Dutch Model 1871/88 Beaumont Reloading

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The Dutch Model 1871/88 Beaumont rifle fires an 11x52mm black powder cartridge. For those that want to shoot these rifles, proper brass is typically unavailable. However, it can be formed from a few other cartridges that are close in dimension, 50-90 Sharps is probably the easiest of those to obtain. In this video, I show how to form it into 11x52 Beaumont without a proper die set. I then test shoot them in the rifle, and then discuss how to reload the cases.
The rifle featured in this video was previously restored here:
• Dutch Model 1871/88 Be...
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00:00 Intro
00:52 Brass comparison
02:42 Trimming
05:26 Annealing
06:16 Forming the bottle neck
12:05 Brass comparison #2
12:39 Trimming #2
13:57 Loading
16:31 Shooting #1
17:04 Problem
17:47 Solution
18:12 Reloading
20:56 Shooting #2

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@StevenHess 6 месяцев назад

This helped me identify a rifle that has been in my families possession for at least 90 years. It sat behind a door in my parent's house for decades. It is identical.

@CrashRacknShoot 6 месяцев назад

Your channel is severly underrated. This is tenacity meeting research in the purest form.

@PrebleStreetRecords 6 месяцев назад

Great video! I’ve had a lot of luck with the Lee .458 405gr cast bullet in my Beaumont, loading with a 45ACP bullet seat and taper crimp die. I’ve used 70gr of FFg in the past, but I think I’ll move to smokeless loads based on 45-70 trapdoor recipes from the old Lyman Cast Reloading book. I’ve bought 43 Beaumont and other brass from LGM on Gunbroker, he does fantastic work making all sorts of esoteric cases.

@GIJeaux1 6 месяцев назад

I use the Lee 340gr .45 bullet mold and they seem to hit point of aim. I know everyone likes the BP thing but, I prefer mild loads of smokeless. I am on the waiting list for C&H dies. They estimated 2 years. I still have a year to go. I did manage to get some Bertram cases from Huntingtons before they went out of business last September. I have some 32 ga brass shotshells put back to try when I get my die set.

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

I wrapped up this video then immediately ordered both 32ga shot shells and the 340gr mold. So there will be a follow up. Hope you can get yours shooting soon

@GIJeaux1 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojectsOh, I've been shooting mine using the Bertram cases I bought. I love it. I also have and shoot an 1874 Gras, a 71/84 Mauser, a couple of Swiss Vetterlis and more. As a reloader, I enjoy making this ammo and shooting the old guns. Thank you for your excellent videos and keep them coming.

@STMwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

In my experience, lighter bullets with the same powder charge will likely hit even lower than the heavier ones due to a flatter trajectory. More powder will raise POA some. Glad you were able to get this old, obscure rifle running!

@bobjohnston8316 4 месяца назад

My Dutch/Ethiopean Beaumont just arrived from Royal Tiger Imports. Appearance wise, the rifle is a mess. It’s filthy and even had a stalk of straw in the bore. My first concern was the bore, which after some cleaning turned out to be a pleasant surprise. There is some pitting but the rifle should be quite shootable. I plan to take the bolt apart and all other removable parts and get them in the ultrasonic cleaner today or tomorrow. The stock will need lots of fine steel wool and linseed oil. New cases ARE available from Northern Shooters Supply in Australia and I plan to order some. I’m in the US so there’s a six week delay while they get an export permit but I bought .43 Spanish cases from these folks and the cases are really nice and the price was right.

@rakumprojects 4 месяца назад

Sounds like you lucked out with the condition of the rifle. I've seen the cases available in Australia, but never considered ordering them. I'll look into it

@pietvermaat5928 4 месяца назад

Great video. I wish I had seen this video when I started reloading this caliber. I have some information from original sources. The case length could vary from 50.5-51.5 mm. Therefore it is better to call the cartridge 11x51R. In 1875 another bullet, the Harsveldt bullet was introduced. Diameter 11.6mm = .457. Weight 25 gram = 385 grains. 5 gram Black powder. Cases can also be bought from Horneber Germany . They can also be formed from .470 NE. I was lucky because someone sold once fired cases!. Or from 32 gauge shotshell. I have Ch4d dies. I am not very satisfied with them because the seating die does not accept a .458 bullet.

@davidfist7801 6 месяцев назад

Kudos! For most people, that rifle would be a wall hanger. It's awesome that you actually manufactured ammo for it. One thing I would like to see is a video on cleaning these old black powder cartridge rifles after firing them. I've done plenty of it with muzzle loaders, but a cartridge rifle would be a completely different method.

@zebracherub 6 месяцев назад

I was impatiently waiting for another video of yours and you delivered. Great job ! You deserve way more recognition and views !

@KargoMaster 6 месяцев назад

A very nice lunchtime video… Thank you! I especially liked the added few minutes after your out-tro… Just a nice smooth rhythm of shooting a few… Joyful moments.

@thomasozminkowski2589 6 месяцев назад

Great channel. I have several Beaumonts and they measure .450 across the grooves. You may have even better accuracy if you slug your bore and size your bullets accordingly.

@mightress 8 дней назад

They are great rifles and shoot very well

@mtthyw 6 месяцев назад

Awesome video. This is going to be so helpful in the future.

@rre9121 6 месяцев назад

Awesome gun, great work!

@Almost_Made_It 6 месяцев назад

This is awesome. Some old school ingenuity. Philip B Sharpe vibes here

@TheRedneckPreppy 6 месяцев назад

Ah, a kindred spirit when it comes to jerry-rigging anything at hand to reload an old calibre. Ironically, my last project was trying to figure out brass and resizing for the 8x58mmRD round, one of the sets you used. It was only after CH4D had a short run of those dies that I was able to finally easily produce rounds for my Husqvarna Rolling Block rifle.

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

I'd like a Swedish Rolling Block in 8x58r. One day I'll find one

@TheRedneckPreppy 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects Up here in Canada we got a pile of them imported some years back. Generally good condition across the board from what I'm told, though mine had some issues.

@ultimategamingtime1515 6 месяцев назад

I love it!! Beautiful piece of engineering out of Maastricht!!

@williamspurgeon3803 5 месяцев назад

you can make them from Magtech 32 gauge Brass Shot gun brass cheeper works real good

@wagon9082 6 месяцев назад

Good video

@user-xt3jc1uf8w 6 месяцев назад

You can use 32gauge brass shot shells match midway midsouth shooters supply

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

I ordered some to experiment with. The process of converting them should be the same.

@user-xt3jc1uf8w 6 месяцев назад

You can get a set of dies from a co called CH4 they make obsolete dies I have got several from them they work

@GIJeaux1 6 месяцев назад

Woo Hoo! I just scored a set of C&H 11.35x52r Beaumont dies. Now I can cancel my back ordered ones.

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

Nice find! Where did you get them?

@GIJeaux1 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects Ebay. I was checking 3 times a day for months now and, it finally paid off.

@GIJeaux1 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects I got them on e b a y .

@pietvermaat5928 4 месяца назад

@@rakumprojectsI have CH4D dies. The seating die is too small. You can't seat .458 bullets with them.

@rakumprojects 4 месяца назад

@@pietvermaat5928 What bullet diameter do you use? Or do you use another die to expand it a bit more?

@Kbrusky15 3 месяца назад

you're an artist. :)

@williamspurgeon3803 5 месяцев назад

you can get a Beaumont die set from CH4D die makers

@rider4440 6 месяцев назад

1. that is an amazing reload, very well done, would you do something similar for the Berdan 2? 2. that FAL on the table when you're shooting the reformed brass is amazing!

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

Of course. I would like a Berdan II one day. A gun show I went to once had a Berdan I on display, those are cool guns as well but way too much for my collection. The FAL is a Brazilian kit build

@Toolness1 6 месяцев назад

Awesome vid, can you tell be the brand of that mini chop saw? Ive been wanting one but so many have terrible reviews and Im not sure which one to get.

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

It's the basic Drill Master from Harbor Freight. It seems to work ok as long as you're not expected very precise results.

@Toolness1 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects Thanks, I need it for converting .303 Brit to 6.5 Dutch rimmed. The shoulder bumping step leaves you with a good bit to trim and I've been taking a hacksaw to it which is a pain.

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

@@Toolness1 It would work well for that. I do the same for my 30-06 conversions. Then use a Lee trimmer to clean it up and bring it to final length

@Toolness1 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojectsI have done 30-06 to 7.7 Japanese and it'll be good for that. I found one on Amazon and ordered it. My local store didn't have any and the HF website says "in store only"

@johnjamieson6368 6 месяцев назад

Next step is to make some chargers for loading the magazine. :)

@blakestanbery2385 6 месяцев назад

Just smoking out the range it’s beautiful

@Daveszka1997 6 месяцев назад

Can you the reactive p08 luger back to be active? In next video?

@Tammy-un3ql 6 месяцев назад

Wow!

@Slavking374 6 месяцев назад

I have a question, if I sent you my Winchester mod fifty could you fix the fore stock or make a video on fixing a fore stock?

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

Sorry, but I have a back log of my own projects to get through

@Slavking374 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects it’s alright man if you could make a fore stock repair or making video that’d be incredible but you do what you gotta do and I love your content I already subbed keep up the good work.

@cordelllush8133 5 месяцев назад

can you do a video on the 8x58 danish?

@rakumprojects 5 месяцев назад

Yes, I have one coming soon

@cordelllush8133 5 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojectsnice! cant wait to see!

@user-xt3jc1uf8w 4 дня назад

you can make these from 32 gauge shotgun brass real easy

@dallas1179 2 месяца назад

Just curious, wouldn’t it have been easier to just fire form the cases and then figure out the proper neck diameter to seat the bullets after?

@rakumprojects 2 месяца назад

The cases needed to be sized down to fit in the chamber. Fire forming is used when cases are already small enough to fit and need to be expanded.

@dallas1179 2 месяца назад

Yeah. as soon as i pressed send i was like duh, those straight cases wont fit in the chamber. I’m too used to forming 7.62x54 to 8-50r lol.

@1885win 6 месяцев назад

45 long colt never existed. It was always 45 colt.

@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL 6 месяцев назад

The rifle have the barrel inside shape matching with the ammo shape ? If not, do you tryed yet to make a extra long cartridge with substantialy more powder than the normal lenghts For turn this rifle into a african hunt kind of rifle ? This is co0l when i finaly build my own rifle thr first thing i always imagine that i goin to do is to make my rifle a super caliber kind of rifle and at same time shot regular short normal power ammo

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

The chamber could be reamed to fit a longer cartridge but then you could be exceeding the pressure the action is designed to handle.

@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL 6 месяцев назад

@@rakumprojects do you understand about materials ? I need to known for example what special kind of Stell is made a 50 BMG - or a 700 nitro express

@rakumprojects 6 месяцев назад

@@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL it's not just the metallurgy, it's also how the action locks. The way the Beaumont locks with just one locking lug at the midpoint of the bolt isn't sufficient for mostly smokeless powder cartridges.