One of the strong points about this film was the set design. All practical sets for interiors and some exterior shots. Very little blue or green screen, and still stunning to look at even today.
It shows, the sets and models remain stunning, the fake 'explosions' and other special effects not so much, The shields are a toss up, though super high tech then they are dated now
naaa. They simply remade the 1984 in fancier dresses. And googles thinking machines with their algorithms, will make sure the 1984 die in their minds as nobody but those already in the know will find it.
Damn it, watched nearly every Edit Version, just saw this on my recommendation feed and decided to just sneak in for a few minutes because I wanted to go to sleep. Ended up watching the whole thing. Great work and much appreciated. Thank you!
I have been a fan from my first reading of Dune back in 1976. I've seen all the various productions, and I've enjoyed each one on it's own merits. This is a really interesting production with history behind Dune which I've never heard... deeply appreciated.
So much rich detail that ended up cut out of the theatrical release . Thanks for your hard work filling in many gaps Lynch was forced to leave out. Really enjoyed this 😉
Fell across this by accident - long time Dune film fan, this had a lot more going on than the version I'm used to and included a lot of cool stuff that was in the book. Excellent stuff.
Seriously this is one of my all time favourite movies. Fantastic movie, fantastic cast, fantastic story, fantastic world, fantastic costumes .. arghhh .. just an all round fantastic classic science fiction movie. Love it. Thank you so much.
WTF are you on about? How is this excellent work? Time and effort? What to cut out scenes? Is that something to be proud of ? . Talk about the 'Emperor Padeshah's New Clothes' !
At the time of the first theatrical release, I'd read someone says the Director's First Cut was much longer than 4hours 40minutes. I don't know it for sure, but if it does exist, somebody should bring it out before I leave this planet. I really mean it!
Not unusual for Sci-Fi of the era: there is reportedly 16-24 hours of establishing shots and such from Blade Runner that RS has chosen never to release. It's pretty common in all film though to alter the story in the editing process, which is why we get a lot of 'goofs' about props moving position, the level of liquids in cups, positioning of characters limbs or accessories, etc... Differently, the prologue sounds familiar/quoted text, but wasn't the Mentat School basically just as important as the Bene Gesserit and the Guild right after the Butlerian Jihad (I think even a 4th school is mentioned in the prequel novels which trained the likes of Idaho)?
Thanks to all the people who continue to work on this so special movie picture after all these years the movie first came out on screen. 40 today, I was about 7 when I saw it on the big screen for the first time, and it is still passionately burning me of love for science-fiction and for english language which I've learned thanks to Frank Herbert and all the other great science-fiction novelists !=) For all the dreamers to awake and for the cinamon lovers :)
you must mean 33 years, as in it came out in 84 and its 2017. anywho this is a work of pure love. this makes it a Dune movie. in fact, The Dune movie. that awesome weird version that feels like an acid trip at times. but also a relentlessly close adaptation. If this is any evidence, David Lynch didnt fuck u, the damn made made the far out Dune we always wanted. the only real flaws that stay are the mind crushingly awful special effects at times. even the "bad" choices like the stillsuits and stuff, can just be accepted in the way Jodorowsky fans want all the weird and completely non-book things that he wrote to happen. In fact Jodo's version would have been waaay off the books in terms of plot and logic. it thats what you want to get mad about. now i'd love Jodo's 14 hour version too, but given space to actually tell the story, DL really did. and his way too. Now let's see the new version be the first to not implode on itself, or look cheap as shit (the scfy version)!
Meh, this is crappy. The added parts are just redundant, like that silly intro. Not only is it redundant to the Virginia Madsen intro, but it actually repeats itself.
+R3dp055um The "Prologue" is a little bit stupid, BUT it explains the history of this universe and how it became what it is ... why there are no computers. It is a necessary explanation for noobs who havent read the book. The narrative of it is extremely stupid and should probably have been redone for this version (recording audio isnt that hard and you dont really need to be that much of an expert voice actor for it). This prologue was one of the reasons why the director of the "TV version" is Alan Smithee and not David Lynch. Waiting with the "Prologue information" until they are used in this version is too late for noobs.
Mark Fudge I haven't seen the original. Am I correct in assuming that the major change is in the form of voiceovers explaining what things on screen are and what each character thinks of the situation?
There are about 4 official versions and one has the added intro with the drawings. All movies have the 'narration' in one form or another. The way this version is edited is a far cry from the official ones and is easier to digest and even enjoyable. Specially because the introduction continues after the credits. The exposition is much more fluent and not a lengthy history lesson.
and with the liberation of arakis, spice production came to a standstill. while muad dib was still indulging in happiness, the space guild, space travel and with it the entire empire collapsed. arakis became a small insignificant planet with massive resource problems, as there wasn't much there besides water and sand. That's the real end of the story.
I love this movie. When I saw her in 1989 she left me shocked. For several days I was meditating on its complexities. I regret not having gone to see the day of its release, someone told me it was not worth it. Thanks for uploading it! ______________________ Amo esta película. Cuando la vi en 1989 me dejo shokeado. Por varios dias me quede meditando en sus complejidades. Me arrepiento de no haberla ido a ver el día de su estreno, alguien me dijo que no valia la pena. Gracias por subirla!
Great edit. Thanks. Before the end critics roll, there should be a final title card saying: "After Pauls's ascension to the throne, the Fremen embarked on a holy war against the houses of the landsraad, which lasted 12 years. Over 61 billion people refusing to bend the the knee to Paul Muad'dib were killed, 90 planets were completely neutralized, over forty different religions were wiped out, along with their followers and over ten thousand worlds were forced to join the Atreides Empire."
Those narrations of the original Jihad are hauntingly horrifying - especially alongside those artworks which really express those very same emotions. I mean 2 men trying to support the symbol of a religious Order that would purge the machines and their slaver masters and their allies from the Universe and succeed. Brilliant!
11:30 Navigators don't fold space, Holtzmann engines do that, navigators use prescience to make sure when they come out of the fold, they don't end up in the middle of a sun, or a planet.
@Luis Abreu well, in all honesty, is not clearly stated in original books. I guess it was part of the mystery Guild cloaked itself into, nobody knew. It only becomes clear in the prequels written by Brian Herbert, that deal with discovery of Holtzmann effect and Norma Cenva.
Actually in "Sisterhood of Dune" Norma Cenva is able to fold space using only her mind and travel to the Imperial palace to warn against Butlerian Jihadists destroying all technology... but that is an exception.
@@ionescuvaleriumanuel9694 I haven't got all the books written by the son yet, I stopped buying them after Sandworms of Dune I think, or whatever is the last book that actually closes the saga. He kept writing past that point, Paul of Dune, Jessica of Dune, haven't got those, sounds to me like he trying to milk the Dune name.
...which makes zero sense, btw, since the volume of empty space is way, way larger than the volume of stars and planets and the odds of that happening are ridiculously low.
This is kind of amazing. Compared to the book--best Sci-Fi novel of all time--it's genuinely tough to transform it into a movie. Dune 1984 has some amazing imagery, a very cool theme (go Toto!), and some other great features but it's always fallen short. Plus, David Lynch thought up all sorts of weirdness not even in the book. I must say, whoever edited this and pieced it all together, you made it better than the basic movie ever was. It's still not the book but what you've done to an already badly flawed movie is quite amazing and I truly enjoyed this version!
This was good. I only remembered the Navigator scene from when I watched it around 1995. You have my sincere thanks. Now I have to go back and watch the original again (or read the books again) to spot the differences.
Agreed. While it doesn't quite rectify all the voids and errors this film made in the saga it does go a long way to clearing up the basis if the universe it is set it.
1984 was a great year for movies. Saw so many amazing flicks in the theatre that year. Dune, The Terminator, The Karate Kid, Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Sixteen Candles, Beverly Hills Cop, A Nightmare On Elm Street, the Neverending Story, Revenge of the Nerds, Footloose, and so on.
In just a few words...you have done an excellent job, in my humble opinion better, much better than the original . film. Congratulations and many thanks for your fine work.
Although it contains still some unnecessary duplications, which I would cut, it is put in a much better order and puts in a lot helpful additional material which explains the story much better. I can only try to imagine how much work this was. Good job! So sad one cannot create additional/alternative material which would close some of the logical gaps and render some scenes more appealing...
One of the best sci fi series of books ever written and a good effort to make a film so authentic to the book, up to a point obviously. . I read them when i was young and always loved the film too. i Had never seen this or any other extended version its soo much better, I always thought it had been a bit cut up. Its a shame they cut down films for cinema time, i wonder how many other films have been ripped to shreds by editors. Would be great if they could make a remake and the other books as sequels . With say JJ Abrahams directing, with the special effects they have these days it would now be possible and amazing.
i think it is a perfect choice the way lynch showed the weirding ways. it is a great manner to imply that voice create energy. i hope in the new movie they stick to something elegant and not kung fu fights. dune is slow and relentless, not an action flick at all. its all about dialogues
20 years i didnt see Arakis.... thank you. Gladly this, than the incoming movie. I am still sad, it is too short. I didnt feel it as child, i feel it now. That is why series are needed.
i'm gonna give the new movie a solid chance, but you are right, a big budget series like Game of Thrones would be more suitable to tell this kind of story. They tried once on the space channel, but budget constraints were obvious, and casting was questionable.... it was too bright.
They are, and they exist since 2003 (scifi channel, two 'seasons' : Dune and Children of Dune, three 1h.30 episodes each), rather low budget, but closer to the books : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mRlAKJfRtRc.html
The irony is that it was regarded as a mess and yes it's not perfect but it's a really heavy sci-fi classic compared to all the crap out there recently.
This movie was made too early, because the deviation from the book - which everyone is mad about - comes in the second and third part ... the stupid "magic modules" ... but that was a necessity, because the whole idea was that the Fremen were completely superior martial artists ... and it is HARD to actually show that kind of superiority in a movie AND it is hard/expensive to train a large group of non-speaking-actors to be able to do it. So they chose a "replacement superiority" for the movie instead. Additionally the whole war with the Harkonnens would have taken a lot of time to show properly ... so it would have been two movies of extra length instead of one. I WISH they had been able to do it, but the movie was going above its budget already. In any case it is a cut above the other versions because of the sets and designs AND the actors.
he has mentioned that he more or less looks the same as he did at 20 !! the same can be said for Virginia Madsen !~! What a beauty so fair yes radiant maiden [alright I'm going overboard!] ENJOY!!
I thought the same, i mean Dune was created in 1984.. and 10 Years later he played in TNG and that was in 1994 and he still looks as good as he did in 1984, i couldnt believe it at first when i saw him in the movie and was more astonished that his appearence didnt change at all.
Greatly appreciate this edit. So wish that David Lynch had been allowed to release his original long cut. This must be close to what that would have been. Even with 40-year old special effects, this version of Dune has more classical gravitas than the Villeneuve version. Thank you again for the work put into this edit.
Awesome amount of work went into this movie, first time I watched this 1987 with Stephanie in Lake Tekapo we were captivated by this Great movie surprised to see Sting in it among other good actors
Only just came across this version I have no concept of the hours and the necessary skill 2 do this edit but may I say I have been blessed to see it indeed............saw the original with your editing you have far surpassed that in my humble opinion
I actually saw the movie before reading the book. I was kind of astonished how I clued into things that the book delves into but not so much the movie. I've often recommended the book to people, telling them that it's not only the best science fiction book I've ever read, it's one of the best I've ever read, period. Frank Herbert was, IMHO, a genius and is right along there with J.R. Tolkien as far as I'm concerned. :)
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