Driving the 2022 GR86 - A worthy sequel? - Fan vs Skeptic | Everyday Driver

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The 2022 Toyota GR86 is our most anticipated car of the year and a sequel to a first generation 86 which we've owned, covered in a series of videos, and often discussed on our podcast. Our guys remain split on the car - can the second generation make fans of them both?
00:00 - 2:04 Intro
2:40 - 3:56 New Engine, New Power
3:56 - 6:40 On Track Performance
6:40 - 9:06 Steering and Chassis Changes
9:06 - 10:06 Automatic vs Manual
10:06 - 12:24 New Interior
12:24 - 14:03 New Styling
14:03 - 15:42 The Skeptic Drives
15:42 - 17:34 Piped In Noise
17:34 - 18:27 Heavier, Still Light
18:27 - Conclusions
#GR86 #2022 #Toyota
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@mattdirks7896 3 года назад

Well, the CEO of Toyota just pushed to make a better sportscar. We'd better buy some or else we never get one like it again.

@staLkerhu 2 года назад

Im in, but still lack the money :/

@andrewblewski7926 2 года назад

This is a tough next few years. I want to buy this, because I want Toyota to know it is wanted. But I also want Nissan to know the new Z is wanted. I can't afford both 😂

@exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад

Ya better take what you have and stick it in gold, silver, and crypto before the international banksters steal it all.

@andrewm5840 2 года назад

Dido

@CapFlipGaming 2 года назад

@@mikea5205 I'm moving to Phoenix from Indiana in a couple months. I'm liking the RF Miata, but on the fence between that and this 86. Is it too hot to drive the Miata every day?

@117johnpar 3 года назад

Today is official GR86 day. I've probably watched 3 hours just today of the same opinion and breakdown.

@PBrooksSawyer 2 года назад

You planning to get one? I'm looking to get one november/December

@craigjacquesaujero3195 2 года назад

I thought august 6 was 86 day? coz 08/06? lol

@vision1707 2 года назад

Me too...lmbo.

@AB0BA_69 2 года назад

I mean, when something is good it's just good! I wanted to get a Miata RF, but since I don't care much about the convertible part the 86 looks like the drive for me.

@normanparthiban4383 2 года назад

The journalists are doing an insane job with the hype. I’ve just graduated college one year ago and have waited to buy a car. I complain about sports cars dying so I may have to put my money where my mouth is

@HigeYatsu 3 года назад

Takeaway: The new GR86 made Paul and Todd feel a dramatic stiffness increase.

@toddsmith8608 2 года назад

Am I the only one annoyed they talked over each other the whole time?

@AB0BA_69 2 года назад

@@toddsmith8608 It was a bit harder to follow. They had more of a "banter" than a scripted approach. But to be honest, the 86 has been under such a microscope that no one is going to say anything revolutionary unless they're intending to be a contrarian. Aka: "it's amazing with several flaws that prevent it from achieving complete greatness because they had to fit it under in a strict budget"

@350z33hr 2 года назад

They're really trying hard to sell this car to "enthusiasts"

@yowadup1000 2 года назад

This comment is underrated af 😂😂

@toddsmith8608 2 года назад

@@AB0BA_69 I don't mind the banter or whether their comments were positive or negative. If I want to hear two people talking over each other I can watch the news or a political debate. It makes the content less enjoyable to watch... for me at least. I normally enjoy this channel.

@Mgoblagulkablong 3 года назад

How well this sells will decide the future availability of affordable sports cars.

@PHFilms3 3 года назад

We know it won’t sell well…. Let’s just be happy Toyota made something here

@eVerProductions1 3 года назад

Might actually be my first new car, I’m a Scotty Kilmer kinda guy and penny pinch but to support fun sports car with a stick to live on I’ll do it

@chorseundgrd 2 года назад

The future of affordable sports cars is electric so I don't think so.

@bassandtrebleclef 2 года назад

@@chorseundgrd What electric sports car is available? And of those, which ones are affordable?

@chorseundgrd 2 года назад

@@bassandtrebleclef I used the word "future" for a reason. I think this is the last crop of ICE sports cars we're going to see. The next generation of these will be electric 6-8 years from now. That is the "future" where advancements in battery tech will make these "affordable". I don't even like electric cars but the writing is on the wall.

@travistouchdown1812 2 года назад

Thank you Mazda, Subaru, Toyota for delivering the light weight, rear wheel drive, affordable sports car in 2020 + This car has such beautiful and simple styling inside and out.

@squirreldog1596 3 года назад

Hands down one of the best looking cars you can buy. Such a simple look, but the proportionality is perfect

@effa114 2 года назад

Really does have a classic look. So glad they went simpler and not fussier

@Damienn1776 2 года назад

@@effa114 the torque dip and the looks of the gen 1 of the renewed 86 really just couldn't be for me but this... This is perfection now

@JeremyHartson2000 2 года назад

Put this up against the current Civic and the Civic looks like it’s from an alien universe.

@Schlock3000 2 года назад

@JeremyHartson2000 And will leave the Toyota in the dust

@JoshuaTootell 2 года назад

I do think they did a good styling job.

@tashriquekarriem8865 2 года назад

I've been driving a prius for most of my driving life I just got a good deal on a 1st Gen 86 and it feels like a rocket to me. My point being its all relative if you driving fast cars every other week/month its going to feel slow but to a guy like me its fast.

@michaelgomez4994 2 года назад

not true. because in reality your still going slowly no matter how it “feels”

@JorgeElCuh 2 года назад

@@michaelgomez4994 "point being its all relative"

@michaelgomez4994 2 года назад

@@JorgeElCuh no it’s not slow is slow

@jastation321 2 года назад

@@michaelgomez4994 What he’s saying is that it may be “slow” but it does not feel slow. Not hard to understand

@michaelgomez4994 2 года назад

@@jastation321 i disagree.. what’s hard to understand

@JohnFromAccounting 3 года назад

One of the best early breakdowns of this car. All the little bugbears with the old car are gone. It's not revolutionary, it's evolutionary. I feel that if they made dramatic changes, there would be just as many flaws as with the Mk1.

@Dampachi100 2 года назад

Am I the only one who miss analog gauges? I like seeing a physical needle spin.

@bhearing7681 3 года назад

The intro had me laughing. I've never been so excited to see a embargo lift on a new car and hope to buy one in the future to replace my FRS

@wcrowe75 3 года назад

I just couldn't get over the lack of power in the old one when I test drove it. I can't wait to give this one a test drive!

@massterwushu9699 3 года назад

Just buy a Mustang GT. This car isn’t for someone looking for lots of power.

@emirramos990 2 года назад

@@massterwushu9699 The Mustang GT cost quite a bit more than this car. It would have to be the eco boost 4 cylinder mustang to be a closer comparison.

@massterwushu9699 2 года назад

@@emirramos990 yeah, but the people asking for more power are missing the entire point of this car. They only care about hp and burnouts. I’m sure he could find a used GT for under $30k.

@kerm281 2 года назад

Get a Tesla if you want speed. I think tats what you’re looking for.

@wcrowe75 2 года назад

Yall are wild lol. I just want to test drive it to see if it feels quick enough. I've got a list of over 20 cars to test drive next summer before I pick the next one, and the Mustang GT has no place on it. (The gt350 does, however).

@rayloray8895 3 года назад

I have never woken up early to watch car reviews on the day the embargo lifts. As a current 2018 BRZ owner, the temptation is very very strong

@booyashaka3182 3 года назад

I'm split between getting one of these or an older Cayman

@kc510 3 года назад

@@booyashaka3182 same!

@rayloray8895 3 года назад

@@booyashaka3182 I test drove both a 986 and 987 boxster. Sorry Paul, even the first gen BRZ is better (at least better than the non-S). The Porsche has weirdly tall gearing and a vague shifter that made street driving not fun to me. Great smooth revving flat 6 though!

@booyashaka3182 3 года назад

@@rayloray8895 damn, that says alot haha

@kieljiro4981 3 года назад

Don’t do it lol

@Izzys_Autos 3 года назад

“Your skiing on Blues”. Absolutely love that analogy

@thirdpedalnirvana 3 года назад

Timestamp? I missed that analogy. Side note, we need a park city EDD ski meet up!

@niclash4534 3 года назад

I love how you're both so euphoric about the car. :D Now I love my GT86 even more.

@ayb2522 3 года назад

“You look at the steering wheel and that’s a thing.” - Everyday Driver

@lepepus 2 года назад

Haha... not sure what that was all about!! 😆

@dielaughing73 2 года назад

@@lepepus no clue either. It's got vents, controls, a screen and a steering wheel is my takeaway

@1avro 2 года назад

I think they just meant that the interior doesn’t flow. Every part of it just looks like it’s own thing. Not like this thing that was super intricately designed to look a certain way.

@JeremyHartson2000 2 года назад

Non-driver-centric are the real take-aways.

@undrgrnd734 2 года назад

that whole bit when paul was talking. I'm trying to grasp my head around what the heck was he saying. Words are flowing out and it's english but what tf does he mean by that

@mrendall90 3 месяца назад

I just bought of one these last night, in no small part thanks to you guys. Thanks for your excitement for this car. I couldn't be happier with mine.

@michaelc.seeley4850 2 года назад

Taillights look like new NSX. This is a good thing.

@Bmontepeque11 2 года назад

The 86 as never called like that because of the bore and stroke, it's called like that because it's the new version of the AE86, the 86mm bore and stroke is just a nice accidental easter egg 🧐

@alexeyprasolov870 2 года назад

Was waiting for it! I always get a great kinda old school automotive feeling from your reviews

@fredericgsr 3 года назад

Thanks for this interesting test as usual. Here in Bordeaux in France I can't wait to try it.

@Vashed555 3 года назад

Todd and Paul driving while surrounded by greenery creeps me out.

@JP4drumsFarrell 3 года назад

Welcome to Upstate NY. Some of the best driving roads!

@billcatalano2683 3 года назад

@@JP4drumsFarrell and with the most ambitious group of State Troopers and County Sheriff’s! Another Upstater.

@papatorr3669 3 года назад

Don't be a creep, these are a couple of cool cats!

@mardamek 2 года назад

"Skiing on blues" lol that was a great comparison but also very spot on because these cars (affordable, sporty cars) are meant for that. Not everything is about going 10/10th and being at the edge. Sometimes driving not so fast can be just as pleasurable as getting the adrenaline rush from driving on the edge.

@thirdpedalnirvana 3 года назад

The green Drifting 911 in the intro always makes me happy

@JeremyHartson2000 2 года назад

Love you guys more with each episode. The Tube, the podcast... all valuable takes on what makes a car great. Just concluded a podcast where you discussed low-powered sports cars vs high-powered trucks and it was bang on. Bravo and keep it up!

@EverydayDriver 2 года назад

Glad to have you with us and enjoying what we do. Thanks for watching!

@DirtydogMech 2 года назад

Manual lever parking brake?? 👌👏👍 I'd buy it just because of that reason. Glad they didn't go to electric parking button

@FOXDADDYSUPREME1 3 года назад

I sold my BRZ for a 986S about a year ago. I really liked it with the header and tune, but ultimately just wanted a change. I think this is enough to get me back into one. I'll just wait until they're out for a year or so and see what colors they come in.

@tcoffin014 3 года назад

I went from a 2018 PP BRZ to a base 987.2 Cayman. I don't think I can go back as much I like the new 86. There's something about the Porsche that just feels right that I never felt with the BRZ even though I loved the BRZ too

@effa114 2 года назад

Very curious about this versus a 987 cayman or cayman S.

@lepepus 2 года назад

@@effa114 you cannot compare this to a 987 gen Porsche. The Porsche is just on a different level. Not to knock this car, but this car is more along the lines of a Miata.

@Azulevo 2 года назад

Both this and 987 are about same $. But in 5 years…… 987 might go up in $, this will drop in half. I like this car, but financially, 987 is smarter purchase. Still, this modern bells and whistles car is very attractive.

@stms4411 2 года назад

I have a 2017 brz and a 981 boxster s. You can totally compare them. Obviously an extra $40k (when both were new) affords a lot of things for Porsche……but they are spiritually similar cars. What I really enjoy is going back and forth between them so I can experience the difference in engineering approach. There’s about 150lbs difference between them and the germaness of the boxster feels staid and solid……the Japanese essence of the brz makes it flingable. I love them both without feeling the need to praise Porsche by shitting on other cars

@sc3639 3 года назад

Yes! I have waited a long time for this one.

@DanielHouckThe6thDanHouck 3 года назад

My favorite part of both the old and the new 86 is the simplicity and lightweight design. I would love $$$$$ to see a even lighter sport plus edition.

@aygwm 3 года назад

Be happy that it exists, period!

@acchaladka 3 года назад

Yeah the fuel economy here is killing me. Still, I'd buy one if i didn't have my mind on an mx-5 next.

@toddsmith8608 2 года назад

Daniel Houck: buy one and remove carpet, sound deadening, stereo, ac, etc.

@bernatmorrosporta4497 3 года назад

I was really waiting for this!!!

@coldvaper 2 года назад

I’m glad at their age they are still able to feel that stiffness.

@randoman75 2 года назад

I drove one of these back to back with my paid off 2013 BRZ. It's really nice. The interior is much more modern. I think my car looks much, much better. The new one looks bloated and jelly beaned. I don't think it's a bad looking car, but I don't think I'd feel the same glow spotting it in a parking lot as I do my WRB BRZ. The power is noticeable... but my 15 6mt accord 2.4 had significantly more low end grunt. The difference feels more subtle than the dyno charts suggest, but the car dealer sitting shotgun kept making scared noises and traffic was bad so I never really got to rev it out. Ultimately I got back in my car and I think I like it better... it just feels slightly more raw and special. It's a keeper. I'll never sell it. The new car is awesome, but I think it's missing a bit something. I think I'll get a positive displacement supercharger. It won't have a warranty but I'll have at least $15k left over rather than buying a new one. The twins are awesome. Try one!

@thisgame2 2 года назад

Oh shit. Been waiting for this. It's perfect now

@Blackthump 2 года назад

There is an option for sure to turn off the piped in sound via software. I own a GR Yaris an my dealer turned off the artificial sound via the OBD interface.

@jbalgo 2 года назад

You can also buy the official pipe piece from japanparts. They come in different colours, so you can chose the level of sound in your cabin.

@jerryc6497 3 года назад

Great review guys! And liking the Tudor GMT Paul. I got one recently myself :)

@jonboy602 3 года назад

The stereo engine sound reminds me of gran turismo - gran turismo 1. the nostalgia is strong. :D

@jehl1963 2 года назад

Thank-you guys! You made a video from the GR86 release which doesn't look like everyone else's video from the GR86 receipt!

@EverydayDriver 2 года назад

Thank you. That’s always our intention. Glad to have you watching!

@robsx4280 3 года назад

Great video as usual guys. Have my name down for one of these to join my MR2.

@swift9417 3 года назад

Damn I can`t wait to test drive this here in Europe! Luckily we get the 86 here after all.

@progste 3 года назад

Yes, we get the 86 but not the brz

@jbalgo 2 года назад

Mid 2022.

@cy9nvs 3 года назад

I need one. In dark blue, premium and manual, please Toyota don't screw up the price in germany.

@jaxonstechchannel8286 3 года назад

So sieht's aus ! Toyota Marketing macht keinen Mist jetzt.

@GTE_Channel 2 года назад

In Holland these are >55k euros.... insane. A GR Yaris is cheaper, by a few thousand

@cy9nvs 2 года назад

@@GTE_Channel the gt86 started at like 28.000€ in Germany

@cy9nvs 2 года назад

@@hashimrahman51 I think he confuses this with the supra. The GR 86 isn't out and the gt86 was like 26.000€.

@user-qq2mo1ek2r 2 года назад

The window/door seal on the driver side behind the driver is doing my nut in.... Aside from that this car is a huge improvement over the first gen car. Great looking car, nicely evolved and loving the duck tail. Well done Toyota.

@tag22061 2 года назад

Great review guys, also, Paul, nice Tudor Pepsi btw!

@KC-lg8qf 3 года назад

Great looking car. Well done on the new model.

@ericp8852 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, good work.

@t.k.morris 2 года назад

Last suggestion but very important... Dealers tend to stock automatics because more people will buy them. Not everyone wants one, but even I have caved before, only to regret it, buying an automatic because it was in stock when I wanted a manual. Toyota and all manufacturers should give the dealers a manual transmission on consignment. That way the dealer doesn't pay for it until it sells. But you can't sell manuals if they are not in stock and all dealers should have at least one manual in stock at all times.

@t.k.morris 2 года назад

@@hashimrahman51 I understand your comment but most people would want to test drive the car before making the decision to get it without testing it first. When I was younger I even bought a new car without a test drive because it was like my fourth Honda Accord so I didn't feel the need to drive it. It turned out fine, but I would not suggest anyone make the purchase before driving it down the road first. And in today's Covid market, I am not sure how dealers feel about trading cars to sale.

@pininfarina575 3 года назад

How would you compare the power (how it feels at least) to a 1st gen 86 / BRZ with header + tune? or more?

@norm2655 2 года назад

Great review guys.

@Chewygsxr 2 года назад

Good review, nice to know I can corral one of those in the Twistys in my 14 Fiesta ST on stage two Cobb with sticky Michelin tires, I remember how the ST put such a awesome smile on your faces when you drove it. The Fiesta Flash 🤙🏼🍺🍺🍺

@JakeRogue 3 года назад

Just FYI the 86x86mm bore and stroke of the previous car was a coincidence. The chassis designation of the AE86 is where it came from, so the new engine has nothing to do with the name accuracy.

@acchaladka 3 года назад

Have to agree with Todd that the first gen looked more original and i like it better but that ducktail spoiler really sells it for me. It's a mini Supra look and silly, I'm in. Now, this or an mx-5...

@andreemilsen369 2 года назад

Thanks guys 😊 I really love this car 😊

@1013VS 2 года назад

one of the few reviews on RU-vid that count

@bliglum 2 года назад

So, in a nutshell, it's got at least a bit more power, with the same fun tossable nature... That's a win!

@travistouchdown1812 2 года назад

The interior is very clean and simple. I love it!

@kkkkimbg 2 года назад

that remind me lotus elise

@jorgnyoa3561 3 года назад

I love the fact that they removed the tourqe dip. But i just feel like the 1st gen design (both interior and exterior) looks way better

@JS-hw8ve 3 года назад

Agree. Drop the '22's engine into an older model and then pop champagne.

@omargarsh2663 2 года назад

I'm just not feeling that ducktail spoiler. The front end doesn't do much for me, either. I thought they could have made the first gen a little better looking when it came out. Now I think it looks a lot better than this new one.

@JS-hw8ve 2 года назад

@@omargarsh2663 It looks kinda nondescript. Not like a car itself, but like parts of other cars mashed together. From the back it looks a little like a Supra. From the front it looks like a Nissan. The tail lights look like a Honda.

@varietasVeritas 2 года назад

They both felt a dramatic stiffness increase.......🤣

@Sentient6ix 2 года назад

I watched all the old FRS videos on your page when i was considering an 86GT back in 2019. I wound up with a 2016 BRZ for a pretty decent price in February. Have been enjoying the car since, and yeah, it's getting an engine swap.

@Lobo_Argent 2 года назад

The gt86 running on e85 is the way to go. Super glad they made a successor

@whygodrums10 3 года назад

Damnit I thought I’d be the only one picking up on that gauge cluster shape being the shape of a boxer engine.

@Jorge_Magallon 2 года назад

Paul’s allusion to the 94x86 Bore to Stroke makes “86” moniker unauthentic? Hmmm, Taycan TURBO. Love you Paul!

@louie1086 3 года назад

Watching every review today lol

@kenneth5769 3 года назад

Great upgrades - bigger engine, functional side vents, nice side profile but they ditched the manual tachometer :/

@Leonidae 3 года назад

*analog

@Edwin_Lam 3 года назад

Great review! How do you think driving this car in the snow will be like?

@papatorr3669 3 года назад

14:26 : And here I thought the GT86, predecessor to the GR86, was named in honor of the AE86, now still famous in part by the race driver and drift king Keiichi Tsuchiya!?!? That's interesting that it's also partially the displacement.

@EverydayDriver 3 года назад

Yes, it’s a reference to the AE86, and that cars name relates to its engine. Ultimately, the engine size isn’t that important to maintain the history or the badge. Thanks for watching!

@papatorr3669 3 года назад

@@EverydayDriver Aha! Thanks! I forwarded your video to my son emediatelly. He has a down payment on a GR86!

@JOMFSE 3 года назад

BMW used to relate their name to the engine size. It kept that same idea but not as neat as it used to be 😤

@jamesflores1146 Год назад

A good driver can change the game with this ride💯😳

@kignacio 2 года назад

That Monticello motor club is $70,000 initial, $550 a month for base level membership and limited to 15 days a year 😬

@Sable_Slipper23 3 года назад

I have been waiting for this car for 2 years. Sign me up.

@ronaldcolman6211 3 года назад

Finally got the front end right, then made the rear look like a Civic with a 'biff' haricut.

@zm0rc 2 года назад

I like the duckbill, to each their own.

@gene978 2 года назад

Thanks Boys! Perfection as Usual. I don’t use that word often. :)

@andoniades 2 года назад

I miss my old '16 FRS...especially rowing gears in the Cascades. But I missed power more and went that route with another car. Glad Toyota improved the vehicle. Sounds like future owners will be more proud to own the FRZ86.

@A861967 2 года назад

The 1st Gen Looked better, perhaps this will look better when I see one in the metal as a GTS86 owner I will go and drive the GR86 and see how much better it is. Great review as always

@joshkekiwi 2 года назад

Can't wait to order mine !

@dachanist 2 года назад

So Todd loves it... and Paul wouldn't mind getting a word in edgewise maybe someday.

@jjay718 2 года назад

I would like to see Brembos and a rev match downshift button. I know the pedal placement on this car suppose to be perfect for heal toe but it would be nice to have the option.

@bedmember 3 года назад

Why do people complain about it not having a turbo? Claiming to know more than a company that's one of the biggest manufacturer in the world? Toyota knows you're still going to buy it anyway. I used to think it needed a turbo, but over the years and as my taste has evolved, I think it doesn't need it. Sure, it would be fun and thrilling to add a turbo. Tune it, chase after more expensive sports cars and feel good about it. It also makes you look insecure and compensating. You can't exploit it half of the time on the road, unless you track it every week. If you were Toyota, would you allow it to go against the Supra? Not to mention turbos add complexity and more importantly cost.

@Brian-uq6jm 2 года назад

Adding a turbo would defeat the purpose of this car, which belongs to the skidpad and track. To make a race car out of this, the major things to do is reduce its weight and tune the suspension, wheels and tyres, not adding weight to the front end from a turbo, that'd just be retarded. If people want a turbo'ed car, they are looking at the wrong car. They should go get the Mustang, the new Z, or whatever fills their ego. The 86 is a serious car and it can't be compromised, and i hope it stays this way.

@Brian-uq6jm 2 года назад

And just some food for thought: Some Chinese RU-vidr made a comparison video between two cars, 86 and BRZ, one supercharged to have 100 extra hp on the wheels, and another staying on stock power and getting the weight reduced to 1200kg with a fully retuned the suspension. Both have upgraded wheels and tyres. The lighter car wins on a track. It's sort of expected though, when it comes to adding power or reducing weight, reducing weight always takes priority when making it faster on a track cuz adding power doesn't only add weight, it also requires changing and strengthening of other parts which can add more weight, which changes handling and corner speed for the worse.

@JoshuaTootell 2 года назад

Most people never get enough track time to even fully exploit a car at the track. At one point I was hitting the track at least once a month on my motorcycle for a couple years in a row and I was still seeing decent improvements every time. If you are that pure of a track driver, you already know what you want in a car and either did, or did now, buy this car for a reason.

@Brian-uq6jm 2 года назад

@@JoshuaTootell True. I'm just just so glad Toyota and Subaru don't give in and add a turbo to this car whatever their reasoning was. Those who want a turbo can easily do it themselves. These cars are already a rare breed and are almost going extinct. Now everything is going turbo and big numbers to sell cars. I have the upmost respect for Toyota/Subaru/Mazda for keeping these cars alive the way they are. I just hope they keep this up for as long as they can.

@DLPTonyATL 2 года назад

WhooHoo! I'd love to try out the Miata, but my legs are too damn long. Looks like the 86 is the route to go for just a fun test drive. Nice video!

@DLPTonyATL 2 года назад

@@hashimrahman51 :: chuckling:: @ ‘Go Kart’. Right on. 😜

@HandsomeAlex25 3 года назад

First video I'm watching on this car. Love that you guys come from different perspectives on the first gen.

@eddiewehmeyer1811 2 года назад

I picked one up on 4/11/2022....it is just a lil' dose of fun....simple and fun and has a taste of power

@jomesguerra 2 года назад

did you get the manny or auto?

@franzvanjulio5523 3 года назад

So excited to see the review. Thanks for the great content on RU-vid, the podcast and everything else you provide. Be well!

@EverydayDriver 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for being with us!

@thirdpedalnirvana 3 года назад

My heart sinks every time I remember they replaced the real tachometer with a fake one

@thirdpedalnirvana 3 года назад

Ok the boxer shape screen is pretty cool. If they added the crank, con rod, and pistons when you got in and you see them animate and spin up and swirl into the tachometer when you actually start the car, I'd forgive the fake tachometer

@derivinity 3 года назад

That's the one thing I'm kinda iffy on, I much prefer analog gauges, but I'm sure it'll grow on me

@thirdpedalnirvana 3 года назад

@@derivinityI know that lcd screens are lower cost and give you the option of having multiple styles of gauge cluster, so I get why the switch is happening. But I lament it because I am a desk worker with an inactive lifestyle. I wake up and am on my phone before I've even gone to the bathroom. I work in front of a computer. I go home and my entertainment is iPads, TV's, videogames, etc. I don't have a family yet to sit around the dinner table with so we usually eat in front of the TV. My entire life is screens, the only sustained time I escape them is when driving.

@lepepus 2 года назад

Agreed, but I'm even more annoyed that they are pipping engine sound through the speakers. Big no no when making such a pure driver's car!

@Brian-uq6jm 2 года назад

I drive a current Gen BRZ. The digital gauges are really a turnoff for me on the new one. Also the exterior of my car still looks better to me than the new one. Other than the above minor gripes, I'd like to own the new one some day.

@pdpiper 3 года назад

Oh man!!! This might be the first new car I ever buy

@zakunknown9737 2 года назад

I watched your OG WRX vs BRZ video. I ended up buying both eventually. I'm so excited for this car.

@EverydayDriver 2 года назад

Thanks for being a long time viewer!!

@elnyoutube123 2 года назад

I would go for the skinny tires tbh I like that out of control old school car feel

@papatorr3669 3 года назад

So according to Edmund's my 1997 BMW Z3 weighed 2690 lbs., had 190 HP at 5,300 rpm, and 207 ft-lbs of torque at 3950 rpm. I thought of it when you announced at the beginning that the increase in torque is what made the difference. And if I had to pick I would prefer a car with more torque than horsepower on public roads. I would then rather Toyota had developed the inverse of those numbers: 184 HP, and 228 ft-lbs! My newer 01 Z3 developes puts out about 225 HP at 5,900 rpm and 214 ft-lbs at 3,500 rpm. I know they're only two seaters, but they're convertibles!

@papatorr3669 2 года назад

@@twhalen I'll look it up elsewhere and edit this reply I thought it was just over 2800 lb

@_MacGuffin_ 3 года назад

I don't know if it's just me...probably....but everytime I see the new one I am reminded of KIRBY....in a good way...it's Kawaii...which is actually an interesting thing in a world where sportscars need to be agressive and angry....no, its the Neo-Hachiroku it can be kawaii...it's the 20ies...

@LotusOwnersOfTexas 3 года назад

Seeing the recent flood of pictures of this car, I have not been excited. I preferred the exterior of the gen one. After watching this review, I'm excited for the new generation. My wife and I owned a BRZ for many years, a love hate relationship 😅. The new one sounds like a gem.

@LotusOwnersOfTexas 2 года назад

@@hashimrahman51 definitely agree about looking more muscular and red is my favorite👍🏻👍🏻

@jeffsloane8628 2 года назад

Love the updates. I miss that low section behind the front wheel in the upper portion of the front fenders. That made the car look so much longer than it really was. The new one lacks this uniqueness.

@SunnyCue-ew5ow 5 месяцев назад

Two 6'3 adults rolling in an 86. That's really good and lets me know I can easily buy this now since my only problem is I'm built like an NFL linebacker. My G35 coupe was very spacious btw

@KosmicKitchen 2 года назад

How does the GR compare to the tuned FRS you had?

@Poorschedriver 2 года назад

The front end reminds me of a Jag F Type, and the rear looks like a Mitsubishi FTO; and damn is that a good compliment.

@Mexxx65 3 года назад

Porsche 944S2 : "He ain't heavy Mr., he's my brother!!!!"

@calebleong5853 2 года назад

Really glad they’ve allowed the fake noise to be disabled at the dealers! Perfect!

@Stigmaru 2 года назад

10:58 I believe the perfect word to sum up the interior is "Modular." Everything looks very modular like as if it's inviting you to update it with something aftermarket.

@aspiratedaloha2946 2 года назад

I think they killed it with the styling

@swanblake 2 года назад

What's interesting is the new engine still has the power gap /drop in the middle of the rpm band. Surprised they didn't fix that. The fake engine noise through the speakers is so overwhelming that I hope you can turn that off like in the Hyundai/Kia products

@casperko8311 2 года назад

I must admit, I was skeptical about the styling choices for the GR, particularly the taillights and rear in general. However, The interior upgrades, engine upgrades, and all the improvements have won me over. The headlights look very premium albeit less aggressive than the GT's. Over time I think I'll come to like the taillights as well.

@Joseph-ts5yz 2 года назад

I'm still considering the rear also. I love the front lights. I think the brz lights look a little funny and I would choose the Toyota over the suburu just because of the slight front end differences

@MiguelGarcia-hg3ht 2 года назад

@@hashimrahman51 that's what sold me too. If only Nissan makes another Sylvia I'll be in heaven.

@davodooo 2 года назад

thank you for review, you two are great :) is manual still faster than the automatic like previous gen ? how does the AT perform for 0-100 and max speed compared to MT ?

@EverydayDriver 2 года назад

According to Toyota, the MT is now down to 6.1 and the AT to 6.5. They mentioned top speeds, and the MT still being faster, but we don't remember the figures. Thanks for watching!

@geneb1719 3 года назад

Happy to see this in my feed this morning. Looks like a solid car. Hope the first generation becomes more affordable. I just wish they were as powerful as my WRX. I had an 86 race me uphill and it was sad (it did hang in the turns, no problem) . The running cost and maintenance have to be much less for the 86. That is mostly why I want one.

@momsbasement656 3 года назад

Eh, that bigger 2.4L engine not only fixes the power flaws, it sucks up fuel. This isn't much of an economy car.

@geneb1719 3 года назад

@@momsbasement656 Good thought about fuel. I wasn't really thinking about it. But, I have spent way more on tires than any of the RWD cars I have ever owned. I drive tight canyon roads daily. The unsophisticated suspension of my 2005 WRX causes the outside edge to wear down fast. Local alignment shop won't do anything but factory alignment. If one tire goes out, you buy four new ones. I buy a set at least once every year. I have spent quite a bit keeping up with my car. It is old. A newer car should be more reliable and need less repairs. Mechanically the 86 is much more simple. No turbo. 2 less differentials. 2 less CV axles. I have been looking at 2015 86s with big brakes. The prices are high. I do think it would be much cheaper to own.

@momsbasement656 3 года назад

@@geneb1719 Yeah, I could see the WRX being more expensive besides just fuel. It's based on a rally car and I remember rally racing being very expensive when I used to participate. I assume the Miata doesn't have what you need? It has a more sophisticated suspension than the GR86, double wishbone front vs McPherson struts. I personally find the Miata stock swaybars much too whimpy and replace them.

@geneb1719 3 года назад

@@momsbasement656 Good suggestion. I LOVE a miata. I've had two (94,99). But even putting the seat on the floor, Im too tall. 6'4" long torso. It was dangerous to drive. It needs a hardtop, rollbar, dropped seat , smaller extended wheel, and the suspension is so soft these cars usually lean towards the driver's side because of the driver's weight. Also, the engine is from the 80s for na and nb. Initial purchase is cheap, but it needs a lot. No experience with the nd. It's out of my budget. No perfect car. Lol. But, I dream.

@momsbasement656 3 года назад

@@geneb1719 I'm tall also. Tried the ND...still kind of tiny. The NC however, fits me fine AND you can get it with an amazing folding hardtop. I'm planning on getting one when the prices are no longer insane. NC with the power folding hardtop is personally my favorite Miata. Basically a miniature RX7. Love it.

@danespi193 3 года назад

Header and tune on my 17 BRZ & wont sell. Love the newer models but its not enough for me to let go of mine. Great video guys!

@scottanthony3426 3 года назад

Can you provide some specifics? I have same year - '17 Limited with Performance Pack. I'm fine with the suspension, but am thinking about the header/tune route. Been looking at Perrin. Once I heard the new one was going to have a new drivetrain, I put that idea on hold. Was planning to upgrade tires when the OEM tires that everyone bitches about wear out too. Thanks. I always go back and look at Todd's FRS video in which they did a header and tune and got rid of the torque dip. Ours have the advantage of shorter gearing than the '13 that Todd owned, so that helps a bit too (and that massive 5 HP/5 ft-lb torque.) If you stuck with the '17" wheels, we may have some savings on unsprung weight too. I am still under 25K miles too, and sprung for winter wheels and tires, so I'm not super anxious to get rid of it yet. At a minimum, I'd probably wait for the '23 or later to see how the new 2.4 version holds up.

@ernesternest815 3 года назад

@@scottanthony3426 yes wait for a used one. The issue with trading up is you will be paying a lot in that trade for more power. Not sure it’s worth it for DD. But I will drive one and see. If you are auto x or tracking maybe it’s worth it. Certainly not getting the first year, unless I was up for a new car.

@justinguerrero6357 3 года назад

I currently have a 2017 and I feel like it’s pretty slow. Will a header and tune really make a difference ? Dyno wise it’s only like 10 hp more

@danespi193 2 года назад

@@scottanthony3426 Also performance package, love my brembos - why no Brembos for these models? HKS Intake Tube / high flow filter JDL UEL catted header / Motiv OP 2.5 / Stock FP & Exhuast JR NA Oil Cooler Perrin Crank Pulley Dyno tuned Michelin Pilot Sport 4 s / RPF1 17x8 Swift Spec R Springs / StopTech Sport Pads Its quiet, and has a nice growl and its stupid fun. Love these new models for sure but I love my current BRZ too much. Mine is a daily and mountain slayer. 70K miles on mine lol I use liquid moly oil and change strictly every 4k miles

@danespi193 2 года назад

@@justinguerrero6357 After a dyno tune I'm happy to see the tq dip is no more. Still slow in a straight line yes, but one of the fastest on the curves for the money.

@Bones12x2 2 года назад

It's absolutely a revolutionary engine change. The original was objectively too slow in any situation other than at high RPM on a track. I wanted to like one, I drove one on the track and the street and bought a used 350Z instead and that was by far the better choice. But if this new torque band and power under the curve is as substantial as it seems then it completely changes my interest in the car.