Just imagine being Paul hesitating saying it, knowing if he does he will send billions to their deaths and if he doesn't the Fremen will be destroyed by their beliefs and the Houses
Timothy did a good job showing the frustration and hesitation of calling for the jihad, knowing that the alternative of not doing it would be so much worse!
I think they are saving that last part of the sentence for part 3. As you can see, that last part would be an awesome start line for the movie. At least thats what i see@sawtooth808
Rebecca didn’t get alot of scenes, but whenever she appeared she stole the scenes.. such a captivating actor.. her acting is subtle yet precise.. when Chani yelled at her “you did it”, Jessica was like “bitch you didn’t
It reminds me of the way she snarls out "You will see... the beauty and the horror!" to Paul right after she awakes from becoming Reverend Mother. Chilling.
I don’t understand her attitude during the whole movie, what was she on? What’s so special she saw or knew was coming, only her, a young girl with pretty face, and nobody else?
@@ojneverdidit22 she was a fremen, but renounced religion. The fremen are very reminescent of the arab states during the western ocupation, with a freedom movement divided by religion. She loved the fremen, agnostic Paul/Usul, but despised the tirany of the Lisan al Gaib and the ambition of the Atreides duke. Despite that, she keeps fighting alongside Paul for he is the only chance to free Arrakis. She can stand that, but when she maries Irulan, it's enought for her.
@@eduardopadilla6876 it’s such a small, unrealistic reason. You fight for years, forced to live in a sand, robbed of treasure of your planet, so you fight for many years. Then you meet a man, good man, good heart, good fighter, smart, he doesn’t beg, doesn’t demand, he earns everything he is given. He has power, visions. He’s not a simple man, he is there to rule, conquer the conquerors, take revenge for his family. He drank some shi* that was supposed to kill him, but he survived and can see future now. Your people want to believe he is the one, so they call him some name and follow him. SO WHAT??????????????? What’s so TERRIBLE about it???? He just won a fkin war for you! He is THE man! And you have to b*tch about some SH*T?? Let me tell you what it is exactly.
I remember there being some moments where Gurney doesn’t need to bow aswell, he knew that paul had to manipulate their religious beliefs to weaponize them against the harkonnens and was encouraging paul tofollow through when Paul was actively still trying to avoid that path
Doubt Irulan is that important to him, it's just her standing symbolises that she's the only person on almost equal footing after his ascendancy, even the Emperor bows because he knows he has lost
Because he has gone further as his visions and couldn't turn it back. He can only try to finish what he has started, although in the books, it was his son Leto II who "finished" his Jihad.
@@peetwitechnically the jihad was the beginning of the golden path, Paul just didn’t have the stomach to follow through. The whole point of the golden path was to permanently integrate a strong mistrust in central authority into humanity through tyranny so that they scattered to every corner of the universe, ensuring humanities survival.
This choice of music was perfect, its not hopeful, or inspiring, its not a rallying cry, or victorious. Its sorrowful and mournful. The perfect song for Paul's greatest atrocitie.
@@HeretixAevum hes right but also wrong. theres many things that do not make sense in the movie sense its supposed to be an adaptation of the book. Great movies overall for the book, but many many things are wrong/missing.
When he looks back at Chani and sees her leave in disappointment and then he just puts his head down in sorrow was one of my favourite parts of this movie I don’t know why just gave me chills lol
I like how well Irulan recognizes and even seems to almost empathize with(?) Chani. She sees her and understands. Such a sneaky intelligence. She's gonna be something in the future films
1:46 The shivers I felt when I saw that flicker of a smirk from Jessica as Paul begins the jihad. Rebecca Ferguson's portrayal of Reverend Mother Jessica was chilling and spectacular
@@lanusaxnailed it. These two narrowly escaped extinction, death by water of life, and two duels for Paul’s life. With no love for the spacing guild or those who conspired against them. “Time for my enemies to know my dread”
Paul - "I just took out the most feared army in the universe with my own fighting force and claim the throne. Which means I (theoretically) control the second greatest fighting force in the universe (what's left of them)." Great Houses- "Yea, no we'll fight you anyways"
@@MetalGearChris1They knew, and they were realistically confident they can fight them, what they didnt know was that their general can see the future. They never stood a chance to begin with.
@@sentientmustache8360 matter the fact 20.000 fedyakin is enough to take down hundreds of worlds due to they have Weirding way fighting style that make them move super human speed
In the books, Paul sees Stilgar rallying the Fremen to board the ships and reflects, sadly, that the man Stilgar was has been entirely subsumed by a fanatic loyal to Paul.
I'm a recovering fentanyl addict and I think this movie was the first experience of joy and bliss I found since my last hit. That's how good this movie was.
Good on you brother. I hope your biology finds its way back to "YOUR humanity" and you live a life that sees inspiring "hits" naturally to fulfill your path
Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but at 0:32 Paul turns but stops and looks back towards Gurney, as if he's thinking internally 'I've seen this. They're about to tell me the great houses refuse to honour my ascendancy'
@@dball_94 that's a continuing theme in the books that I'm glad Villaneuve got across. Paul's son has a more powerful prophetic ability than Paul does, and basically tells a follower "I pray for a universe filled with surprise! But my prayers are rarely answered."
The knowledge Paul has that not one of the Fremen warriors he is sending off to War that day will ever be alive to see The Green Paradise nor there descendants for the next 3,000 something years
@@carlosandleonhe means, storywise from the books, that paul not only keep arrakis as this sand land fief but also leaves it to his son to do some shenanigans and almost waping out all life form from the planet till the scattering (this last thing need some more lore explanation)
Chalamet does an incredible job here. Paul is so defeated, so resigned, because he's seen this exact scene before. None of this is new to him. Its so tragic. DV does an amazing job conveying every moment, and Zimmer's absolutely breathtaking score just elevates it all.
In a sense Chani not just represents Chani here, she has in essence become what the Fremen have lost by following Paul, that purity. That is why that end scene is so powerfull, Chani still klings to the ways of the desert, while most of her people have turned from warriors into mindless fanatics. They have sold their soul in order to get their dream. To be honest , that ending works better here then the ending in the book. Who ever wrote this script, just hand him or her the Oscar. Don’t bother going through the ceremony 😁
I heard one good line of review “The moment Paul know the future, he became a slave to it, to reach the victory he saw, he must follow it path without mistake, not even a single blink” “Lead them to paradise” Paul knew, oh he knew the irony of that line, but yet again, he knew the future. And now is a slave to it
Paul and Chani and Irulan staring at each other without saying a word yet still sets up a great 'love' triangle and conveys a thousand words, love the visual storytelling.
No fremen understood -at that time- that reaching a GREEN PARADISE wil absolutely destroy all their culture, traditions and way of life... that to me is big tragedy in a story full of them
Their way of life is surviving in scarcity and trying not to die from the harkonnens, and they are sick of it, they want revenge, they wouldve went to jihad anyway even if paul ordered to stay.
And the “Green Paradise” comes back to bite The Fremen (and let’s be honest the Navigator Guild) in the 🍑 in a very big way in “Children of Dune”…but I’m getting a little too ahead of myself.
That's a very "white privilege" perspective. Their "way of life" was miserable, living on the edge of survival. It's like wanting Native American Indians to still live in teepees. Here, the "white privilege" perspective is to want the Fremen to live in caves in the desert, preserving every drop of water, and pissing into a body suit. It's a romanticization of an extremely difficult way of life, and ignores the idea that people who live in such miserable conditions would actually want something better for themselves, like to have normal indoor plumbing that delivers running water, to be able to take a shower, etc. For the Fremen, that way of life is born out of fire necessity, while the privileged outsider thinks that it is a "tragedy" that these people can finally live in better conditions. And for the story to ultimately portray this sea change (sorry the pun) as a bad thing is like saying to a Native America Indian, "See? You shoulda never left the reservation."
That's a very privileged perspective. The Fremen "way of life" was a miserable existence on the edge of survival where they literally lived in caves in the desert and pissed into body suits so the could drink their own piss. The privileged perspective is to romanticize this way of life. But would *you* like to live this way? It's like wanting people to live in poverty and hardship because *you* think it looks cool, but it ignores the idea that people who actually live in such dire situations would love to have a much better life just like everyone else on other worlds. This romanticization of their "way of life" is like wanting Native American Indians to still live in teepees or huts with no running water and no electricity, and thinking that leaving this way of life would be a ”tragedy." That ideology usually comes from people who've never lived in poverty, hardship and struggle. It's a very privileged perspective. Not much about the Fremen way of life is actually as cool as you think it is from the outside. Sure, they road sandworms. But riding sandworms was a dangerous thing. It wasn't like hopping into a car. And it's not like you can just come home and take a shower after riding a sandworm and being covered in sand. As for cultures and traditions, those things change over time. It happens here in our world too. Think of what cultures and traditions might have existed in any of our societies a couple hundred years ago vs today. A *lot* changes in any culture or society just with the natural progression of time.
This ending is EPIC. And that last shot on Chani is everything. The way she is holding her tears because Fremen do not waste water no matter what. What great acting.
I truly believe no where near enough people realize the power in the moment he looks back at Chani. Sorrow, regret, pain, guilt for what he has become had to be. Yet the stare of omnipotence, for when you see all, you can no longer be in the present; I think it’s this he feels.
“I have to admit that without the Fremen it would not have been a victory.” “Victory? Victory, you say? Daughter Alia, no victory. The shroud of the Mahdi has fallen. Begun, the holy war has.”
1:32 - It's kinda poetic that the first time I heard bells used in a Dune-related soundtrack was in the game Dune 2000, in the track "The Atreides Gain" by Frank Klepacki, an eerie, sinister piece that definitely did not cater to the notion of a "good guy" faction.
Dude I didn’t catch that one but I did notice a couple brief moments earlier in the movie that reminded me of D2K tracks. Love love love Frank Klepacki’s work in both Dune II and D2K
Also the snorkels used by the fremen wen digged in into the sand reminded me to the Dune 2 cover. It pleased me a lot to see that little detail, even if not intended. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_II
I was already on the edge of my seat for a majority of this movie, but when Paul said the words "lead them to paradise" my jaw just dropped from the excitement and the utter fear and despair knowing what that implies
The most tragic part of Paul's story: By the end, nobody truly loves him. His father and Chani were the only ones whose love was focused on him as a person. His mother wants the kwisatz haderach; Gurney wants his Atreides Duke and vengeance; Stilgar wants his messiah. In the end they get what they want and are content with the hollow shell that Paul has become, and who cares that he's in emotional agony?
that music and the Clone Wars-esque shot of the transports lifting off hits me right in the heart. Millions of troops, on their way to die for beliefs not their own.
I cried of how out of the loop and bad this ending was. Totally unjustified with the scale of the events of the movie and emphasizing the worst cast in the movie...
The irony of the Sardaukar is that they're absolutely the elite... in conventional warfare. Conventional warfare in Dune requires shields and close combat weaponry, with the killing blow being slowed down to pierce the shield. Shields can't be used on Arrakis due to the worms being drawn to them. Thus, these experts in shielded melee combat are completely incapable of dealing with foes who are used to unshielded combat in the desert. This is why the Emperor had to be lured to Arrakis: On their home ground where they could use standard tactics, the Sardaukar would win, just like when they stormed the Atreides estate. It was only by bringing them out in the desert where all of their advantages were neutralized could the Fremen win. Striking where your enemy is weakest and you are strongest is the most fundamental principles of strategic warfare, and Paul was taught very well by his mentors.
Throughout the movie every time Stilgar said "Lisan al Gaib" it was mostly played for comedic effect causing a bit a laughter in the audience. Paul could have farted in front of him "Lisan al Gaib!" But at 1:21 not one person laughed in the theater, Stilgar was ready to kill and die for his belief in the Lisan al Gaib.
A lot of people online seem to think it’s dumb that Stilgar was played for comedic effect, but I actually thought it was an interesting idea to use him specifically. Fanaticism can seem silly or funny to onlookers at its most innocent, but as we see in this film, it can quickly become dangerous, and in some ways, tragic.
@@rorschach221 Agreed. Just look at any video of most devout religious people. To us they seem like fanatics and we may even laugh at them for looking silly but to them they are 110% sure that their faith is absolute and nothing will convince them otherwise.
There was something so powerful seeing the emperor kneel and then everyone else in his court kneel then the entire room… It was the moment that the house of Atreides ascended the throne… And the start of unspeakable crimes against the human race to be committed by our hero…
"The Holy War begins". And to think how much Corrino and Harkonnen destroyed. Can't wait for Dune's Messiah or Dune: Part Three to see Muad'dib Crusade. I swear this movie... is a warning where our world goes.
This movie is a piece of art, overall. There are several scenes that are magnificent, but this one in particular has it all. That moment when Chani and Paul is shocking, Paul knows that Chani is hurt and not because she chose to marry Irulan, but because she became what she didn't say she wouldn't be. Although Paul knows that a future Chani will understand, he still doesn't let to be hurt by the fact of the damage that is being done to him. Before Paul I say his "Lead them to paradise". He feels the sadness, the guilt and the remorse he feels, because the price of avenging his father is very high, it means the death of billions of people, it is the price he must pay to avenge his parents and to save his son. home. It really is a spectacle of acting... without words
The attention to detail, stunning visuals, screenwriting, musical genius and great acting that went into this is simply absurd. And of course, the original material itself. But how it all came together in this specific scene, where we witness Paul go down a path that will lead to untold death and destruction, is absolute peak storytelling. The payoff to the audience is off the charts - I have never seen a movie do it like this.
One of the most powerful scenes and music score I’ve ever seen. Just a perfect combination of cinematography, acting, music and timing. Gives me chills every time.
The scene was great but the background soundtrack is just phenomenal!! Hans Zimmer The Maestro! always understands the task, he always knows what to do! 🥺😭🔥🤝💯🎉💪🙏
This movie did a superb job at capturing the hopelessness of the jihad and the plot that had been set in motion. I think Herbert would have been pleased that his original vision was so reverently respected.
“I want you to know, I will love you as long as I breathe.” Given what he knows he will do, one of the most tragic lines in any movie, surpassed by “lead them to paradise” delivered in a devastatingly defeated way. Chalamet deserves an Oscar.
The music and vibes of this movie man!!!! I shit on dune for 2 years without watching it or knowing anything about it except for what my friends told me. Last week i watched dune 1 and in the same day dune 2. I've watched dune 1 five times and dune 2 twice. I love rhis franchise now. Omg. Havent read the books and idk if i will. Videos I've seen say the movie differs in some key things and i love the movies.
To me the movies do keep the central themes, it's just that the books have a lot of inner monologues, that you can't really pull off on the big screen. Dune is incredibly allegorical and Dennis has kept to the key themes; to know the future is to be trapped by it, and the danger of combining politics and religion.
@@Ecthelion842 " it's just that the books have a lot of inner monologues, that you can't really pull off on the big screen." - The SCi-Fi. miniseries is a FAR better version, far more faithful to the books. This version is all flash, no substance.
@@Mixam-256 Mini-series Dune had a fraction of the production budget of new Dune yet was still far more faithful to the books and was actually watchable, (nowhere near as boring), versus new Dune with moody Emo-Paul. But this is modern day audiences - it's all about the "looks" and "sounds" of a movie, not the actual story...
For me genuinely the greatest movie ending of all time. Such a mix of triumph, heartbreak, and defeat all at the same time. You shouldn't be happy about the holy war beginning but it's impossible to not get caught up in the fervour like Stilgar while simultaneously feeling the fear and regret of Chani.
People hate Zendaya and the script change from the book..upon reviewing..this may be the most epic last take of any sci-fi..all the actors brought it and upon the 5th viewing..I teared up
It's remarkable how Villeneuve and Co. managed to seamlessly turn the initial catharsis of the finale into horror and tragedy. When I saw this in a theater for the first time, I wasn't able to fully comprehend and feel what was happening. On each repeat viewing, it hits even harder. What a movie. Bring on Dune: Messiah.
I think deep down Paul was hoping that the houses would honor his ascent and there would be no need for further blood shed, but when they reject him, he decides the only path forward is the Holy War. “Lead them to paradise”
Hans POURED his Soul into The ENTIRE Score but my Lisan Al Gaib does it Show in this Track Been listening since March 12 when I saw this masterpiece for the first time in 70mm
I love how Paul instinctively looks back at Gurney. That look of “They’re about to tell me that the great houses refuse to honor my ascendency”, because he has seen how this plays out. He knew. Hence the look on his face, that almost depressed look, because even though he knows how it is all going to play out, he is essentially powerless to stop it.
I understood all the changes made for the movie save 2, both involving Chani. When Paul took the Water of Life and Chani had to be forced to save him; and when she walked out at the end. What is even more fascinating to me, as regards the entire Dune saga, is how Herbert wrote how a "God Emperor was required to ensure the survival of humanity. So, a book meant to warn us about the dangers of a savior progressed to requiring a dictatorial savior. It was a good movie, though.
What really got me was the shot of the Fremen burning the Harkonnen bodies. They used to harvest each corpse for water since their culture revered it as an invaluable resource. By the end of the movie, they couldn't care less and just razed the corpses. It shows the death of the Fremen as a culture to make way for the religious fanatics that will carry-on Paul's genocidal jihad.
Villeneuve is trying to say the Fremen are just tools of Paul, in the same way the Harkonnens are tools of the Baron - who did the same thing at the start of the film, sooo clever
Did you even read the books? Converting Water of Life from Sandworm death-bile gave Paul such prescience powers that he now saw past, present, and future, all of them. And when he was speaking about "narrow way through" he wasn't talking about his conquest, He was talking about future of humanity itself. He saw that unless something changes, humanity would be soon wiped out; because Corrino Empire (simply Old Empire) was still small enough to be ruled by single family and with strong caste society, it was weak against universal threats, and also because of inherent weakness of human nature. He saw golden path which bade him to take control of humanity as a whole through Spice production, Fremen Jihad, taking control of Bene Geserit breeding programs and all other things. It was actually his son who will be able to complete it, because Paul in the end refused to shed his humanity and choose to go into dessert to join his beloved concubine. I will not spoil it more, you can read all of it in wiki.
@@Definitelylnterested The Golden Path wasn't revealed fully to Paul until Dune Messiah, and was only explicitly mentioned in Children of Dune first. The first book only had very vague hints of where the path would lead, so ultimately Paul's motivation was still primarily just to overthrow house Corrino and Harkonnen, rather than the scattering of humanity.
@@gracecalis5421 Maybe, but I have always considered books, any books or movies or games, as a whole; retroactively trying to find connections and things that seemed to be consequences of previous actions or inactions of characters and world around them; Dune has been hitting me right in the feels since I first saw it, and I am still raving about part 2🤭
