Just wanna say for anyone who hates sidechaining or have a corrupt daw like me that no longer allows for the sidechain function for some reason...many plugins have an auto ducking feature so it acts like a sidechain compressor onto whatever material is going through it and there's a mix knob so you can dial it just right, it makes life much easier. There's a thread on KVR which plugins have the feature, many are free, Cubase stock delay (cubase owners only), Kilohearts (free bundle plus many more great plugins), VoS NastyDLA mkII etc. Nice job as always Streaky, it's very easy to forget some of these processes while mixing and your tips are always really helpful. 👍
That's not what the video is about though? He's got other video for sinking the vocal and gluing to the mix, you just need to search his page. I just discovered this guy 3 hrs ago & already figured that out, so I'm not sure what's holding you back. He can't do everything in one video, it would be too long, & it helps his channel to split subjects up.
All's good but I prefer vocals, especially solo voices without any chorus effect. To me doing chorus makes vocals sound kind of boxed up and unnatural. I'd rather go in for controlled amounts of two delays and reverbs each through the aux or send busses. The first delay being slappy and pretty short happening in a narrow stereo range and the second in a wider stereo range, set as an alternated L+R tapper. Same with the reverbs, first one set as a short and small spaces room and the second as a big plate or hall or whatever big space preferred according to the genre, song etc.
I have the same comment as the one below. That being said, I got the full picture when the compressor was added.-> Use the compressor after the slightly high wet effect. It levels the centre of the (mono) dry signal back into the stereo field. Clever yet very logical approach if you let it sink in.
Hi Streaky! One of the great things about how you mixed these vocals is how you can turn up the volume a lot without hurting your ears. Making the vocals always enjoyable. BUT it would be great to hear setups for specific genres, like a Jeff Buckley singer songwriter big hall preset that comes somehow some milliseconds after a dry signal (that is intimate, in your face, but dreamy). There could be a rock example with distortion coloring too. Personally though the Jeff Buckley sound is something I think many singer songwriters, like me, would love to learn for their demos and simple approach. I’m always following your videos and saving the links to the phone notepad. Stay awesome! I’m excited at every video.
Loved the plug for your plugin ha ha! Good tips. I agree with others that it started to sound worse with the phasing (delay,octave difference L/R pan). Perhaps a little too strong for just the vocal. In the mix perhaps it works perfectly. Thanks for helping us get better mixes! Cherio
Bro Idk if you have a video about "bouncing a mixed track" BUT. could you make one? Bounce a finished mixed song with all the plugins to save CPU power in order to allow us to proceed with the mastering plugins without blowing the Cpu.
Thanks Streaky for new ideas on how to further shape vocals.☺ You are like a masterchef who uses a lot of spices when cooking soup, but knows exactly which ones to add to spice it up. 👌Greetings from Slovenia from Robert.🤗
This is cool i just used some (but not all) of these plugins on a vocal (with less extreme settings) and in particular the combination of the dimension D style chorus and Echo was a nice sympathetic combination in conjunction with EQ, Reverb and Compression
i think its quite obvious that the d setting in logic chorus turns of the mix knob and therefore should be used as a send here because we now listen to a 100% chorus on the vocal. stunned that this was not discovered by the creator.
Interesting point, but what surprises me is that apart from a compressor in the signal chain at the end, you don't use any at the beginning or have you already recorded so perfectly that the voice no longer needs compression? In my opinion, the corus is too strong and I would never use it like that. This alienates the voice extremely and is too modern for me. That means it sounds like all the modern sounds of voices that you hear today and that unfortunately all sound the same. Still very exciting
Really cool Can't wait to try it. So a request. I just got signed to a label that does organic house/world music kinds of things. So I need to get some tips on working with "exotic" or unusual acoustic instruments.. mostly samples into a mix. Keep the "flavor and grit" of the instrument but get the whole thing sharp.
Streaky, this is probably a newbie question, but why did you create 3 separate buses for the vocal track between the reverb, delay, and doubler? I assume it's to control the mix send for each separate effect chain. Just trying to understand the method of having the initial effect chain on the vocal track...then the additional effect chains on the 3 buses.
Great tutorial Streaky. Thank you for this, but a little feedback here - it would have been more applicable if you had music in the session so we could hear what it sounds like in the mix.. maybe an updated video in the next one? Cheers pal Jamaal
I really like what you did & you showed how to use them to so helpful but the last plugin seemed like it didn’t do much the doubler but I’m looking in to buying plugins for my voice for hip hop cuz I’m tired of the logic plugins 😂 but this showed me more about plugins you can buy and how to mix better maybe you can do a video on plugins
To be honest I much prefer the dry vocals. IMO way too much FX and stereo processing for a lead vocal. Makes it sound watery and lose texture. You could also mention that you're starting out with already processed vocals and not raw. I like your other vids tho.
This processing is Obviously for Chorus parts of the mix..... we're you expecting a Rap style mix? I can understand you, however Not every vocals are mixed the same way. I find it very Good if you do this style of mix for melodic chorus, and use Dry vocals for verses.
@@potatochipappi For choruses you would normally add doubles and harmonies and pan them for more width. It all depends on taste of course, and there is no "right or wrong". I'm comparing to the conventional professional standard on chart music.
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I would say 90% of the quality comes from the vocalist and the quality of the recording. Effects are only the cherry on top. This should be a disclaimer in such videos 😂
> - sounds really harsh - Ever hear of the Lennon FX? Copy / shift the vocal track 35ms - pan and adjust volume to taste. Further, sending vocals to busses of Sound Toys - 1 bus echo the other bus hard plugins - and mixing in parallel will keep the singer sounding alive with presence and impact.
i have a couple questions here. 1. i always see your vocals u mix in stereo format, i thought you always wanted to mix your vocals in mono? 2. isn't a reverb meant to be on a send, not directly on the track?
The main purpose of bussing the reverb is so that you can feed in multiple sources and have an even reverb effect. If you had some background vocals or wanted the exact same reverb for multiple instruments you would send it to a bus. He might have avoided that in this video for the sake of adding extra info. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with keeping a reverb on a vocal track though, you just have to be careful with the wet/dry since it is all on that one channel.
They aren't dry, they have invisible ambience. Short rooms mixed in low, short delays that are sent to short reverbs. Really quiet choruses or flanges that add depth.
what is optimal Db level for recording vocals, i know after mixing it should be 10 to -6 to leave headromm for mastering but what is püerfect input level? maybe -18db ?
Mixing vocals without music and beat makes no sense, these type of videos misguide a lot of freshers as they always try to copy chain. It would be better if you have shown this with complete tracks. BTW it is a good way to promote your plugin 😊
Hey can anyone answer this question for me.. are you supposed to record with your auto tune on or are you supposed to record it dry then add it? Any tips would be appreciated
You can do either. You can record through he plugin which means committing the effect. Or you just track through the plugin but the effect is not recorded this way gives you flexibility with the settings when mixing. It’s more common to do the second way and add as an effect, so you can get the vocal recording exactly how you want before adding tuning.
if you go for heavy auto-tune i'd have it on while recording for direct feedback, since you need to kinda use your voice in a different way to achieve it (singing out of tune)
Everything was great and it improved the vocal except I would really leave out step two. That one removed the soul and natural sound of the voice. For me that would only work if the if was going for some dance disco sound. I think the lesson is to not do so much processing that you loose the human emotion in vocals and instruments. I think that is the typical problem with many mixes today
