DRAG RACE!! BMW M2 COMPETITION v ALFA ROMEO 4C v LOTUS EXIGE 350 SPORT 

I am already thinking about a new exhaust as I want to enjoy the car on long journeys and the standard exhaust isn't great at motorway speeds

@@888mf4 If one could squeeze another 60 - 100 Bhp out of that motor (bigger injectors and/or a boost controller on the existing turbo) methinks wouldn't be impossible. They over-engineer these cars on purpose, at which point you're probably entering MClaren track time territory

ZappoTan bigger tires, different rubber will solve the traction issues no problem. The mclaren 570 (for example) weighs nearly 1000 lbs more than the 4C. It’s 0-60 time is 3.2 ish seconds. As I say; another 100 bhp will easily put the 4C in Mclaren time territory. I’ll defy you to prove otherwise.

I drive it with a tune (296hp and 400nm). Also with Yokohama semi slicks. 0-100 is 3,5 seconds. Straight line performance is equal to the gt3rs from last generation. Quarter mile is 11.7 seconds. All the stories about 300+hp 4C's not beating 12 seconds: bullshit! There are a lot of tuners just throwing numbers.

Check the 3rd and 4th gear gaps it builds. I have the Giulietta QV with same engine and gearbox and the way the TcT gearbox bangs in the gears from 3rd onwards would explain why it opened those gaps!

Sean Die yes the Lotus has a far better acceleration time

Mi abuelita pasa mejor los cambios que el piloto del Lotus.

Agree! The Lotus was not pushed at all. It would of walked all over the Alpha 😂

@@URLAMT hahahahaha

EXACTLY... did he short shift everytime to let the 4c shine?

think twice man, alfa is not for everybody...I own a giulietta¡

Really that is the reason??? LOL

The BMW is much heavier !!

The only reason is a drag race?

M2 is a great fast street car. 4C is a carbon tub, automated manual, unassisted steering sports car - amazing on the track but not a great road car.

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RIP that gear change

I think a lot of journalists were disappointed by the steering, which to be fair, is awful from the factory. However there is an easy fix and it only costs £450. Once that is done the car is transformed.

@@888mf4 And the lack of a manual transmission. I mean its supposed to be a "drivers" car.

Many of those reviewers are here in the US where these cars are 343lb heavier than in Europe. That's a lot considering it only deelops 237hp. In addition to that the car is very small, it feels very cramped inside and also most people find it difficult to name a 4 cylinder 1.75 liter turbo engine a supercar. The stereo they come with is like a $150 aftermarket unit they picked from the internet. Overall, it is a very nice sports car if it is your cup of tea

@@LeontariF1 There is nothing cheap about the carbon fibre tub

@@888mf4 Where did Leontari say the word "cheap"?

Also super late starts

That's sick mate! What is the 0-100kph time?

Wow

Looking forward to those videos of the 4C

How did you drop the weigh?

@@inSUBout a lot of work. technocraft t2 prepreg carbon seats with fixed aluminum mounts, the hood, rear clamshell and glass replaced with carbon, ditched all non essential interior trim including stereo airbags carbon doorcards and kickplate replaced the engine undertray with carbon fiber copy, lightweight battery, removed rear trunk, advan rsii wheels, nitron r3 coilovers, titanium downpipe and full exhaust, and the list goes on.... check out my insta account @alfaromeo4c_r for some pics of the build but its still a work in progress.

thanks dude!!

hahaha. OK I will stop :)

I have a 19 year old alfa 145 the only change it needs is the wheels

The lotus elise is better and cheaper than a 4C

What moda have you done to yours?

@@molotov2634 ecu and suspension adjustment for more neg camber and better stickier tires...and most important... driving school (Bondurant)

Lanzamiento tardío y cambios de marcha cortos

LC is so easy to use in the 4C

​@@888mf4Porque no empujaron al Exige?? Solo lo hicieron quedar mal, cambios cortos y lanzamiento tardío mal 👎 👎

Surprise? 😭😭😭 it has always been like this in history. ... How old are you 12 ??? Ajajajjahahah

Minor glitches are nothing in a brand new car. I love Alfa.

Martin C "This is a great lesson.... blablabla". No, it isn't at all! This video is so unbelievably stupid and fake that it makes me speechless how obvious this bogus is! Just totally bullshit! The BMW M2 Competition, despite having 410 hp and a DCT, seems so unbelievably slow in this "race", that it is very clear the idiot driver behind the wheel doesn't give full throttle! It's just a lying shit video full with bogus! Just look at the M2, how hesitant it accelerates after an even bad start but in "full swing"... and then suddenly after 100 meters or so, the Alfa Romeo activates its "afterburner" and is letting the M2 Competition behind it like nothing...??? With only 240 hp against a M2 Competion with 410 hp... Hahahahahahahaha! That's just completely unrealistic bullshit! Right from the start, after the M2 Competition only had a bad grip level on its place, then for a moment there's literally nothing more coming from its engine and transmission... it seems to having only something like 210 hp than 410 hp...LOL! How the fuck is this possible? A little Alfa Romeo 4C with only 240 hp should be so damn faster on a stupid straight than the BMW M2 Competition...? In this vidoe it looks just like it has 200 hp more than the M2...! Oh no... wait, it has 170 hp less... haha! Such an acceleration with only a small 240 hp 2 liter fourcylinder engine against a meaty 410 hp 3 liter inline sixcylinder car is just completely nonsense! Forget it! What a bunch of lying assholes! Perhaps this "drag race" was paid by Alfa Romeo UK... hmmm??

Martin C "Just saying.... blablablabla". Please, shut the fuck up! Little Alfa fanboy, you are talking bullshit! An Alfa Romeo 4C still is a little crappy Italian car. This socalled "drag race" was faked! That's very clear if you'd watch this bullshit on video attentively! A much more sophisticated BMW double clutch transmission plus much more engine power should be so stupidly slow against this Alfa Romeo...??? Really?? Haha! Please, tell your lies to other people!

@@user-jf8gd3lv7q my brothers mates alfa 4c dusted an RS3 with 400 bhp.....they yellow one is remapped to 280bhp. Your boring mans whip weighs 1500kg. 600 kg heavier than an alfa that gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds on paper....in real world its faster than a 135i remapped to 390bhp which is 4.3 seconds to 60 because of weight........Take it from me, unlike his last maclaren disaster video. This is believable because ive seen it in real life. RS3 is awd and gets to 60 just under 4 seconds... that means any figures quoted by manufacturers should be taken with a huge pinch of salt. The alfa acceleration figures quoted are bullshit and in real life its more around 4.1 seconds if its causing rs3 problems

The alfa got a jump on the lotus because the driver in the lotus was dog shit. Who drag races with the window down and he fucked a gear up on the second race reaction times again on these so called car enthusiasts are shocking.

Launch control in the 4C is epic and apparently doesn't kill the clutch.

Lotus has drag against it. Too much downforce. Not good for straight line. Without the wings it would be the fastest in straights.

Lotus would’ve won mate if it had a good driver

Thanks!

Did you just discriminate against her gender?

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior AHAHAHAHA

Nah, she just bogged the launch and may not have realized the smoke was happening until it was too late. Understandable for even an intermediate driver with a totally unfamiliar clutch and power band that you don't have to pay so much attention to in the auto. She's a good sport and that's what counts.

She's a drifter lol. She knows how to drive. It just shows that launch control and a dct is a game changer. This is coming from a guy who only drives manuals. Gotta admit a dual clutch is quick and launch control is game over

Every idiot can Launch a dct/Automatic transmission.... Manuals Need sensibility!!!

Thanks

Whats you channel?

Awesome times. Mine is going to have around 350-370hp soon. What mods do you have? Is that at the wheels?

DrJosh what mods are you gonna he doing to get that much out of yours? I’m looking into getting one

Noah currently full supersprint exhaust including high flow cat, Eurocompulsion intake, Eurocompulsion intercooler Hoses, custom tune. I must say changing the standard cat makes a big difference. Sound is amazing. Next step hybrid turbo and Eurocompulsion intercooler.

Quattroruote timed a 4C using launch control doing 0 - 100km/h in only 4.2s!! And the cars exported to the US are 158kg heavier for extra safety requirements. I think they have slightly less power as well.

It is the sane engine as the Giulietta QV in the same state of tune and emissions standard for Europe.

Mate the lotus would’ve been up there but the driver was dead awful

Pero el Lotus los aplasta, mira el lanzamiento y como tira cambios super cortos

Alfa is 4.1s to 60 mph official, there is also one trick which let it go faster. "In race mode, with left foot on the brake pedal, if you pull the right shift paddle the engine will rev to 3500 rpm, but if you also pull the left paddle the engine will rev to 6000 rpm and 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time will go down to 4.2 seconds" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_4C

Andys there is a launch mode on the exige in race mode. Like I said the lotus will and can beat the 4c on paper and in reality. The race was rigged because the lotus simply didn’t move and the driver was asleep. Let him re run the race, I have an exige 350s. Put his yellow 4c next to mine and we can see what genuinely happens when there’s some independent people both filming and driving. This topic isn’t even up for debate, the exige is simply quicker. It is what it is and if I were wrong ALL the car magazines and car industry would state it as fact to out sell each other’s products.

Me too!

The car guys need a 4C!

Is it easy to hire? - thinking about doing a special

Así es

Thanks Paul

haha - glad you enjoyed this

Well the Lotus had two opportunities.....

@@888mf4 The Lotus driver was terrible lol. Find someone with a reaction time who knows how to drive a manual (and pick the correct gears).

​@@BlatentlyFakeNameSus cambios de marchas como a 4 rpm, terrible ese piloto

Me too. I would have bought the 4C before the BMW any ways.

The BMW was catching up to the Alfa and it would've easily passed it. Then it would've been bye, bye Alfa.The Alfa 4C is very fast but the M2 is 600kg heavier than the Alfa.

Here we fuckin go again... ..you fuckin lost, get over it for once FFS

cy rose the thing that you don’t understand is, the 4c is a Fiat punto, and it’ll break down, and this is not in America so straight line performance is not the main part of driving, if I thought that I would have bought a gtr because they’re fast in a straight line and around corners, the m2 is built a LOT better than either of them, do you even know what lotus stands for! LOT UN SOLD, basically they’re just a bunch of light powerful cars that are built like Alfa romeos, or a jaguar xj220

@@R53.charlie you're a fucking idiot honestly, germans can't make racing cars, you were losing your home championship (DTM) in the 90s to alfas (or puntos if you prefer). Racing is in Italian DNA and we all know how cornering is on German cars ;) fuck outta here

Alfa was always Queen,but for me it was KING.

It took 4 hours to film this video and we could only start at 11am as that's when the rain stopped. There was only so much we could film. I thought drag racing three M2 cars and then two races against the 4C and the Exile would suffice, but some people are just never satisfied with the content

@@888mf4Contrary to your statement, I'm not disappointed with the result, however, I'm just honestly surprised and wondered if the result would have been different as we all saw the result was different when y'all switched the drivers for the M2. I actually like your videos and wish they would come more frequently.

@@kneckel Good to hear. Have two more videos going live before the end of the year.

You mean ifthe guy had a shorter response time than 2 seconds, was not shorft shifting or missing gears ? Do not really mind the result, but clearly the Exige is not well driven ...

Loco esta el Lotus, lastima que lo dejaron ver mal

Lot of trouble usually serious. Probably

It has a manual gearbox so can't get off the start as quickly as the 4C which has launch control

@@888mf4 good point. I hadn't thought of that

888MF 7:12 after a poor launch its clearly pulling on the 4C and the M2 in the gears. And then gets shortshifted down the rest of the runway and loses. Second race the driver misses third.

​@@888mf4Muy mal, el Lotus es una bestia, el 4C y el BMW no tenían oportunidad, ya un Exige 360 venció a un Mclaren 675lt, un 430 cup venció a un RS5 y Cayman

Thanks Ed

Thanks Frank

@@888mf4 what distance was that over?

Yes😍

LEBXLS elle tue la 4c 😍

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I bet that sounds good

The Lotus apparently has a short shift for 1st but like you say, theoretically. The Lotus had two opportunities and didn't come close. It is much easier to launch both the Alfa 4C and the BMW M2. So in the real world both are faster off the line.

​@@888mf4Simplemente lo dejaron ver mal, los Lotus tienes lanzamiento brutales

Thanks

Exactly. It is a well known fact that the official figures from Alfa are conservative. Some owners have put their cars on a dyno and got 270bhp stock. Realistically it will run 0-60mph in under 4 seconds. Official times say 4.5 seconds. I think the weight advantage of the Alfa really helped it to get off the line quickly.

Actual 0-60 on the 4C is 4.1@@888mf4 Tuned it will go sub 4 easy.

Great video though Mark and crew.

Thanks

Thanks for you lovely comments John

not double clutching like he should?

@@maxmuller4551 bruh...boomer or a kid?

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I noticed when looking back at the footage that the Lamborghini jumped the start....

Thanks!

7:44 he shot flames.

Josef Kocag that‘s the reflection of the sun mate^^

@@josefkocag3135 🙋😂

Katherine Nguyen LC is at 3000rpm

Glad you enjoyed

And the Lotus?

@Latvietis96 ...classic douscebag drinking the German Kool-Aid....FORZA ALFA BABY

@Latvietis96 What are you talking about,two different categories....

Come on for God's sake that guy in the Lotus got crap reaction time I'm and changed up way too early at three quarters of the way on the drag race and the Lotus should have won

Lo dejaron ganar, no es lo que parece, el Lotus lo aplasta fácil y el BMW lo logra vencer

Peccato per la solita politica castrante di fca .. per non far le scarpe alle ben più costose ferrari, hanno castrato la 4c a 240 cv .. la 4c meritava la versione quadrifoglio da almeno 400 cv ..

It is a well known fact that the official figures from Alfa are conservative. Some owners have put their cars on a dyno and got 270bhp stock. Realistically it will run 0-60mph in under 4 seconds. Official times say 4.5 seconds. I think the weight advantage of the Alfa really helped it to get off the line quickly.

@@888mf4 Interesting. Then again I own the USA model which is 375lbs heavier. Great video! Subscribed

@@maxmuller4551 because the CArbon Fiber tube has been reinforced for accident collision, also the suspension was tweaked. Aircon, extra air bags, stock leather stitching in the interiors

@@maxmuller4551 I think the software might have been tuned to account for the extra weight. I think.