Dr. Stephen Phinney on Problem Solving a Ketogenic Diet (Part 3) 

Me too allan

@@fluffgirl1000 if people want to have a healthy gut, they need have 30 different kind of vegetables and seeds per week. This is really hard for ketoer. Fasting is a better solution.

@@TraderSamsara that is completely unproven. The current state of gut biome research is poor with weak correlative data, not causative.

@@cassieoz1702 why do u say this? There are a lot of papers on this topic.

@@TraderSamsara Seeds are for birds.

Meg Cook need that book! Sounds good.

white people don't season their food smh

@@silverspoon2690 don't be so stupid. And racist .

I have chronic diseases like pkd. I am on ketogenic diet low carbs. I stopted total salt. My question is should I 8ntaje salt if yes, then how much quantity I should intake salt. Or I never intake salt thanks

Dr. Phinney warns against fasting for over 24 hours, but he's ok with time-restricted eating where you're fasting for a shorter period of time. Here's a piece he wrote on it: blog.virtahealth.com/science-of-intermittent-fasting/

@@VirtaHealth that article is such nonsense. Losing a pound per day of lesn muscle tissue fasting? Ya right. Doesn't even make sense.

@@beau5296 ketogenic therapy is good for ppls those fall in chronic diseases. If any body is healthy then no need follow any therapy diet

@@adeelmehmood7439 if you want to become unhealthy eat grains and sugar daily. That is why people need therapeutic diets.

@@beau5296 I don't know about the article but I just spent 3 weeks in the forest meditating, eating once or twice a day. I had reduced my intake of food and lost 7 to 8 pounds over that period. I noticed that I had lost some muscles tissues although I was taking whey protein and 150+ natto for the first 11 days and cheese; that is a fact. I'm presently working on getting some lean muscles tissues back. At 73 and almost 8 years of keto, loosing strength is not an option for me.

Yea it causes authrophy which is great but when you lift weights you can feel the lack of energy in the weight room and also the flat muscles due to lack of carbs

I agree with you, Son of Liberty. Our body physiology is smart - it isn't going to eat your muscle, it's going to eat your fat. Ketosis is the state of eating stored fats.

Son of Liberty why would you want to lose muscle mass?

my understanding was that he was referring to prolonged fasting? I do 18/6 daily, isnt prolonged 24 hours or more?

I see you all have two advanced degrees and 50 years experience. You guys are stupid.

@@gilshelley9183 the doctors who say keto is bad also have a ton of experience. People can be wrong

He said safflower oil.

Yep you are right. Dont eat the hydrogenated oils. Eat saturated fat instead, butter, coconut oil, ghee, etc

See 6:45. canola oil

Anita T check out Dave Feldman on RU-vid regarding high ldl on a ketogenic diet

Also look up mental decline with statin use

You can try to educate your GP. Or fire him/her and get a new one.

Thank you for your support Rooben!

So glad you found them helpful!

Yes, counterfeiting olive oil is reportedly a new profit-generating activity for the Mafia. Apparently it is less risky and more profitable than selling illegal drugs. In addition to diluting or substituting cheap seed oils ('vegetable') for olive oil, which IS illegal but hardly every prosecuted, chemicals are often added to disguise the fact - and some of those chemicals are highly toxic. They don't care. Olive oil from Australia, the USA and a few other places is likely to be the real thing. (Sadly, many California olive groves were converted to housing developments.) Phinney tested the olive oil from Sam's Club and it was the real thing, but I would still wonder about each new batch.

Australian olive oil is indeed top-notch (we have the climate and the soils to grow world-class olive oil, and wine; and we're big exporters of both). But there is a way to tell at a glance if you live elsewhere ~ good olive-oil should look like olive-oil! It should have a _decidedly_ olive-green tinge; and if it doesn't it's either very second-rate, cheap oil (from second or third pressings), or more likely, it's not olive oil at all. Apologies to Dr Phinney but that oil he held up did not look like olive-oil to me; and if it really was, I'd be wondering what the helll they did to it! Being Australian I am spoilt when it comes to many foods - I know that - but if I'd seen that on the shelf, I would not have bought it. If nothing else, olive oil should come in a tin, or failing a tin, in a _dark-green_ bottle, NOT a clear bottle. Here at least, clear bottle equals cheap, nasty oil.

@@Loribyn I agree, some oils from ozz are the real thing. not all of australian food is such good quality though, because some of it has to be irradiated because of pest problem. www.foodstandards.gov.au/consumer/foodtech/irradiation/Pages/default.aspx

@@roywalker7512 "irradiate" is a very interesting choice of words

@@ZimZam131 In Australia, some foods are irradiated when they are imported into the country. Since 2001, herbs, spices, some herbal infusions and teas, peanuts, almonds, cashews and pistachios are irradiated in Australia.

How has your keto journey been?

Thanks for watching!

All seed oils should be avoided - regardless of the packaging. Passing these off as 'vegetable' oils and shortening may be one of the most clever marketing ploys of all time. Plastic packaging should be avoided (as much as possible) regardless of the food or beverage they contain, as all plastics transfer synthetic chemicals to the contents. Phinney tested the olive oil from Sam's Club and found it to be the real thing, but I would be concerned about each new batch.

Exactly Dolores! Spot on, on every point. Good olive oil is olive-green; and as far as I know, is it NEVER sold in a clear bottle! (I'm Australian and our olive-oil is first rate, and so is the packaging thereof; but I've also bought it in Italy, France and Spain, and I've never seen it sold in a clear bottle before (but then, France, Italy, Spain and Australia aren't selling fake olive-oil!). So I don't know if that's just an American thing, or what, but as you said Dolores, if it really was olive-oil - which I too seriously doubt - there's something very wrong with it! In fairness, it could be from second or third pressings, so it's a substandard oil already, but it still should not have been sold in a clear bottle. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As for your comments on seed oils Jefferdaughter, that's not entirely true. If the seed is *naturally* oily (i.e., if you squeeze it with your fingers, you get oil).~ like olive, sesame, rapeseed, peanut, almond, avocado, coconut, walnut, flaxseed, et cetera, it's okay It's the *not* -naturally-oily-seed 'vegetable' oils (that have to be industrially processed to produce an oil from a non-oily plant) that are toxic. These would include soybean, cottonseed, corn, et cetera. Rapeseed oil (aka 'canola') and Sunflower oil are both naturally oily plants, but you should limit your consumption of canola because of its high omega-6 content; and you're best to eat the sunflower seeds themselves, if you like them, not the oil ~ again due to the high omega-6 content. And you'll hear a lot of nonsense about rapeseed oil - on the internet it never bloody ends! - but just remember that the eastern half of the world has been living on it for forever, along with lard; just like westerners have traditionally used olive-oil and tallow. So feel free to eat rapeseed-oil if you like it, but it must be COLD PRESSED, and pure; and just like olive-oil, you shouldn't cook with it. Treat it like you would olive oil ~ it's a dressing, not a cooking-oil. Good rapeseed-oil is NOT an industrial 'frankenfood' creation - that is a complete myth! - it's a natural oil, cold pressed from a naturally oily plant.

It was obviously a prompt for a photoshoot, not an actual product from a shelf. There is no cap. Look at the creamer, no brand or anything.

All of our oils - olive, avocado, coconut - is stored inside closed cupboards in the coolest room in the house (not in the kitchen). We have no other oils, period.

@@Loribyn unfortunately canola oil in Australian supermarkets is not cold pressed. It's more than likely gm too . All oils are ok fresh and cold pressed .

Redman's is the best and reasonably priced. I also take a kelp tablet for the iodine.

Not really. Most sea salts consist almost entirely of sodium chloride, which is the same as regular table salt. There are trace amounts of other minerals and contaminants, but these are not available in significant amounts. In total, they typically represent only about 2% of the product, with the remaining 98% being just sodium chloride. Read for yourself: himalayansaltusa.com/himalayan-sea-salt-nutrition-facts.html _"It contains about 98% sodium chloride, 0.07% magnesium, 0.05 sulfate and about 0.0006% iron."_ Of course, some minerals contained in sea salt are only needed in trace amounts, but the minerals a body needs to "balance out" sodium are primarily potassium, magnesium, and calcium. You're not going to "balance out" the sodium in sea salt with a product containing only 0.07% magnesium (23,900 ppm), and even _less_ potassium (4280 ppm) and calcium (28.7 ppm)! To put this in perspective: the RDA for sodium is about 2.3 g/day for sodium, 4.7 g/day of potassium, and 400 mg/day of magnesium. Obviously, only lethal doses of this sea salt would be required to satisfy the daily requirement for potassium and magnesium, and they still wouldn't be in balance with the kgs of sodium you'd be ingesting! To "balance out" the sodium you'll need to either eat foods rich in potassium and magnesium, or take other types of salts (like No-Salt) or supplements that provide these elements, and that's true whether you're using any type of sea salt or just ordinary table salt. Metabolically, this popular brand of sea salt, and most others functions just like table salt. The trace minerals might be of some benefit, but others may also be harmful, and there is often no way to know. Eating a healthy diet, perhaps supplemented with a good multivitamin will satisfy the requirement for the trace minerals that are actually known to be beneficial to human health. How much bromine, cadmium, or lead do you really want in your diet? How much is in your sea salt? Most people have no idea.

@@andreafalconiero9089 I was so wanting to be pissed at you and yet you completely won me over. God bless you!

This is me from t month ago. But up above is me from 3 minutes ago

No he really doesnt.

he warned about very long term fasting like one to four weeks. The high secretion of HGH comes from short terms fasts where the body is physically stimulated and that's where the autophagy and HGH preserving the muscle comes into play. After too long in a fasted state your body will break down muscle tissue regardless of what was mentioned above simply because the brain NEEDS glucose in order to function. Then, gluconeogenesis will kick in and eventually eat your muscle out, specially when body fat storages begin to run lower.

@@gustavosanches3454 What you say is probably true. However, it is important to note that body fat is also a significant source of glucose during a fast since the fat itself is composed of triglyceride molecules, each of which has a glycerol "backbone" that the liver can and does convert back into glucose. Whether that's sufficient to meet _all_ of the brain's glucose requirement is another matter...

@@andreafalconiero9089 That is incorrect..fat will in no way be turned to glucose..it will be turned in to fatty acids and ketones..the brain does not rely on glucose only..it works even better on ketones

@@MrBarasinski All I can say is that you are mistaken about fat catabolism. As I explained, stored fats are made of "triglyceride" molecules, each of which is composed of 3 fatty-acid chains on a glycerol backbone. When triglyceride is metabolized for energy, some of the fatty acids are converted into ketones, and the liver (and perhaps other cells) convert the glycerol back into glucose (this is the reverse of the process used in de novo lipogenesis, which transforms glucose into glycerol that is then combined with FFAs to form trig). Thus, fat catabolism is _one_ source of the glucose produced during fasting in the process known as "gluconeogenesis". This is not harmful -- it is in fact essential, since the human body needs to prevent blood sugar falling too low, otherwise unconsciousness or death will eventually result. This occurs because some cells in the body absolutely require glucose to function. In particular, mammalian erythrocytes (red blood cells) lack the mitochondria needed to metabolize fats. It is particularly beneficial that some of the sugar produced during gluconeogenesis is derived from stored fats (trig), otherwise it would be necessary to derive the needed glucose entirely from protein, which would result in a much faster rate of loss of lean muscle mass. I didn't claim that the brain relies exclusively on glucose, or that it works better on glucose than ketones. Perhaps the brain does not require _any_ glucose! A fat-adapted human brain could perhaps run entirely on ketones, since brain cells contain mitochondria. However, even on a long-term fast, brain cells will burn a certain amount of glucose (~25% of brain energy, I think) since the glucose _is_ available in the bloodstream and brain cells will pull it out and use it if they can. It's impossible to carry out an _in vivo_ test to determine whether or not brain tissue can run entirely on ketones, since to do such an experiment it would be necessary to reduce blood glucose to 0, which would kill the test subject. An _in vitro_ experiment might work.

@@andreafalconiero9089 Thank you sir your very informed and logical responses.

i love bacon and sausages but the nitrates in cured meat causes alzheimers. cannabis may offset the risk by not everyone consumes cannabis

@@1111111111202 IMore recent thought is that Alzheimer’s is more like diabetes of the brain....if you are in ketosis & low systemic inflammation, nitrates are no problem. If sausage & meat etc has been so bad, how did we make it this far ancestrally? Peasants eat agriculture while the rich eat meat & thrive.

@@CarnivoreDMD didn't know that. Thanks for the info. So just keep the insulin low. Well we survived this long cause food was healthier back then?

Dr. Phinney wrote more about his rationale on canola oil here: blog.virtahealth.com/canola-oil-keto/

what's your evidence that canola oil is not healthy?

Agreed! This was a bit of a shock to see. Would love to know why.

Canola oil is highly processed fat from the poisonous rapeseed. I choose not to ingest highly processed foods.

Rapeseed oil, is where canola oil is derived from. Canola oil is processed by a highly unnatural processing method that involves high heat, deodorization and the toxic solvent hexane! You would benefit greatly by watching and learning from KenDBerryMD 's RU-vid channel!

I'm gonna try it 🍓

Agoge diet works great, I've been using it for about 3

Polar bears go without eating for extended periods living only on their fat. Females even give birth and feed their young for months while dormant. Whales go for months living on their fat. What is different about humans?

Barbara Willins you just answered your own question. Go take a look in the mirror and tell me whether you see a polar bear. Sure, we are all part of the same tree of life, but that doesn’t mean that there are no differences. Take hibernation: bears can do it, we can’t. Try lie in a cave and will your heart rate to decrease to a couple of beats per minute.

Bernie Thauvette I agree. Phinney seems to be attacking a straw man of fasting instead of the actual claims. It almost seems like an ideological opposition.

I can personally attest that doctor Fung's recommendations on fasting are sound.

Son of Liberty well, if son of liberty says so, that certainly moves the needle.

Thanks for watching! Dr. Phinney doesn't recommend tracking macros as percentages-he recommends eating your protein requirements (as outlined here: blog.virtahealth.com/how-much-protein-on-keto/), keeping your carbs under 30g, and eating fat to satiety. The amount of fat you require for satiety will change as you move from weight loss to weight maintenance.

Anne-Marie Nardelli I would like to see this too.

good, let's see if it works

eating healthy is so boring 😂

Just got the diet emailed to me, looks good

thanks for sharing

I would recommend the agoge diet to everyone!

You might be getting inflammation from certain food groups. Check out Autoimmune Protocol (AIP). I have major inflammation for skin issues. IF and ketosis has helped, but I'm moving on to AIP to see if I can get ahead of it.

Maybe you could take a break from keto and fasting, then go back again. Doctors talk about metabolic flexibility, being able to switch between carbs and keto with ease, I guess this is the best. I am trying keto and fasting but don't see any change in energy level.

begonia tabriz I would guess at switching between the two is best. This is a lifestyle and I agree it might be coming from an allergic reaction to a specific food.

Just finished reading it today! I also just borrowed Mercola's book Fat for Fuel,\.

Pratik Pandey Hi! This would be a great place for you to start: blog.virtahealth.com/well-formulated-ketogenic-diet/

Dr. Phinney is in his 70s, and works for Virta. He was an academic and researcher.

Stevia is the best tho.

Yes, stevia is a better choice than artificial sweeteners. Some brands of extract have very little aftertaste. Better yet, is kicking the habit of sweets.

@@MuhammadDawoodYo stevia causes diarrhea easily!

@@olgalie that’s stevia with mostly erythritol that causes diarrhea. Pure stevia from a plant has no side effects.

I agree. While Dr. Phinney might be well versed in physiological aspect of ketogenic mechanism he is no well versed in product recommendation, as well as other areas of keto diet spectrum. There are some holes that he needed to fix for his future presentations. Dr. Fung and Dr. Berg do not recommend Xylitol or Sucralose, they prefer Erythritol.

Dr Phinney talk about it in the 1st presentation of this serie. At least about the main minerals.

That's what the Intermittent Fasting does. 12 hours of not eating is required to initiate. Stops after hour 19. Dinner at 6pm Next meal at Noon the following day = 6 hours of autophagy - which is a good thing!

@@kayallen7603 i read it starts at 36 hours and apoptosis in 72

Actually, Jack, that is a common myth. People on a low-calorie low-fat diet may lose weight in the short term, but their metabolism is lowered and they always gain the weight back - usually gaining back more weight than they lost. The people on the TV show 'The Biggest Losers' are never brought back for a reunions show because of this problem. In fact, long term studies of these, and other, people who lost weight on a very low-calorie, low-fat diet have shown that their metabolism is affected long term- even after the weight comes back. In addition to the weight issues, this results in them feeling cold, and having lower energy - as Phinney mentions in the video. The most successful long-term weight loss, for the vast majority of people, is achieved *and maintained* with a low-carb diet with moderate protein intake. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fL5-9ZxamXc.html Intermittent fasting (restricting food intake to a window of time each day) and water-only fasting for one or several days (or longer) affects the metabolism differently, as Fung and others explain.

Yes it is! You can find it listed here on our low carb shopping list: blog.virtahealth.com/low-carb-keto-grocery-shopping/