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it's said that when one attends a Meshuggah concert, one will see the crowd bobbing in sometimes 3 or 4 different subdivisions....and they are ALL correct.
I got to see them back in the 90s on their first American tour and people weren't moving at all. Everybody stood silent in disbelief at what they were seeing and hearing. I got to meet them that night and they were super nice guys. I also found out they don't smoke weed because I offered and they politely declined claiming they only drink.
The pattern is called "herta". And I bet Tomas legs gotta herta after this race. I know he had to change the way he approached the drums to be able to play this song. Also, it took him about 6 months to learn it completely. As a guitar player I´d like us all to pls take a moment and think about the forearm stamina of the guitar/bassplayers. This is a musical masterpiece.
Drummers are mad awesome. Im a guitarist and bass playey, economy picking is your freind, and as you get faster you can just circle pick so stamina just isnt an issue, i have no idea how drummers can do poly so fucking easily....
Yeah,when Edvard Hansson follows Thomas Haake's Herta with one finger on the strobe mix table....INSANE... It's so fun to find videos on Edvard when he plays the lights manually to every song 👍👍👍👍👍
Had to come back to this reaction. This song never strays from 4/4 at any one point of the song. They're just insanely good at polyrhythms and beat manipulation!
Yea, its always 4/4 but that specific note grouping of this little galloping pattern we hear throughout the song loops back in over the course of 2 measures and its not starting that 3rd measure the same as the 1st measure did. Its gonna start in the upbeat swing of that 4/4 timing. All that the main pattern is, is three 16th note triplets followed by a 1/2 beat rest then an 8th note. And literally just repeat those 4 notes in time with the groove the time signature forces. Once you find that swingy kinda groove it has to it, its easy. Adding in the ghost notes so eligantly and maintaining perfect time with the opposing hand is just flexing if you ask me lmao
When "Nothing" came out, I had to give it a couple of times listening in the recordstore. At first it all sounded off BUT cool! Amazing music and band🤘 -From a Norwegian
its like on top you have normal voices talking, like "hey man, do you want to go out for a coffee", and on the bottom you have, "BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA BRRRTA"
I’m actually from Montreal, Québec, so French is technically my first language. The majority of people from around here are bilingual, though. I just worked extra hard on erasing my Québécois accent!
when you talk about endurance he has to have in this song, the funny thing is, they usually play Bleed as the last or penultimate song 😂 so this is after an hour and half of drumming already
In a interview i just watch, they said they hate playing it. It takes so much effort to perform, almost like the hole rest of the set. So if they could choose they would remove it and focus on the rest of the set
@@ZekeTheWolf and that adds up. I went to watch them a few months ago in Manchester and I was really looking forward to hearing it. They didn't play it but it makes sense now
are they? In metal they do get quite a lot of attention, like Tomas, Matt from Periphery, The Rev, etc. Also, as a reactor said, "A band is only as good as the drummer"
It's insane just in a vacuum, but this level of tightness and endurance is happening ~90 minutes into the set, when Bleed is usually played. These guys are not from this world.
Extremely underrated note here. For people who aren't terribly familiar, this is really not out of their wheelhouse. Live shows are insane and you get lost in the fact that Jens doesn't really move. A foot up and that's generally it. Sonically is where the chaos lives. Lights just really amplify the experience. But back to Bleed. Essentially Haake said is was written to not be played. And it's probably the most notable now. So they ain't opening with that. Five, six, seven in and they implode the building. Just from a stamina point of view... I mean, do you want to fuck with Thomas Haake? Anyway, Nuke brings up a point that you should take with you into the next Meshuggah show. I The shows are impressive but the engine is fucking bananas.
It allways crack me up when people talk about how much stamina this song takes. This is really just on song of a 1 hour + set. The stamina to do a gig like that is absolutelly insane. Doing it every day for years is inhuman!
This took Tomas 6 months to be able to play. Almost as long as the time it took him to learn the other songs in album that Bleed came from. Clockworks has a drum playthrough and that is from their most recent album. I'd also recommend future breed machine
The sad part is that those ghost notes don't get picked up by the mic, or rather so silent that you can barely notice it. At least I couldn't hear it on youtube, while you can clearly see them played.
@@shredder9643 I don't think that's the issue here though, the issue here is that it's either poorly mixed record or just snare mic being too far off or weirdly set up, I can't notice the ghost notes at all. One of the music producers was also reacting to this same recording here on YT and he heard none either. I usually always detect all these minor intricacies and I very much enjoy when drummers add all that extra layer to a song.
Pat, you also need to see Tomas play Clockworks, unbelievable good song too. His ghost notes on his snare set up his timing for his kicks for this song. His footwork is all set up with hertas. And a little note for you, he spent most of his writing time for obZen ( the album the song comes from ) just on this song. Something like 6 months to train himself for the kick patterns, written from drum software.
Not to even mention the nuttiest part of it all imo, the ghost notes thatre just hip thrusting in the back and maintaining the groove pocket that this particular rythem/song flourished from. Its a resounding two handed 🤘🤘 from shredder.
"I'm trying to keep, like, a 4/4 thing going on..." and then as on que - Meshuggah throws a curve ball. Such a great timing and so true with these guys! Seen them live a few times and it's such a great experience every time. Still hoping for that Anika Nilles reaction, btw!
One thing a lot of people are unaware aout is that during a concert back in 99 Tomas actually broke his back. He was standing to the right in the pit and some woman came running at him and then jumped towards him and as a pure reaction he catched her and his back just cracked. The injuries made his right leg fold in under the drum throne while playing :-) The fact that this man is still able to play like this in INSANE.
I believe he's doing hertas on his feet. Typically a hand technique. Time signature is straight 4/4. I'd love to see you react/commentary to Lord Marco performing "The Husk" or "Mental Prolapse" or "Genetic Inheritance". Thanks!
Great vid! One thing you forgot to note, Thomas loves to play ghost notes on the snare in between each snare hit. Mainstream will never understand the complexity and masterpiece of this song!
Meshuggah is one of those bands you really get the most appreciation out of a lot of their songs after a few listens to nail down what is really going on....and it's almost always worth it.
Besides the rhythm consistency of the band you should also know that the light technician is doing the strobe effects manually. I've observed him doing this at a liveshow, and was like WTF
I'm not even a drummer never played an instrument in my life but your passion for the drums makes a video worth watching ! Over and over again keep it up
It's amazing that people still think that the lights are done manually, and still spread that video. That video was recorded 8 years ago and shortly after that, Meshuggah started playing against click tracks and went over to fully pre preprogrammed lightshows. His name is Edvard Hansson and he is an amazing light operator and light designer and here is his youtube channel . ru-vid.com/show-UCX2SzBV4epScnDbunObW9Ig But its still so hilarious that people still think that all lights are done manually still, 8 years later.
Every time I am listening to that song I feel like there is some kind of wall going and crushing all in its way. This is the very essence of metal, incredibly heavy one
I saw Tomas in an interview say the main thing for him when performing or practicing,....is to put all of my concentration on relaxing. He said your mind works much more efficiently when your not playing outside your abilities. Which allows you to relax. For instance playing things slower to get a handle on it before you full send it. I think that's perfect advice. I've been playing for years and it's still extremely difficult to FULLY relax while playing. He is a world-beater to say the least. He is,...imo,....the Guthrie Govan of drummers.
2:03 I've discussed this with some musicians and some great double bass drummers so I can confirm: the basic beat is a polyrhythm in 4/4 that repeats after 2 bars AND 16th notes with 32nd notes.
3:50 that's the reaction I was waiting for haha. People at the beginning of this song: "Alright, I figured it out, it's simple but hard I get it." And then it hits you and you just give up.
i love the fact that you listen to this with the HD600's. those are absolute beasts and give this amazing wide sound dimension. Great video dude! kep it up!
The time signature on guitar goes nuts, its so hard to figure out by ear. Needless to say, these guys were way more deserving of coverage for their insanely technical skill. Glad they are finally getting some recognition
Maaaan I love how the guitar on the right ear drones up and back into the rhythm @ 3:10. They are so masterful. So many variations within a 4/4 signature.
The great thing I love with these bands like Meshuggah, Tool, Jinjer and most progish bands is that they have dynamics down to a science. It's also why I loved 90's House, most memorable songs that can still be played today had dynamics and progression throughout the songs. Their songs are constantly on the move, even the songs like Bleed that have an overall sense of being an onslaught or droning on, the song, the rhythms, everything is still constantly changing. Even the Chorus is rarely the same every time, it too progresses. You had the same with oldschool rock, metal and rap, every song was a journey, musically and lyrically. I never understood why people love pop music so much where usually everything from the beat to the chorus is just a constant boring repeat with no dynamics and no real progression between repeats of the same loops.
It's because the songs are designed to sell, and the biggest market is the ones who aren't actively listening to music. Those listeners don't want to hear insane progression and nuance, they want to be able to sing along the next time around while focusing on whatever they're doing. They won't hear the nuances anyway. Sad reality of most industries today, unfortunately. Quality doesn't scale in cost efficiency.
Experiencing it live is in a world of itself.... the sound set up was so superb that you felt the kicks on every note... easily one of the best concerts I've been too.
I watched an interview on Swedish tv with tokas talking about this song and they realized after making this and it become a huge hit. Suddenly it was clear they would have to play this song on every show for the rest of their lives and tomas said "what the fuck have we done?" In Swedish obv. fantastic drumming this man is unreal.
It took longer for him to learn this one song than the entire rest of the album. Months into practicing it, he almost gave up but ended up learning it in approx 6 months.
great video! just one comment, about the time signatures: it is for sure in 4/4, as the snare and cymbals imply and the song structure too (with changes after 4 bars). but the rhythmic pattern in the bass drum isn't: it starts with a pattern in 3/16, which changes latter to a pattern of 5/16 and after the brake it goes to a 27/16 (7+7+5+3+5). it actually does not match the 4/4 structure, it almost overrides the counting.
Nice video man, I can't get enough of people reacting to this song, especially drummers who actually understand how impossibly insane this kind of drumming is. I would highly recommend Thomas Haake's Clockwork drum playthrough, its an excellent song that's focused solely on the drumming and it has a much different feel to this song, not so much emphasis on double pedal polys yet equally impressive.
Got introduced by my uncle to meshuggah with about 16 - (Album Chaosphere on a Tape) back then my favourite band still to now and saw them several times live. Glad to see that this Band still inspires and give awe to the "younger generation". Their style and music are imho timeless
He said in an interview around the time this album was released that he had to completely change his playing style and come up with a new approach to playing his bass drums in order to just record this song.
There's something I'd LOVE for Tomas to do at a live event. When he's done playing Bleed, he stands up, walks over to the front of the stage, rips the mic out of Jens' hand, and just yells "OOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW", after which he casually walks back to the drumset and awaits the next song on the lineup to commence.
