Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 52 

*_FULL COUNTER KO!_*

@@CaptainCFalcon PERFECT!

it was funny as hell seeing Lani gaslight Taka

Taka counter counter response would be “Oh yeah remember Bojack”

A *perfect* counter

Yep. Goku has no idea how much pent up anger Gohan has and he almost got it unleashed on him without realizing how much of it was directed at him. Honestly it's not even until episode 60 part 2 that he finds out that there's a MASSIVE difference in how they view things.

That’s always how I interpreted it too. Thiiis close to just attempting patricide.

Nice

I love the phrasing of this because you’re honestly right, that boy was ready to chew Goku’s ears off like a wounded chimp

​@@drag0nerd That's sounds like an Insult that Freeza would say

“And that’s how Krillin saved the day.”

Just cuts off his head and then it does confetti and the fnaf end of night children cheering sound effect

He could've just regenerated even if it did decapitate him though

@@doctorrussiathank god they didnt do that

I wouldn’t mind if they did it like half way like fan interpretation Krillin: h-how da-dare you DESTRUCTO DISC!!!!!!!!! It hits cell’s neck but leaves a tiny mark Cell: oh that’s cute and quite dangerous if you were a saiyan to bad you aren’t Krillin (basically the reverse of what tien did)

Yup, Vageta’s definitely gonna need about 2 Senzus for that one For it Broke his Pride………….And his Spine

Senzu beans only heal physical damage, he needs a therapist for emotional damage.

@@mauroperez2848and he did in fact have a government ordered shrink after all of this 😂

KO…I win…(perfect)…here comes a new challenger

Eemooooootionaaaaal Daamage!!!

Yes! Because until the Sons come out of the Time chamber there's literally nobody that can stop him.

It's a nice touch of mockery that works on multiple levels. Leave to cell to be as efficient as possible when it comes to absolutely wrecking vegeta.

I never knew he actually tried to dodge it at the last second as well. I always knew that Cell was surprised at the amount of power the Final Flash had, hence the "oh shit" he says at the last second, but I never took that as him realizing it was actually gonna kill him.

@@zachattack5691 Yeeep. Even in canon he planned to stand there and take it, then realized, "Shit if I don't dodge I'm dead" and got out of the way of the full blast at the last second.

@@zachattack5691Cell clearly got his ability to dodge from Gohan.

It might also be a reference to the German dub of DBZ, because he straight up goes "OH SHIT" there.

​@@Bluebedo I truly don't remember that, I've always thought it was more like "OH THAT'LL ACTUALLY HURT!" but *never* knew he moved. Just not realizing that Vegeta *can* hit someone *REALLY HARD.* Am I just not remembering, is it only in the Sub/Manga? It makes so much more sense realizing he did move though

yo do you think vegeta would’ve killed cell with that final flash? that’s crazy to think

@@godlytyungodly I for one absolutely believe it.

@@higglybiggly1174 but he’d have to take it to the full head & body , i don’t think it would’ve been enough to wipe him out like gohan did with the father son kamehameha

@@godlytyungodly Maybe one cell would have survived (like when he self destructed), but Cell was clearly not confident enough to try it.

His favorite Pokémon Game

I won't let you lay a finger on my butterfinger ANYMOOORE!

That makes too much sense

With spiky hair!

Bart is 10 and Gohan was 9 but you’re right lol

@@yokingstream1005 Gohan was 11 in the animu and this don't look like no mango to me

LANI IS THE HYPE!

LANI IS THE LEGEND

Vegeta+therapy=Lani.

oh shit hey cubi

The Delivery on Vegeta's "Give me a moment.. all you'll be feeling.. IS OBLIVION!" is actually one of my favorite dialogues in all of Anime.. and it's from a Parody.. they did it better than the original Dub by a mile. I still today rewatch DBZA and when Vegeta drops that line, I get bone chills and replay it about 5 times. Legendary stuff Lani & TFS!

Kinda tragic in it's own way now that you mention it. A toxic friendship at best if it could've worked.

i do love with both Cell and Piccolo, that their fusion/absorptions carry over subtle character traits from their components. I personally think Piccolo would have become a Kami like character at the end of the series, if TFS ever did the entirety of Buu.

​​@@gregday4682That was a character trait established with Buu mostly. When Buu ate or absorbed someone he takes their power and personality traits.

It may actually be a references to the German dub of the final flash scene.

I like to imagine the claim that the Final Flash is the single most strongest blast in the cell arc to be 100% true. Gohan's Kamehameha had the benefit of reflecting Cell's energy back at him, so doesn't count. We know characters in DBZ can fire attacks that are "stronger" than their power level (e.g piccolo against raditz) and Vegeta truly just concentrated his energy into something that can shatter the whole planet 100 times over.

@@lololol924 That. Gohan had to half make a Kamehameha to counter Cell, but Cell gave Vegeta ALL the time he needed to charge up. And as we saw again and again, charging an attack is no joke since you can output FAR more energy than you normally would.

I think Toriyama confirmed that Cell moved at the last second otherwise he would have died. And i think he does say "oh shit" in the uncensored english version of the english dub

its the vegeta ego brain

...from Lani's what?

Lani's "We don't have dragon balls, Trunks!" is one my fav lines from him!

Lani screaming *OBLIVION* just goes so insanely hard. It's to the point I wish it was actually in the show

And for the first time, Vegeta *isn't blowing smoke*.

I think about that Vegeta line all the time. Lani's ability to make that line go so hard is inspiring. It's one easily one of my favorite lines to quote during a friendly competition.

Honestly, flashing into Grade 3, if you're skilled enough to do it, but just only doing it when you're charging up a big attack for a long time anyways, is probably the most efficient way you can get the benefits out of that form.

Ooo can I have the source please. 👀 Not accusing the validity just wanna read it for myself.

The source is in the final flash technique itself…the energy he was using to charge was causing his muscles to widen and expand just like trunks’s SSJ3 transformation. The difference is Vegeta unleashed all that build-up power into a concentrated blast when it reached its peak instead of holding it all in like trunks decided to do.

​@@UnknownOrigin18That's SSJ2, not 3. 3 is the one with the really long hair that Goku and Gotenks use.

@@JoelPerry1sorry meant to say SSJ grade 3 not SSJ3

Time stamp?

@@Moonstriker2514 31:17

​@@skinnydude9118thank you

Also "Talk shit, get lit" lol

On both ends

Villains: f around and find out. Heroes: We gotta be careful. DBZ Villains: f around and find out. DBZ Heroes: How much and how long? DBZ Villains: I’m sorry? DBZ Heroes: We will, we’ve thought of good signals for each other. DBZ Villains: And what would that be? DBZ Heroes: When one of us breaks, THEN we get serious. DBZ Villains: Don’t you want to specifically AVOID that?! I believe that’s a poor decision. DBZ Heroes: Maybe, but it’s mine to make. F around and find out what happens why don’t you?

vegeta is "talk shit, get hit", while cell is "fuck around and find out"

After Taka confirmed TFS Goku is an anime Homer Simpson, I believe it.

That would be the perfect episode

Oh, so that's why he likes to sing!

We need a scene of him constantly stepping on rakes in a future HFIL episode.

Nail. Gather the dragon balls.

True

Oh my God... Holy shit you're right! But like to be fair Goku does it 100% unintentionally. Perfect Cell IS doing it intentionally. When Goku and Cell finally meet, guess who gets pissed at the end? Cell.

And that moment is because Goku decided to intentionally enrage Cell so he would provoke Gohan so that Gohan would very easily destroy Cell. The details are perfect.

Yep. He got Goku's talent for it with Freeza's sadism making him want to do and enjoy it. ... And then Goku turns that on him later on.

​@Bluebedo then add Vageta's urge to taunt anyone.

Goku can actually get under people's skin on purpose when he wants to, it's just the only person he disliked enough to do it to is Freeza. Meanwhile, Cell has no such restraint.

Makes sense when he's built from the best fighters.

That's how you know the gohan is in there

He’s got DNA from the galaxy’s strongest weebs.

"How do you know about the parts you weren't there for?"

He's worse. He's the Dragonball Wiki WEAPONIZED.

I was thinking that too. Like absorbing them he also absorbed their affection

“ So are we cool?” was definitely 17 and “Hey don’t lose your head; they were my family too” felt like an 18 line

❤

Lani’s so good it actually took me a few videos before I realized I wasn’t watching Chris Sabat

Very well said

I agree, but I like to think the Kienzan DID in fact sever Cell's head. Thanks to his regeneration, however, this prompted an IMMEDIATE "Oh shit, the bald one's not playing around! Gonna have to nope that one in the butt." Healing it before anyone notices, then decommissioning Krillin before he can make a second attempt. Also wanna point out, although I may be wrong, but if it didn't cut through then it would've broke/shattered/dissolved as soon as it hit Cell. Unless it was a video edit from Scott, this disc went STRAIGHT through the neck, out into the distance a ways INTACT, and THEN dissolved. 12:30-12:40 for reference.

@@phillipzeles7986 I thought that was just the Kienzan shattering, the residual energy sort of sliding off of and around Cell's head due to the inertia of it being thrown as it continues forward. It loses its shape instantly and explodes, the Kienzan is supposed to retain its shape through and after hitting its opponent. Look at Frieza getting cut by his own Kienzan for example, it didn't just retain its shape but continued past him and flew away into space. Thems is durable cause they're meant to be, but it completely shattered like ice on the sidewalk when it hit Cell's BEEFY Neck.

I'm pretty sure Vegeta already should have known that Cell had Piccolo's DNA so he could regenerate. He just wanted Cell to not dodge or block his ultimate attack, because he thought hitting him straight on would be enough to kill him.

@@BmanTheChamp pretty sure vegeta doesn't even know piccolo can do that.

​@Lambent_Omega I agree that the Kienzan, while very powerful, can't cut through _absolutely anything_ like Kaiser suggests. For example, I think Jiren probably could've taken a Kienzan from Krillin head-on. However, Jiren probably would've needed to dodge Frieza's Death Slicer because of how much stronger Frieza is.

I always though it was Megatron from Beast Wars

TFS Perfect Cell is absolutely perfect. Stupid Gohan.

The video has only been out for 5 mins, you had this prepared

He paralyzed it from the waist down

Nah, he dramatic finished that motherfucker

He broke the button

He all but grabbed Vegeta's wrist and made him press it

In Totally Not Mark cell arc review, he points out that vegeta wants to see stronger fighters to a way prove that he is the strongest while goku wants stronger fighters as a way to better himself.

Vegeta wants to win, Goku wants to fight

Yeah, it seems like Saiyan culture corrupted the Saiyan instinct, changing it from "seek greater power to become stronger" to "seek other powers to prove we're stronger." I know Toriyama hasn't put in anywhere near this level of thought, but I've held a bit of a headcanon belief that the Zenkai boost is a cultural misunderstanding of the Saiyan instinct to find stronger and different powers to grow stronger by adapting to that power, not just simply a power up from almost dying. There's a good few examples, but the simplest are admittedly from Super, and that would be Goku in the ToP, constantly growing in power despite wearing himself out, due to so many different powers around to engage with and innately learn from. Then there's Broly, who seems to be an extreme example of that rapid adaption to other, stronger powers. Edit - and Vegeta going Blue on Cabba and telling him to remember the feeling of that power. It's beyond his body at that point, but he still demonstrates it as something Cabba can reach, ritual be damned! Culturally, Saiyans would only gain their growth from a power they could learn from if they actually survived it, which given they were typically there to commit genocide, it's probably rare they were ever spared. Hence, the misunderstanding of their biology. Still, doubtful Toriyama thought of this, so it's just my headcanon.

​@@ShaimingLongThat's a pretty interesting and reasonable head canon.

@@ShaimingLong I like it

That's at the moment Vegeta reaction to Trunks helping out

@@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505 uhhhhh what?

@@SplicerOtter Lani's reaction to Kaiser failing the phrase

@@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505 that explains nothing That whole outro joke was just Kaiser pulling a Taka to be funny Almost every outro since Taka started commenting on these with them has been fucked up by Taka and they reacted the same way to the outro being fucked up like that

One of the best dramatic moments in abridged.

He is the strongest human in the universe. You can't deny that.

​@@vashdesperado1232tenshinhan?

​@@nickelwrangler446Japan doesn't give a shit about Tien. As Plague of Gripes would say.

... S*** that's good.

But then Perfect Cell would have lied.

That broke me when I saw it

Never hit me hard because I immediately went to it being a call back to King Cold when Trunks killed Frieza

That and when he blasted cell in the last kamehameha struggle

Yeah that's definitely a top moment, only now followed by the Final Explosion in the Buu Saga.

It was never as popular though.

Getting everything they asked for.

Similar to how Frieza went "ohmygod" when he was hit with the Spirit Bomb here.

Biting off more then they could chew

I think part of what makes it so great is it actually defied expectations and went against a different trope, After his power up we were all expecting it to fall back into the same trope of vegeta being on the receiving end of a one--sided beat down because the villain powered up. The fact that cell actually came so close to getting killed by vegeta because of his ego right after becoming perfect was a great subversion of one trope, The villain being invincible after powering up, a reversal of another one, vegeta almost killing a villain because of their ego, and following a third one, the arrogant villain being too cocky. It was a fun mix of following, subverting and reversing three different tropes all in one scene.

@@gun506Preach, man.

You're either perfect or you're NOT me

The delivery of the "oh shit" sends me every time.

@@GreenlandRobot tfs paid homage to the german dub with that one. Cell said without translation "Oh shit!". Hope it now sends you even harder knowing that.

Sadly, in another one of the commentaries they mentioned that they had to pay to fly Taka out during a very specific time frame or else it would have cost them $1,000 more. It would have been really great to get them all together on a zoom call or something similar, but they would have had to shell out probably several thousand dollars to get the whole cast together.

Moving on when they did helped that. When you are with someone all the time you can grow to resent them, that’s how some crews fall out hard. Them backing off and doing their own thing means they never reached that sort of point and it means they are still good friends that collaborate every so often. It’s lovely to see.

And their little exchanges are fucking hilarious.

I feel bad for Taka because half of all the great lines he thinks he wrote, he finds out he didn't lol

This was Trunks' original reason in canon, and I like that they took the time to acknowledge "That's stupid, go help him!"

Honestly, that was annoying as hell it’s like you had all that power and you could’ve killed cell right where he stood before he could absorb the android, but because your daddy complex you let him get away with it Krillin I don’t blame him for smashing the remote after all if you come across a person who feels like they’re going to be your soulmate for the rest of your life you’re willing to risk everything for them your life, the safety of others, but with Vegeta did was just plain selfish Same with trunks

@@mechajason There might be SLIGHT cultural differences at play here. Deference to your father is a big thing in Japan, and Trunks does some of that in the story. But Toriyama also acknowledges that Vegeta is a total asshole, so Trunks was still in the wrong for sitting on that for as long as he did.

@@mechajasonthere is also the fact that in this version that Krillin DOESN’T know what Cell is trying to do at that point, he’s out of the loop there, the only ones who know are on the Lookout and they never tell him what is going on. Him smashing the remote was also because he didn’t think he needed that sort of backup, if someone told him Cell wanted to absorb 18, then he might’ve kept it as a last ditch effort thing, but because he isn’t aware, he smashes that option entirely. Like I don’t even blame him, if people had told him and he did it, it would be a different scene.

yea, sad that his "outshine of daddy" was actually "daddy being more tactically smart" then his son... Still no match for Goku's strategic brilliance of not even bothering with that 1st "buff" transformation~

I know right

bromance is strong

The body gesture tho they could act and I would love to see them

Yeah feels like an improvement and evolution of the kinda funny but sorta mean, awkward and uncalled for “mount bitch” speech that he had to Bulma on namek

The original phrase might work even better for vegeta: 'Pride goeth before destruction.' Because cell absolutely destroyed him

With the exception of DBFZ, fuck the games.

@@JustArten I mean some of the dbz games are really good. Like bt3 and some others.

​@@JustArten Literally AND metaphorically no.

Ikr I was practicing my own final flash for weeks before doing that part of the story and they cut it

​​@@JustArtennah fuck DBFZ

They always do really well whenever Death Battle gets them in on a battle. I love the Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver the most for this reasoning. Silver is voiced by Bryce, the current VA of Silver, and then Trunks has the DBZA voice. And the lines and interactions between the two are great. Like Silver's "Seriously?! This is what I _do_!!" and Trunks' "This is the end time-locked hedgehog. The end of your future!!" And might I say that any time the fight involves a DBZ character, the background track just _slaps!_ I mean between Hedge of Tomorrow and the banger that is Princes of Pride, no matter win or lose you're gonna have a great time watching and a fight of epic proportions! Now that I think about it...I'd love to see a battle with Piccolo in it. Got no clue who he'd be fighting against, but there's potential with the new Orange form and all the different techniques and abilities he has, between the regeneration and stretching limbs too.

I also noticed that Taka lapses into Heathcliff as his Perfect Cell performances go on

If you are good at something, always give yourself some credit.

The Streamer Brainrot is a powerful curse that has both good and bad side effects

Taka saying "Chat!" at a bar when having a normal conversation and everyone's confused about who he's talking to.

saying chat is just the default annoying person thing to say

And yet it still has comedy in the serious moments too (Cell's "Oh Sh!t" as he's about to get hit) but it doesn't feel out of place with the serious

I'm gonna be heartbroken when they wrap it up and we don't have any new ones to look forward to.

To be fair, in most fighting games if you take ANY damage it doesn't count even block damage. There are a few exceptions though.

counts for Yoshimitsu in Soul Calibur appearances too, draining opponent's health to refill his still counts as a Perfect Victory. Doesn't matter if you took damage, only if you have 100% HP when you win.

Except Trunks does that *after* this scene

Hell yeah! Their chemistry together is just perfect.

"Lani is a bastard man!" lmfaooooo

100% it's the reason I watch Lani and Kaiser play Kakarot. Kakarot is by no means an interesting game to watch but the dynamics TFS has makes it so much greater. Lani and Kaiser are my second favourite composition, Lani, Kirran and Grant are still number one.

Which one?

It involves dead men 😏

​@@Xeroph-5ohooo Trunks.... You couldn't *fathom* the number of dead men behind me.

Is it the "Dead Men" line?

​@@koMikarnewait no I'm wring that's 53

And to put an even bigger point to your point: Cell wasn't even trying.