but it's actually makes sense.. since the enviroment shapes the being. Imagine growing in such place, no wonder these people so unhuman both inside and outside.
@@Alvaro89RusFurthermore they pretty much got screwed by the Atreides when they tried to do the right thing long ago, they probably thought "yep no good deed goes unpunished" and decided that being completely selfish in their goals is the way to go.
@@justiniano9906there’s just such a difference in watching it on a massive movie screen with the audio in a theater and watching it at home on a 70 inch tv with home surround sound. At home Dune Part 2 and even Part 1 is just a movie. In the theater it’s an experience. It’s more like a 3 hour attraction at a theme park than it is a movie when you see it on the big screen
I screamed that when I was under totality during the eclipse. Crazy thing thing is, when you are right under totality, it actually does go black and white like this, albeit its like at dusk, not bright like this. During totality, you're only getting infrared light.
@@hiraeth195 To the normal persons vision Giedi Prime's sun is literally black because it emits mostly infrared light, this is why Harkonnens are so pale, they lack normal sunlight. For viewing experience everything is made white, because it is filmed by infrared cameras. But in reality scene should be almost black, with just slightly faint red tint because Giedi Prime's sun emits, not much, red visible light. "But why prisoners cover their eyes when walking out?", I think it is to stress the dark hole they were put in prison. If slight red tint is so blinding to them, normal person cannot even start to imagine the darkness they were put in both physically and metaphorically. P.S. that is why Harkonnens walk in these absurd black space suits during the day on Arrakis, such harsh sun is toxic to them. Also, Harkonnens attacked Arrakis during night and then they did not wear these black spacesuits because they felt themselves comfortable in the night. "But Feyd-Rautha walked without suit during attack on sietch Tabr!", well he's psychotic and masochist, of course he did not wear any protection, he enjoyed the pain. It is harder to explain Baron and Rabban, but that is most likely a concession for visual experience.
It's a real horror. Herbert never really elaborated on Geidi Prime much, and the director has a vision here that is so terrifying, it's got OSCAR written all over it.
@@2kbk926 That's what I thought at first. But the artist who designed Geidi Prime said the inspiration was actually based on 'septic tank', because they interpret Harkonens as some kind of dirty animals / insects, like cockroaches or rats who deserve to live in such a thing. As weird as it sounds, it really does looks like septic tanks. Try google it.
Villenueve using infrared cameras to film this sequence was great. Very cool effect on the big screen for a environment scene like this. Sicario is the only other film I can think of that has used infrared cameras to film. Wish him luck with getting nominated.
best thing in IMAX was when they were under the harvester. i could feel the mechanic sounds going through my body and move me in my seat. who needs 4dfx if the sound can move you lol
01:49 Even their version of fireworks is completely opposite to ours. It's like massive raindrops filled with squid ink or gray waste hitting a window or a barrier. The Harkonnen oppression is like entire population of Giedi Prime being put in a giant petri dish
god this whole scene is like one big homage to HR Giger's depiction of Giede prime from the jodorosky adaptation that never came to be, this whole scene is beautiful
You nailed it, makes me wish Denis spent more screen time on the Guild, maybe that is next. Giger would be amazed and inspired by this scene. What an influence that man is.
Tbf, the Jodorsky version deserved to get canned. Charlotte Rampling (Reverend Mother Mohiam in this version) was actually cast as Lady Jessica in the Jodorsky version, but quit because of a scene which called for 2,000 actors to poop simultaneously. That’s not a joke.
@@bsgfan1 I’m guessing jodorosky was going to make lady Jessica force 2,000 fremen shit themselves on command using the voice lmao Imagine the smell
@@ohdahngboi_2237 That was just one of many crazy ass things Jodorsky planned lmao. That 14 hour runtime didn’t help either. I get Dune can be a bit weird sometimes, but Jodorsky’s was just a straight up fever dream 🤣
After so many years of watching Marvel movies breaking immersion with world building with obnoxious humor, it's so satisfying to actually watch a film that immerses its audience within its world and builds an absolutely incredible atmosphere.
Imagine a first date on Geidi Prime. "Hey, I really like you, your bald head and nearly obsidian eyes look amazing. Maybe this weekend we could go catch the gladiatorials of our glorious Na-Barron Feyd Rautha?" (Delivered as if your asking them out to coffee)
Other than specifying that they're bald - which is just natural for Harkonnens, apparently - and describing Feyd as "glorious" (which is already implied, all these people are nuts), that's likely word-for-word how it'd actually go.
Feels like 40K and Riddick probably because that stuff was deeply inspired by Dune themselves. Riddick featured its own "weirding way" and the Furyans being its own equivalent to the Fremen. 40K... Well, God Emperor of an Imperium and fanatical legions crusading across the universe and all that jazz. I think Rick Priestley himself has cited God Emperor of Dune as the inspiration when he developed the setting of 40K.
It stuck with me. I'll give it that. It looks so alien yet so real. So believable. It's hard to not think about. But the sandworm riding scene, all the action, the confrontation at the end, the ending fight and Paul sending them to "paradise" all easily top this in objective quality. This would just pure world building and it is breathtaking.
I love how their society revolves around a kind of sadistic opulence based wholly on domination--of both people and the natural world. The Harkonnens being the epitome of 'cruelty-for-cruelty's-sake' is perfectly represented in this film.
This is the Star Wars of this generation, and everyone who was fortunate to see this in IMAX (like my self) definitely knows how this scene felt. The horn in the shot where Feyd is revealed came like a jump scare!
Geidi Prime was said to be an industrial wasteland, mixed with some features of ancient Rome, IIRC from the novel. This scene gives it a massive Warhammer 40K vibe, which is perfect for the Harkonnen homeworld.
0:38 the way the crowd moves is so creepy and unnerving, it makes you think they are almost forced to do this. It kind of reminds how in North Korea whenever the dictator dies they all have to cry as hard as they can, or else. On Giedi Prime, they have to go along with the chants and move like that, or else.
I get what you mean. The Harkonnen’s aesthetic, cruelness and conformity makes me think of a society that exists if Nazi Germany won the war. Harkonnens look the same, as if they achieved a “master race”.
In the books i am pretty sure it is said they love Their house cuz they dragged their planet in to wealth and power even if it was a cruel method. as the other guy said similar to the Nazis, they were insane but the germans accepted them cuz they gave Germany “rebirth”. The ends justify the means
When this scene happened in the book, the population was forced to attend the arena fight, but by the end of it they’re rushing the arena to lift Feyde up on their shoulders and parading him around like a hero. The Baron even remarks that he could walk around unshielded in the poorest districts of Harko and people would happily give him their last bit of food just to have him come into their homes
I doubt they’re forcing them to dance, seeing how the harkonen soldiers acted in the last movie I’m pretty sure the entire planet is just as sick as the harkonens themselves
It's because Geidi Prime orbits a K-Type Brown dwarf in a trinary star system. The light they get is high in infrared. Hence you get actual color and human skin tone in the shadows, and when in the star light you see black/white because it's infrared.
It's not physically possible though. White light is the combination of the other colors. It's not possible to look like this. It's very artistic, which is nice but not real.
@@JumboMceal it is if shot on film. This is IR film. Not CG. IR film exposes in B&W. It can be colorized but that takes computer help to map the images and light reflections to make a depth map then they can reconstruct. I agree it IS cinematic, but it IS IR film.
@@JumboMceal I mean it would look like that if we were able to see in infrared, but yeah stars like that don't exist irl. that's why it's science fiction, not science fact.
I like how they say something like "home" instead of house. It shows that even with how alien the language sounds there is still some familiarity hidden in it.
Both are phrases which, incidentally, were used by the Nazis. One alone might not be a coincidence but I think both back-to-back send a different message.
@@undefinedhuman7404 Funny, people haven't been calling me a Nazi on a regular basis regardless of what I do. I wonder what it is you're saying that makes people say that about you.
That was phenomenal. It shows me that the Bene Gesserit robes aren't actually black but a dark color. And since the black sun sucks all the color out of anything, the robes turning white was a great visual
It's because Geidi Prime orbits a K-Type Brown dwarf in a trinary star system. The light they get is high in infrared, so that's why when in the dark hallways you can still see everyone still has pigment (even the Harpies skin tone), but when walking into the sunlight they get bathed in infrared light, changing the visible color tone.
@@jaywhite15_ALyup i have been saying something similar all though not to your precision. Also i read that one guy said "no auch stars exist" but a simple google search revealed otherwise because until recently, those stars were "invisible" to us.
Many other scifi films have similar scenes of a gladiator arena (Star Wars - Attack of the Clones, for example), so the concept isn't new, but none can reach DUNE's level of AWESOMENESS. It's the immersive cinematography and how it takes its time to show every detail and let you live and breath this planet and its ambience. Reminds me of old classic films like Alien. You actually feel like you are there.
I am Peruvian, I don't know if it was necessary to mention that, but I must say that I have read all the comments from every English speaker who saw this scene and I agree with each of them, I consider the Harkonen planet one of the worst places to live, manages to convey a hostile and inhuman atmosphere in every moment of the arena, both the citizens who are excited to see and the Atreid prisoners fight for their lives even being unjustly drugged, as well as the high nobility which is already saying a lot with Vladimir, really This planet is horrible.
I totally agree with you. Nothing about this planet looks pleasant. Even later when Margot goes into her guest bedroom there is absolutely nothing inviting or hospitable about it.
The design is so well thought out. I think its no coincidence that the shape of the tower where the baron hovers is essentially the shape of the bene gesserit clothes in their robes and veil. And when the camera zooms in on it, it cuts back to lea seydous character.
Another interesting subversion is that despite having the most brutal, violent and primal culture out of all the Great Houses, the Harkonnen are also the richest and probably have the most technologically advanced military (to be fair, the Ix are more advanced but are far smaller).
This Planet is truly like what a part of Humanity could look like in 20k years. Humanity evolves in such a radical way they no longer resemble their ancestors.
It was worth terrible past adaptations and the long, long wait to get what we got in the end. So worth the wait. Thanx to everyone involved in these recent films. Incredible.
This is the "Sardaukar throat singing" of the second movie. One of those super unique scenes that spawn their own fanbase. Villeneuve is taking Herbert's work to another level.
this must be the most terrifying science fiction plantet and people i have ever seen, everything about this just screem brutality, also, watching this with dolby atmos was a goddamn expierence!
_Khenes skah ii la khum! (Khenes ssah ii la khum)_ _Khum khum skah khu! (Khum khum skah khu)_ _Vala drah ha kuh drah! (Valas drah ha kuh drah)_ _Khum khum kwaah khu! (Khum khum kwaah khu)_ _Khenes diiya kuss u drah (Khenes diiya kuss u drah)_ _Khum khum fye-su gah! (Khum khum fye-su gah)_ _Fye-su gah khenes ghu! (Fye-su gah khenes ghu)_ welcome to Geidi Prime sisters, I hope your travels were agreeable ... ... these fights are all for show, but we'll get a good look at him *Dikan-hu burus fiyah, FEYD RAUTHAAAAA!* _BWAAAAAA..._
@@rolandjuricek5583 Listening keenly and repeatedly with head/earphones. Announcer: Lektīs klądäındızī hakkindrō Klaxidā exe dra'ūstilakt: Tfe ba'ū, Vladīm Hakkuye! I copied the above from a comment from this video: youtube. com / watch?v= JM6qDh5uVmk (remove the spaces) If you scroll through the comments you'll find different versions transcribed by other people.
@rolandjuricek558 Listening keenly and repeatedly with head/earphones. Announcer: Lektīs klądäındızī hakkindrō Klaxidā exe dra'ūstilakt: Tfe ba'ū, Vladīm Hakkuye! I copied the above announcer script from a comment from this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JM6qDh5uVmk.html If you scroll through the comments you'll find different versions transcribed by other people.
I saw the movie on release day, nearly cried from how beautiful and terrifying everything about this scene was, and immediately tried to find it on RU-vid when I got home only to discover no upload of it yet. Fine. It was JUST released after all. But when I tell you I searched day after day after week after week and only NOW is there a full upload? I spent those weeks tortuously trying to remember everything about it while listening to the soundtrack. Even my imagination couldn’t compare to the actual thing now that I’m finally able to watch it. This is art.
I imagine Bob to Rob in Giedi Prime while going to buy the cigarettes: Hey bob? Yes Rob? Are we the baddies Bob ? I dont know, Rob. Look at our black Sun while shanting our Ork song
Giedi Prime is renamed Gammu and Gurney rules the planet. He wanted to remove as much Harkonnen industry as possible on the planet, and I’m pretty sure some genocide is involved with both Fremen and Gurney wanting revenge
