DPS Showdown! C0 Cyno vs Xiao vs Keqing vs Razor! Who's the STRONGEST?! 

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The fact Keqing can now do good enough to be placed in a good showdown just showed how dendro has niced her.

Can we get some Masanori appreciation here? The man doesn't even have a vision. He's just a mind-blowingly powerful 3-Star NPC.

Thank you for making this dps showdown, I thought it was gonna be just a razor v Cyno, since thats the way your poll went, so this is a pleasant surprise

Feels so much better to see some "c0" showcases, as it's much closer to what most players experience

I personally wanted to see a physical razor build, partly because i am a die hard razor main, and partly because i wanted to see how physical damage was holding up under the deluge of elemental characters

razor is extra fun if you've got dendro and cryo in the party, since you can get superconduct and aggravate going to really amp up his damage

i do think that keqing could have performed better if you had capitalized on the key difference between cyno and keqing, being the fact that keqing is not selfish like cyno. You are fully able to leave her stilleto on the group and just swap out and swap back in for the infusion. Traveler could've run sapwood blade and due to the quickswap-y nature of keqing's playstyle, you swap in and out of your different characters.. just a thought. would've been cool if the overworld tests also included this.

I woud like to take this time to appreciate IWTL's editing team and his work here. This video definitely needed a lot more effort, *Math* and skilled gameplay to pull off. Awesome work lads and hoping to also see C6 Cyno vs C6 Xiao sometime down the road

Xiao slaying all the challenges as he shouls

The fact that the Keqing team didn't even use Kazuha instead of Zhongli and still go 2nd place is such a good look for her. Why Keqing looks to be better than Cyno is not because of her personal damage, but because of her quick swap ability that can allow the team to use Kazuha or C6 Sucrose, maintain the VV shred and dmg bonus (and/or EM share) 100% of the time and proc more of Fischl's A4 passive. This Keqing team can go without a healer because of the quickswap and s. I'm just really happy how Dendro turned out for Keqing. I C6-ed my Bennett months ago with hope that Dendro will save Keqing. And it did. And it saved Razor too. When C6 Bennett screwed Razor's phys damage, it gave him the Thundering Furry build so I ended up getting the best from C6 Bennett.

Not gonna lie. For an off-set Razor build. He did a lot better than what I thought he would do.

I appreciate this round feeling more down to Earth and feels like we get an idea of each characters strengths and weaknesses. I think its a little unfortunate Cyno has some issues but Im glad hes still in line as a fun character.

Whereas i would say you pretty much need Zhongli with Xiao and Cyno because of their long burst durations and knockback you can comfortably swap in either Sucrose or Kazuha with VV onto Keqing's team which makes her the best out of these 4 in my opinion.

tbh unlike Cyno I feel like Keqing can bring kazuha instead of Zhongli, or prototype sucrose(or nahida when she comes out), since she has a low cd for her 40 energy burst, and she can be switched off the field more often, she can have more i-frames to dodge attacks

i gotta say... probably the best comparison video you've done. the abyss 12 showcase was significantly better than previous videos where it would be all over the place with unrealistic teams, or characters simply not used (diluc), and keeping each other near damage potentials and letting each character shine in what they're good at really diversifies the comparison

Can’t wait for them to add a dendro infusion character to combine with razor

I really like that four screens abyss showdown. Yes, it's a bit crowded, but you can pick one or two to look at and at the same time you get the general idea of who finishes first. And also I'm very glad to see affordable teams with focus on the showcased characters. Very cool!

Great showdown as always and all but man, that song during the abyss 4-way showcase was dope as all hell!

Really appreciate the showcase and hardwork went into this. Keep it up man!

Finally my most awaited showdown. Thanks for doing this

My love of meta will never exceed my love of xiao, but still proud of my boi for doing so well here . ~ a f2p currently saving to c6 xiao, however long it takes

Poor Cyno can't beat Xiao at SINGLE TARGET WITH SUPPORT

Thank you for making these DPS showdowns. They're both entertaining and informative. Getting values and doing the research takes alot of effort thank you for the stellar work 🙏

I’m just surprised by how viable an aggravate Razor is compared to Cyno who is supposed to be built specifically for aggravate while Razor is a physical dps. I would love to see how physical Razor stack up to this and if a C6 Cyno even compares to C6 Xiao apparently but overall I very much enjoyed this video even if the format was busier than normal.

Youve outdone yourself on this one buddy, great content! The Akasha approves!

I love the comparison format, also the background music

Hey man I know not many appreciated this but, I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME this level of detail thanks. You did an EXCELLENT job! I appreciate you.

my respect for Xiao after this video 📈📈 I always thought he was mid, and he undoubtedly has downsides as well, but he crushed this even at somewhat c0 performance, nice video

An amazing buff to Razor and Cyno would be if they can be swapped out to supports and then back while still maintaining burst effects like Diluc can

Your DPS Showndowns are awsome! For me, your videos are one of the best way of deciding rather to pull or not for a weapon or chacacter! And I really liked this new format of 4 DPS Showndowns!

Cyno needs a Long-lasting Buff, so his burst gives its full potential just like Xiao unlike other main DPS who easily quick swap to re-apply the support buff they will be op when Mihoyo start making a character with a real off-field Dps/support like in Honkai (example is Haxxor Bunny and SA)

This is probably the only RU-vid channel where I actually like to watch the sponsor commercial (Nobody would like to have their stuff uploaded to the Akasha network)

I think hyperbloom on gilded might be the better team for Cyno. From my experience if you run Xingqiu and Beidou with him you almost completely resolve his survivability while doing much more damage through Xingqiu and Beidou. Pair that with the fact that there is no icd on the cores and you'll have (in my personal testing) a team that does more damage than aggravate, and is also more comfortable to play.

Good stuff IWTL, keep it up! Didn't mind the 4 screens 1 bit.

I really appreciate that you included the others

🌸😹It would be a showdown betwixt two who walked the path of edge and beyond!😹🌸

I think cyno does so, SO WELL with Beidou AND Xingqiu. Because it all stays on him for the entire burst duration

Wow great ! Thank You for this comparison. 👍

Love that you put the Signora fight OST into the abyss 12 run, that was epic!

Top notch content as always. I think it’s really important to acknowledge that the top half of current abyss 12 definitely favours Xiao’s AoE damage, and Xiao might not perform as well comparatively on the bottom half. Really appreciate the effort that went into this!

I just want to point out that I keep seeing people use Fischl with Cyno in multi target scenarios and that’s the main reason why she is not a the BIS electro support for him. It’s actually Beidou. She takes care of any AOE dmg Cyno misses. Cyno is literally Beidou’s best driver undoubtedly because they generate energy and drive each other quite smoothly. think to use Fischl who provides nothing to Cyno but single target aggravates is not optimal. She’s better off with Keqing. I think the idea that Fischl is his best meta electro support at the moment needs to be challenged because Beidou exist and is getting slept on. I also had a dream ;) that Nahida marks enemies in a big AOE, so her and Beidou doing dmg to multiple targets bouncing off each other seems to me like a pretty broken combo.

Appreciated your efforts into making this.

Love this vid! 4 split screen does take a bit of getting used to cuz i was also trying to look into the damage numbers but overall great video!!

You should tried the new razor comp with 6c benny and aggrivate.. looks promising snd fun

Cyno is a hyperbloom dps that takes advantage of aggravate, not just a aggravate dps

Lmao he put up a poll on who to do but ended up doing all of them. Respect 🫡

thanks for the video. the 4 abyss lay out is great btw.

I've been waiting for this DPS showdown KING IWTL!

I feel like cyno would be stronger than the others on the second half, due to the single boss fights.

So happy to see Keqing shine. Playing her w 4TF Aggravate comp feels very satisfying, and pushes an insane amount of DMG in a short span of time, (E cast > Q > E slash > 1CA > E cast > slash is the rotation that works for me when aggravate works.) It helps that I slapped Mistsplitter on my C3 keqing haha

thanks for the effort.. i like the video format very much

gotta appreciate the hardwork you put on these videos

I would like to see you try Razor's Abyss 12 run with Fischl replaced with a cryo character so Razor can proc superconducts. That might be more valuable for him than an electro battery.

Great video as always. The one thing I'd say is that cyno is more geared for bossing, so the second half of the the spiral abyss might have been more indicative of his potential.

I like how the Akasha Network Thing U Used it was creative 👍

Great video dude

I was waiting for this! Cyno's main drawback right now (imo) is that he outlasts most supports, so rotations can get a bit messy. I hope you'll come back to this in 6 months/a year to compare them again (in particular Cyno vs Xiao). Are you going to do a C6 comparison too? I'd love to see it since I am planning to C6 both Xiao and Cyno eventually. Great video as always :)

Cyno and keqing's teams are really improveable - keqing can make a better use of quick swap supports ex: any vv shredder, kazuha, a dendro resonance activator or a hydro character for additional damage from hyperbloom and electro charge - while in cyno's case, a zhongli isn't as necessary as you certified him to be, in fact a vv anemo support would've made things just as good and even better, considering that cyno's attacks do knock and interrupt enemies and that's good enough with some occasional I-frames. - the way the robots in 12-2 was grouped is pretty terrible,as someone who've finished the abyss twice with cyno being up and down, c0 the runs could've got improved so much ex: the north corner behind their spawn, they get so close hence easier treatment to them, and cyno can immobilize them casually in his normal burst rotation. - Fischl isn't the best option, beidou would've did much better in a AoE situation , an hydro character in his team is optimal to activate dendro traveler's AoE so it can be much more beneficial compared to a single target slow dendro application - in fact one of the things that helped keqing with that the attacks of the vishap triggered the hydro version of the dmc's burst, that makes the aoe and the dendro application much better - for cyno, in AoE situations 4pc TF is more optimal, due to the skill being the biggest source of AoE damage. - hyperbloom cyno can perform much better against single target and should've been optimized in the OW bosses comparison . if you are trying to reach to the maximum potential of the "F2P-ish" version of a character alot of things could've got improved. Regardless, i think this just needs sometime to go, imo this just a really early showcase, with a lack of support and lack of understanding or "getting used to" cyno.

Best vids yet, I enjoy your choice of music this time, less meme-ing and more serious is nice sometimes.

Thanks for the information love ur vids as always

Really goes to show how Keqing, despite having lower raw damage, benefits a lot from having more flexible team compositions (you can even swap out Zhongli for Kazuha for her team without worrying as much about being interrupted) and rotations (Fischl has no down time, and anemo supports would have no down time if they were used)

In my opinion cyno strongest team is not aggravate. He is the best in exploding the dendro cores with electro because of his elemental mastery He would be doing electro charged, aggravate and hyperbloom at the same time

Love the video! I figured you’d probably be making a Cyno featured dps showdown at some point. Decided to finally subscribe to the account lol. If you’re gonna do a C5 Cyno showdown, I would love to see how he fairs against Raiden Shogun. They’re both electro characters that work pretty well as carries, and their bursts are also similar in that they put them in an altered state for a time. I’m pretty sure I know who’d come out on top, but I am curious if there’s any situation in which Cyno would be noticeably better than Raiden Shogun.

Thanks for your dedication to these videos and Genshin content,

The glow up Keqing has had is insane, love to see it

This was so good! I would love to see an itto vs cyno pleaseee

great video, its always nice to see how dendro improve keqing performance, btw 4 characters at the same time looks like a lot info to gather, you did a great job thank you

yay been looking forward to this one!

Would love to see a Cyno vs Itto vs Xiao vs Noelle DPS showcase 😃💯😁

The 4 way showcase looks great.

Great showdown! Love it that all of these characters were used

now it would be fantastic to see an electro support/sub-dps showdown for aggravate/spread comps featuring fischl vs lisa vs yae

seems like the keqing vs cyno mindset is the same as the ayato vs childe. while cyno does more personal damage, he is quite selfish and doesnt do much to enable his teamates compared to keqing's smoother rotations allowing her to enable fischl really well. in the same vein, ayato usually does more personal damage than childe but childe's kit is better suited to enable xiangling vapes

Hey iwintolose nice video, but I have a question, it can be a new video idea too.You seem to have a lot of food buffs so can you tell how do you farm your food buffs please, I also like to farm food buffs so it can massively help me

Hi iwtl. I do really love ur vids, thx for all your hard work. Could you please make a dps showdown with Ayaka, Raiden and Yelan? Maybe with Hutao too? It would be amazing.

This showdown was much better than the previous one, thank you for incorporating the feedbacks in your video.

I really appreciate this showcase, thank you! It was mentioned here and worth highlighting that Cyno suffers from limited aggravate team comps since he needs a shield and battery. As we get more Dendro characters (all eyes are on Nahida) there's hope that Cyno will improve with time, as is the trend for new characters these days. I'm only playing him for fun factor at the moment and expect it will take quite some time for him to surpass some of the more cracked electro units. This was useful information; I feel like I can pace myself for farming and leveling him. I'm curious to see how much of a difference weapons and artifacts make on him though.

I really enjoy this kind of DPS showdown and how IWTL explains things in superb detail. BTW i love to see C6 Cyno vs C6 Tighnari ❤

For the 4 panel layout, I can't really focus on all the characters at the same time, but it's still good enough to keep. Also a HUGE fan of yours!

As a Kequig main I feel proud

It is also worth noting that Keqing (yes I'm biased) can be put in a quick swap team with Sucrose rather than Zhongli. With lots of available s, that team can utilize Sucrose's em sharing, elemental dmg bonus, and vv shred easily. That can yield higher dmg than Zhongli at the expense of safety. I've personally tried it (ran Sucrose with Prototyoe Amber just in case) and the result was satisfying!

I would love to see a part two of these specifics DPS characters with their best teams and best builds, it would be interesting to see an actual Xiao team with Xianyun, or a Cyno's team with Furina, etc.

Thx very much for this clip!!! I'm searching for an answer for the comparison between C0 Cyno VS C1 KeQing(which I have her now)....now that i got my answer to stay wiv my Keqing as Electro main DPS (although I managed to get the scarlet sands polearm when tried to pull for elegy of the wind) Another question, other than Cyno, who is suitable to use the Scarlet Sands polearm? Xiang Ling only?

Liked the video. I'm not surprised xiao pulled ahead though I'm surprised Keqing came out second. My only main complaints are that you didn't use beidou who has some and a longer field time along with tf to reset cyno's e cooldowns, and didn't use burgeon razor(thundering furry)

aggravate DPSes are basically how much can u proc fischl A4, which is why keqing is usually ahead i do notice that xiao has his undisputed best set but cyno's could be questioned

19:04 Love how it's 'Cyno vs Razor' competing to see who is the slowest.

Thanks this is helpful, again. Unlike those channels just either be hyper or complain every now and then, you always provide actual value for players.

Leave it up to hoyoverse to release a new limited 5 star that barely out damage a standard 5 star character released 2 years prior. Keep in mind that cyno’s kit was made with aggravate in consideration, whilst keqing’s wasn’t.

one thing i would like to mention is that cyno's team is barely finished as of now. nahida coming in 3.2 is going to be a big buff for cyno. also, his 5 star weapon powercreeps all other 4 stars on cyno by quite a bit. sure, xiao is also using the same weapon but the difference in death match and pjws(xiao's BIS) is almost negligible at r5. and the lack of a grouper on cyno's team was also a massive disadvantage.

would a comparison of hyper bloom for the electro characters be better than xiao? (specifically single target) also thundering fury cyno is better than gladiators

Thank you!

Raw scaling is important, supports help bring the scaling out, i cant wait for Xiao to get a dedicated support he would compete with the best, great video as always.

This was one of the most interesting showdowns you've done but the abyss should have been on the second half because it favors quicken and you can use anything for first half. Most people would use their quicken team on the second half, not the first.

I think it would have made more sense to use razor in a physical damage team but still very interesting and fun! keep making more of this kind of videos!

the 2x2 aka all four at the same time layout is good. Since you will kinda play them 1 by 1 when you explains anyway, this is a very good format to see them side by side comparison on any pair we wish. So yea, I like it

I’m really curious, how do you calculate a characters potential?

My unfortunate C3 Keqing has finally seen the light of day in Sumeru. Hoping for Nahida to brighten her even more :)

Hey IWinToLose, after using both Jade Spear and Scarlet Sands on Cyno, would you say it is worth it to roll for the Scarlet Sands or can/should I stick to Jade Spear since I have it already?

14:40 there was just something inherently satisfying with Zhongli shielding right on the beat. I'm not sure if that was unintentional or if you edited that to perfection lol