Cool idea but the issue is having to rack the slide with each shot. By training this way, you are creating muscle memory with shooting outside of this. Solve that and I’m in.
@@CozyLoungeShortsHe actually has a good point. While it might seem silly,it can ingrain a bad habit into your routine. Seen several people who train that way do it in class. Do it in real life..THATS YO ASS!!! #NoDiddy
This would be out of this world if you manage to assimilate projector/screen moving targets and/or various scenarios with actual real people on the footage and all that combined with mantis laser. Imagine that... Different scenarios, different moving/running/concealed targets... Wow... Like a real thing 👌👍
If you guys make a dry fire mag that resets the trigger while also allowing the use of the laser that would be an absolute game-changer. I'm glad I read your FAQ because I almost bought the dryfiremag to compliment this kit because I thought it would be great to be able to keep shooting without having to re-rack the gun after every shot.
@@Heisenberg618 ok, my mistake. In fact I was just watching a review on the laser academy and I was wondering that myself. And I see you can’t by those lasers as a stand-alone in any rifle calibers, but when you buy the laser academy, .223/5.56 is an option. I’m guessing the Blackbeard basically solves that?
@@dennisceklovsky2948 Forgot to mention that I emailed Mantis about this and asked if they had anything in the works for a device that will reset the firing pin while also allowing the laser to function and they told me they are working on “something special”. So I can’t wait! :-)
I just got my Mantis X10 and had previously been dryfiring with a laser. I just went in and was checking out the Laser Academy. As others have said it would be great to be able to integrate the 2. I love all the extra info I get with the Mantis over just using a laser but It would be nice to be able to see an approximation of where we are shooting not just our technique. Before I got my Mantis X10 I would rarely dryfire with the laser. Now I am training daily but also find myself looking for where my laser hits. I also have a Blackbeard coming in soon.
@@bruce-bruce7975 Mantis Blackbeard is used in an AR-15 to reset the trigger when dryfiring. You replace the bcg with the Blackbeard bolt and it has a battery similar to a magazine that inserts in the mag well. You can get them with or with a laser. When you pull the trigger it will reset it so you can pull trigger again without having to pull the charging handle to reset the trigger
Cool system! I just received my X10 set as well and love it. Just ordered the Laser Academy system, and will pick up a Blackbeard and some other goodies soon. I echo other commenters, requesting integration between the X series and the Laser Academy. Evolving the systems into an integrated ecosystem would be icing on the cake! Another feature request would be a "Drill-Builder" component, for say... designing stages for IDPA, IPSC, USPSA, etc. and even be able to share them with the Mantis user community. I get it, that it would be difficult (not impossible) to capture the shoot & move aspect of action pistol sports, but some static stages, like the standards or qualifier stages would be highly useful and allow room for the system to grow indefinitely. This would be a way for the community to take some of the load off of the devs, that could spend less time programming drills, and more time adding or enhancing product functionality. This also encourages the community to do a lot of your marketing for you. ;-)
Got this system a couple weeks ago, I really like it but I would love to see some more 2 person drills, even a simple best score of 10 shots for example. It seems like there is a lot of potential in the app to make this a fun system for the family to use together.
you guys need to make it so you don;t have to rack the gun after every shot. that could potentially teach the shooter a bad habit. If not for that issue I would have ordered it. I'll keep my eye out for the before mentioned improvement.
I purchased a double/single hammer fired pistol (Taurus PC3). Fewer out there these days, but I like the safety aspect and I can fire as many shots as I like w/o having to re-cock or activate the slide. This is a great tool for getting better and having fun.
Being in the production industry I'm usually very critical of promotion videos. This spokesman is good and the editor did a great job. You have a great promotion video
told my wife this is the only thing i want for christmas haha where i live in idaho there aren't any indoor ranges and it gets balls cold and snowy outside. now i can spend winter staying sharp
Is there any way of using the laser bullet without racking in between? Let's suppose I want to train as with normal bullets the Mozambique drill: 2 to the body, one to the head. Unless my gun is jammed or empty ;-) I luckily do not have to rack it every time I want to shoot. Is this possible with the laser bullets as well?
Couldn’t you auto calculate and adjust for the sight over bore if you got the sight height, the zero distance, and the shooting distance? This would be an amazing feature.
An annoying message to buy mantis target is in the way when using n9nmantis targets. But very generous of mantis to provide free download of their targets, thank you
Have had this since it came out. Love it! Very intuitive and easy to use and set up. I use 2 devices and use my X10 on my iPod and my phone on the laser app. Also like the fact I can use my own targets with the “control” target to run the app. Keep up the great work Mantis Team!!! 💯🎯🔫👍🏼👊🏼
Got the Academy as a gift with a .45 cartridge. Purchased additional .380 and 9mm brand new. None of the three cartridges worked. Hard to believe ALL the batteries were dead. After 2 hours messing with it, I returned the whole thing. Disappointed, to say the least.
I'm sorry you had an issue! Did you place the batteries in the right way? All the batteries are shipped brand new. We're happy to ship new batteries if there was an issue.
New iPhone, regular American home. Medium light, white walls. Software can't find targets. Wasted 2 hours. System is going back. It's deeply flawed. LOVE the X10 though.
How about an explanation of the Laser Academy targets? I think I understand the object of the HUNT target, but I was expecting the app to recognize the target and maybe call out the color, shape, and # for me to find and hit within a certain time to score. Doesn’t seem to work that way. The bullseye targets are no brainers, not sure what the other targets are for if they all do essentially the same thing.
Just picked up several of the laser cartridges and the target pack! (I already have a tripod and such for my own channel’s videos, so figured I’d avoid the redundancy. Wish the pro app was a little cheaper, but if it does what it’s supposed to, I’ll be quite happy with it
Had to get a laser from a third party, as I needed 300 blackout, but I’ll be using the app, buying a Blackbeard and possibly getting the kit in .45 acp as well. Might just buy the pro IAP though. Haven’t decided.
I just set my system up. Love it! Since it’s being suggested so much I’m sure you guys will combine everything in one app to allow use of laser and X10. For now I will just run the apps on separate devices.
I have seen some "Old Timers" swear by this system. Where I think the downside is there is no recoil. This is one of my problems. If for 100.00 it helps 1/2 as much as claimed it is probably really good.
I’d love to buy this as there is an ammo shortage. But I’m wondering, once I invest in the system, how much is it from there? Do you have to keep buying the bullets, or are they good for a long time? How long does one bullet last, appx?
It varies from gun to gun. Some guns are more aggressive and will poke holes in the end cap much quicker than others. In general, you would need to replace the batteries and end cap occasionally.
I am interested on this laser kit. Given the size of the targets that can be printed or ordered, what is the realistic distance to shoot at the targets?
Only once, very 1st time have I been able to get this system to work when I was shooting from 7 yards. After that, no joy. Needs much more documentation.
The two are not currently integrated, but you can certainly use them at the same time if your phone/tablet allows this. Otherwise, you may need two phones/tablets to run both apps simultaneously.
I got this Mantis kit 3 months ago & still cannot get it set up. I've reached out to support and they have been responsive. However my cartridge does not sit in my firearm well. Also, have not received an answer to confirming if my (empty) magazine must be in my firearm.
I’ve been hoping for the same thing! Right now it requires two devices (one for X10, one for Laser) but it sure would be awesome if they could combine them.
Not having much success with the camera recognizing the targets. Is there a certain distance the camera has to be from the targets? I’m seeing a lot of red blurring lines as the camera struggles to acquire the target. Also the targets recv’d seem smaller than those shown in the video.
Can you actually do an example of setting the ballistic offset to say mimic 15 yards. Does that take into account the optic mounted or is it just taking into account the distance? Saying it can do it and showing how are two very different things, thanks. I hope you can make videos of this great product.
FYI - Video does not explain how to test the laser before operating it. After unboxing the kit be sure to test the laser by poking an object carefully into the striker side. It behaves as a momentary switch. If the laser does not fire it could be because the factory has installed a small plastic "block" causing the battery circuit to be stopped from completing the electrical cycle. I had this problem and it had taken some time to figure out. I thought it was my pistols not striking the laser switch. Another problem I had was not figuring out why (once the laser cartridge was working manually) would not fire while pulling the trigger on one of my pistols. Turns out the gun need to have an EMPTY magazine loaded. Other than that I'm off to learn some of the programs today. NEXT!
I wish you would build an under barrel adapter to fit my 2011 system. Am Magazin makes no sense for wechsel. I would like to practice live drill drills
Just got the mantis academy my control target was working for the first 10 minutes but then it stopped working. Tried adjusting the lighting and placement of the camera everything is there a target box I have to place over the control target?
Please, someone explain to me how Google is NOT collecting all the data about shooters' location, caliber, accuracy, frequency, if the system involves an app?
Dude, if you have a phone with Google on it, they already have all your info. If your that worried, use an old phone that's not connected to a carrier and shut off location and WiFi to run your drills.
So, are you chambering each shot? Did I hear something hit the floor, but I never saw a casing discharge after each fire. I’m confused. But curious. Thanks. Keith O
The Pink Rhino Laser Training Cartridge that comes in the kit is designed to stay in the chamber between shots. The sounds you're hearing are coming from the app.
Yeah, that was my question , too. I figured the laser cartridge would stay in the chamber but I thought you had dummy rounds in your magazine. Can you eliminate the sound of the shells hitting the floor or will that also disable the shot fired sound because you're turning off the sound on your phone completely? By the way I'm a long time user of the Mantis x original system and it's the best dry fire system I know until I get my new laser kit of course :)
Hi guys! Great product i owned it 3 weeks ago. Very great product. I have a question: why sometimes a green line appears next to the point of impact? Thanks!
Nice presentation and neat app. I have been thinking of getting into a laser dryfire system for a while now and saw one of your competitors featured on Autumn's Armory the other day. I ended up looking into the rest of your competitors as well as your system but ended up going with yet another system which was the only company that sold a laser insert for the 9x18mm Makarov. You should look into offering a Makarov laser since there are a lot of folks who are into these surplus Warsaw Pact 9mm's since they make decent carry guns and if you make a 9x19mm Luger and 9x17mm laser it shouldn't be too hard to mill one in 9x18mm too. It would be nice if someone made .32ACP versions but I get that would mean a much smaller cartridge than the typical .30 caliber case format. It would mean a different smaller-diameter battery too. I really like the options your app gives and will definitely download and try it along with the app from G-Fire to compare and try out. One very important feature of any app is data security and especially when it comes to firearms training. The best days security is to never allow data to be uploaded/shared with the developers in the first placd (other than perhaps crash data) and especially never to third parties or in the worst case a subpoena from law enforcement or a judge in a criminal trial. So kudos on giving the user the option to keep their sessions and data anonymous and not requiring a login. The best way to protect your data is to not let it out there in the first place. The gun community is still reeling from the Liberty Safe debacle but even the best private or publicly-held company can not keep data safe when a legitimate subpoena is issued to them from the government for access to such data.
I came to the video cause I don't understand how systems like this actually help with real life accuracy given you don't have the recoil how does the system compensate for this? I don't think I heard this addressed in this video.
What does the remote on the standard tripod control. I've seen a bunch of un boxing videos but not once has someone mentioned what this does. Also has anyone else had an impossible time getting the .380 Laser loaded?
The remote is only used to control the volume of your phone. There is nothing built in to the Laser Academy app that uses the remote that comes with the large tripod.
Question: My MP 2.0 Sheild EZ 9mm is not actually a striker fire but acts like one. It is an internal hammer fired gun Do you still have to rack the slide each time?
Its not a tripod that Mantis produces, its just an off the shelf tripod and the remote is supposed to be paired with your phone to actuate the shutter for photos.
Hello, In comparison to other dry fire systems, I do hear in your video an actual shooting sound every time you fire a shot. Is that a sound the app creates and the sound goes through the phone speakers?
Laser is great. The app however is fairly useless. It will often fail to register your shots. Just as often it will pick up shots that didn't occur. Plus your phone will get SUPER HOT very quickly.
If you're having issues with shot detection, please reach out to us at Support@MantisX.com and we are happy to help get the issue taken care of for you.
I wish I saw your comment BEFORE buying. Long story short, I followed Mantis' setup suggestions and requirements and it still won't work with my house. It's either bunches of false positives, failure to register (despite 'adjusting' when it sees the laser), or both! I'd buy 'Pink Rhino' s and the X 10 Elite any day of the week but they failed with the L.A. program. The only way I'd improve the Pink Rhino would be to have an primer on/off (a switch from momentary function to I/0) function for bore-sighting and an extractor base [option] for people who don't need to rack the slide. I do hope you found a location that actually functioned in your house, mine apparently doesn't have one.
I used Mantis Laser Academy tonight for the first time and it's great, but I didn't have to rack slide. I was still able to get off the next shot each time and the app registered the shot on the target. Is rack sliding needed for some other reason?
I bought the mobile kit tripod on its own and it fails to hold up my iphone 14 pro...had to tighten it extra hard and now the plastic that holds the ball joint has cracked...not good quality at all, if it cant hold up todays phones.
The app has a calibrate feature where you set your desired point of aim, shoot that spot a few times, and then it calculates the offset for you automatically. You have to do that if you change guns or move further from the spot you calibrated at. It takes about 30 seconds or so, so you can switch between an AR with the blackboard and your carry gun pretty quickly.
You can set what distance you're training at in the app. You'll want your phone within 1-2 yards of the targets so that it gets a clear picture of the targets, but you can move back to 7-8 when training without issue.
Can’t seem to find the answer I’m looking for, so let me ask you since I noticed it while you were using the 10x Laser Academy. How did you get the sound of the gunshot when you pulled the trigger? I have not found an option for that. Thanks ahead of time.
When using Laser Academy, it will make this sound by default as long as you have sound enabled on your phone. When using the Mantis X10 Elite, you have to enable those sounds manually. If you're having issues with this, please reach out to us at Support@MantisX.com, and we are happy to help.
I just received it ...and the laser cartridge isnt working ...I removed the battery cover as instructed ...but not light coming from the cartridge...any suggestions
Try changing the batteries around. If that doesn't work, try replacing the batteries. And if that does work, please contact customer support and let them know of the issue.
@@MantisX I went to the website and chatted with the help desk...I didn't know there were 3 batteries that had to be inserted into the cartridge....I found the other batteries....and it now works!!!...thank you!!!
When using more than one target it will only detect one at time and when it detects more the one the other target keeps going in and out of detection. Long story short it will only focus one one target at a time. I have had to reload the app twice in two days to get this to work
Laser Academy can recognize multiple targets at once. If you are still having issues with target detection, please reach out to us at Support@MantisX.com. We are happy to help.
There are three LR626 watch batteries in the laser bullet that last for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of shots. As far as setting it to stay lit longer, that isn't currently possible. The laser bullet works from a pressure-sensitive button on the back that is hit by your striker/firing pin.
Yes, Laser Academy will work with California compliant guns. To keep the slide from locking back, we recommend using our TRT trainers, available here: mantisx.com/collections/all-items/products/trt-tap-rack-dry-fire-safety-training-aid-9mm-40-cal-pistol-magazine-dummy-ammo-3-pack
Yes! As long as you get the DryFireMag that comes with a Laser Cartridge. Our Pink Rhino Laser Cartridges will not activate from the DryFireMag itself.
