Mate. I spent the money on the PC and let me tell you. You are right in every sense. It's a totally different machine. Best money I've spent and really demands respect now 🤤👌🏻👊🏻 Oh and I only got this coz of your video. Cheers!
I wasn't expecting much up top, those monster singles aren't really known for their power making near the max, but wow that gain where it counts. what a monster.
Yes exactly, 1 bhp at the top thats all, but low down wow its like another bike!! Also one thing I forgot to mention is how smooth and progressive the power is now, thats is actually the main benefit, makes the bike much nicer to ride
Yes real good gains below 6k, its amazing that very few people with big singles bother with power commanders! whereby sports bike every other bike has one! More gains to be had on a big single than a sports bike! :)
Did you run the Wings without any baffle in before you put the mapping in? If so, did it run lean? Just wonder cause I want to run my wings without baffle in but dont want to run it to lean
Yes it was one of the great things about doing the engine swap on the blade, carb tuning is a pain in the arse as you know, a power commander module is like black magic in comparison :)
Cool video man. I'm a software engineer for Dynojet. I know this video is a couple years old but I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on our Power Core software. Cheers!
I'm not sure why it is, by that testing is so fascinating to me. Glad it made you fall more in love with your bike....if that was even possible. Stay safe...
Goooood, !!! But, ... pleeease, go to the right side of the road , ... !!! ! !!! It is Much Safer There, .... as our American brothers noticed it a looong time ago ... and we did it tooo ... so we went 2 the right side of the road driving . Peace with ya .
I can't tell you exactly how much I actually love the Husqvarna 701 Supermoto it's got the power it's got the everything I don't want to go to a listing of everything and you don't put in a power commander in it and doing the exhaust and air filter not a lot of people think that it does anything to the bite but it does a hell of a lot and you know what you feel it right away congratulations I hope you're happy with it and I know I would be LOL great video great to see everything done from start to finish I love it just from watching it and I could just imagine how it feels to be riding it!.... I just actually got a Kawasaki ZX-10R I'll be riding soon and my channel will actually be up and running with me and a motorcycle LOL not me throwing knives good like I used to have so now I guess you know anyway great video badass awesome buddy!...
Thanks buddy, yeah sports bike riders have been fitted PC for years but big singles not many people fit them as they dont expect much of a result.. THEY ARE WRONG :-)
Makes you curious how having the power commander on affects the mode switch. Sure it doesn't hurt but more curious how it affects the "bad Gas" setting. Been watching a lot of 701 vids lately as I'm looking at picking one of the 2017's up in a few months. This video makes me want to do a dyno tune video once I get the $$$ for all the parts to open it up. Good video dude.
+MotardSteve no need to use the mode switch now, I had the bike mapped in standard position. The power commander also adjusts ignition advance so changing map on the switch could cause issues.. now the bike is super smooth and powerful on the standard mode no need to change. If you have poor fuel quality I wouldn't fit the pc in the first place tbh.. map switch only changes throttle response not power anyway.
Lamb Chop Rides Ahh gotcha didn't know what mode you used to tune it. I figured most would use the advanced map, but then again with a pcv on the bike I don't see how it would really matter either way since it will get the best results regardless. We've got pretty good fuel quality here in the states so doubt I'd ever use the bad fuel setting but was still something that peaked my curiosity.
+MotardSteve the advanced map is very snatchy which is why I didn't want to use that as the starting point. I'm not sure what effect changing the map position would have now.. may have a play see if it's still snatchy on advanced but guess shouldn't leave it in that position incase fuel map is altered..
Lamb Chop Rides So you mean that with the advanced mode fueling was to on and off for your liking, like to the point where it was unrideable? because I know the 500/501 suffers from this coming from the factory.
+MotardSteve yes indeed the start stop at a constant speed isn't great on advanced, also made wheelies hard to balance where you want smooth control. Power commander makes a huge difference to the smoothness of the power delivery 👍
On the cusp of buying one of these; I had the Suzuki DRZ400SM years back and loved it, regretted selling it. They seem to hold their value also or do they?
Hello, I bought same bike last year. I also have same airbox but i have the akrapovic exhaust. I found no dynojet programmation in Switzerland... Do you know if I bought the PC5 if you could shareme your map ? Thank you very much for answer. I m looking for upgrade my bike but i m a bit lost...
I think KTM still mount the stock snorkel lid on the 690/701 SM's... seems a bit lazy since there's no reason to not swap them out for something more open. On my 701 Enduro I'm keeping it for it's water/dust exclusion properties... but on the SM I'd have it off right away. Holy cow that low end power jump is HUGE... now I'm thinking I need a chip/tune (bottom end is the only place the bike feels a bit soft)
greetings from Canada🍻 Excellent video thank you for posting it. Is there any kind of performance difference between Wings exhaust and the Akrapovic exhaust?
+Harbercraftguy hello Canada!! I would expect more power from the Wings as Akro has baffles still.. it's a road approved pipe so not as free flowing but I expect it won't effect the map much 👍
Again a greetings from canada! Just curious lambchop if you could do a go over video of what wires you connected your Healtech gear indicator too. Ive got one of my own but am just not confidant with cutting into what might not be the right wire. Great videos man!
So just sold my track blade and looking to break my SM cherry 🍒 Looking around the 6k mark (but could sell a couple of kids pressies for the right bike!) What would you recommend Chops?
Geez chops that was a big call at the start of the vlog, “I’m not a weirdo”. Anyone who has to say that is pretty much guaranteed to be a weirdo lmao. Don’t you wish you could keep all your old bikes? I do.
Hi Lamb chop, I asked earlier but you may have not seen it. I have the 701 + wings + evo1 airbox, my powercommanderV is arriving today. Where is your map posted? Dynojet website has 2 maps, one says wings + stock or aftermarket airfilter, I was wondering if it is that one. Thanks for the hard work.
You can get the KTM 690 remapped by the dealer for the airbox and exhaust change. This is a standard map that they put on. Is there not a similar specific map available for the 701 from the Husqvarna dealers. Do you have to spend the extra money on the Power Commander?
Hi LCR,nice video! I've got a 701 SM with an Arrow slip on and I'm planning to get the Evo1 airbox lid from the 690, manly for the increased induction sound it gives to the bike.The question is: is it Mandatory to remap the ECU? Is it really running too lean with just a slip on (no kat) and an airfilter lid? Thanks!
Well I know two people who run an exhaust / filter and no map changes.. I think it will be fine but PC does really sort out throttle response so really worth it!
Hey Lamb, would those maps fit in 2017 model? Also can you share them? By the way on the powercommander website they give you the same map for 2016 and 2017...that's a bit weird...
Great video. really useful. can I ask please. do they leave that box under the seat, or was that just used for data whilst remapping? it would be great if they could add the map to another position on the factory fitted underseat switch. keep up the good work btw.
Yes you need the module connected, its a piggyback system doesn't override or change the map in the bikes ECU. Its a small module doesnt take up much room to be fair and sits in there lovely :)
+Lamb Chop Rides .ex demo. umpteen others have already done it. don't know if that's good or bad? Not too worried either way. BTW if you know anyone looking for one, a cheap as chips ex demo appeared on ebay last night. 1 day after I put a deposit on mine. typical! Never mind. thanks for the replies.
If I put k&n air filter and the evo 1lid, you thing it works beter with my acrapovic? ???because I have acrapovic system full but not air filter or the lid. You thing is working beter? ? My bike is ktm 690 enduro r 2012 model. thanks for the help 😊
Hi Lambchop, was this done at FW developments just outside Preston? I notice yours is a 16 model and I have a 17 so just asked them about compatibility and they said the bike they had in was actually a 17 model so just confirming facts before I bite the bullet and get it tuned at Lancaster. cheers.
Hmm, yes it was done by FW developments which is Dynojet headquarters in the UK. Mine is definitely a 2016 so they are either confused or not referring to my bike... Unless they have done another one which I doubt. I suspect the unit will fit fine but the map wont be right. Cheers
how does the bike handle in city traffic? low speeds, first/second gear? i've heard that the throttle response is fairly jerky and abrupt. how does the husky handle in soft mode?
+J0J0McM0M0 I completely forgot to mention the best thing about this mod is how it improves the throttle response. In standard mode throttle response is a little snatchy stock, not too bad but PC really improves it. In advance mode it's very snatchy. The reason for this is the lamda sensor makes the bike run very lean below 4K to meet emissions and makes it snatchy. PC bypasses lamda and there is a proper map below 4K 👍
I just installed PCV with Autotune and O2 sensor on my 2016 SM, it does not work good so far (It cut out fuel with more than 50% after several trims), guys form Dinojet wrote to me to keep stock narrowband sensor that is complete stupidity as I found out lately. now I ordered fuel dongle to see what happens.
Hey, would you recommend a 701 (if it's even possible??) to get restricted for an A2 license? I turn 19 next year and want to invest in a supermoto I can use both on A2 and then on an unrestricted license, but unsure if this is an appropriate choice for someone who has only been riding on a 125 before, and also someone who doesn't know much about how bikes all work? I would love to start putting my money into a nice bike. Cheers, just subscribed.
+Zak hi Zak, thanks for the sub matey 👍 yes they do an A2 restriction for the 701 so it's possible. It's also a very easy bike to ride, very smooth easy controls, comfortable riding position with amazing brakes and abs. I would recommend for a new rider, it's even very easy to work on so no dramas there also 😀
So if I give my bike to my local dynojet they can tune it? I'm saying this cuz Rottweiler are making a better air box than the Evo one you got and I would like them to tune it according to that air box. Also currently I have got Remus (race only, very illegal compared to wings) it weights around 1.54 kgs almost .7 kgs lighter than wings. My point is will they make a standard map from the data they collected about your bike or will they tune every bike accordingly. If it is the latter then why my local dynojet didn't tune my bike when I asked them to 6 months ago?
Yes, if you buy a Power Commander and use my map as the base map you can fit the new airbox and they can tweak accordingly :-) There is currently no PC available for the 701, its coming soon based on the work that was done on my bike, the 690 unit was used as the base but needed some changes to work on the 701.
I've got a 2017 701 supermoto and they don't come with a map switch... ive installed a wings exhaust and will be purchasing an intake soon, then a power commander once available. I'm new to Dyno tuning and Ecu flashing. Is the map switch adjusting the same settings the power commander taps into and adjusts? Or is the map switch tweaking something completely different?
+Matthew F the map switch adjusts the throttle sensitivity it doesn't effect power output, it may adjust ignition timing also I'm not sure.. the main benefits of the pc is it maps the engine with the correct amount of fuel, bikes from the factory can't do this as they are mapped to pass emissions controls which means running very lean below 4k revs. So even just adding a pc and no other performance parts you will still see a performance benefit. The pc adjusts the ignition timing and the amount of fueling to give better performance and feel. The map adjuster switch just changes the response of the throttle no performance benefits.
Hi Lambchop, how are the maps on the PCV changed? I don't have an external switch, but I doubt it's the underseat Husqvarna OEM ignition map switch that changes it. I have my underseat switch on 1 right now, which apparently is the soft map. Otherwise I have the akrapovic, airbox upgrade and of course the PCV. Just need to get to grips with her as she's still new to me and I don't have a clue about all these switches and ECU modules... I was used to Carbs!
Do you run with the standard air filter and the EVO 1 air box lid with this setup, no aftermarket airfilter? Does the EVO 1 air box lid fit spot on, on the 701?
+Rasmus Asp when it was setup was on standard filter but had ordered a bmc filter but it didn't arrive in time for the dyno. I've added it since as dyno guy said it would effect the map much. Lid fits the 701 perfect it's the same ktm airbox as the 690. I did just trim around the edge so it wasn't catching the loom though at the top.
Lamb Chop Rides Ok! Sounds like the PC is a must for this bike:) Where did you order the bmc air filter? Cant find it, or do you need to search for it for the 690 smc?
You can download a base map and just use that you dont have to have it setup on a rolling road. Custom map is better of course as every bike is slightly different. its about £180 for a custom map 2 - 3 hours work
His was probably free as they were developing a map that will be available when you buy a power commander for the 701. Obviously it’s not the exact same map but I’m sure it’s similar.
+CanyonMiniCooper not too bad takes a couple of hours if you've not taken the bike apart before. Hardest part is removing airbox to gain access to injector connectors.
supermarket fuel 😥 also the rubbish about running it lean is a marketing speel, the o2 sensors in the exhaust monitor the air fuel mixture and alter the fueling to suit. a power commander will help make more power by adding more fuel outside of the standard ECU peramiters, but adding an air filter and a slip on can will not run your engine lean.
+KB Eightyseven not true dude, only wide band o2 sensors can adjust fuel across the entire rev range. On new bikes you only get narrow band which can only adjust below 4k revs. At the top end when your thrashing the engine is at risk! O2 sensor is there on a new bike to meet emissions not to protect your engine
Lamb Chop Rides mate I'm sorry but you are talking rubbish now, firstly an o2 sensor doesn't alter fuel regardless of being wideband or open loop, the ECU alters the fueling to the injectors, i also think you are under the assumption that the standard ECU has just one fuel map and that it which is not true, it CAN and WILL alter the fuel map if it see's higher amounts of oxygen in the exhaust gases or running lean, and the ECU has a wide set of parameters for any rpm not just one figure and that's it, a bike at high altitude will need different fueling to a bike at low altitude you don't need a new ECU for that because it it can alter the fueling on the fly, while i do admit the manufacturer play it safe which may reduce power mostly due to ignition timing because not everybody wants to go flat out all the time and they need to meet emmisions, you would have to carry out major modifications to gas flow and air intake to force the ECU to fuel outside of its available parameters ie camshaft, porting, forced induction, fitting an air filter and end can will not. the mapping you had advanced the ignition timing and added more fuel which is a common practise to increase power, but it can only be added so much as it will start to produce predetination which does result in engine failure, hope he used a knock sensor or the value was mlnitored as it has one as standard 👍
Is it possible to download your new map from your dynojet and share it with me? I'm planning the same changes (wings+evo1, because I used same setup on 690enduro R and with my custom map for tuneEcu it worked great). I'm ready to pay you some money for your new map
Is it your thread? goo.gl/3WfPT7 Now I see that wiring is different and we really have to wait for product update((( Do you have any news when we may obtain PC-V addopted for 701 on the market?
+Ron Bullet (Lone Padre Rider) that's not my thread but I've seen it, yes unit is slightly diffrent. If you have a 690 loads of maps out there, have you looked on the powercommander website? I'm not sure the 701 map would be ideal for the 690..
No-no, my 690 was sold. I ordered 701 and just planning mapping of it. With 690 year 2012 I used TuneEcu, not powercommander. So, I'm not pro in this stuff.... Anyway, I already ordered Wings and EVO-1, waiting for my 701 in couple of weeks. May I contact you privately after that in case Dynojet doesn't start to sell powercommanders for 701? Because my second problem is that there are no service centers of Dynojet in Poland... Anyway, your video is very useful, thanks a lot!
oh man, what year? I kinda prefer the looks of the 2014-2016 but the things they have been saying about the new 2017 engine... it makes life really hard :D Which do you prefer? I mean the 17 looks beautiful aswell but money is an issue for me atleas and I havent hit 18 yet so I dont have the licence for one of those yet :/ I think If I can come up with the money In the middle of all studying and stuff its gonna be a totally diffrent experience walking to the shop and saying I´ll take that :D oh it just makes my heart race thinking about that.
+SamD well should be able to try one soon as Nuke Proof dan has a 2017 and he fitted his KTM 690 SM wheels! Yeah they are expensive though, only down side 😭
