Shows the importance of keeping logs of everything , emails, dates times the lot. That email booking saved you a big fine, as did your diligence with the diary mate, well done and congrats on keeping such a detailed diary of work.
That's what was good about the old log books we use to have a record in writing of your daily journeys. The DVA haven't changed I see, we use to call them the ministry in my days as lorry driver and they needed a copper to stop you. They didn't have the authority to stop you without one.
Really interesting video 👍. I drove HGV1 until 1997 and I've kept C+E on my licence in case I needed to go back to it, but watching videos like yours has made me realise that I wouldn't want to. The rules, regulations and red tape have tightened up so much since my day. I think I'd find it too stressful now. I'd have to learn it all again. Good luck and best wishes in your career, you appear to have the discipline and determination to succeed which aren't always common traits in today's younger generation.
i’ve been a class 1 driver for well over 30 years doing mainly abnormal work cat3 etc i wouldn’t wish this job on anyone grossly over regulated i’m 62 now i just want to retire
Enjoyed the vlog,I only managed to drive 7 1/3toner,getting ready to take class1,when had accident in car,and found had problem with spine end of career.Know your in a yard but please close your cab door with keys out when you walk away from unit.Not having a go mate.
Hi Dave, ex-driver here and I've been a Transport Supervisor for several companies. Just a word of warning, if you get pulled abroad with the amber engine light on, they won't cut you the same slack as the DVSA did. If they give you a foreign version of a PG-9 you'll have no option but to get it fixed abroad and that could turn out to be VERY expensive, on top of their fine.
Giles, I appreciate that this is an old post, but DVSA didn't cut him anything. If you read the DVSA roadside manual on page 19 refer to notes 5 and 6 and this should have been an inspection notice. INs don't go down on your record, PG9s- even delayed- do. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6453c62f2f62220013a6a52d/categorisation-of-vehicle-defects.pdf
Just passed my class 1 at the beginning of the week and your vids like this are a massive help, you’ve convinced me about keeping a diary and log of everything already and I’ve not even started! Keep it up mate x
If anything is dangerous or simply crap, point blank refuse to drive it.! it’s the only job that lands you a on the spot fine obviously you can appeal but your got to pay it first Yes the company get a bigger fine but they can take the hit especially if they have been getting away with not spending money
I've driven many DAFs with an amber engine malfunction too and not known the problem. Company always said they can't do anything until it turns red. From now on, I'm not driving a DAF with an engine malfunction warning. Thanks for the heads up! I used to keep a log book. Stopped. Will be continuing from next week onwards. I see DVSA most days when I'm out.
Morning Dave. That was an absolutely fantastic video and shows by keeping good written records in a diary is paramount 👍🏻 In one of your Q&A videos you should show how you fill out your daily diary 👍🏻 Truck looking great David you’re a top guy 🤩 I drive a Daffy Duck 🦆 and yes the dreaded amber warning 😩 Stay safe out there 👍🏻
A good video about the process. The problem with not knowing about this stuff is that you don't know if the DVSA are taking the correct action or not. That delayed prohibition will now give you 25 points on your Operator Compliance Risk Score. If you are a single truck owner operator that will have a significant effect on your OCRS now which will take time to get rid of. I am not convinced the PG9 was the right action. Check out the Categorisation of Defects manual (free to find online). Chapter 5 - note 6. It says prohibition action should only be taken if the system clearly indicates a fault and the AdBlue tank is empty. As you had already arranged for repair I think he should have let you go with an Inspection notice which would have meant no points on your OCRS. Problem with roadside prohibitions is there is no right of appeal. So nothing can be changed now. But in future ask them specifically which part of the manual they are referring to.
Very much as above re the score, this encounter could bring a lot more encounters in future as its so hard for the owner driver to improve his score, easier for the larger company as lots of first time mot passes will keep their score in green etc on the ocrs. Its tough for the smaller fleet guys.
@@tonycole9851 With his two drivers hours infringements added to the PG9 prohibition he will be on the RED warning list AND Traffic Commissioner will be informed
Cheers DC, I keep a diary of my start/finish times milage and write defects in and defect numbers but it's never occurred to me to write as in depth as you do. I'm going to start that from Monday
Well that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of a prohibition for a EML 😮. He must issue them like confetti then because it’s like a standard light on a DAF….
To be honest, there are people that can, and those who can't be bothered with this industry. If you could not conduct yourself due to lack of confidence things could go wrong for you. Hats off mate. I couldn't deal with the stress.
I was on the heavies in the 70's, then part time (I went into the NHS full time) until 1999. Your a credit to the industry mate, the best of luck to you.
The way you say that you were treated and your positive attitude needs to be noted And it was made easier by your 100% postive attitude . Love your stuff mate Jim Red Rabbit GBR Truck #CBtalk app
Great DC nothing wrong being honest putting your hands up and taken infringments lot drivers wouldnt admit to that great looking truck /trailer you take pride in your truck at end day your selling your product to your customers no work no pay no money great videos keep coming DC till next 1 .
If DVSA wants your tacho card, how on earth can you hide it? It's all logged and your most oldest records gets overwritten with new data. If they ask you for your card, then you tell them you got infringements
I used to drive an 8 leg Daf CF beavertail weighing 21800kg useless truck for weight however the emissions light was on permanently it went into Daf at Walton Summit & they couldn't turn it off no matter what they did everything possible was changed it still illuminated faults cleared I think it's still lit now with no battery attached good luck keep going
I think you were set up there. I used to drive my car to Belgium and back every 2 weeks for work . Stopped in the tunnel most times - single bloke by himself . The cars and caravans totally loaded just go through . Good video.
Belter of a channel, really happy to see you going strong I am jealous of you, I have always wanted to give it a go myself but to cowardly to take the plunge On the notes thing, couldn’t agree with that enough, I have always just relied on the FTA Vision app but that’s because my employer plays for it 😂 Keep it going big lad 👍👍👍
You went wrong by expecting the idiots at the DVSA to exercise some common sense. Absolute joke a PG9 for a MIL lamp. DVSA bloke shouldn’t even have mentioned those couple of minor infringements, he basically admitted you’re doing everything right then gave you a PG9 anyway and all the bs that comes with it over something which has absolutely no affect on road safety. A jobsworth of the highest order.
@@Dbdiagnosticsltd it’s shouldn’t be end of story though. The ramifications of a PG9 on an operator licence for a defect from one of the hundreds of sensors on a vehicle which can fault/fail in service when they can see he is running within the law are ridiculous. A degree of common sense should be applied. Go for the people with dangerous vehicles not the low hanging fruit and I would have some respect for them. Enforcing the letter of the law rather than the spirit will hopefully one day become the downfall of these idiots.
@Kkk187 The examiner might have said get it repaired if he had not said its been to a workshop and I was told its OK. If he said it came on coming through France and I'm being looked at back at depot he might have let it go. Yeah it's nothing serious like over weight, or loose wheel etc but still wouldn't pass an mot which is all they are working to. When at mot they don't use common sense either so doubt it would be used on the road
@@Dbdiagnosticsltd I find the testers do use common sense tbh, there’s one or two on a power trip but they’re mostly reasonable guys. Roadside enforcement seems to be staffed by a huge amount of absolute bell ends, there will be some decent but they’re in the minority. The fact he quizzed him about a couple of minor tacho infringements tells me everything I need to know about the clown that stopped him. If I was a small operator I would 100% run on BG plates, not to run bent just to take some power away from these roadside enforcement staff with a god complex.
Delayed prohibition is more common because they recognise that faults can't always be fixed immediately, and if it doesn't affect the safe operation of the vehicle, then it can continue to operate for a short period. The diary is absolutely vital and the strongest tool in your armoury. It probably completely shaped your encounter with the DVSA. It demonstrates you are aware of the rules about driving hours, it also shows you are monitoring them, and if infringements do occur, you are both recording them and documenting the reasons. Someone who's trying to be compliant and not just taking the piss will get a whole world of better treatment than someone who doesn't know, doesn't care and is just doing as much as they can with no recordkeeping.
You can only move twice on ferry mode up to an hour. That’s not enough when it’s busy plus the channel crossing doesn’t provide bunks or couchettes to make a ferry move legal.
Dan, just be careful with the nox sensor. I had one go when working for Rocklys they changed it and it went again 2 mile down road, turns out it was ad blue pump had gone and it fried the new nox sensor. Also said hi to ya last night in OG1
You got lucky there mate. Considering how everyone is all up in arms about emissions these days you would imagine they would throw the book at you for an engine light - though we all know its not unsafe and isn't going to make much difference for the week or two its not working. Glad the dvsa bloke was sensible about it. I know a lad who got pulled for a similar thing last year - yellow engine light but he didn't know why - and it was an immediate stop in place then he had to get it towed to the garage. The UK ones are usually reasonable but some of the abroad ones can be very over the top.
I tow a car trailer and got a pg9 a couple of weeks ago. Fault in wiring led to lights pulsing. Cops pulled me , pg9 me, but did say if I could get it fixed at roadside, they would come back and lift the prohibition. So sourced a trailer board, got it fitted, and all was OK. Called 101 like the cop instructed, and they got onto the dealing officer's, who then contacted colleagues that were close by. They came out, checked my lights, and lifted the pg9. Took about 2hrs in total but fair play to police Scotland coming back out.
I did nearly 50 years on the road starting with BRS in Gloucester and ending up at B&Q doing night trunk. i loved it, but wouldn't want to do it now thanks to GPS and jobs worth officials They even know when you stop for a cuppa these days.
PG9(Delayed) it allows you time to rectify any minor defect. similar to a DVRS that cars and light vehicles are issued by the Police, As for keeping a dairy / records, YES 100% bob on, I drove for a living for 20 years, I always kept a log. times start finish, any occurrences. plus the vehicle reg/feet number and any defects / body damage I found. thus gave me evidence if The Brass tried to pin and thing on me later on. YES Managers in passenger transport industry will do this. That is why there is a HUGE shortage of bus drivers in the UK. no one wants to do it any more, especially for £10 - £13 a hour 12 hour days.
Really informative, had no idea engine warning would result in PG9... Definitely starting the diary thing as I agree with your reasoning and some things are just unavoidable and perhaps not explainable without some clear management and record keeping!! Cheers
PG9's come in two forms. First immediate prohibition a defect liable to cause a serious accident or injury. Second form is delayed prohibition for a minor defect that affects roadworthiness. You got the second. 10 days to get the knock sensor replaced. Get the knock sensor done and get the garage to stamp the PG9 confirming that the defect is rectified and send it to the address required within the 10 days and the PG9 is automatically lifted. No dramas needed.
Got off lightly there, Dafs come out factory with EML on, least it was a delayed prohibition, many of the lesser human testers would have immediately prohibited it
Pretty much any warning light is an MOT fail - motorbike, car, van, truck or otherwise. Unless its a defect that will make your vehicle unsafe like failed brakes, you can only drive it for a pre-arranged repair. The EML warning should be in your diary as well.
when i learnt to drive hgv's in the 90's best advise i was given was keep a drivers hand book 1 in case taco fails. 2 cover your back for which ever firm you work for 3, if you where crap at maths you had it written down start stop for the day. 4 misc details for the day
I got pulled last year, 32t ridged. Dvsa pulled me at hull docks. Basically said I was overwight (14.8t digger and 1.5t of buckets) jokeing I said "you checky bastard" (rubbing my belly). Told the chap my wights and told him lorry cap. Then showed him my "empty" axle wight on the same wight bridge......... Checked my taco....."with 25min over time on and 35min over rest with my 45min rest to comp" explain everything.....laffed and joked with good humour...... I was given green light. Like you say just be open and truthful, if your good all ok, if running bent........expect the PG9
An EML on the dash will not identify what the problem is! That's why you need a computer to pinpoint the problem. He got a DELAYED PG9 giving him time to have the fault rectified without any interruptions to his work schedule. If you have no respect for DVSA you certainly have no respect for safety or following the rules.
@@keithmarshall8796 rubbish, he could have just said email me the repair invoice and leave it at that rather than put a black mark against his op licence when it can clearly be seen he’s running legal as far as practicable. DVSA enforcement are not for for purpose at the moment.
Your paperwork is in order, i have seen pictures of roofs in fridge trailers with holes in the roof & a 10k fine for the driver is not fair. All lorries should be scanned and have secure parking in France with armed security so its safe Great video , you have done the DVLA not the other way round
That's not the first time I've known a diary help a driver at a DVSA stop or the inspector comment on it. In my experience, having been stopped a few times over the years, they've always been pretty decent to deal with, even when you have some infringement, I got a delayed prohibition for a loose trailer axle, basically he ask me where I was tipping and where I had to get back too, and gave me enough time to do it and a bit. One also gave me the benefit of the doubt, as he put it when I'd run over my hours. I was straight up with him, said I'd gone over at the start of the week before he did the analysis. Your problem now is you have a PG9 linked to your O licence and you won't be on a green light, so you might have a few more checks.
It is interesting hearing about the European hours of service. Here in Canada in a 16 hr day the driver is allowed to drive max 13 hrs and work or on duty a max of 14. A 8 hr off in the sleeper plus 2 hrs off duty split in ½ hr periods give you 10 hrs off duty then you get back the 14 hrs to work. You can work 70 hr in 7 days 36 hr reset ( off duty)or 120 hrs in 14 days ( 72 hr reset). Every 7 days must have 24 hrs off. WiUSA rules are screwy 11 drive in a 14 hr day with a 10 hr rest which can be 8 and a block of 2 or 7 and a block of 3 plus a 30 min break before 8 hrs of driving has taken place.
These sound like DVSA contractors who don't know what they're doing or what they're talking about and are making up the rules as they go along. Similar to those who have been telling drivers their strapping isn't sufficient and demanding they use about two dozen ratchet straps when six will do. I drive DAF artics a lot (the Royal Mail has a lot of them) and engine malfunction warnings are common. I guess because Royal Mail are considered "blue chip", their trucks don't get pulled.
Make sure they read that nox sensor code correctly, 🤔🤔🤔 change out the right part,, you do not need that FKN light coming up on the dash again, KEEP ON TRUCKINGGOOD 👍☠️☠️👍
I find it so funny. I get paid over what truck drivers get in my van. I don't have to put up with all the hassle of the DVSA stuff. You think this is normal, you wait until what the DVSA really wants to do
Get yourself a cheap code reader to keep in the truck to clear temporary faults , so many vehicles come up with NOX sensors, modern technology that's just not up to job 👍👍
NOX sensors are a joke , their lifespan can be very uncertain. . On Peugeot's often entails a new exhaust as they are seized solid BMW'S are a little easier. These are fast becoming a service part so should be easy to change and far far cheaper......
Nice one !! keep up the good work mate!! I subbed you and currently going through my HGV journey theory booked in may 2023 and the cpc is mashing me up lol any tips on how to study for the case studies? Cheers!
