DRIVING MY ELECTRIC CAR THE LENGTH OF SCOTLAND WAS A NIGHTMARE - HERE'S WHY 

Hilarious 😂 😂

Have you ever been able to start the fuelling and go to lunch, or into the shop, or take a leak while it was filling up? Or did you stop, fill up, move the car, the do "other things'?

Usually takes about a max of 5 minutes to fuel up pay and on my way. IMO the love affair with EVs will burn out over the next couple of years. Here in Australia we have the farce of outback charging stations getting the power from a diesel generator. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@rogerstarkey5390 and still it takes much less time then trying to fill up with electric, and does a hell of a lot more miles.

Trying to remember when it cost me £78.00 to go 300 miles - oh yes, that was when I had a petrol car (Discovery Sport, which did an actual 28 mpg at best with an official range of around 40mpg, oh look, real world mileage is down by over 25% everybody seems to forget that) , now I do 300 miles in a bigger, faster, more luxurious EV and it costs me £8.33 and no, I don't spend 5 mins filling it up, I spend 10 seconds plugging it in and 10 seconds unplugging it and I sleep the rest of the time.

That's fine for now, but being able to get diesel almost everywhere may not be the case in 10+ years....and of course in another 10 years, there will be EV's capable of 650 and more on a single charge.

Depends on the EV, they're not all the same. Tesla, enter destination address and depart.

@@Brian-om2hh 650 miles on a charge? Which one is that? I want to see that one. Doea it have a big screen where the knobs should be?

@@Brian-om2hh Jam tomorrow?

Exactly.

I agree with the comments except the comparison of his Renault Zoe. You wouldn’t do the same trip comfortably in a Kia Picanto either. So the hire car Polestar is ok with me. All the other stuff you mention, I agree 100%.

@@christopherwhitehead8946 that's my point, a petrol Zoe or picanto would do it. The truth that many miss is that ice cars levels the playing field for anyone from all economic backgrounds. Actually the more expensive the car the worse it gets, but EV is the opposite. With an EV you have to pay more to get a vehicle that isn't as capable as a cheap ICE equivelant, which disadvantagesture the majority of people who can't afford them. (London is a class example of the disadvantage this kind of policy creates with EVangelists opinions)

@@skillsrev I have just sold a 2006 Citroen C3 Exclusive 1.6 HDi that I have owned for the last 10 years. I would have happily done a JO'G to LE journey in it. It was surprisingly comfortable, had a cruise control, did 65mpg and around 650 miles on a tank full of fuel. I have never had to meticulously plan long journeys in it because I never had to constantly worry about my range and my stops in it were never dictated by whether there were fuel pumps at the location. Oh, and refuelling it and gaining another 650 miles took 5 minutes rather than hours.

@@Twmpa I agree, I have done plenty and not once had to worry about a refill or have to demand that the government install new fuel stations for my own convenience

@@Twmpa Also you can see the petrol stations as you go along your journey whereas trying to find a charger can be a nightmare.

Still some good information in this video. I've never heard of the app he used for planning the trip. The only app i hear about is zap map. The app he used looked good and would be useful for Lee in your future challenges 👍

3 series is a fine machine, no doubt about that. No idea how you can spend 8+ hours in one with just a 5 min break though, no matter how comfy it may be, I couldn’t do that in a proper luxobarge.

@@ModernHeroesI love driving. Nothing I’d rather be doing. I hate service stations and I hate waiting around - so it’s diesel for me :)

@@GeoffBuysCars never need servicing and sensors never fail at inconvenient times and resale is excellent and can afford to drive through London as often as I want.

@@garysmith5025 someone has to front for the fighting withdrawal - and real men are the last hope.

Just for a fun comparison, that would take about 1.5 hours longer in a long range Tesla as a reference. I only do these exercises for personal interest. I've assumed that your 15 minute fuel stop would also combine as a charging stop. I'm guessing that as it seems you're on a time mission, you're aiming to go straight through passport control and into the boarding queue? I'd avail myself of the opportunity to pick up some cheap wine and there are superchargers both outside the duty free and also the flexiplus lounge so that would allow some tweak to the journey to charge there. I wouldn't need the 41 minute charge at Reims and would instead do the longer charge at Calais which would knock an effective 20+ minutes off that 1.5 hours difference but if you're going straight to boarding then that clearly wouldn't work well. Just an interesting paper exercise comparison that's all.

yeah... you end up buying globalist antiwhuuuite coffees every 5 minutes....

Fully agree with this. When i'm doing long journeys for pleasure sure I stop but it's very rarely at some grubby service station. It's normally at some view point or something to just relax for 10 mins and take in the views around me

Sure - the Sat Nav app. Which took him off the M80 and M74 because of traffic jams

@@tonyireland2234 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@tonyireland2234 Five actually.

Honesty is all anyone is asking for. Geoff isn’t too bad but Lee is a fraud.

Well said, I’m undecided but videos like these are very informative.

It’s a response to someone making an arse of the same journey in a £120,000 car 🤷‍♂️ why is the value of the car *I* did it in so important?

@@ModernHeroes pot-kettle 👉sour grapes 😆

@@ModernHeroes MacMasters Taycan is only a £40,000 car - it lost £81K already in value in the first 2 years!

Hydrogen is not economically viable, hence why shell have closed down their hydrogen filling stations, Norway too and why Mercedes have thrown in the towel after a decade of research and spending millions of euros to no avail.

Yet one of those things might actually be pretty difficult, as it happens.

Not burn your house down? I assume its not a Land Rover v6 diesel...?

The good news for EV drivers is that with all the new charging points at least the government and World Economic Forum can monitor and control all your car movements and with a Tesla they film and record you constantly

Agreed. Gary needs to include about £80 in hire charges to the cost of the journey, 4 days hire?

For one , most of the problems Lee had were self inflicted. Also Gary has already said he's not racing them , he's proving it's not as stressful as Lee likes to make out (but of course Lee needs the clicks to generate income to pay for his car maybe.? ). You can criticize for using a hire car , but Gary's usual drive is Renault Zoe which although it's a great car , it is an old model now and not ideal for a marathon trip like this. As Lee likes to point out regularly how expensive his top of the range Porche is , it's not exactly a fair comparison to a second hand Zoe , costing about £12k...

@@rico4229 You could say that Lee's car is an old model now as well as it was 2021 when Lee got His EV so the rental thing is no excuse so and the rental price should apply to the end total.

@@theuninivitedguest yes of course , that should be added on to the journey costs. I think all Gary was out to prove was that this journey doesn't have to be as stressful as Lee made it out to be.

Why didn’t you show percentages and times before and after charging? Cost and mileage travelled.

Absolutely right, the difference then gets mixed up if the drivers choose to include reasonable breaks which can also be used as charging stops to minimise the charging impact. That was not done at all by Lee so yep, he was going to lose before even starting. Let me offer an example of a real trip of mine yesterday. Depart Brugges heading for East Midlands. Left Brugges to arrive Calais with 32% charge remaining, plugged into the supercharger and went into the duty free shop. Came out of the duty free shop, unplugged and headed for the Flexiplus lounge to wait for the train. Plugged into the supercharger at the lounge and had breakfast. Departed there and hopped on the train and from Folkstone to home stopped twice more but only for loo breaks (I had three other passengers with me). No drama no fuss and no "lost" time due to charging. An ICE trip would have been exactly the same in that instance. However, if I wanted to drive non stop for 10 hours then i'd have to suffer my diesel but while there are people who want to do that, they're welcome to do that, it's not something that i'm particularly inclined to do. Lets do another "race", each car drives 200 miles and returns home every day where the EV charges at home. Do that for a year and compare both time spent in terms of impact to the drivers in "filling up" and then compare costs for that 73,000 miles. Of course we don't actually need anyone to do this, we can estimate pretty accurately and the results would absolutely brutally destroy any ICE car, it has no hope whatsoever of beating the EV under that condition and lets face it, being able to drive 200 miles every day is also as unrealistic as needing to do JOGLE under "get there first" conditions. It's good for RU-vid entertainment though. :)

@@djtaylorutube i think EV's make more sense in short journeys and ICE makes more sense in long journeys. Most people do only one or two long journeys each year. Maybe buy an EV for day to day use and hire an ICE for vacations. Best of both worlds.

@@stuartsmith5308 That was exactly the option when we had a Nissan Leaf on a 2 year lease back in 2015/2017. You could have a free ICE hire include for a number of days (I forget how much) but that seemed like a good plan. We never used it as the Leaf was an experiment car and at only £125 a month we figured it would be good to tootle around the city for the school run and all similar related stuff, the cost just equaling what would have otherwise been spent on diesel. Long range with the Leaf and public charging? not a chance, never dared! That said, we now always take the EV (Tesla) on long trips because it just works and leave our diesel and petrols at home to do the local stuff if we're not using the EV for that too. Plenty of space for all choices for everyone at the moment, it's certainly going to be an interesting decade or two!

If the driver chooses to neglect taking proper breaks.

I do Sydney-Melbourne-Sydney (1200 miles) it's quicker in my EV than ICE car - I stop 2 times each way (late breakfast / early dinner), Instead of having to fill, pay, then find a place to park, then go in to eat and use the bathroom I simply rock up, plug in and go inside - I have plenty enough charge to continue each time. When I had my ICE car I stopped at the same locations. 1 stop over a 10.5 to 11 hour drive is unreasonable.

​@@TB-up4xi Don't start coming in with actual real world experience! They won't like that at all! 😁👍

@@TB-up4xi I make a similar point a lot - you have to add a fuel stop time to the trip if not in an EV...

Yep, the costs I’ll cover in a dedicated video - it’ll surprise some and very much not others I think.

Hertz pulling back on EV fleet due to poor costs i.e. poor residuals of car and cost and damage compared to ICE equivalents.

ask how much the charging cost.....

Hertz in sweden for a polestar is £200, but I saw on Hertz homepage in uk that all cars where very cheap. Wierd its so big difference. In sweden it was no mileage limit. Edit : I tried the Polestar in UK for a month, and suddenly it was 842 GBP, which is more expensive than if you rent it day by day instead for a month .. :D :D

Hertz are getting rid of its Tesla fleet not its Polestar fleet, Tesla can't repair their cars in a timely or cost effective manner and they get written off for damage that other EV manufacturers can repair. However insurance prices for all evs have gone up by 69% on average but ICE insurance has gone up 32%. Insurance companies state it is because of the high cost of repairs and increased damage if the vehicle is involved in an accident.

They don't generally have fuel pumps either to be fair.

@@imbethondion4572 They get funny if I stop at a petrol station for a smoke...dunno why...oh well

Thank you

There wasn’t very much detail because it was very straightforward 🤷‍♂️ you can bang on about how you want to not stop and piss in a bottle all you want, that’s fine - stick to diesel if you want that.

I have to ask what would be enjoyable about doing 8 hours of driving non-stop?

Climate was on and set to 22 most of the time but sometimes higher plus use of heated seats.

12k miles in 7 months is hardly low, it’s one of the highest mileage rental cars I’ve ever been given by a proper firm (ie not Enterprise). Having said that, the comments on this video alone shows why a lot of people won’t bother renting one.

Aye I’m not sure why I was surprised really 😅 the wind was absolutely mental though

The issue I had with the E.On Drive app wasn’t *that* bad but I do agree. It shows what happens when you let companies do whatever the hell they want for ages without proper regulation.

The government has just passed a law that all new charger installations must have chip-n-pin payment and existing chargers by next year, so apps will no longer be required.

Hertz. Seems to be primarily airports they have them at.

😂😂

Wouldn’t have been done without stopping for a break though unless you’re mental.

This is almost always the case for a modern EV. Really wish more people understood this. Obviously there will be diesel warriors who claim they drive 600 miles without stopping, but this is a very vocal, very tiny minority, if they're even being truthful (when not filming RU-vid videos bashing electric vehicles..)

@@HoltAlex yep, I will most likely be making the trip up again in my ZS ev which isn't the fastest for charging but think on a clear run I could do it in 9hrs. As you say, does this tiny majority really need to drive 600-800 miles non stop in a day? They often claim to need this but why? What do they do? No job has you driving a car for that long without stopping (with the exception of taxi airport runs etc.) as frankly what is your employer paying you to do? Most will likely will fill their car up once a month which will last them for all their travelling. That's how I did it to avoid going back to the petrol station every other day. It's just a mindset change that it's very rare most people do more than 100 miles in a typical day.

Yeah I’m yet to use a Fastned site - hopefully get the chance to soon enough!

The Fastned site looks nice but it's too near home for me to be likely to use it. I believe it even has canopies! As for CPS, what bugs me is their £40 instant overstay fee at the DESTINATION CHARGERS in the Glasgow car parks. Never full, so it's not to keep the punters circulating. So that rules out a pre-theatre dinner unless I want to go back to the car park in the interval and unplug the car. (Not much point in actually moving it, nobody else is going to want the charger.) I emailed them to explain this might not be the best policy, and was told to take it up with Glasgow City Council. So I did, and got a very rude reply back from them. Lovely people.

In the cold driving quickly/normally I think it’s a pretty big stretch to suggest it could do it with one charging stop.

Most people try to keep their road-tripping state of charge in the 20% to 80% area. Going over 80% charging rate slows right down, and going under 20% can be an issue if there's a diversion etc. Essentially it's doable with one stop but why would you? If you want to see how well that sort of planning invariably works watch a Macmaster video. (Find slowest possible, most expensive charger, aim to arrive on fumes and always charge to 100% - works "brilliantly" if your aim is number of RU-vid views and "interaction" in the comments - not so great for distance covered/time) Best first stop for charging speed/cost from JoG is therefore either Tesla at Inverness or Aviemore. Both open to all vehicles but are only V2 150kW superchargers which share power between pairs of stalls, so not fast if busy (but Tesla at 75kW still faster and cheaper than all the single 50kW units around those areas). Think Ionity in Perth might have made more sense time wise for reducing number of stops but possibly a bit of a gamble until you get used to the range of the car. Way more expensive than charging at Tesla unless you have new car discount from vehicle manufacturer. As a Tesla driver I'd probably do JoG to Perth, and then aim for Tebay. Possible quick 5 minute top-ups at Aviemore and Eurocentral if car estimates it's needed to stay above 20% state of charge (Abington is currently closed - it's my normal "quick top up for Tebay" coming from Perth) Perth, Abington, Gretna, Tebay superchargers are not yet open to non Tesla but those services have all installed, or are in the process of installing, other rapid chargers.

That’s not devils advocate that’s just stupid 🤷‍♂️ I stopped twice, counting the destination charging overnight as a stop is ridiculous and it was my choice to start a second session in Stirling (because it was cheap and we weren’t ready to get going yet) The Tesla charger not running at full tilt is a fair thing to criticise, I do agree with that.

@@ModernHeroes I understand why you did it. It is more a reflection on the lower powered chargers (and you are travelling from remote areas in the Highlands of scotland I do get that there are slow charging infra there. England has good fast infra in the UK now but not Scotland, Wales (a little better) and don't even talk about Northern Ireland). But you did use 4 chargers and got 75 (at a full location on these older V2s (if you park next to the car charging you will 75 each in a pair)), 50, 50 and 11. Sure you had to stay overnight at a destination chargers are a key to the future and the correct thing to do.

Playing DA here, a journey was started and a destination was reached. Food and fun (and traffic) was had along the way. I see no problem here especially given the electricity was probably from wind power. Imagine if cars had deployable sails.

The overnight destination charging is a huge advantage of an EV though, no standing by a fuel pump.

@@Lewis_Standing I bet i could fill my tank by the time it takes him to get connected and charging.

There will be a “review after 1700 miles” type video coming fairly shortly - I like it on the whole, and that sounds like a bargain.

The Tesla app shows which chargers are open to non-Tesla. You use the app to start the charger and pay.

​@@ModernHeroes Mmmmmm... Technology!

I’ve since found out they also rent them to Uber drivers with private hire insurance included for £269/week - sounds like a lot but PH insurance is expensive as hell. Makes me wonder if they took on loads for that and haven’t had the demand they expected.

​@@ModernHeroes I believe that is a big part of the problem. Hertz Global had signed up to buying many EVs for their fleet. Many markets did not see the take up expected and have had to back out of agreements for orders, costing them money. Many renters, often holiday makers, both often unaware of the logistics of EV use and being in a foreign country, had terrible experiences. These stories spread and it kind of sours people. Stick to what you know and you have confidence in, for right or wrong. The other issue, EVs have taken a hit in the second hand market, supposedly. This really knocked Herz's plans quite badly. They have a fleet of vehicles that aren't earning and that are depreciating faster than expected when they come to offload them. As a result, you now see Hertz trying everything they can to reduce the loses. Not sure if they are actual or predicted loses, can't trust any sources these days. The other thing I wasn't certain about was what markets Hertz Global were having this problem in. The US, for example, is understandable, that is a market with many people who refuse to entertain EVs, never mind just mere sceptics. But some European (not our beloved Scotland or the whole of the UK for that matter) are quite well geared up for supporting EVs and you'd imagine people would fare better there.

Register an account on the app and add payment card Plug in to charger Select the right stall number and start charge That’s all there was to it for me, charged at both Inverness (on the way to JoG) and Aviemore without issue.

I charged at the Tesla superchargers at Eurocentral last week, and had no trouble at all, the charge started within seconds. That was just with having downloaded the app and linking my bank card a couple of months earlier. (The app hung after about five minutes but the car went right on charging.)

Worrying that their EV choices are being so heavily discounted.

@@davidpearn5925 they will charge you the earth if you scratch it

You do realize that not everywhere renting a car is a viable option economically? I own my family car - which is a big family car, because I have a family. It is a multi-purpose car, not just for roundabout home-work-shop, and if I am to rent a car, in a year I am spending LITERALLY 20% of the value of my car (we a re a travelling family). What is the point of having a car, but spending on top of that? This test is already not comparable, because whole point of McMaster's/Geoff's video was to do the trip with daily driver. If Gary rents another car - which is bigger and with bigger range than his own, it just from the start will make it non-relatable for really massive number of people. What's worse, it will definitely increase negative sentiments towards EVs, because apparently you need two cars in your household... If not three. Maybe Swedes and Norwegians can do it (they are rich, so they can afford buying a Tesla in addition to their Volvo X-series which is for winter), but not many other countries qualify.

@@gmaacentralfounder That's great if you have a car that suits you and your families needs. I'm talking about people that very rarely drive long distances (which I'd assume is the majority). Spending a few thousand on a second-hand Leaf/Zoe/i3 etc. and then renting a larger EV for the rare long journeys may, for some people, make more financial sense than spending a fortune on a big battery EV. Obviously Gary could have done the journey in his Zoe but, as he said, it's not ideal for this sort of journey. And didn't McMaster do it in a Taycan? That as a daily driver is hardly comparable to most people's situations. I've done Land's End to John O'Groats twice (in an e-Niro and IONIQ 5) by the way, and it looks like Gary found it easier than I did, which is encouraging as it shows things are improving with infrastructure.

@@MrEV The point I made was this: I have only one car. Which is not ideal for some uses and great for some, less often utilized. I can't afford two cars in my family, at least not for a while now. Another point, not made earlier is that actually, the current car is not suited anymore. Things change, circumstances too, and while 3 years ago a small city EV as a second one would not only be feasible, it would be a great idea. Not so now. And that's the point I made: EVs are, for the most part, either town car - like Gary's Zoe, or SECOND car. That's why I brought up Scandinavia - there EVs are usually a second car, next to winterized diesels. Not everyone is as rich as Scandinavians. As for the trip - UK is also a rich country. Where I live now, there are serious issues with EV charging stations - EU requires them on every existing petrol station. It's easy in cities, where you just apply for a permission for a high voltage, high power electricity connection, but on motorways, for example, existing stations will start to shut down soon, because installing chargers on a Service station on a motorway 20 miles from any bigger town with electric grid suitable for a megawatt-connection has been priced in mutliple millions. An investment which will NOT give a return on 20-year lease WITHOUT drastic prices increase. Not 5% difference, but at least double... Second thing is that this country's power grid will not be able to survive a hundred such stations added on such artificially short timeframe, because there is barely enough power already.

In all honesty, why should the taxpayer fund EV purchase price? All that happens is that the list price goes up by that amount. It's a free bung from government to profit making companies. On paper, looks great "less government grant" but given a choice of fixing all the shit that the UK now has due to a moron enabled, criminally corrupt government, I'd rather not spend it on helping someone buy a brand new car!

@@djtaylorutube that's your opinion . Thank you for taking the time to share it.

The govt is helping people buy EVs. 0% and now 1% or 2% Benefit in Kind tax on company car EVs and salary sacrifice schemes. Saves well paid people driving £30,000-£100,000+ cars hundreds of pounds a month in tax. Then the company can put the £30,00-£100,000 against their profits and pay less corporation tax. The EV also doesn't pay any VED or 'luxury car tax' costing the taxpayer many £1000s in lost tax.

@@cliveprocter3698 thank you for your feedback. I would like to think people that buy cars for personal use. Would get some discount. As the main problem with new cars are ev is far to expensive to buy and run unless you can charge at home normal price cars are to high Pricing everyone out the market unless u get it on a lease deal. If the ice cars are getting priced off the road, clean air zones, car tax. And the car industry is pushing for clean air zone emissions. The average person should get help in getting the clean cars. New tela £50000. astra new £18,000. Why would you pay extra to get a clean car? Its the bigger picture of getting to net zero. Yes u don't pay car tax at the moment. Next year you will. Public chargers are 85p pet kw. Battery in ev say 64kw that's £54.40 for 200 miles. A ice car would cost u £14 for same miles. You have to give the public a hand to help them get a zone emissions car. Otherwise no will buy them. Remember diesel scrapage scheme. Tax payers help fun that. Truth of the matter is to help keep up with the ever changing world and its rules. U must give a little then take it back later. Via tax on electric 20% at public charging point. That the government get now. Then tax on ev. Coming in .

​@@Scott-lt8qtNew Tesla is not £50k, it's £39k. What I don't understand here is the request for a government hand out to buy a new car when a new car can't be afforded anyway. ICE or EV. Buy a second hand one, no VAT, depreciation currently high. Tesla energy is half of that 85p you mentioned but that's not to say "just get a Tesla" because I agree the other networks are stupidly priced. All I usually read is "Problems with EV - too expensive" usually alongside "Problem with EV's is second hand EV prices falling rapidly". I'm confused! It's the same as "man in the street" (apparently) seeing Sunak as some hero by pushing back the date for the ban on the sale of new ICE by 5 years. Same "man in the street" apparently can't afford a new car anyway so would never have bought one new in 2030 and is therefore unaffected. Same "man in the street" probably doesn't realise it makes no difference as days later, Sunak signed up to the ZEV mandate, fixing the original quota of new sales to be EV. Manufacturers still on the original plan and won't "hurrah" and flip production lines back to ICE for an extended 5 years, they can't afford to.

Where did I “hunt” for anything ? The chargers were where they were supposed to be 🤷‍♂️

@@ModernHeroesmiles off route 👍

I've had loads of cars with more than 390 miles of range! But "in one go". With no traffic its 7 hours 17. Add on mental traffic on the A9 and havijng to get off the M80 and M74 and itw what - 8 hours plus? You really want to do that non-stop?

@@justgetatesla Yes - because I am not a Millennial.

@@JamesSmith-qs4hx Do you have a catheter and a bag?

@@imbethondion4572 Catheter.... Sounds like the latest model of EV🤨🤨🤨

Are those units at the premier inn energised? They didn’t look like they were but I wasn’t really paying attention to them

@@ModernHeroes they weren’t last week when I drove past. I used to use that CPS a lot until the fees were applied, now it’s cheaper to charge my Mini Cooper SE at home

I stopped at the castle hub at sturling, and went on the 7kw as i was going into town. free bus, free parking got almost 16 units costing under £4. it was nothing i cared about. but it was cheap per a unit. could have easy wnt on the 50kw been done in under 25 minute and paid more but did not have to.

Don’t buy an EV then 🤷‍♂️ and definitely not a Corsa (you’d not want a petrol Corsa if you do loads of miles either surely unless you’re some kind of masochist)

That’s the reason I’m not buying an EV There just too expensive. I just gave the corsa as an example.

Don't forget the additional cost of depreciation of the EV version over ICE version.

Yes

I’ve done 70+ supercharger stops in all traffic and holiday conditions and I’ve still never had to queue to charge

You don’t *need* to rent a car, you can buy one. HTH.

I am surprised you can be bothered to fire up youtube

@@ModernHeroes 😀 I have one already. Skoda kamiq 2022. I'm using it for every trip. Maybe if the next gen ev are better I may consider replacing it with an ev. 😀

@@dantebg100 I have a 2023 Tesla model 3 - I flew from Sydney to Perth (2000+ miles) and rented an "intermediate" class car from Avis for a week - it turned out to be a 2023 Toyota Corolla Sedan - I hated every minute in that noisy, underpowered, wheezy shi*box and could not wait to get back to driving my EV.

@@TB-up4xi well .. Tesla is 50 000 euro and my Skoda and Corolla are 20 000 EUR.

Hamilton is closer to Penrith than Stirling. HTH. Yeah manufacturers are giving loads of money to channels with 9k subs 😂

@@ModernHeroes calm down son... 9k subs 🤣🤣🤣😛

but I once did 500 miles in a Fiat Panda so everyone should!!!!11

This has been done to death - power loss when sat in traffic is minimal.

@@ModernHeroes In the winter?

@@scoobyflewyes. In the winter. What happens if you are stuck in traffic with low fuel? Remember the M11 incident a few years back where a load of people got snowed in and ran out of fuel?

It doesn't work like that Jimbo. If you are tooling along at 70mph in your ev with 20 miles range left showing, then have to crawl along at 5mph in traffic, your indicated range will probably go up, not down.

You do know ICE cards can run out of petrol/diesel as well don't you? Also, do you think EVs just explode into flames when the battery runs out? EVs have their own set of issues, but this nonsense about fire is just plain wrong. You just keep reading The Sun and Daily Mail for your intel.

That last sentence is exactly the bit the “omg they’ll tax it you know!!!!11” people don’t seem to understand.

Yeah I really need to do a video about the stupidity of this and how wildly it varies

Covered this in this video 🤷‍♂️

There were loads of them in this particular car park so there wasn’t a capacity issue - but yes, this is likely the reasoning for sites with fewer units.

I think you misunderstood - I don't think he was at a rapid charger for that one. You go to a council car park, to go shopping and stuff. He wanted to have a meal. It is not helpful to have a 40 minute time limit for that on a slow charger. I've done grocery shops that took longer than 40 minutes.

Late lunch, thanks to the traffic.