Earth 2 Supporter Argues with me on Discord! 

@@Meatloaf_TV Bigfry rants are what got me hooked in the first place.

Man, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for your RU-vid content eh?

Lol have a good weekend bro

@@MrLarsalexander What? I've withdrawn $2,000 so far from E2 off of a $50 investment and I still have another $600 in land. It 100% is a virtual economy game right now. They're just envisioning a wild ambitious future it could evolve into.

If you can buy tiles in Crypto. This is a investment just like NFT! :D It is NFT from what i understood.. This can actually be REALLY cool... And you can make money on this like you can with NFT art tokens. You then resell your tiles to someone with profitt

Debates like a child and has the technological literacy of a boomer.

@@Peowcatpeow LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN BRUV

At first I thought he said: " older not wiser ". Can't believe H3 said otherwise not to mention the dude sounds like he jus hit puberty

I was on Toastmasters in college, and to be honest, his debate skills are pretty good. He had quick rebuttals with supporting facts (not opinions) for every counter argument. But holy fk, is it me or does his voice sound like an 18 year old? And he says he's older than BigFry??? Wut.

Actually it felt like bigfry was acting more than a child then the British guy. Because when fry was not talking the two other guys was debating and listening to each other trying to understand each other.

its harder to convince people that they have been deceived rather than trying to deceive them in the first place.

Just let them get scammed. Sometimes u have to ignore the dummies who look for their next bitcoin craze. No clue whether earth 2 will ever see a game but rn it just looks like digital collection of virtual property doesn’t seem legit at all

@@Astelch Gotta let the people who would've been fooled know. Get the dummies who want to defend why they're getting scammed but not those who wander into something they know nothing about

@@maltheri9833 you gotta make them learn a lesson the hardway adults are harder to educate because their ego overextends their reasoning. I'm a poor man I see someone with money fall for an obvious scam I ridicule them.

Don't forget crypto scam like Quadriga CX,

Yeah, but the lottery tickets are cheaper now, it's an investment xD

But you can buy and sell your tickets for exorbitant amounts of money that a . 0001% of the player base claims to have made huge amounts of money of off. It's also totally real and you can do it to! So while your waiting for those prizes, become a lottery ticket investor! As one guy put it, it's like owning the Mona Lisa! (doesn't know that just because you bought the product doesn't mean you own part of the business)

@@FUBARGunpla reminds me of those books "how I made a million dollars in 3 months and you can too!"

@@videorowtv5198 hahah yeah actually, anything that tries to sell itself as over night life changing is horse shit. The people defending this garbage are absolutely the type of people to be scammed by either. Or hell by religious ministries like peter popofs, or microsoft edge, or even this shittier version of sim city where you buy and sell map quest map pictures and pretend your investors hahaha

@@FUBARGunpla Yeah exactly, it's sad that people still believe in these scams and marketing schemes. We live in a time where people thing they are protected against everything, so they can do anything without a risk. They look at social media and see a rich guy they don't even know saying he made money that way, so they think to themselves "he's rich so he knows what he's doing, it can't possibly be a scam", sad.

Why…….Nobody in the UK claims him.

English people always apologise even if they're right, i love that

I second this!

Don't sweat it mate. Init

@@RealYunoCS Canadians got it from somewhere. And the French are known for everything but being apologetic

me buying the entirety of Antarctica but not being able to travel to it :

@@cl570 nice pfp

When I first heard abt this the first thing I did was check if A51 had free squares

Buy my house and try visit it see what happens. It'll be just like Smackdown mixed with MMA unleashed but more real feeling.

I can spend $10 and do the same thing in wander VR

Someone said it praise da lord 😩🙏🙏💯

based

Your an investor who consumes.

Unless you can find a bigger sucker to pay more than you paid for your square on a digital map, yeah.

A consoomer*

Its not even that, its a call to authority. The people behind it are not famous for creating good products, but for being involved in most shady but biggest organizations in the world like google or facebook. This isnt a case of Hideo Kojima coming out to make this, someone who actually made a dozen games in 30 years, it would be like a random ass "manager" who worked on a Kojima game did. Its just "trust him bro, he had a fancy sounding position in a big company once". This is what happens when media propaganda teaches the people to "trust the experts" or "trust the science", just trust them bro.

@@googleslocik you make a good point. Its not even the actual co founder of Oculus for example, its just the south korea brand manager. Sure he has business savvy but the selling point and trust falls on the 'co founder' label. The call to authority is scary, especially since the main point the guy is making is all about 'trusting' these people

FUD

He is angry that because Scam-videos come out he cannot cash out.

@@ZarkowsWorld Were i to put on the tinfoil it's because he knows, without new buyers, he ain't getting money back. It's a game of hot potato, however has it last, loses everything.

Mike the Bipolar Marine

Time stamp?

@@aperson4057 it was from "Fake Devs Get Roasted By Bigfry!"

It might not be relevant to the video, but thank you so much for reminding me of THAT video XD

You should try being a politician, he'd fit right in.

He* God damn autocorrect.

I was thinking the same! Same way of hostility, ranting with no end and typical avoiding giving straight answers.

What gets me the most is. Unlike a flat earther, he is struggling, so hard for it to make logical sense, as he explains it. You hear the desperation in his voice, trying to make sense of this shit, to defend his investment. And when he can't, the insults starts flying like free candy, at a candy store.

Eddy bravo: you gotta look into it…

Yeah, the flerf vibes was strong. But at the end it almost seemed like he could be reasoned with and he could eventually be made to understand that he invested purely on name authority and absolutely no proof the game functions will actually be delivered.

Or a ancient astronaut believer.

Oh shit lmao

Holy fuck ahahahaha

Its true lol

Talentless writer pfp ftw

affect*

Yahhh and that the sad part about pyramid scheme. People have too much ego that they will not admit and will want to pull more people in.

Listen... listen... listen... its a new world, listen listen you're going to jail if you talk shit about the company i spend every penny and use my coupin for 5% FTUY65 THANKSZ

I actually think he has a very very open mind. He's so open to ideas that he will believe anything. They'd invest in time travel if someone with a big name like Musk said they were going to work on it.

built his house out of tiles lmao

> "squarely" > tiles aaa I see what you did there

wait till he learns that fiat currency, covid vaccines/lockdowns/masks, and voting are all scams.

@@TheBelrick explain

​@@xcybitt721 mate, those are big subjects that require honest investigation of and a willingness to reflect upon what we believe to be true. Basically most of what we know is a lie and deliberate ones at that. We are lied to so that we can be controlled and refrained.

@@TheBelrick they're not

@@minderbart1 your world is determined by others. You could not even observe the plague going through the so called vaccinated population and wonder, why in this instance is the vaccine called effective yet everyone still catches the virus? Unlike any prior vaccine in history.

same with "look at the people behind it" many MLMs have experienced business people behind it. Because they actually make the money. Same with Earth2. They are effectively now the bank for all the investments and laugh in interest

this classic move is called "projection" :D

Its easy to let idiots show the world how stupid they are. I enjoy it

You know what good point

It's not his first time to deal with those kind of people

Tbh fry and his friend also interrupted him, almost more actually

@Winter what no i was just suprised that nobody defended him, and come on 2 comments wow

This is a pyramid scheme. No real value is made, only way to get your money out is to get other people's "investment". Preventing people from "investing" is preventing them from becoming victim of the scam.

All of the talk of this on RU-vid and I don't even know what the 'game' is. Have the 'dev team' even showed anything resembling a game? All I see is buying and selling google earth tiles and I don't know for what.

These sort of things collapse no matter what, the point is to reach a high point first

@@ionezgb pyramid schemes create value, perhaps dubious value, but they provide some sort of service or product. This is a ponzi scheme; new entrants pay to cover the profits of old investors. The scheme provides no real value, is built on lies and vague promises with the goal of convincing gullible investors to buy into the lie

@@savior_protector1721 No, they dont. There IS no 'product'. The only reason given to invest (to buy tiles), is the 'promise' they will go up in value and you can sell them later for more than you bought them for. That's pretty much the definition of a ponzi scam.

Scaring them away to make sure they don't waste their entire life savings on a obvious scam.

Scaring them away to make sure they don't waste their entire life savings on a obvious scam.

i think that this guy had the same experience like me with bitcoin (back when bitcoin came out and was dirt cheap i thought about investing couple bucks but thought it would be a waste of money) and know he wasted a ton of money for this in hope it will blow up like bitcoin did and when people say its a scam hes getting scared about his money.

This comment essentially sums up what I think about this entire “game”.

I don't think BigFry his opinion is "educated". As I've followed E2 for a little over 8 months now and seen his videos, a lot of things BigFry said in the previous video as well are said due to being mis or underinformed and not even understanding the thing to the fullest. (So no educated opinion). I'm in no way trying to defend E2. But It's a little sad to see all this judging and throwing out such heavy words without even understanding things to the fullest. I've seen the same with games being in Beta and Alpha, BigFry playing 2-3 games and making a video of how the game works. While half of the information is wrong... Yet people believe it blindly, being just as "naive" as people in the comment section call the E2 supports "naive".

And he thinks a small indie studio made up of a couple of nobodies will do that when some billion dollar game companies can't even do it.

@@danialyousaf6456 Everyone's gotta start somewhere

Lmao, Ready Player One is uh, still a few years away.

@@princeslewis yeah gotta start somewhere. Somewhere possible

@@scootsmcgoots nah man it'll come next week

I love Bigfry rants

He can sell anytime if he wanted there are tons of buyers lmao

@@cosmo6052 trust me, one day he can no longer withdraw his funds and the devs will take all of his funds.

@@cosmo6052 and to convert it into real cash he just has to provide his real info to some sketchy company. If they would support paypal to withdraw funds i dont think many people would call it a scam

@@gunschlinger Well you have to provide this info in every other site that includes withdrawing money, including poker sites etc, if they were not asking for this info, it would concern me more

@@cosmo6052 or they could use paypal instead

Why are you trying to kill people?

hell or even "yeah"

Twhwat shqwas ufun!

It's a good job it's a bank holiday here in England. My liver would need the extra day to recover after this fun drinking game. 🍺

Or when he says “you understand?”

Age doesn't mean much when it comes to investing. Older people fall for all kinds of scam investments.

@@padmad3832 common sense

People reacted the same when i bought bitcoin early on. It's high risk but if you want to have high profit you will have to risk something and buy in early. Could work out, could go wrong but with bitcoin it worked pretty fine for me.

@@Ralferator Frankly the people behind this scam should be jailed.

Age only means you've shit a lot more than me, and depending on who they are, they could either be full of shit, or are The Shit, theres usually little in between but there are the exceptions.

and they said they wont be mad at the dev if it fails because investment is a risk. lmaoo

Savage

@@count_dcinamon Sad.

@@count_dcinamon fax

Damn, it is so easy to scam people nowadays

Never heard about E2 before. But this guy sure helped me to stay away from it.

Bro, I'm a gamedev as well and I can confirm. MapBox is exactly what you described. They think this Earth 2 will change the world but it's only MapBox with tiles to buy

I'm a halfassed technical trainer for a little networking software company and I know better for goodness' sake. /smh

@@Archangelm127 I'm a poor 19 year old unemployed Otaku and I know better.

And if it were to happen, this isn't the team that would pull it off. Even the higher profile names he kept mentioning aren't on the actual dev team. They're just listed as advisers. The production lead's biggest credit is an expansion for The Guild 2. The dev lead's biggest credential is a mediocre indy game and the fourth best terrain generation tool on the Unity asset store. If you want to know what this team is capable of, you can download D.R.O.N.E. and see. And, uhm, it ain't quite Ready Player One.

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 False. Look at their social media and Discord server. It's full of people who are a lot younger than 50-60.

Looks like a scheme in the making, it’s sounding almost like how the eula in most steam games states that they’re licensing the game out to you instead of selling them and can retract the license at any given time

"i've checked all the backgrounds and stuff before investing, its not a scam!". *Skips over reading the ToS* Jesus Christ lmao. I almost feel bad for these people who invest into any scam.

You don't buy Bitcoin from Bitcoin. Earth2 sets itself up as the central authority. It's the exact opposite of crypto. Bitcoin was big so this will be too. It's like saying that every business that isn't profitable is Amazon.

So, you're "buying" "land" from a company with real money, and their TOS states that whatever you bought isn't yours. Yeah, sure. Lemme dump all of my savings on this.

@@denniscleaver3559 You forgot the quotes around "company" ;)

Sounds like the same exact thing that is and probably will happen with the Dreamworld supporters.

Yep they're going to cut and run when they have the right amount of capital and you'll never hear from any of them again

It reminds me with Quadriga CX.

@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 looks like RAW

@@atticusfelton3151 I was just about to say that it was a similar controversy, I was dumb and invested in RAW when I first saw about it(invested about $23) and was truly hoping for a game like it. It showed fancy graphics something captivating, but not really where your money would got to. Luckily I nested through kickstarter at the time and they caught on to what they were doing and stop their kickstarter and refunded everyone back their money.

they're deserved to be scam by those devs.

Would you buy crypto? Or work for currency? The same thing my dude.

@@Kontroll343 Yeah, it's the same thing. But the premise is absurd. Bitcoin is an asset and can be used as currency, and other crypto can be used for so many more things than Earth 2 tiles. They are essentially stocks with no institutional backing. It's a gambling simulator.

@@brandonerwin7031 The problem is that it is a classic pump and dump where people arent being honest about it.

why own real money when u can have bitcoin

@@brandonerwin7031 as are all stocks, currency or crypto trading situations and all crypto is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it as they aren't backed by anything. Not all crypto is usable to purchase things with, that's why dogecoin shot up exponentially recently as Elon Musk claimed he would be utilising it for his businesses. At the end of the day I wouldn't invest in this "game". But I wouldn't think that I'm above anyone who does, especially if I had a platform such as Big Fry as my opinion could have an impact on the value. If it does well then power to the people who did and if it's bums out well, that's a bit funny.

Yeah it's like investing in a flying car company that will have the tech in 60 years to start producing a product.

Trust me, that guy is WAY worse 😂

The exact sort of person that scammers love.

"ur fake news bruv" hahahah this guy

I have a friend who just recently developed major schizophrenic symptoms (not sure if it’s that or something else, but sure looks like it). This guy sounds EXACTLY like him. Strong delusions, non-stop talking, won’t listen to a word anyone else says, keeps trying to “explain” shit without saying anything, and just laughing at the fact that others don’t believe them. It’s sad.

@@seanrrr I AM Schizophrenic, and I'm nothing like that 😂

That's how you try avoiding answering all the questions.

yes, bigfry is scaring his ponzi scheme away

If Earth 2 was actually legit then it would be a really good way to invest your money. I wish

@@RealYunoCS virtual worlds have been around for decades, they've never been as popular as predicted.

@@kbbbb7 Problem is anyone can make an Earth 3 and all of a sudden earth 2 is useless. then earth 4. crazy how people get caught up in these empty and fruitless projects

@@shosc16 but it is blockchain and therefore cannot be reproduced, meeeeeeeeh

@@shosc16 flat earth 2 Invest now!!!!!!!

He will lose his money soon enough

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 u know it bad when Arya lost his top 50 position on the leaderboard

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 yeah, and Arya (the top 50) investor is claiming it success while withdrawing his whole investment at the same time. It can’t get more ironic than this💀😭

@@khangvinh4656 have to keep the hamsters reeled in as you pump and dump the ponzi scheme.

He kept interrupting, but still had the audacity to say "leT mE tAlK mAtE"

He sounds like someone stuck in an abusive relationship lol

It's always the smart comments that don't get the most likes. Sad but true

@@chrischickering1959 - essentially. It's findom minus the sexual gratification.

Are you still alive ??

@@xSpooKee he ded..

I too am worried for your health @BilbsterMedia

Im gucci guys. I promise i shall never do this again!

@@BilbsterMedia holy shit it took 4 weeks, did you get alcohol poisoning lol 🤣

Technically the CEO lied about the data which hooked the big companies. She also lied about contracts that they had with the army.

the "trap" where you ask someone a question then cut him off start laughing and dont let him finish cause you "have a meeting in 30mins" ? that was some immature bs and had me dissapointed cause most of the vid regarding earth2 were factual and informative ( in my opion earth 2 is most likely a scam but you cant prove it and therefor calling it a scam this early in development is prolly not fair) im not invested in tiles or have a refereal code in case you wonder i just dont like how this convo was handled :)

YOLO all the way in

@@nuzzles7607 no, the "trap" of getting him to acknowledge that he bought into the project on the basis that all the functionality will be implemented. If they are not implemented, he bought on false premises. Selling something on false premises has a word.

@@viddeliten Its scam right? THe word is scam?

@@DrMurdercock yes. Even if it would be unintentional from the seller's side, the buyer still get scammed.

I went in there discord asking what is the game and got roasted a little lmao they was mad

do they accept mom bucks?

Maybe some Candice shillings

@@unknownegghead3105 possibly a septim or two?

It's hard to believe but the "I can't read so this sign can't stop me" meme has a new template, Earth 2 but I bought into it and I'm in denial that I'll be eating dirt while I watch my house get repo'd by the bank.

People did the same thing to Tesla.

@@BukitMan Tesla was kinda whacky too

@@XraynPR made it despite the criticism

@@BukitMan didn't he die alone and poor? I'm sure he did some interesting stuff, but I don't understand why so many people seem to think of Tesla as some sort of messiah figure

@@Meatloaf_TV You can re watch live streams on Twitch.

bUT iTs aN iNvEstMEnT!!!1

ITS NOT GOOGLE MAPS ITS SOME SPECIAL MAP THATS TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Bigfry shows map on page compared to google maps is identical.

Also crazy that the guy doesnt understand unlike bit coin, this company guy owns everything and has full say who gets money and can take the money and run anytime.

WASSAP WASSAP WASSAP

Hey hey hee*voicecrack*eey~

I dunno man. With all the "bruvs" "listen 'ere mate!" and "yea" I feel like he gave us a good depiction of what its like to talk to an angry Brit.

@@christianvazquez8606 Britain and England are two different things for a start, they're several different countries. Many angry "brits" would just start fighting in person, I work with plenty of them as I'm a Prison Officer.

@@christianvazquez8606 Heard plenty of Spanish people shouting Carbrone and Ese, does that include every Spanish speaking person and country when they're angry?

Agreed please do not think we are all like this guy 🤣

@@fourlamb1 Well I am Peurto Rican (not Spanish but close enough) so........ But naw man I'm just joking with you. Let's not get too defensive, okay?

Brits have the best insults

I'm dying because of that one lmao

@Lee H I'm Scottish. Can confirm. Insults are a whole language of their own here

@Lee H It's great fun witnessing people who've not spent time around Scottish people hear 2 close Scottish friends talk to each other. They get so very confused. I love it

LMAO omg

DannyG moment

BRI'ISH people moment

@@BlastingBigLoads2 we dont claim him

@@BlastingBigLoads2 I bet he doesn’t even drink tea

Thats just second life lmao

Yup, me too. I own crypto and I have also studied blockchain technology (I am a computer engineer). Fascinating tech with huge potential in many areas, for example secure contracts. But I usually don't follow the crypto community, because many of them feel like cultists. To them, anything built with a blockchain is automatically wonderful and it will solve the world's problems, end poverty, end sickness, bring world peace.

@@oliver_twistor I have all my money in crypto but a lot of people don't understand how it works or why its useful ,its not uncommon for people to drop all of their money on shit coins in the hope that it will increase massively in value,look at doge coin for example: People tought it was the next bitcoin when its a shit coin with no cap on the amount of coins available and it had a capitalazation of 100billion with a disgustingly high number of doge coins in circulation,logically it can never be bitcoins because it would need a capitalazation of more hundreds of trillions,but people tought that would happen for some reason. There is a tendency to invest in things that have no value with the hope that it will increase massively in value when you could get amazing results by just investing in the ones that are useful. Another example is CHIA,its a fucking scam yet everyone is wild of it right now because most likely all the crypto channels have been paid off to do videos about it. If you want to help crypto grow all you need to do is learn about it,invest only in coins that are useful and educate people about it,I have co-workers that asked me how to buy since they want bitcoin,just don't be a cultist.

cypto should liberate mankind but instead it will lead to our enslavement :(

There's only one way they would happen. If the platform was dominant and there was no way for competitors to create something similar.

Another term they/ E2 defender like to use is : -KYS (Know Your Customer) My answer :" KYS already implemented and standarized by every banks around the world for transaction in 2003. Historicaly US bank already have their own KYS and Bank Of America using KYS for international transaction in '90 (maybe late '80) after rampant credit card thief which most victim comes from US tourist. - Partner with Mastercard My answer : " Mastercard only partnered with Banks and Financial Institutions. E2 only use their system for transaction".

Why didn't he just say he would have a showroom there as well if the game becomes popular enough. If fornite or roblox were augmented reality and they aloud showrooms where you can buy nft versions of that car to use in the world then you can be pretty sure all manufacturers will get involved.

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 As it stands you’re right there is no reason, but it is inevitable that VR/AR world will exist one day whether that be 5 or 100 years time. NFTs will be looked at very differently by that point, most likely an NFT for any real world object you want in VR. Tesla like many others by that stage will want people to know you can use their car it those worlds so its very likely the most popular metaverses will have showrooms.

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 100% agree there will multiple virtual worlds. The idea of the nft is so you can buy it once and use wherever because you own it. The finacial side of it won't be an issue not like manufacturing real cars. Selling nfts of their cars will just be advertisement for their real world ventures. People will want to upgrade nfts as new cars come out. Their own websites will be their main point of sales but if there's worlds with thousands of people running round then they would advertise there too. Like saying why are there showrooms in the real world when they are not needed. Its because its better to have them too

Fuck it make Earth 10 and advertise it as 5 times better, lol.

They wouldn’t even need to develop it much more in order to ‘justify’ the release of E3 further.

Correct, my guess is he has already realized that this scam will only work out in his favor if others buy into it and he’s able to sell out at a profit and get out before it inevitably crashes.

this, i also think hes worried that everyone interested in joining will have second thought and made him unable to sell his tiles.

Smart.

:fart:

Shart

Maybe do what about this vid is about : Do research before stating something thats not the reality. Heared the same rumors, started digging, and the real story is kinda different as the populair believe made up by but-hurt fanbois. I give an hint, VISA's and contracts

@@arranchace1306 do my research? lol are you for real, what was i wrong about in my post? sounds like your the butt-hurt fanboi

Well there are no "backers" as it was never a kickstarter game but there were early adopters of the super shitty alpha. Also its not exactly the same when there was an actual company working on it who replaced him when he left. I always felt people were too dramatic about Dean Hall, honestly he should have never been the figurehead of the standalone as putting together an Arma 2 mod does not qualify you to lead a multi-million dollar project with the playerbase and cultural influence DayZ had. Most of his ideas were impractical and just plain bad so him leaving was probably a good thing for the game as a whole.

@@silentninjat your a backer whether or not its a alpha or a kickstarter, your backing a companies idea on what they plan to offer you in the future by paying for it before its ready in other words, your backing their idea with your money, your rant aside, my point was people who are highly respected will risk their reputation if it means big $$ in the bank