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DYNO TEST: 2024 Model 3 Performance 

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02:37 Underbody Changes & Testing
08:20 Dyno Differences
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@LearningFast
@LearningFast 23 дня назад
Nobody said it was over 600 wheel HP. It makes almost 615 HP at the battery and that is a true measured value we read directly from the battery. The issue with your dyno numbers is that Dynos are not meant to measure power or torque at very low speeds. That is why cars are typically dyno’d in 4th or 5th gear at much higher speeds. 500+ HP at low speeds is an extreme amount of torque and dynos can’t typically handle it. Plus they lose accuracy because the torque and accelerations are so severe at low speeds. There is no way a car with only 500 WHP is running 10.75 @ 127 mph in the 1/4 mile. Just plug that time and speed into any HP calculator and you will see that those specs require at least 600+ Wheel HP. The car absolutely makes 610+ HP at the battery and something like 550+ WHP when the battery is fully optimized. I know everyone wants to get dyno numbers for this car but it won’t be accurate because the single speed transmission in an EV makes typical dynos useless for measuring an EV. The Kia EV6 GT that is said to have 576 HP has that value at the battery. If you read the exact same metric for the new Model 3 Performance it will read 613 HP. Why does everyone believe the 576 HP value for the EV6 GT and not the 613 HP value for the Tesla?
@inclusivelove5165
@inclusivelove5165 23 дня назад
People don’t like Tesla. Jealous.
@Areku06
@Areku06 23 дня назад
507whp is close to 600bhp on awd ice car, I would say on dynojet probably makes 530-540whp.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Exactly all very good points. Dynos are not designed for the characteristics of an EV
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
@@Areku06sounds about right
@RJGuitz
@RJGuitz 23 дня назад
My 2024 MYP "on paper" is 455-510 hp (with different websites claiming those numbers). Every time people ask me how much HP it has, I always say, "idk... all I know is it's fast as fuck, and the torque is crazy. " 😂
@Davidtheinfidel
@Davidtheinfidel 23 дня назад
Thanks man. I've been waiting to see this.
@4literv6
@4literv6 23 дня назад
The dude who ran many 10s already inc multiple 10.7s in NC shared his teslafi data at max output so far of 457kws. The U.S. spec new 24 m3p is a fkn monster! Best per dollar value American made sports sedan available. 👍🏻😎 Makes me wonder if the new m3 lr rwd trim at $42,490 with 363 miles of range has the 4du in it? Since it does 0-60mph in 4.9s with a single motor stock. Imagine a boost upgrade to run low 4s in a rwd trim m3 for under 38k!
@sleepy_ipl
@sleepy_ipl 23 дня назад
4du is only for performance trim.
@4literv6
@4literv6 23 дня назад
@@sleepy_ipl says who? Tesla once built sleeper perf trims and used the more powerful motors in the lr&even the very first nmc 50kwh early sr m3s. Maybe they will here to. 😀
@christianolsen9781
@christianolsen9781 23 дня назад
Probably just same as the Y - the RWD LR is 1 second faster than SR. I expect due to higher output battery with same motor.
@sleepy_ipl
@sleepy_ipl 23 дня назад
@4literv6 the sleeper performance trim was just a model 3 performance with 18" wheels, did not have red painted brakes, no carbon fiber trunk spoiler and interior trim.
@courtneyclifton1617
@courtneyclifton1617 22 дня назад
I really hope we end up finding out that the performance drive unit is what's in that new RWD LR 3. That's what I've been hoping for since it was announced that a new rear drive unit was coming.
@rono33
@rono33 22 дня назад
Many ppl overlook what Elon talks about in this model, that it’s not just higher HP, but more importantly the PEAK power & torque is MAINTAINED LONGER for a better full 1/4 mile for example. Another great vid Michael.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 22 дня назад
@@rono33 exactly, more area under the curve! Great point
@w4rg3rm
@w4rg3rm Час назад
Interesting.
@BlueElectricityTesla
@BlueElectricityTesla 23 дня назад
Great vid with awesome data thanks for doin this stuff with your M3P so we don’t have to lol have a good one and good luck growing your channel
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
My car hates me 😂
@JetFuelOnly
@JetFuelOnly 21 день назад
Awesome commentary at the beginning! Thank you for being informed and informing us!
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 21 день назад
Thank you for the feedback!! I’m no expert but learned from victor and did a lot of research
@rogerserafin
@rogerserafin 20 дней назад
Good video Michael ! Thanks for sharing.
@Nisse977
@Nisse977 23 дня назад
Thanks for that! The thing with the new Performance model is that it continue to pull hard att higher speeds where the old model fell off. So maybe the peak HP-numbers are similar, but if we would put the charts from the new and old car ontop of each other, we would se bigger and bigger difference as the rpm/speed goes up. That is a good thing :) Thanks again!
@mrb2349
@mrb2349 22 дня назад
You're right, most people who talk specs only talk in terms of peak power figures. Then they scratch their heads when a 500 hp car is slower than a 400 hp one. Where in reality the 500 one only makes that at a very narrow band of its rev range, and is below 400 through most of it.
@gery4870
@gery4870 23 дня назад
Love it !!
@GraphicalBoss
@GraphicalBoss 23 дня назад
Lots of good info. Thanks
@JonNewell
@JonNewell 23 дня назад
Thanks for that, very interesting and your explanation at the beginning was excellent. Many a young man and their money has been parted with dyno tweaks.
@WillProwse
@WillProwse 23 дня назад
Sweet!!!
@natew2031
@natew2031 23 дня назад
Great breakdown discussion on inertia vs brake dyno. With a 15% difference as mentioned in the video, then your best run would be 514 HP --> 591 HP on a DynoJet. Nice!
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Thank you for your attention to detail! That could be on the very high end of the dyno jet given they have a large inertia, but certainly anywhere in the mid low 500 to mid high 500 seems likely
@katyyho
@katyyho 23 дня назад
Very cool, good to learn about HP
@gilliswang
@gilliswang 21 день назад
same
@jaredp1516
@jaredp1516 20 дней назад
tbh the torque is probably the most interesting thing to see, we need those numbers!!
@dangrass
@dangrass 23 дня назад
yet more great content. Thanks much for doing this. Seems the big power difference between the 2024 Performance and earlier versions is not the absolute power, but the "area under the curve". As Tesla stated, the new motor is able to produce higher power far further up the rev range than the earlier motor. The performance testing definitely shows this to be the case, with substantially higher 1/4 mile trap speeds and substantially faster high speed acceleration. When comparing my former 2019 LRDM car to the Performance version of that car it was pretty clear that the Performance variant was only faster up to 60, and after that they were the same. My new 2024 Performance is not like that, and has substantially more high speed power than the 2019 car.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Yes great point!! The area under the curve is much better with the peak at around 60mph. Better horsepower at many different speeds on the road.
@ilmostro16
@ilmostro16 18 дней назад
Finally, one other person on RU-vid who understands dynos and how you can’t compare between dynos on different days, and what the purpose of dynoing is. If I had a dollar for every moron who compares what someone got on some other dyno on some other day to what I got, lol.
@sigmaGameSense
@sigmaGameSense 23 дня назад
Got our 2024 M3 Ludicrous on June 26 and the driving just feels way better than my Model X Plaid hahah
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Congrats!!! Out of curiosity, how does the comfort of the model x plaid suspension feel compared to the m3p? I’m guessing the X feels much softer/comfortable for everyday driving but wanted to hear your experience
@zagato77904
@zagato77904 22 дня назад
Dude is smoking crack. My 24 X plaid is 3x better than any model 3.
@sigmaGameSense
@sigmaGameSense 22 дня назад
@@zagato77904 Lol, to each their own. I've had mine for a year, so maybe I am biased with a new car. The New 3p is insanely fun
@user-os1nh7xq1z
@user-os1nh7xq1z 20 дней назад
@@zagato77904 not round corners it isnt! No way an X could keep up on a twisty road. The 3 would lose it on the first corner!
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 12 дней назад
BMW doesn’t make an m3 ludicrous.
@giusepp3montanar0
@giusepp3montanar0 23 дня назад
Can you try the Highland LR version too?
@Goforadrian702
@Goforadrian702 23 дня назад
Thank you for posting this. To me it really felt like more hp. Maybe someday we will get a ludicrous unlock for more power the motors are capable of!
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
It definitely is more horsepower! Just more of an incremental improvement. Hopefully they can unlock more potential with a different battery or sofrware. But certainly it’s a much better overall car.
@Goforadrian702
@Goforadrian702 23 дня назад
@@officialmichaeltan agree. Coming out of an m3 I’m very satisfied with my decision
@marqueseason6360
@marqueseason6360 22 дня назад
Impressive!
@JimBoomer
@JimBoomer 23 дня назад
Will be cool to log the KW draw with something like the S3XY Commander when it becomes available in next month. My late 2023 MYP will pull 455 KW peak when I am @ 90%+ SOC and my batteries are close to 120 degrees. Battery pack temp can play a big roll in output as well.
@1971joseramirez
@1971joseramirez 22 дня назад
Everybody focus on dyno numbers I don’t care about dyno numbers. I don’t know the power of my 9’s Mustang. The most important figure to determine power/weight is trap speed. That doesn’t lie A 500whp narrow power band car will be slower than a 500 whp wide power band on the same weight. New model 3 has a wider powerband than the previous and that’s where the quicker acceleration comes from.
@jasongirard2278
@jasongirard2278 23 дня назад
Great vid with useful background information, thank you! LearningFast was reporting low 600's for battery horsepower reading with a conditioned battery. That's about 100HP difference vs. this dyno run. With much fewer moving parts vs. ICE, there should not be many mechanical losses. Maybe a difference in battery temp? (Did you happen to note battery temp during the dyno?)
@chuckz28
@chuckz28 23 дня назад
There is a difference between max battery output and wheel hp.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Thank you Jason! Yes agree with chuck’s point definitely still some mechanical losses. Did not have the battery temp number unfortunately.
@VictorDiaz-lo2mu
@VictorDiaz-lo2mu 18 дней назад
Inertial dynos usually estimate the transmision looses, and provide engine power figures. If you can try to do that with an EV, as they have regenerative braking and no clutch, you will overestimate the looses and you will read at least 100 extra hp.
@user-rm7kb3il6x
@user-rm7kb3il6x 22 дня назад
even if peak power is only incrementally improved, clearly the power is spread out to the top end because people notice how powerful the car pulls at higher speeds over the old one. that wouldnt be just a incremental power increase, thats a factor of the improved motor that can output more power for longer, at higher speeds while the old one peaks and drops off way sooner.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 21 день назад
Agree the bigger area under the curve/higher peak at around 60mph instead of 40ish on the old one definitely is a big improvement and I can feel it.
@martinmarkmarkovics7754
@martinmarkmarkovics7754 22 дня назад
In the registration paper of the HL LR it says 498. I highly doubt that after this video. By any chance can u get a Long Range version too?
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 22 дня назад
That would be a cool test! Hopefully soon.
@nathansuss
@nathansuss 23 дня назад
OH SHHHIII
@nathansuss
@nathansuss 23 дня назад
There's gotta be a software performance upgrade coming down the line, the motors and battery should be able to do more according to their specs??
@manfromlamancha
@manfromlamancha 23 дня назад
It already has overheating issues on the track. Doubt that can be fixed with software but would be nice.
@joaomatos14
@joaomatos14 23 дня назад
@@manfromlamanchathe car is not made for tracks where you are a lot of time in full power and full braking a lot of times in low time to cool the car and brakes, is a performance car for normal streets where we are not full braking a lot of times and not very long time full power
@4literv6
@4literv6 23 дня назад
@@manfromlamancha meh read motor trends latest lucid air sapphire review. 250k 5,335# 1234hp fker cooked it's front 16" 10 piston full carbon ceramic brakes in just 1.5 hot laps after they ran it in reduced power track mode with pre cooling. 👍🏻😀
@user-os1nh7xq1z
@user-os1nh7xq1z 23 дня назад
@@joaomatos14 Yep, 100% agree. These are street cars not track cars. Yes, they can be tracked but it is not their forte. Their strength lies in dominance on regular roads where 99% of people use their cars. I hope there is a software boost in the future!
@manfromlamancha
@manfromlamancha 23 дня назад
My ‘18 performance does fine at the track though. No overheating in 6 years, only changed tires and brake pads. Just disappointing that the new one can’t handle it.
@spiro5327
@spiro5327 21 день назад
Why have track mode if it's going to overheat and fall apart etc ??
@vlabmw9189
@vlabmw9189 15 дней назад
The EU version only has 460 hp, while the Long range has 490 hp
@markjones3964
@markjones3964 23 дня назад
FYI: Ref Italian Dyno, if it's the European M3P version, it has less power then the US version.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
For the 2024 that is true but I don’t know if that is true for the older versions. Misha probably had the Europe version like the Italian video
@tradingconjuanfernandezjfx7884
@tradingconjuanfernandezjfx7884 23 дня назад
and NM?
@mrh3085
@mrh3085 10 дней назад
10.9 sec quarter mile all day long ❤
@wastedmass4790
@wastedmass4790 22 дня назад
Do a top speed run
@matt277771
@matt277771 17 дней назад
seems like you didnt heat up the battery. the difference in hp with a battery at 25celcius and one at 50+ celcius in an m3p is 50hp.
@jlindo
@jlindo 11 дней назад
AC was on? Seems like that would certainly affect power.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 10 дней назад
We turned it on for the second half of the runs since it got hot inside. Maybe a little but pretty marginal.
@RIVvideos
@RIVvideos 23 дня назад
I saw the old one dyno at 550hp. Can you actually do a fair race against a stock 21/23 M3P with same state of charge see what the results are
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Your point on comparing old vs new on the SAME dyno is very valid. On the 550 you are referring to, I recommend watching the beginning of the video discussing the variability in Dyno instruments.
@RIVvideos
@RIVvideos 23 дня назад
I meant just a fair drag race with the old model would be really cool to see
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
@@RIVvideos oh for sure. Performance on the track is the most interesting. Hopefully soon!
@RIVvideos
@RIVvideos 23 дня назад
@@officialmichaeltan comparing on the track would be more complicated since you'd need professional drivers to get the max out of each car
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
@@RIVvideos 100%. Real world performance is what ultimately matters but measuring real world performance introduces so many variables.
@ericn3221
@ericn3221 23 дня назад
We know the new M3P is quite a bit quicker than the pre-refresh so no one really knows the actual HP of either one. Mishas buddy and yours show close to the same HP, but the new one easily out runs the last gen so using a dyno on these is a crapshoot.
@okuliarerayban9481
@okuliarerayban9481 23 дня назад
What is lr dyno of highland
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
Hope to find out soon!
@wfm125m
@wfm125m 19 дней назад
The best would be using an SI unit - Watt. There is no different HP/PS conversion problem.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 19 дней назад
As a chem e major, I agree
@mholmes9262
@mholmes9262 23 дня назад
Yes there are differences in dyno's. But didn't the gen1 M3P receive a 5% boost on two separate occasions? You cited one, and this could account for some difference in the older dyno number in the high 400's you were citing vs what some others have measured at a little over 500 peak HP. Also, an important distinction between the old and new is not just the peak power, but the spread over which it makes consistently higher power. The newer gen motors are more efficient and holder higher hp over a broader wheel speed. So the old M3P might measure as high as 523hp on one dyno up to a certain speed, but then it trails off until it settles around 400hp, whereas the newer model has a higher peak HP and then settles to a lower hp as speed increases, but the lower rating is obviously higher than the old gen motors. I don't know if that makes sense, but I'm guessing on a like for like dyno, where the old M3P was measuring over 500HP at the peak and closer to 400HP at higher speeds, the new one would measure somewhere north of 600HP and settle in the high 400's at higher speeds.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
@@mholmes9262 6:32 yep agree that the peak HP happening at a higher speed is a big improvement and translates to better pull over a wider range of speed in the real world. These results pretty much match what Tesla was saying about the peak horsepower happening around 60mph
@mholmes9262
@mholmes9262 23 дня назад
@@officialmichaeltan Yeah it's a great improvement over the last gen. How are you liking the new front seats? That's honestly my only gripe with my car ('22 M3P) because the side bolsters are kind of non-existent and I wouldn't mind a little longer bottom cushion (I'm 6'3") but I would love the higher HP, too. I'd love to see how this car compares to the Model S LR, which will be my next move (maybe the Plaid, but it's really not necessary...just bragging rights haha).
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
@@mholmes9262 long range S would be dope! The side bolstering is much more prominent. I was grateful for it on the racetrack. Honestly the bottom feels about the same length as a 2020 M3 I sat in but not 100% sure.
@Coyote.five.0
@Coyote.five.0 23 дня назад
how do you go into dyno mode ?
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
3:55 software tab > hold finger on the middle of the “model 3” text > type in “dynotest” when the popup appears
@Coyote.five.0
@Coyote.five.0 23 дня назад
@@officialmichaeltan thank you for that i been struggling to go into dyno after the v12 update on my M3 LR
@aurelienmartinod9119
@aurelienmartinod9119 23 дня назад
Whats Torque please?
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
4:46 unfortunately we didn’t have rpm measurements that day which meant no torque readings. Hopefully we’ll find out soon.
@aurelienmartinod9119
@aurelienmartinod9119 23 дня назад
​@@officialmichaeltan oh crap , thanks you 🙂
@EwanM11
@EwanM11 23 дня назад
Torque is not that important for EVs, i wouldn't worry about it. Torque was only ever important when cars needed to get power early in the rev range. Once 8 speed gearboxes became the norm, it's just not that important for ICE cars either. Also high torque numbers usually come from turbo motors which have turbo lag, so factor all that together and torque ends up not being a useful parameter now.
@jasongirard2278
@jasongirard2278 23 дня назад
@@EwanM11 Agree, especially for M3P, torque is not a concern. It gets off the line great and traction is not an issue. Main thing that needed improvement was the prior model would taper off above 60mph or so - the new rear motor and slight HP bump have helped in that regard.
@egyresztmasreszt4292
@egyresztmasreszt4292 23 дня назад
USA or EU version?
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 23 дня назад
USA
@dyhppyx
@dyhppyx 23 дня назад
Whatever the Dyno says isn't telling the whole story. You don't get 2.9 seconds like that
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti 16 дней назад
Too bad that power will never be used bc every Tesla owner has *range* *anxiety* all that hp is *useless*
@chadntm8189
@chadntm8189 2 дня назад
so it's faster than a sports car for the price of a camery ?? got it.
@officialmichaeltan
@officialmichaeltan 2 дня назад
Value is unrivaled.
@ba177ba18
@ba177ba18 20 дней назад
Tesla itself is full of misconceptions
@Great_America
@Great_America 23 дня назад
Brakes still suck
@billysmith4278
@billysmith4278 21 день назад
This guy has no idea what he is talking about.
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