Durch die Nacht mit Bill Kaulitz und Wolfgang Joop - Part 4 [englisch translation] 

Durch die Nacht mit Bill Kaulitz und Wolfgang Joop. Arte.
BILL: And then we sat down, and said that if they didn't give us something to eat, we couldn't go on.
[PARIS]
JOOP: Oh right, first we're going to a 'palais'. [TALKS ON THE PHONE...]
[PALAIS]
JOOP: My hair looks crappy. But I have to say, the rooms suit you.
BILL: They suit me, right?
JOOP: They do.
BILL: I thought about moving in here, not to L.A.
JOOP: My aunt Ulla had almost exactly the same. [blaaaaaaaaaah.]
JOOP: The ambassador is coming to see us now - should we lay down? ;)
[I don't feel like translating the whole part about the embassador; basically, they talk about the house and the furniture and that there's a apparently a ghost in the room. The part where Bill almost spits out his champagne isn't really funny - they just talk about the ambassador's tie]
[BACK IN THE CAR]
JOOP: You want to control this image you've created. You want to fulfill this role you've invented. Sometimes it's easier, in a movie, to play this role that someone has given you. It's easier than playing your own. Sometimes you realize that your role isn't up-to-date anymore, that you should've changed into different role a long time ago. But... which one? I know myself that I wouldn't be able to play the Joop from the 90's anymore. I'm only doing this because you're here with me. I've become very camera-shy in the last few years. Because the picture of me, of what I look like, printed or on screen - I don't like it anymore. I've gotten used to a different image in the last 20 years, and I don't think I resemble that image anymore. And, I mean, this will happen to you, too, one day. Especially because this image suits you very well, you know? The whole look, the whole thing. But someday, I mean, you've managed to [...]. But at some point, combing your hair differently won't be enough anymore, of course. For me, I've noticed it on my grin. Once upon a time, every photo was perfect because of that grin, this practiced smile. Cynically, I often said about myself, when they asked me how I got so successful, how I made my fortune, and I said 'because of that grin'. But because of that grin, I noticed that at one point, it wasn't real anymore. And that my eyes looked sad. And in my eyes you could see that I'd seen too much. You see that in your look.
BILL: I know. I know exactly what you mean. It's like... Sometimes there are days when you just can't do it. And I'm sitting there and I think... And I hate it when I've agreed to do something and I know I have to do it, but then there are days when I just don't feel it or I can't do it. And then my eyes are black and my hair, and I just don't feel like doing it at all.
JOOP: It helps a little, though, doesn't it?
BILL: Yes, it does help, but sometimes you just can't open them underneath all that. And on the picture I see it and think, "Oh shit." But you also have to stop looking at it every time. At the beginning, I looked at all the pictures, but it drives you crazy after a while. At the beginning, I really looked at every single picture but after a while, you just have to stop because you start thinking... You hear someone say something about it and you want to please that person; you start thinking, "Hmm, that doesn't really suit me," and...
JOOP: It's like you're a third person.
BILL: Exactly! You start seeing yourself from the outside, and...
JOOP: Marlene Dietrich - I have to think about her now because we're close to her apartment now - spent decades in her bed looking at her old pictures and movies, and took notes about them. "Thin hair, bad light, how does she look there?" You know? She really haunted herself with that.
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