarding wild animals, rehabilitating injured animals etc... regardless of your thoughts surrounding dolphins/orcas in captivity, they do lots of other work. 4... I think any interaction a person has with an animal is educational, it may just be understanding the size/power etc, but it is still educational. How many marine biologists, vets etc went to seaworld/zoo/circus etc and fell in love with animals because of it! 5... I don't see a problem in the 21st century training an animal for public performance. So long as they are well taken care of. 6... Maybe, maybe not... but I'd rather they were captive bred than wild caught... everyone is against animals being taken from the wild (which used to be common practice) but these days, SeaWorld is running a captive breeding program... I would have thought that was more positive than taking from the wild? 7... Quite possibly, I wouldn't know all of their practices, nor would I pretend to know... but the same could be said for this snuff piece you refer to as a documentary... is it 100% fact, is their any misleading information or half truths, I'm sure there is.

No, he was a problem over and over. It was all swept under the rug. The only mistake the “ trainer” made was taking a job at SeaWorld without proper training.

Smileypants Cuppycake He is gorgeous!! ❤️❤️❤️

marishana meyer I don't think a bullet would touch a whale.👌

A tranquilliser bullet very well would have stopped him in his tracks. Also never heard of a harpoon?

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betinha velloso til who comes ?

Sorry typo

Umm, no dear he's gay