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I along with doubtless others would love to see you guys do a remake of season 1 at some point, just curious as to what it would take to make it happen? Seems like an easier undertaking than doing the Buu saga or the remaining movies.. I always thought (though yes I know, it's GT) that GT would be great to do an abridged of, as there's plenty to poke fun at already, and honestly I think it would definitely be a WAAAAY better way to watch it!
If it makes you feel better, as a woman, I always viewed the rape joke as Bulma fantasizing about Vegeta because he was hot, then being disappointed when he said her hair looked stupid. Definitely not going to disregard any feelings or regrets you have about the joke, but it definitely isn’t as offensive as it could have been.
I liked that show when it was on TV. My dad was very disappointed. ... I can only remember bits from the episode where Taurus's mom discovered his identity, but there was also an evil duplicate of him, and he somehow used this to maintain cover, and ... Umm... I don't think it made sense when I was 6, either.
Honestly, until this very episode of the commentary I have never even thought about TTAF as a show, I just went "heh" and continued watching DBZ Now I honestly want to make some time to watch it at least a little and see it for myself ^^' Honestly... I wouldn't mind going through a list of all sentai likes ever created... If only I had the time... Still would greatly appreciate any and all recommendations of very unpopular sentais ^^'
I remember waking up early one day and seeing it. Discount Zordon was doing an intro and called them 'Galactic Sentinels'. GALACTIC SENTINELS SOUNDS SO MUCH COOLER, LIKE WTF!?
New headcanon: Guldo stopped time, searched all of Namek for a Steamroller, took a Ginyu pod, found a planet with a roller, stole it, and brought it back, and finally dropped it on Krillin. Why? Cause it's funny
The budget Super Sentai gag is one of my favorites. It implies that not only does Vegeta get uncomfortable at a child not knowing any of the good ones, but that he's got an apparently encyclopedic knowledge of shitty Super Sentai shows from the 90s and early 2000s.
Given that he works with the Ginyu Force, at least a little bit, I feel like it's not unlikely that the Ginyu Force are actually obsessive fans of Tokusatsu and make sure EVERYBODY knows about all of them.
The funny thing is, when I watched this back in the day I thought I heard Vegueta saying "Your hair looks stupid" at Bulma just to be a jerk and that was the reason she would so drastically change her hairstyle as the series went on. Just trying to find a hairstyle he liked
@@Igarappappa not really if the one you love likes you in a specific hair style than you should rock it the best you can it’s about making both partners happy in a relationship. Also the cell saga was created in the 80s so balma changed to fit with the times in all reality.
@Scsigs The newscaster in the episode Sailor Moon is in calls her "Sailor," suggesting that that's her first name, unlike the cartoon character who happens to look exactly like her.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 "Sailor" is short for "Sailor Moon," her full superhero name. I have no idea how anyone can think that means it's a first & last name thing.
While the Buu saga would still be cool, with everything they've said about it, I'd almost rather they just leave it be. If they were going to do any kind of reunion, I'd somewhat prefer they do a special for the Pilaf saga or something. I know that that wouldn't have most of the major characters from the main series, but that didn't hurt the Bardock special, so I don't see why it would be a problem here.
@@jasonkeith2832 But think of the dopamine rush and catharsis they could have from having a complete DBZA series. They could finally close the book on DBZA forever and never have to worry about being asked about it again.
@@Bugattiboy912 They effectively have closed the book with where they have already ended, and they don't have to deal with an saga that would take at least another 30 episodes that could risk yet more problems that plagued the Cell saga.
I'll never forget, in my high school anime club where I was watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for the first time, how loudly I asked my friend, "IS THAT WHERE THAT JOKE'S FROM??" during the climax of Jotaro's battle against DIO.
Regarding the Bulma Nightmare scene: I always assumed it was her brain attempting to reconcile her conflicting feelings about Vegeta. On the one hand, she's wildly attracted to him. On the other, she knows he's a villain. Add in her desire to 'meet a real man', and those feelings combined in her subconscious to form a nightmare.
Yeah I feel that if not for the situations that were going on and so many woman coming out qith their experiences he probably wouldn't have felt as bad about the joke but if that waant the feel of the moment he'd probably be able to come to terms and see the joke as a joke
The fact you did the Za Warudo reference BEFORE the show came out and got it so perfect is brilliant! Plus the fact that you had the "crapbaskets" get referenced in the official JoJo dub must have felt incredible.
Za Warudo was a reference LONG before TFS tho lol. it wasn't just a thing from the anime, it's been a meme since Stands were a thing in the manga. also when did the dub reference the crap baskets joke?
There was a comment in another video that said lani always interrupted Kaiser and that it was annoying Kaiser Which I disagree lani is far too considerate to purposefully annoy a friend and Kaiser is an adult and can handle himself. I love their friendship
@@Wingingvoice yea these guys have been friends for many many years. This is how they joke around with each other. We may see it as one of them being annoyed with the other but it's all in fun for them.
A lot of people telling us we don't have to apologize for jokes. I don't think we've apologized once 🤔 All we've done is critique ourselves on things we believe didn't age well. If you feel differently that's cool, but don't hate ❤️
eh kaiser has apologized once or twice. not a criticism so much as a “ look it was funny don’t say ‘ it was a different time ‘ years later. “ we get it y’all would have written it differently now but at the time it was a heavy funny joke. don’t let yourselves feel bad about it at all cause what was funny then should still be funny.
3 things: 1. I really appreciate your capacity to self-critique. Particularly on issues and jokes that might not age well. It’s really professional and mature of you guys. 2. THAT BEING SAID, just to critique your own self-critique, I honestly didn’t mind the sexual violence joke all that much. It certainly wasn’t the funniest joke of the episode, but it’s a joke that actually serves a *narrative purpose.* Namely, as Bulma's fantasy, it foreshadows the angry, toxic romantic/sexual dynamic between Bulma and Vegeta and sorta establishes that, while Vegeta will be an abusive asshole, Bulma might just be “into” that. So it is actually a joke that’s more than just it’s punchline. So go easy on yourselves! You’re much better writers than you give yourselves credit for. 3. Also, not for nothing, guys, but y’all have made *much worse* sexual violence jokes (see literally any episode of Hellsing Ultimate abridged, but especially the Valentines episode). I’m not complaining. Just…Saiyan ;)
I always thought that Bulma was fantasizing about Vegita. Or maybe I am as clueless as my ex-wife used to tell me. But i can see now it is a joke that should have been cut.
@@austins9950 "what was funny then should still be funny" is a really dumb take imo if people thought minstrelsy shows were funny then should they still be funny right now?
I like how "find me in the Alps" returned with Dr. Gero. Not to mention that it had a nice double meaning since he was trying to hide inside a huge mountain range.
It’s originally a censorship from “The Big Lebowski” A character yells “you see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!?” And the line got changed to “find a stranger in the alps” Total meme
It's cool to realize that Trunks saying "Monkey fighting Androids, in this Monday to Friday timeline" is also a reference/callback to the same thing lmao.
"That's what I like about you, you like me when I'm not pretending to be a firefighter or an athlete or a dog trainer." "Space dogs? You have Space Dogs on Earth?" "That's right, we call them Earth Space Dogs. I train them."
The idea of Recoome as a "performer" actually works really well because he did ballet as a child. That's what helped him develop his poses and agility.
Kaiser to every thing no viewer is capable of catching: “gah I hate this specific mistake! Look at it HERE”! He’s a true craftsman honest, I’m the same way 😆
12:52 - In the OG dragonball series, Yajrobe 1: Drills thru a dragonball to make a necklace, 2: Climbs Korin tower with goku on his back, 3: One-shots one of King Picolo's minions after dodging lightning
Seriously, Yajirobe wasn't even a trained fighter and he was one of the strongest beings on the planet when Goku met him. Just a dude who wanted to kill shit with his sword and eat it. Then he met his wonderful cat husband and the rest is history.
You know, remembering this facts about Yajirobe gives more sense how he could cut Vegeta's tail. Really wish he could have been written as another member of the team instead of a hobo that lives with Korin.
@@kevinb5417 "Yajrobe just wants to live a quiet life" > Yajrobe kills and eats the son of 'Satan' > Yajrobe climbs the unclimbable tower for food > Yajrobe gets sidelined by 'God' > Yajrobe backstabs Prince Kong > Yajrobe climbs the unclimbable tower again to hang out with a cat
Doing a re-watch with a couple of guys who've never seen it. All the season 1 stuff they loved so I am so excited to be in the namek arc with them too, we're on episode 22 now. So good. Thank you guys.
Hell I want to play D&D, Tried Roll20, got rolled and smoked by program. Tried Discord, all hell and chaos ensued. Flark that. NOTHING works. So, I write in AI Dungeon 2. I occasionally get into Xbox Parties to get people to listen to bits and pieces. I have to make sure people are at least 17 so the ultra-violence parts that are in it doesn't get skipped over they are some of the coolest fight scenes in there. (D&D magic and like scifi tech that works in tandem.) or they have to be okay with certain content, 18 if they want those explicit sexual parts to be read. Look you don't get anything for free, there is a modest fee, and that is just age outright. Cannot publish story that would break TOS instead it sits unpublished as just a story for me to work on whenever and entertain myself. Maybe if someone pisses me off enough, I WILL include them into my writing. I give them a name, (A new one) a description, and make them into someone that belongs but not for very long. The gimmick I use is, if they have a name, a cool description and weapons know how to fight or something pretty experienced. I just kill them later. Give the audience something to latch onto and hope for, and them kill them. BAD things happen to good people for no real reason. THAT is reality.
I always felt the Bulma and Vegeta joke was more Bulma beginning to fantasize about Vegeta. When she mentions having a dream about him later it kind of feels like an evolution of that as she got to know him more.
I think it'd be fine if you re-wrote a couple of things to make Bulma seem into it, even in the dream. Like, yeah rape fantasies are a thing, but what little we get here isn't enough to say Bulma is fantasizing about it.
@@austinleach1307: the fact anyone familiar with the source material would already know they end up together does help lend a bit of context to her being into it.
Krillen having a crush on Uppa had me on the floor when I first watched this episode. I love the OG DragonBall references. Like when Cell tells Trunks off for being inexperienced by bringing up Goku sending a rabbit to the moon.
Also how the story went from simple martial arts to aliens and ki blasting planets, but was inversely less fantastic than androids, a stick that stretches to the moon, and animal-people
@edgardomartin8299 I've recently been reading the DB manga, and the slow but steady change from the Pilaf Saga, which feels absolutely nothing like DBZ, to the Piccolo/23rd Tenkaichi stuff, which is practically a prototype for both the villains and fights of DBZ, is crazy. But yeah, the Pilaf Saga is arguably the most fantastical part of the whole series due to there just... being animal people and a pole that can stretch to the moon
I’m glad you didn’t cancel it Scott! I can’t speak for everyone, but I’ve personally been looking forward to these every week. The gift you all have given the DB community through DBZA is incredible. Thank you!
Also, his mood got better and better through the episode. I can understand that some artists, as individuals, are very critical of their own work. But when they get to create with a team that they really love, the memories can mean more than the final product. Kaiser’s joy, excitement, deep references, and backstories are what make this series so great.
Oh, you definitely can speak for me! I literally WAIT for the next episode as soon as I watch the one that was just released! And, I usually watch them twice, not back to back 😂, but yeah! Love this whole project!
I'm so happy Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters got referenced in this episode, because I was afraid my memories of watching it were some kind of fever dream.
This whole time I thought that was the point. I don't see why they feel like they have to keep apologising for this one joke, they've made edgier ones.
yeah bulma def seems like the type to have fantasies like that; maybe if they'd clarified after the dream that she was into it then it would've been better (I don't mind it how it is, tho)
@@guymatrin I'm fine with them wanting to apologize, it's their work and their choice. But, they literally made a Catholic priest joke in the previous episode and didn't even bat an eye or stop the video. And thats arguably in worst taste than the Bulma joke. So I don't know why they felt the need to address this like 4 times.
@@conorowens8382 that's current Dogma of the cult. More concerned with Twitter comments and unemployable internet crusaders on reddit, than the fan base.
I always saw the Sex Dream joke as Bulma being so bored with Yamcha that Vegeta's edgy energy was infinitely more appealing. And the idea of him wanting her more than the dragon balls (and therefore immortality) made her feel valued and prioritized.
I’m actually happy that the next episode is being handled separately, because I think it deserves its own breakdown. Episode 20 is probably the episode I rewatched the most.
The best thing about watching "this thing we're doing" is hearing you guys talk openly and honestly about your feelings. Kaiser talking about how he almost didn't want to do it on this particular day and didn't want to be too cynical really shows how much love and passion you all put into these projects. Thanks for sharing with us.
Lani messing with Kaiser is giving me life. Also since Kaiser mentioned it, I would love Love LOVE to see these with Hellsing and Taka whenever you guys are able to, cause Hellsing Abridged is unironically my favorite show, so to see all the behind the scenes would be amazing.
I always thought that the SA dream scene was Bulma having a froidian nightmare because her subconscious was struggling with her attraction to Vegita and her fear of him.
I love the fact that Vegeta was freaking out thinking they were gonna die bc the Ginyu Force was coming... And Vegeta is the one who killed EVERY MEMBER.
To be fair, the only one who could actually kill on his own at that power level was Guldo (and it depends on whether or not you consider Gohan and Krillin distracting him as an assist). Recoom and Burter were both beaten unconscious by Goku, he only killed Jeice after a zenkai boost, and Ginyu was a frog.
Here's the thing you guys, I know you're not a fan of the sexual violence joke anymore, but it IS key to remember that it's in Bulma's head. R-word fantasies in women are, weirdly enough, not all that uncommon. You might say 'Well, you're clearly a dude how could you possibly know that?' Lemme tell you a little story: I'm a writer for a little-known mobile game called 'Game of Sultans'. In it, you play as the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire - you conquer the world with your army, collect wives for your harem and make as many babies as possible to boost your stats. Now we didn't include THIS bit, but for those unaware: the Sultans would pick their wives and keep them locked up in a tower at Topkapi Palace, never seeing the outside world or their families ever again. Kicker is this: of our 2.5 million-ish players, 87% are FEMALE and over 80% live in Turkey or a surrounding country, so they would absolutely know the true historical context of the game. Hearing that little stat absolutely floored me. It's strange and messed-up, but it's a real thing. There's even an in-game option to play as a female and have a harem of boy-toys, but most players DON'T, they play as a dude and collect all the hot chicks to bang like they're freakin Pokemon. Weird huh?
I feel like the cycle of people getting mad at Kaiser over his feelings about the jokes can be boiled down to "I personally found the jokes funny, and I'm taking it as a personal attack when Kaiser says he regrets them."
It's like people think that I'm judging them for liking the jokes then and/or now. The truth is, if they still like the jokes? That is 100% fine by me. I still have a particular love of dark humor! As long as it's lot lazy and hateful. I'm regretful for some of our old jokes, ecause a lot of them just kind of rely on lazy shock humor, and often feel tasteless. That's it. But some folks want to get all upset, and act like we're giving in to the "woke mob." 🙄
@@KaiserNeko i just wanted to say the vegeta/bulma joke was hilarious to me, because I'm from the Ghetto and I've encountered more than one woman who was obsessed with that stuff, while I'M NOT, and I've even had women scream homophobic comments at me because I'm not into role playing a psychopath. So to me a "cr_zy b1_ch who wants to be with a serial killer" joke is great commentary on a real life phenomenon that is annoyingly common.
I get the guys not being super comfortable with it now but they kinda stumbled into a consistent character moment for Bulma here. She obviously likes a bad boy, she hooked up with Yamcha, the bandit that trapped her in a hole to rob her, back in Dragon Ball. She technically knows nothing about Vegeta at that point having only met him once in a threating but surprisingly reasonable confrontation. So her dream going that way makes a lot of sense. That he actually turned out to be a good man at his core was a huge win for Bulma.
Kaiser, I have heard SEVERAL reactors say your Burter voice is almost IDENTICAL to the version they remember. Do not put yourself down for voicing 3 gravelly characters because omg your Corrin/Yajirobe banter gives me life.
That never really came off as an SA joke to me, I always thought it was Bulma fantasizing after falling asleep reading an adult novel, especially when it's followed by the "You're hair looks stupid." line from Vegeta.
The next episode for me is the GOAT episode of this season. I just adored the wrestling stuff so much. Especially since it adds character to Recoome that goes beyond the "Big dumb idiot" trope most people use for him. He's a fun having wrestling fan. I love it so much.
I actually sent you guys a DVD set of Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters a few years ago! I hope it brought as much cringe as I remember! xD Also, thank you both for taking the time to commentate over the episodes. It's awesome and insightful and always worth watching. Don't beat yourself up over decisions made in the 2010s, those were weird times.
Nice to see Kaiser had the same reaction I had when I heard the name "Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters From Beverly Hills" when I first saw this episode. When I heard it, I was like "Okay, you guys made that last one up! I've either watched or at least heard of the other six shows, but there's no way that's a real show!" The price one pays for having a curious mind.
I actually WATCHED this show as a kid. I wanna say it was on TBS but I am not sure. Watched a few episodes with my dad when I stayed home from school when I was sick.
@@marcocamacho8467 What does your loose memories think about that show? It looks like generic desperate Sentai garbage made by a western studio with a budget of 4 digits to me.
@@LordofSadFac Oh it absolutely was. A very cheap wannabe Power Rangers. Very low budget. They reused a lot of the scenes of them dodging lasers. And that drop kick they show? They all did that probably every single fight. If I remember right their finisher was surrounding the monster and holding out their hands to send out their respective color lasers. I am not too sure about that one. But yeah low budget cringe for sure. Cheesey morals in every episode.
Got damn lanni is good at voice acting. Seeing him in person when he’s doing it like when he did the ocean dub racoom around the 17:15 mark was so cool
The fact that he just did it with very little prompt just makes it even more impressive. He's gotten extremely talented as a writer and as a voice actor! (Edited to remove redundancy)
My biggest takeaway from all these videos, COMMUNITY IS REAL. Fans in the community came around TFS to help them polish and craft this amazing series and love letter to DBZ.
I like the running joke that Kaiser either voices gay guys that you wouldn't think are gay or straight guys with a gay joke. Trunks is the one with the least gay jokes but they are there.
Just to let you guys know, there's a whole generation of kids (my own son included), that's discovering Dragon Ball through your dub. As it should be. Thank you.
Kaiser being critical of your own work is always a sign of getting better also it adds to the commentary and makes it interesting to hear what you would do better.
I definitely agree which is why it annoys me at how much of the fans are like kaiser keeps criticizing the abridged that he helped make, and people are getting all whiny about him saying I wouldn't use this or that these days
@@dylanb659 Yeah it’s annoying to hear people complaining about him apologizing. Like if he feels the jokes could have been better or are outdated let him express it.
I think it helps that when vegeta says "spread em" she reacts more with shock / confusion than fear. she doesn't rlly give a proper reaction before being woken up so despite how it comes across it's kind of an open-ended scene
As an Aussie, the unbelievably over the top and stressed Aussie "accent" is amazing, I think it really adds to the bit of Jeice being a 'space Aussie' way more than an actual Aussie playing him. Also appreciate how you didn't go for the Foster's joke.
After Lani mentioned watching a couple new watchalongs, I stumbled upon AniMelon's watchthough. It's so pure and happy! It's wonderful seeing everyone react to something that honestly, was a big highlight of the last decade for me.
8:45 I want to say thank you to you guys for mentioning Samurai Syber Squad. I watched that show when I was a kid, but could never remember the name or find it online when I searched for it in the early 2000's and kind of just gave up and forgot about it, but when you guys mentioned it here I thought it sounded familiar and looked it up and was overjoyed to see it was the show I had been looking for all these years!
right? Super-Human Samurai Syber Squad was so dope and cheesy and I loved it. I also love that it was iconic enough to make it into the title of one of the animes, specifically SSSS:Gridman (the 4 s's stand for Super-Human Samurai Syber Squad)
15:07 "It's a RECREATION Dragonball! He bought it off a website! It's not an actual Dragonball!" So you're saying....He got that Dragonball.....from WISH....?
I continue to appreciate that y'all are acknowledging the awful shit y'all shouldn't have done. It never comes across as "apologizing", it comes across as people who have changed, grown, and realized that while the action felt like it had merit at the time it actually didn't. That's *really* respectable. ETA: Also, I'm a pro-wrestler, and I have used y'all's "I'm planting a dumbass tree!" right before I suplexed someone.
@@summerrunner1755 Cool story. I called 911 so I didn't kill myself and got handcuffed to a stretcher. And that was just *one* time I barely managed not to kill myself. Your point?
THANK YOU GUYS! I've watched DBZA more times than I can recount, it is absolute soul food for me and helped me smile in dark times. I'm extremely grateful for the sweat, tears and passion you all put into the series. Have a blessed life!
I've always seen the Bulma dream with Vegeta as her conscious mind's idea of what kind of person Vegeta is clashing with her subconscious being attracted to him. Like she was unknowingly attracted to him despite her very real fear and hatred towards him, and that dream was the result. Especially after the scene either from History of Trunks or the Cell Saga Epilogue (can't remember which) where we see Bulma updating her online dating profile and we see that she's now actively seeking out men like Vegeta now that she knows that he was her type.
