@@DieFlabbergast Because the average brain washed westerner has a utopic vision of communism where everybody lives in a huge mansion and everybody has a nice car and can eat all the food they want and don't have to work or work only on their dream job like writing books or painting. Of course that is a childish vision that is exploited by evil people that want absolute control. The ones that have lived through the hell produced by the relentless pursuit of that utopia know that bullshit is not possible.
@@Uriel-Septim. I don't like the way it sounds in theory at all. It requires the breaking of at least two commandments - thou shall not covet, and thou shall not steal.
It should have been "If you don't learn from real history nothing will save you." because these comicrats really tricked everyone into believing the parties flipped some how
That right there put the bullet in communism's head. No sane person could come back from that. Of course, given that the left genuinely believes that a 165 pound male immediately gains comparable size and strength and athletic ability to a 110 pound female just by thinking he's a woman... sanity deserted them long ago.
The communists purged their own people. My co-worker is from South America. He says,"You can never be communist enough for them. If they don't *like* you, you'll get almost no food rations and you can't go to a hospital.... if you're lucky."
Did you know this famous quote from an CIA agent ? he said it before they left saigon like pussies (like in afghanistan and irak later) Usa is so doomed : ""It has been a long and hard fight and we have lost...Those who fail to learn from history are forced to repeat it. Let us hope that we will not have another Saigon experience and that we have learned our lesson" - Thomas Polgar, CIA station chief."
btw oncle Ho chi Minh was healed by cia doctor during pacific war with japan , like Al baghdadi was a prisoner of an american prison before being the chief of daesh
You cant properly give an opinion about what communism does. Communism treated you all bad cause u were enemies of the Soviets. My country Bulgaria experienced a golden era compared to today's fkin democracy. That is an undeniable fact. I piss on the fact that we can have iPhones today. It dont matter. Too many negative metrics during democracy. Now you gotta realise. Our new boss ain't a friend so. That's what it is about. Ideology barely matters. It matters what your status is whether it's free state, vassal or colony meant to be wiped out. If ur boss likes your attitude you may even live fine as a vassal.
@@Simba436 When there is no worthy point in rebelling try being smarter. Become friend or pretend to at the least. When u know Ur enemy has a working age male population beyond your entire nations population even despite losing so many in a war then you know there is no point. What are the expectations? Stalin will let you free cause you caused him 10k people loses in a uprising? The west will go sacrifice few million men to save Ur ars? What can be achieved?
"But it wasn't "REAL" (insert Marxist system here)!" None of them ever ARE, but it shows you the FLAW in the system from the beginning. People are people REGARDLESS of the system, and thinking the system will weed out bad guys is idiotic in the extreme.
I was debating my cousin who learned economics by being indoctrinated by a community college English teacher. He mentioned we need to be more like Cuba. I had to tell him people are fleeing Cuba on makeshift boats and are risking death to leave.
@@carbonfiberfan How are boomers worst? Give me a list, please. We didn't drain gas and electric with charging up iPhone, lap tops, computers, ipods. Needing the heating on. If it was cold we'd stick a jumper on. We walked or biked every where with our mates. Schools didn't close because of a bit of snow. We didn't demand air con during the summers. We left school and many went straight into full time work. Many left and joined the Army. We didn't live beyond our means nor take from society. If we need extra money as a kid we'd do paper rounds, cut neighbours grass, wash cars, sell our toys/items. We never took, we worked hard for everything we have. To be handed things for free was seen as an embarrassment, you were lazy and not doing enough. We ate what food was put on the table each night as we were grateful. We wasn't asked what would we like or given a choice of 10 different things. Take outs, and eating outs were a special time, you appreciate it. If a kid down the road couldn't afford a bike, other kids on the street that had a bike would share. If one kids mum brought her kid a ice cream, she'd buy all the kids her kid was hanging out with a ice cream. We all helped each other out, young and old, single mum or a family. If you acted up, didn't share, was rude, it wouldn't be tolerated. You'd be put straight, you'd learn some respect, then the next day it's all forgotten and we'd all be mates having a bbq together. Neighbours were a extended family. No one was a outsider, no one was left out. Todays world, is a very different place. Its very cold!
The response of clapping, smiling, and laughing as opposed to solemnity is strange. Feels more like winning a game than an earnest response to the tragedies of history & their potential future reemergence.
This is an extremely insightful comment. Some of them are focusing so much on being right that they are forgetting the purpose of these events in the first place.
Such is the state of western politics these days, everyone has been so divided by media echo chambers; separated into opposing groups with the gap between growing wider all the time because it is good for business.
@@hazardeur I think this is actually rooted in Western culture in general. Although it is seen most clearly in America and rivalrous individualism. We are mostly “united” to defeat the “evil”other. This may be controversial to add, but what the hell…I think the *honest* postmodern critique of objectivist knowledge is getting at a good path to ameliorating the disease. If so inclined, I highly recommend checking out the idea of personalism. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personalism And connected to that Rene Girard and Jacques Ellul. To demonize any person is to lose. We are all connected. We “win” or “lose” together. Edit: I’m a big fan of much of Western culture btw. But it’s not perfect.
Still right though, socialism, communism kills,takes,destroys. Capitalism might have its flaws but the world's poverty (places where Capitalism hS been allowed to flourish that is,)has lowered since it existence. In the ys if your struggling how much of it is your own fault? Real minimum wage is 0.00.
My nephew's fiance' is from Transylvania and came to this country for her college education. She is now an anesthesiologist and can't believe what is happening on our college campuses that is being spread by trained Marxists to affluent kids who have never wanted for anything and being promised everything by corrupt leftist politicians.......
I concur neighbour. It was the shittiest time for all of us under its yoke. Both our countries are still trying to recover from the damage that was caused by it.
Caveman: "This type of mushroom is poisonous. Trust me, I tried it, and I was throwing up all day, and Thog died after he ate some." Wokeman: "But you can still eat it, though."
Meanwhile a conservatist: Ok, I'll rather give up on mushrooms completely and never ever try anything different than the good old dirt with just the right amount of rocks:D Ah the US.. never able to come up with moderate solutions, getting the best out of both worlds. They'll rather keep fighting if someone used a correct pronounce or whether or not to renew slavery
I have met immigrants and worked with engineers from Poland, Rumania, Hungary, Chechia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine and other former USSR countries. None of them ever liked the USSR or communism. The only people I have me that do are a few Russians who want cradle to grave care from someone else. "But that wasn't communism." No, it is what communism always, ALWAYS, becomes. However, if you get enough useful idiots together...
@@vladimpaler3498 please don't make it sound like russians = communists. The biggest victims of this regime were russians. Why some still hold on it is because of many generations of brainwashing. The countries who got absorbed by USSR later got less influenced, so they could break free faster.
Ex Romanian citizen: the communist regime was terrible, my family was put in a labor camp and I never saw them again! Western college student: well, actualllly….🤦♂️
I know right. They're all about "respecting someone's lived experience." Until those lived experiences contradict the wokesters' warm, fuzzy, socialist delusions.
In the 1970s I drove trucks from England to the Middle East. Going from West Germany into East Germany was like going from full colour to black and white. A group of us had a meal in a restaurant and it was great. We gave the waitress a tip in West German marks instead of Ostmarks. She cried. Our tip was worth more than her weekly wage. Oh, and East Germany was one of the richer communist bloc countries. A border guard at the East German / Czech border asked how much I earned a week. I replied about $200 (everybody understood dollars) He sneered and asked why I would wear a torn jacket if I earned that much. It didn't matter to me, it was that simple. He obviously thought I was lying. In Bulgaria I accidentally drove through Sofia - I missed the ring road signs. I stopped at a supermarket to buy food. There were rows of shelves filled with what looked like canned grass - and very little else. There was a meat counter, which had sausage. I bought some with the money you had to exchange at the border, but it was inedible when I cooked it, mainly gristle and bread. I would be returning home. Those poor miserable people had to live there. I never went through Romania, but a couple of my friends took that route (you used to get what permits you could). When they returned home they begged old clothes from everyone and took them with them next trip. The Romanians were pathetically grateful for their gifts. Believe me, Communism does not work. I've seen the result.
You know that Life was quiet cheap in east germany? 40 Ostmark for rent, and the rest basically paid itself. The people had enough money. They just didnt had much to buy in the 80s. And that didnt get better until now. Now we can't afford anything.
@@DreisternSchweinefleisch not the first time I hear this "then there were nothing to buy but now we can't afford anything" narrative from ex-soviet country citizens who have their asses loaded with stuff. Idk, man, I live in a post soviet country and looking at the cars in the street, new houses being built, I'm still trying to find that "now we can't afford anything". And when I ask some people (usually older ones who are poor, worked in plants and didn't have any education above high school) what was so good about soviet union, all they can come up with is "some stuff was free and nobody had more than me" and damn boy such people aren't the ones I look up to or want to allign myself with.
I'm from ex-Yugoslavia. The country was a bit more leniant with the west and so it allowed, for example, Coca Cola to be sold in supermarkets. Since Romania borders Serbia (also a part of ex-Yu) people would smuggle coca cola over the border and were amazed by what we had (even if it wasn't that much). But everything else was the same as in other commie countries. Assassinations, secret state police, evasdroping, one party state, dictatorship, buying jam wrapped in newspapers...
Something ironic about Bulgarians is that a lot of them praise communism, including my parents. They would always talk about how the food used to be better, how everyone was getting the same amount as the other, there wasn't much crime, hell my grandma thinks people used to be a lot nicer. I don't understand them, yeah okay you lived good for few decades ( in the case of my parents a few years, they were only like 9 when communism ended here) but did ya really think self-sustaining economy was gonna last forever, do you really think it was fair to send people to work camps (a place where they made you work to dead because you didn't work normally or your views were a little different than the ruling party), where in school they were a lot more strict (and abusive, donno they sound like that they don't treat children with empathy or like what they are - a kid) and could have been easily suspended because you didn't go to celebration outside of school, where when you look back everything feels so limiting and if ya lived during that time you feel like you could have been on thin ice.
Wow, how u got internet access there....i was in Cuba in 2014 and only the citizens who worked in hotels or other public or touristy places could use the internet there
Is it like that internet in cuba is really really diffrent from ours here in democratic countries Edit: by diffrent i mean very limited, and do they sell it like a limited Service or something?
Cuba is doing OK if normal citizens have free internet and can communicate with us, compared to places like North Korea (no internet with the outside world, period).
Unfortunately, it doesn't work. University students will just say that "their version communism/socialism wasn't implemented right". They have this idea that their version of communism/socialism, their magical working version of communism/socialism, is the end-all for it.
@@yufeng1707 True, that's what Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Castro, & the rest of em' said. Then they proceeded to kill all the 1's B4 them that didn't implement it right
@Incognegro sounds silly, but I honestly think some of them are. It's either that or they have so much pride that they can't admit they might be wrong.
Communism is an attractive ideology created by a genius. Its simplicity makes it attractive to so many. But life is far too complicated to be constrained to such a simple set of ideas. One simple axiom that is missing from communism is competition. Life itself only exists through competition. If you remove competition you remove life. What is the point in me trying if I cannot win?
Good take. People often forget about it when talking about communism. It's literally against human nature. We as humans like competition. It drives us forward as race.
I wouldn't say it's really simple. It's just that it has been dumbed down for the general masses that they have no idea what kind of evil they are getting themselves into
One could argue that cooperation increased humans' fittness and that's why we developed language and society, but even then it was one group of people against another group. What i heard from communism from wittnesses (i live in a country right west to the iron courtain and many eastern europeans fled the eastern block to live here) it was the catastrophic food production. Without a reward for extra work, there was little incentive to produce more food than the quota says. Also due to the mismanagement of the party, farms where highly inefficient. Many kids of people that lived in communist countries became extremely pro- free market, maybe even swinging back into the other extreme like (in my personal opinion) Ayn Rand.
@@N4chtigall It's highly dependent on how you are raised by your parents and your surroundings. They can pass on you a ''tryhard to be better than others'' as well as ''tryhard to achieve something big and do great things'' attitude. The first option often results in being a selfish spineless d-head tho.
Communism is a tool that gives a slave power to become the master. Once he gets there the cycle repeats. If you look at countries where communistic revolutions worked most off them became capitalist or strict monarchies like North Korea. Why? because just as there were no room to fill (as you know communistic system limits greedy peeps severely) they all went like ok we got rid of the masters who were limiting us! So lets enjoy it now we are the top now! And so Soviet Union broke up & turned capitalist, Eastern block also, so that these guys who were from the bottom could become the new olighargs and do whatever the old ones did a century ago. China had their own way of flipping to a capie country. North Korea became a monarchy once again with new elite that century ago where bottom class.
My first 7 years were in communist Romania. I can speak from my own experience. My brother was born in 87", 2 years before communism fell. One day my mother spent a few hours to buy 2kg of apples (life is not the best in Romania now but you have apples and most fruits from the world everywhere, many differnent types of apples). I was almost 5, I was eating one apple at the balcony, we were living on the 1st floor. SOme kids were playing outside, they asked if I could share a few apples. I shared almost all of them with the kids. There were only 2 apples left, when my parents noticed my father gave me a serious beating (for a few apples!!!). Everybody was stressed and on edge becuase times were hard. One day I was with my mom in a massive queue to buy bread (I think there was 1 bread for a person and half for a child). There was only one type of bread, now you have a lot of options and there is no queue. While we were sitting in the queue, a pregnant woman skipped the queue. People let her thru, nobody complained, but I asked my mom "Why is that woman skipping the queue?" "Because she is pregnant and she can go in front". It didn't seem fair to me. That is a psychological result of what communism does to one, even to kids. It made us more frustrated, selfish and angry, because how hard the times were during communism. It is true that you had punch card. It is true that you couldn't choose a car, maybe the colour if you knew someone from the party, and you had to wait a long time until you got the car. There was also the state security that was spying on everyone. Almost all mails were read by the state security, 100% of all mails that were going outside the country were read by the state security. I could write thousands of words of how bad communism was.
Ame here bro. I also was born in 1987, I was 2 years old when the revolution happened in 1989. Everyone had money and a lot. But you couldn't practically buy anything, neither freedoom. I do remember that oranges and bananas and mandarines we're available durring christmass most of the time. You couldn't live country without permission from goverment. And God forbid anyone who would speak against it or protest against the regime, You would dissapear and no one would know. Soo many things i have seen as a child and i will never forget it. Silly people around the world think that communism is good? You know nothing about darkness and suffering. Yet aline about dictatorship. In dictatorship you nothing else but an slave. You Americans should be glad and happy you don't have to live under occupation.
@@soberanisfam1323 "the right" 🤣🤣 there is no left or right buddy. There is but one society. Politics: nationalistic and globalistic. The one wants to preserve its sovereign identity and the other wants to steal our souls so we dont belong anywhere
@Jac Yugoslavia je donekle uspela, ne bas tolko, a razlog uspeha jeste bio veliki broj zemalja ujedinjen u jednu zemlju. Tako da je drustvena podela rada bila rasprostranjena sirom zemlje. Ipak ne znam da li bi danasnji ljudi bili zadovoljni ostvarenim rezultatima, posto nije bilo ta-da, tolko izbora sta si mogao da imas.
@Jac it's not uncommon for old people to feel nostalgic for communism, that's all they knew, and now they think there's too much degradation, my grandma is the same, "at least we had free electricity" lol then she comes to her senses and cries remembering the nothingness and the hard work.
Romanian here wanting to add something: when you spoke out against the system you get penalties like lose your job and your employment options or even go to jail (maybe never come back). These idiologs don't know what they are advocating for.
You do realize that countries such as Sweden and the USA literally had a blacklist for "suspected communists" where employers would deny people on that list employment, sometimes communists were even sent to jail for simply having the courage to speak out against the oppresive system. How can anyone call USA a democracy when some peoples voices are being actively supressed. During the first red scare, communist party meetings were frequently raided by the FBI simply for "national defence" the US government funded white supremacists to interrupt black civil rights movements. The US frequently funded right wing death squads in continents like africa and south america. A good example of this is when the US helped the soon to be oppresive dictator Pinochet take over the Socialist government led by Salvador Allende by forcing him to step down. Pinochet and his army went to the presidental palace and opened fire at the palace. After a heartbreaking speech Allende took his own life by shooting himself with an AK47. A quote from this final speech is: "Placed in a historic transition, I will pay for loyalty to the people with my life.“ Edit: Pinochet would also torture political opponents and infamously throw people out of helicopters to their own painful death. And you meantioned "These idiologs don't know what they are advocating for." I'm not sure what you're smoking but I must say that's a ridiculous argument. Also you said that if someone "spoke out against the system you can lose your job" even though socialist nations such as the USSR and the GDR had zero unemployment.
I grew up under communism. If I had to define what I feel about socialism, communism, and unfortunately liberalism today in one word: that would be: despise.
I lived in Bucharest and was 10 yrs old when communism ended. Life in communism was real nightmare. Everything you owned was of the lowest possible quality, building quality stuff is not specific to communism. If it was something resembling quality it was exported. You owned almost nothing. If you have a small portion of land you had to plant and process stuff for the state. Had to wait years to receive a car you payed for (around 50 salaries was the cost of a car), the quality of the car was horrible, there was only choice for the color, if you bribed. Also the corruption was huge in every aspect, the best stuff was reserved only for those in power. Also destroyed a lot of the the cool pre-communist architecture, to make room for typical communist buildings, or just to change the past ideology, like the talibans destroying the buddhist statues.
I lived in Soviet Union. Long lines for simple goods as food was every day. Salaries were low. Some people of elite has much higher and tgey had special shops where you can get goods that were not accesible to every day folk as my parents. Comunists blamed that on capitalist countries that they made tough life for us, but butter, coffe, tea, bread vegetables and meat are not something you need to import from capitalists, but you can grow them on your big and wast land. People just did not want to work hard in Soviet system if there is no important benefits from that. Western students are stupid irresponsible youngsters who just want hipe for free.
And now you plant and process food for the corporations. Clap, clap. If you don't pay enough you also get the low quality stuff... You pay to the state that feeds the private sector. You worked miserable for the whole society, now whole society works for the few
@@oktogen1476 If you cant access to good stuff its because you are poor, and have a shit job. its all your fault, because u didnt putt effort in aquire a skill that pays you well. so if you want communism, go live in cuba or north korea, they will give you bread and maybe some rice to cook.
I'm Romanian, I'm grown-up under Communist Regime. At six year old I was staying from 6 in the morning at the human tail to bread, so my parents could make ready my sisters and my little brother for school and kindergarden. Sometime was not for bread, but for yoghurt, milk or even (a rare miracle!) for some cheese. At 7 in the morning my mother (or, if he was in the night shift, my father) come to take my place... if the bread (or the milk, or the yoghurt...) was not already entirely bought. In that case, I was coming home defeated. We had the right to buy 4 breads at 2 days, as we were six people family. Everytime was somebody yelling at me: "You bribe the seller to take so many bread, little thief!". To put something on the table at lunch my parents spent at least threr hours per day at the "tails" as we call it the long human chains waiting for their turn to buy something. I sow people fighting each other for a loaf of bread, a piece of cheese, or even for toilet paper! I saw people taken form the shoping tails by policemen or Security people (Security = Securitatea = Communist Secret Service in Romania). Thy were arrested for making jokes about regime. That's happen too in US today, with anti-"Let's go Brandon" mediatic hysteria; you can think is a joke, but is just the start of the speaking police (in fact, it started with censoring some words and some ideas, now is just spreading it's power). I saw family distroyed by Securitate's agents, people beaten on the streets by Militia (Communist Police) just because. (Because the policeman liked the daughter of the family but she didn't stay to be f*cked; because the Securitate's agent wanted a promotion and needed to find someone "guilty" of something; because the Securitate's agent wanted to f*ck a wife and she didn't said "yes"; because a good friend of yours, wanting a promotion, or a travel in other country, dennounced you for saying something forbidden etc. ,etc.). I saw people tortured and killed by Communist Regime, just because. I fought against Communism as I could. And now I see the last bastion of freedom, USA, becoming Communist. I now that nobody care about my fight or my life, about the suffering we go through because of Communism. But I make my duty to warn you: fight against Communism with all you have, or you will live in Hell. Believe me, the Communism is not politics, is religion - Satan's true religion. I was there, I know.
I have studied and read a lot about North Korea and visited there in 2015 in a group tour as many former Communist countries only allowed you to visit in group tours. This rationing system is the norm there and food and supply shortages are very common there. Ceucescu was a good friend of Kim Ill Sung and tried to use his model on Romania but failed. Also I have visited Mongolia and Russia. Even though they aren’t Socialist anymore but the brutalistic architecture still remains in many places. They are very intimidating and give you the feeling that you are being watched or followed. I went inside some of the buildings just to take a peek and it gave me the chills. Very drab, bleak and monotonous in design they were.
@@Alburr250 Yes, and often built with so little care for the people! In our Communist building there was dampness and mildew (a black mold) on the walls. If in winter we had 10 Celsius in apartments it was very good. (10°C means 50 Fahrenheit) The Communists forced us to build apartment buildings with fireplaces. But was one fireplace for an apartment and the wood was very hard to come by. And many times, even if you could buy some, was wet and rotten. Every good or even just decent wood was throw into the industry machines, to become furniture, toys, or anything that could go on export. Even the matches for internal (Communist) trade were made of very bad wood. So, the people were frozen around the lukewarm fireplaces. The only way out of death by frozen in the winter for this people was to still some wood or charcoal - if they were working in a (big) power plant on charcoal. The apartments building connected to such power plants were supposed to have been warmer: the heat excess from power plants was directed it. But they put to many buldings around every power plant. So the heat was just enough to not die. And this was just a gentler side of Communism.
Romanians, Hungarians, Poles, Estonians, Lithuanians,Croatians, Slovakians, especially anyone who lived there between the 1940's and 1990's... we all know.
Well in Yugoslavia we had communism and one off best like free education and medical needs better then now for poor people no one was starving or begging on street and we had lots off people from Poland coming to sell stuff on bazar like Yugoslavia wasn’t that bad like Romania or Poland and others ,we were one off richest communists country and I know I grow up there from 80s to 90s
@@slavonijacro I grew up in Poland in the 70's. It was brutal. Bread lines and meat rations , but no guarantee you would receive bread or meat by the time you got to the front of the line. People starving, harassed and fined and arrested by the government for killing their own livestock to feed their families. People turned against each other. Free school in Poland was nothing more than indoctrination and the free healthcare was terrible because they really didn't do anything because of lack of resources. My mom was a nurse.
As a Romanian, I have seen 3 types people living today who regret communism: 1. People who worked for the Security and had different social and economical privileges compared to those who didn't. 2. People who hated communism but love it know when realized that capitalism is all about personal responsibility and hard work. And they were used to having Big Daddy look after them. 3. People who've never lived in communism but idealize it, not realizing that their ideas of communism have nothing to do with the real deal.
+4 who are very old, and only miss being young. On first glance it seems they miss communism, but if questioned, they will admit that the system was shitty and they are only nostalgic because then they were younger and healthier.
It's not about communism vs capitalism and 'individual responsibility'. The leaders of the communist regime were the same in Romania as the following capitalist regime. Totalitarianism needs to be stopped just as much as unsustainable monopolies.
You omited at point 2 to include the people that actually hated it back then but miss it today because of the current incompetent political elite we have today USR (modern marxist simpatisers -unbeknownst to them) included.
I am from Romania to (living now for 12 years in Germany), and what he describes is absolutely true, i would say even a bit softly described. I was 19 when Ceausescu fell and i was aware how it was. Specially starting from '80-'82, when he started his visits in the far east, in North Korea. He liked what he saw here, and applied in Romania...starting, of course, with a savage cult of personality.
Saw this stuff going around saying in America your neighborhood you grew up in can determine your future. This man comes from ROMANIA. He’s smart, talented, charming, and an excellent speaker. Never believe any of that nonsense, your neighborhood only determines your future if you’re lazy.
Unlike the young gentleman here, I am old enough to remember communism in Romania. I live in the US now. I couldn't leave fast enough after the regime fell. What made Romanian communism particularly unbearable was the absolute dictatorship and the "cult of personality" . Read about it here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality. As the host said ... "Ceausescu". For this reason, I am absolutely terrified to see what happens to the US now. It starts with one charming person with a following who thinks and says he deserves 3 terms and it ends with rations and punch cards for food. It can happen here, too. Please, please, please wake up. You really, really don't know how good you/we (still) have it. Can we put county before ego and have a civil conversation? We are in this together, no matter how much politicians and fake Messiahs divide us.
These "communists" in America that want a communist society and economy don't understand that once the revolution is said and done, I'm 97% sure a charismatic man will assert "party loyalty" and eventually develop a cult of his own. We have so many examples across history of this happening in the last 100 years that like the gentleman said in the video "If you don't learn from history, nothing will save you".
For who are you warning? Is there actually a communist movement growing in the US? I find that hard to believe... Only person which could fall into your description is Trump imo, which is far from a communist, but certainly someone who think he deserved 3 terms and wants to put his puppets on all major positions which is a start to.....
@@Draregkoeliekalie I have never met a communist in person or seen one on TV in the US. I am very worried of what I saw brewing over the past 4 years and scared it will come back in any shape or form. I am worried about people following a fake Messiah. I am worried about how scarce decency and sanity can become. For the US and anywhere in the world, I am NOT worried about communism. That one failed a long time ago and I predict it will be soon be gone from the pockets it still lingers in. I am worried about dictatorship. I see people behaving like kids scared of the boogie man (spoiler alert : he doesn't exist) but kiss the grabby uncle. To your guess - spot om, I am surprised my message was THAT opaque.
I'm not Eastern European, I'm Venezuelan and I experienced socialism for 10 years until I fled my country. I'm very happy there's people speaking about the atrocities of this ideologies
My grandparents (God rest their Souls) came from communist Czechoslovakia and my grandfather would always tell me "do not trust a Bolshevik (communist). It sickens me to see these young people promoting communism. Thankfully there are many that do not and will hopefully keep fighting for the survival of the country.
@Mrkvomil tato I do, and I came from there as well. Czechoslovakia was the best communist country BY FAR and yet, people still risked their lives to escape from there. That tells you something...
@True Citizen Man, I am from there as well, and I remember my old neighbor. When he got angry he used those swear words: "Communist," "communist bitch," "Lenin", Lenin's bitch" "bolshevik dirt" and "Stalin." And I am not kidding those he used with tremendous anger. Every time when he got mad, he swore like this with all the nuances he could put on it. As a young child, I laughed at it, and didn't understand why. Now I know. Communists took everything from them (like from my grandparents but they were more gentle and more religious people). Grandpa always warned me about them as well. Never said anything good about them once. But know this. It all started decades ago, not just recently. They were preparing the scene. As soon as they managed to get rid of God form people's minds and hearts, their road is paved... Whoever thinks that anything but Gospel of Jesus Christ can save America is a fool. Gospel is what America was founded on. Once thay is removed, America no longer exists...
I too grew up in a socialist economic system, and I totally agree. As a fellow finance professor, also from Romania, used to say: if you think socialism is a good idea, just ask anyone from Russia, Romania, India, Cuba, Venezuela...
It's the curse of a generation who have had everything, handed to them on a plate. From the freedom to express these crazy ideas, to free wifi, everything is expected and taken for granted. There is an arrogance in people who think they know and are better than those before them.
can you blame them? they've had access to safety and peace in America for the last twenty years and grew up almost entirely alongside technology that is most certainly affecting our brains
@@haghendowdy4750 I don't blame them, that's why I said it's a curse. To be honest, I'm more inclined to blame the people who raised them. But again, blame is the wrong word. It's inevitable, the further we get from the sacrifices and suffering those before us endured, the less we value and respect it. Time passes and we forget. Then history repeats.
In 1988 I saw, travelling with parents to Bulgaria, rows of children in Romanian coutryside waiting along the rails begging for sweets.Childhood in Poland in '80 was difficult but that image from Romania will stay forever.
Whether it is any communist dictators or any capitalist corrupt dictators - there is practically no difference for the working class.. do not get too excited!
Everyone who has brains can compare how working class lives in the US and how it used to live in the USSR and those with no brains... nothing will save them.
@@jbf4184 they'll call us fascists for "killing people we disagree with". What they don't realize is that this country came with too much sacrifice for it to simply fade away. America will bounce back. It just won't be pretty. But they brought it on themselves, after all, we tried reasoning with them and they won't listen.
@@jbf4184 I understand wholeheartedly. I would rather do anything else then fight. But I'm becoming increasingly convinced that there is no alternative.
Yeah, I meet them on a daily basis. In front of the railways stations. Begging for money and cigarettes. We never should have let them into the EU. Same for Bulgaria and Poland.
My wife’s cousin volunteered in Romania shortly after communism fell. She was working with Nicolai’s “children”, the stories she told were heartbreaking. Educate yourselves people, talk to people who lived it, then see what your opinion is.
If you like capitalism so much go live in the slums of Bangladesh where they feel the brunt of capitalism it's easy to say capitalism is great when your the person benefiting from it also the second largest party in Russia ever since the fall of the USSR was the communist one communism is most popular in previously communist countries
@@milesdunstan-daams9162 Bangladesh is at this point in favor of capitalism but it still has a long way to go. It's a mixed economy that is coming out of socialism and still has a great deal of institutionalized corruption to clean up. It's also a country that is climbing out of long term severe poverty and military instability. The areas near the Indian Ocean are still highly vulnerable to monsoon flooding. It's what's known as a second world economy, coming up from having been a third world economy. It's developing. It's not like a fully developed first world country yet. It's overall situation is promising but at this point, not fully realized. Russia is not really a capitalist country either; most often it's described as a kleptocracy, where there still is a great deal of corruption at the highest levels. Because the Soviet Union under communism offered social stability, if a miserable version of it, many older Russian are nostalgic for it in the face of the country's continuing social and economic instability.
@@milesdunstan-daams9162 we are not talking about capitalism, we all know how evil that is . But to think that the Socialist paradise was a success is plain delusional .....
@@lawrencewall3431 then why are people risking there lives in the communist revolution there right now if it is so great live there in the slums. Also the economic instability is because of capitalism almost all capitalist countries have boom and bust cycles
@@milesdunstan-daams9162 If you like capitalism why don't you go live in USA, or Canada, or Australia, or any 1st world country in Europe. Because it is easy to pick the worst country in the world and bring it as a paradigm. But why don't you bring me a good example of communist paradise? Go on I'll wait!
@@robinpickett7618 its never to late to stand on your feet and fight and I believe REAL Americans are on their way to this late stand for freedom. Now will it be easy absolutely but freedom has never be easy or free. GOD BLESS AMERICA 🇺🇸 🙏 ❤!
I am from Romania and everything he said is true , i was born in 2004 but even after so many years i am seeing the consequences of communism in my country and i wish i was born in the west like in America
I was 25 when the Soviet Union finally broke into pieces. I had a family, was an engineer making $10 per month. As a school student (starting grade 6), university student (5 years) and a young engineer I've been sent to kolhoz (collective farm) ~10-12 times, every time for 4-6 weeks, to help harvest potatoes, tomatoes etc. I've lived through hyper-inflation, seen how my parents and virtually everyone lost their lifetime savings in the bank and remember the year when toilet paper became available in the stores in my town (it was 1989 even though officially it had been produced in USSR since 1969). Americans are too smug and too naïve thinking that "their socialism" will be somehow different from mine.
Well, that brought back memory of harvesting frozen tomatoes :) you summed it perfectly. In 89 my grandmother’s life savings were reduced to dust due to hyperinflation, just enough to buy me a prom dress🙁
@@nathalieb734 and hyperinflation started in 1992, AFTER the collapse of USSR and Gaidar's reforms. Shocking market economy, yeah. It had nothing to do with USSR, where there were no goods on shelves in late 80s but prices were fixed. Kids, get your facts straight
@@AlexCatable Good story breaks facts :). Fixed price was a mistake. It broke the system entirely. Everyone had money and manipulators made it unreal to find produce on shelves. Everyone emptied the shelves like Covid19 individuals hunted down all toilet paper.
Some communist Americans naively think Marxism will possibly turn out different, in reality the theory is an idealist pipe dream that has only ever lead to authoritarianism in practice. Others are more fond of "social democracies", mixed economies with an expansive welfare system, which they use as a bait and switch to push for more socialization of industry.
Where I worked in Chicago, a refugee from Romania ran our cleaning crew and I would talk with him when I worked late. His family had to flee or die; he and his wife each had a suitcase in one hand, a child in the other. A real horror story. His father would not leave and was murdered. Very very nice man working hard for his family.
Brother it was bad. People opposed to the regime were killed or tortured. My great grandfather was locked and tortured for one full month for hiding his rifle during communist takeover in the forties. My mother's family was close to being executed by Russians for sheltering troops, were only saved by Russian speaking neighbor who bargained with the troops. People in their area were deported, imprisoned, downgraded from doctors etc to garbage and pest removal, had their houses taken from them. Intellectuals against the regime were detained in experimental torture camps, forced to have holy sacraments with piss and shit instead of bread and wine, forced to stand days in knee deep sewer water, forced to beat each other etc. It was bad. All this because they were opposed to the regime or even worse, because they were considered enemies of the people for being rich, smart, educated, or born into former noble families, or simply ratted on by their neighbors. Shit society and shit regime designed to control the mind and instill fear.
I'm Polish born in 1983 and some of my earliest memories is waiting with my mom for hours in queues. It was a only hours because mothers with children would be served first.
Story Time. Wife and I went to Prague, she was finishing up the back end of a work trip so i had two days to walk around, see the city and sites and drink czech beer all day long to boot. Went to the Museum of communism to see what it was all about. Thought it would be an homage to the olden days. Went up to the ticket sales, kid no older than 20 (college student come to find out). He asked for 7 krona in return for a ticket, i made a quick joke that i would have figured the tickets were free since it was a communism museum. His response, dead face and immediate was and i quote verbatim, "my country suffered enough under communism.".....can you IMAGINE a 20 year old kid thinking like that in America? Incredible museum broken up into three sections, 1. Idealism in the early days, 2. Reality sets in, 3. The horrors of communism. I left that museum, shook the kids hand and said that every American kid should be forced to go through a museum like that and visit an eastern European country and ask the people their thoughts, young and old. It was an incredible experience and one i wished just 10% of kids these days had a chance to see for themselves, it would change their world and our country forever.
RedWater - you’re still in the dark. Finnish people are educated. But learn more about their econmic system and that it inhibits any new creations, inventions, etc. not everything is rosey there.
Lisa - I'm not saying Finland is perfect, I'm saying they are a different system not at all communist, overall better in my view. The "left" in the US typically want something like this, not anything more to the left.
@@redwater3338 "Not anything more to the Left"....boy I couldn't disagree more. I think they've unashamedly showed their hand just what they want and it's alot more left than Finland
I m from Croatia and we were part of Communist Yugoslavia and I m gonna tell you one thing: go far as you can go from comunism and trust me,respect demokracy please...it saved many families in eastern Europe and thanks to America,country of free and country of brave!🇭🇷
Many third world countries are far, far better than the those that are communist controlled. Believe me, having experienced the horrors of East Germany and others first hand I would rather live in East or West Africa even with the problems there
I write from Hungary. I am 59 years old, so I grew up in the soviet system. Here is my opinion: The standard of living was higher in Hungary than in Romania. We had much softer socialism. (Do not forget, there was no total communism in Eastern Europe. We were only on the road to it.) In Hungary there were no breadlines. There were no unemployed. There were no homeless. Life was safe. Everybody had a job, a humble salary... and this was the problem! Why should I work hard, if my salary is the same? Why should I work at all?? My salary is the same. Earlier or later, but millions of hungarians realised this. Our products were unreliable, outdated. We could not stand the competition. At last, the country bankrupted, the socialism fell.
Problem is that Hungary should become communist before ww2. This has nothing to do with economical system, but being allied with Soviet union would mean more chance to get some territories lost at Trianon back as most of Hungary's neighbours joined axis.
Eastern Europe as well: Ukraine. I travelled quite a lot due to my line of work (business consultant) and the lack of historical knowledge in Europe/USA is baffling. Not all people are clueless, just the ones that are shouting and protesting the most. My family - literally - lived through a period when you would wake up because your neighbors were taken to a concentration camp & sat quite in their bedrooms, hoping no one would knock on their doors. If you, for a f***ing minute, think that you are the one who is going to survive, think again. There was no law, there was no evidence, there was no hope. If someone merely suggested that you didn't like Stalin or the Party or the Communist Ideas, you were gone. Even now there are post soviet / post communist regimes that are only a facade & and do terrible things to their population. Yet, morons keep on going to their doom & shouting that equity and socialism is good.
Tbh I couldn't care less if these arrogant marxist students become communist and suffer terribly under its regime. Its the rest of us poor buggers who don't want it that I feel sorry for.
Hi Stan. After just returning from Ukraine, one of the very few regrets was missing the Museum of Soviet Occupation in Kyiv because it was closed. Please enjoy this video from Volodymyrska Park and how the video ends regarding Ukrainian history. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YmU826ZIzKI.html
Met this Russian guy recently, during our conversation I asked him what he thought about all of this. He just blankly stared at me for 20 seconds. Felt like his brain couldn't comprehend the stupidity.
If you were to ask about "good sides of communism" from my friends family, especially his dad, you would get a beating of a lifetime, they came to my country to get away from starving... Their small city saw starvation deaths in ridiculous numbers just before they got out. My friends dad only talks about it when he's piss drunk and the stories he tells are fucking scary, sure some might get little juiced up in the story telling process but it's still better than any horror i've ever read, heard or watched.
so I'm from Russia. We have a lot of people like that in their 30s or 20s who absolutely hate Soviet Union and then we have a lot people in their 60s and 70s saying that they want to go back. Either way, learn history don't judge from 1 family story. Look at facts and figures, actual statistics and not meaningless cries for or against something based on emotion and personal relation
But Russia was the main country of the USSR. it sacrificed peripheral countries to maintain a better level than others. not even in the USSR were things equal. that's why you hear so many riots against the regime in eastern European countries
@@victoroduarte if you look at the balance of trade between Russia and other Soviet republics you will see that Russia had more exports than imports as for using other Eastern European countries to increase the quality of life in USSR that's a baseless statement bc the quality of life in Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary was higher than in USSR
@Se Fu I already mentioned the trade balance. Soviets exported more products then they brought in. As for sucking the eastern block out. Who was building factories in the Baltic states and where are those factories now? Who was rebuilding Eastern Germany right after the war and advocating for neutral and united German state?
Reagan once said “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction”… One day we will be force to wear a shirt that may read “Power is never more than one generation away from being lost”…
Spot on; absolutely spot on, "If you don't learn from history, nothing will save you." Generally speaking there are three types of people: those who learn from other people's mistakes (they are called wise); those who learn from their own mistakes (they are called good learners); and those who don't learn from others' mistakes, nor their own (they are called donkeys).
Sorry, dude, but you should apologize to donkeys. Donkeys are hard-working, smart and very useful animals. On the other hand, those from the third category are useless, lazy and total morons. Please apologize to hard-working donkeys. On behalf of donkeys, I thank you in advance!
I'm from Poland, we had same experience with communism as people in Romania, punch cards for bread, sugar and meat. Shelves in stores only with vinegar and toilet paper on chain in public bathrooms
@Se Fu yep, in 90s capitalism meant poverty for a majority of russians. You have to understand that however bad was economic situation in late USSR of late 80s, come 90s it became twice as worse.
Man, this hits close to home. I too have noticed an uptick in people starting to favor communism more and more. The vast majority of those are westerners, Americans in particular, but also Africans looking up to China of all places etc. In Romania there's also a slight, slow growth of people "missing" communism, which is ridiculous. Those few Romanians "missing" or favoring communism are either young people who haven't learned or understood history properly and all they took in is the communist propaganda, others are some of the very few Romanians that were privileged durring communism and now they miss the privilege and lack of influence they enjoyed back then and the last category is people who have simply forgotten what communism was really like. The overwhelming majority of Romanians however are quick to squash any talk of favoring communism. Because the overwhelming majority of Romanians have suffered because of communism and the country is still trying to heal to this day. People were killed, put into forced labor or labor camps, intellectual class was decimated and whoever survived was literally beaten into submission. Where there were villages who opposed the ruling party or had different oppinions or ideas were completely annihilated, whole villages were murdered. The "Security" forces were so deeply infiltrated that they used even people's own children as spies in order to identify whoever thought differently from the ruling communist party or questioned or disagreed with the Party. You had to watch your mouth and behavior even at home. If your words or thoughts, unfavourable to the Party reached the "Security" forces, you could be arrested or worse the very next day. And then there's the rations... Punch cards for food. Limited electricity time, limited TV time and only the governmental stations. EVERYTHING was controlled by the Party! If you don't clap in an official assembly, you could be viewed as a threat by the Security forces and put on a watch list or arrested. And the list goes on. Mo'fo's just don't know! Sure communism also achieved great things, built infrastructure etc, but at horrible prices.
@@leonardigno898 People with statements like yours have absolutely no idea what it is you are talking about and typically attempt to use dramatic words and terms without actually knowing and understanding their meaning. Such as "slavery" in your case. If you miss and need a dictatorship and a master so much, you can go to a number of countries from Turkey to China or North Korea and enjoy the greatness of the Supreme Leaders!
@@ChrisKsan :) Chinese people have a better life than americans , turkey is a country allied of America thwt want to protect is indipendente ( i visited turkey is better than romenia ) , America made only problems by invading Iraq ( saddam was a friend of America ) destroing Libia liders and look non for 20 years ( Iraq) and 10 years Libia don't have see any pace , thanks to your democratic government that nobady wanted , and the standard of living in America are thanks to your wars agains country that once was indipendent but today are only follow order of the master America that don't undestend nothink about the world .
@@V.D.22 it may be Authoritarian but they have no intention of devolving back to those ways as they have learned from the terrible crimes of the soviet regime. they respect their army and its achievements and have strong nationalistic drive. They will be continuing with their current system for some time I would say.
I am from ex Yugoslavian country and people here have different opinions about communism/socialism. Some had bad experiences, some say it were better times. It all depends on where you lived and your point of view. But the fact is, we never had a real communism as Marx described it, just poor attempts.
For an example, a country that supported nazism during ww2 are more likely to think that titoism was bad. With all its flawes it trutly was peoples politics, as we were flawed so were our politics.
Jugoslavija je bila u "nesvrstanima" pa možda iskustvo od tamo i recimo Albanije i Rumunjske nije isto. Ali, i dalje je bilo bonova za gorivo, redova pred dućanima, nestanaka struje, tajne policije, jednopartijski sustav...
They dont need to. The reality like it always manifests in this world is same all around the world: executions, massgraves, hunger and shortage of everyday goods
@@raakareiska9804 Indeed, Everytime the ideology of communism has been implemented misery has come with it with time. You don't lose me there, though I think you simplify the reasons for wanting that system. My main issue is the use of the term when referring to social-democratic policies like many of the ones that are proposed in the most left-wing parts of the democratic party which are not meant to create equality of outcome (which is generally what communism wants) but of opportunity. One seeks to destroy the liberal democracy in an attempt to make a better one but fails desperately and the other tries to enhance it so that everyone actually has a fair chance to participate.
@Roniixx I'm happy to see that you know what you're talking about when referring to the economic system of communism and the actual statist ideology. That still doesn't explain how it is taking root in America though, could you elaborate on what your thoughts are about that?
@@MattFyrm I understand this problem. I have a feeling that everything in USA that is connected to collecting or using taxes is "communism". Sometimes though these kind of parties have history of openly flirting with communism (like in Europe they all tend to). In Finland our local socialdemocrats have long history working with soviet union like starting civil war, reforming unauthorized government to plot with Stalin, funding a leninist school brainwash program, etc. Usually these same people love to notify other parties dirty history when their own party has been full of shit their whole history.
The problem is that the ideology that communism carries with itself will always result in death, sadness and misery. Maybe it wasn't implemented fully. Maybe it wasn't the ideal. But that doesn't matter. Whenever communist values were followed, lot's of innocent people died
Well we did experience it. As a whole Americans watched the population of cities disappear and people die. We watched and did nothing in that time. All accounts of that era were of the notion that is was not something we could do about without fear of war or some shit. Hands on. No. But watched . yes our population in America did.
They are looking at the Nordic form of socialism and pretending that it's the same as communism, the problem is that every socialist in America seems to be an authoritarian and that's what leads to communism and gulags and millions of deaths. Useful idiots won't learn until they hear the sound of jackboots coming for them because they've outlived their usefulness, and by then it's too late.
i think its fair, exchange students, send american commies to nk and bring someone lucky from north korea who wants a better life, win-win, but i bet the americans wont accept the offer because its all talk no action
The Democrats are not communists. The Democrat Party has been hijacked in the sixties, according to a plan devised in Moscow. Those who lead the Demicrats today are just useful idiots who will end shot first if, God forbid, socialism will be installed in America.
I lived in Romania for a year when I was younger, all of my work colleagues lived through communism, a girl I worked with her father had been pretty high up in the party and wore jeans to an event attended by Ceausescu which was taken as a slight against him and was never seen again. Another memory I have is getting fresh bread one day and toasting a slice, these two older gentleman I worked with started giving out to me kind of half joking but also not really, my uncle translated for me saying that fresh bread was just about their only treat during communism and toasting it was a sin! Anyways beautiful country, wonderful people, had a great time there. I’d love to see what it’s like now, must get back some time.
I was 2 when communism fell, but the after effect was still fresh in air for next years. I'm absolutely shocked to see people wanting communism. Your land your property gets taken away for good of nation, no matter how hard you work you are all living in same standards. You are not allowed to have different opinions. There is lack of food, clothes. You are given home based on how many family members you have (my family had 7 family member in 2 room apartment), you share bathroom with multiple families.
@@albilu9660 unfortunately the unwitting people who want communism in the west are arrogant enough to believe theirs will be a different sort of communism, a nice pink fluffy sort, because they ignore the facts of actual communism or were never aware and are like naive little butterflies flitting around, not knowing they're going to get sprayed with marxist insecticide. You have to feel sorry for them and the rest of us they'll bring down with them.
@@albilu9660 I was 15 in 1989. I bear the kind of scars no one can see, that will never really heal. 15 - 20 years of social, economical and political abnormality are apt to utterly destroy any individual. Thank God we are stubborn and resiliant - I guess 2000 years of being historically f**ked in the a$$ by technically everybody, ultimately, paid...
What people like yourself fail to realise is that modern leftist students are not pushing for the return of oppresive, authoritarian soviet communism. They want a liberal communism free of corruption. This has not been done before in history so it might be worth exploring alternate ideas outside of the planet consuming form of capitalism we have now.
@@StateOfMind63 what you fail to realize is that there is no such thing and will never be aiberal communist country. You should look up the meaning before you speak. Its all about power, and your getting a taste of it right now with the progressive left democrats. Try asking a person from Venezuela or Cuba that question, see what they'll tell you.
Sadly a large part of my gen consists of children in their late twenties who had their parents take care of them and now they want the gov to take care of them.
@@lewiswilliams5967 You're asking me to pick between Cuba and Haiti? Like Haiti is some kind of representation of capitalism? The entire Western world has it's foundation in free market economics. These are the most successful societies, by any measurement the planet has ever seen.
@@anthonymorris5084 That is because only failing countries should resort to communism. The Haitian people would be better off under communism. The average Cuban person was better off under communism than pre-revolution. It is a pendulum. If a nation goes too far right. And the wealth gap grows to breaking (as it may do in the US),then it will swing violently and rapidly left. The most successful long term nations are those that have high taxes and high social welfare, but allow a mostly free market with a good amount of publicly owned service as well. That seems fairly left as the powers to be want us to believe that. When in fact that is bang in the middle where the center should be. Very little movement in the pendulum.
@@lewiswilliams5967 I'm from Canada. Capitalism isn't a magic wand that generates successful societies. The road map to wealth and success has been laid out for all to see. Democratic principles like freedom, liberty, free and fair elections, free speech, a free press, property rights, human rights, rule of law, a separate judiciary, freedom of religion, secular government and capitalism. Haiti is devoid of most of these things. Haiti embraces superstition, tribalism, cultural dysfunction, nepotism and other ideologies that retard economic and personal growth. Not to mention France cleaned them out over independence. Communism is never the answer. It is a proven abject failure. You have nothing if you don't have freedom. The Cuban people have been sentenced to decades of oppression and poverty. Look at all their neighbors. The Cayman Islands has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world. Capitalism generates the wealth which can then be redistributed in a fair and democratic manner. Communism/Socialism/Marxism as economic systems are incapable of generating wealth, so there is nothing to redistribute.
@@lewiswilliams5967 Than why is the US resorting to Socialism/Communism? It isn't a failing country, except by the sayings of Politicians like Bernie Sanders, Students dressed up in Yellow and wanting to do away with private property. Free Markets is what lifts people out poverty not Government. I prefer the US when I was growing up in the early 60's, no Welfare, Medicare-Medicaid, Social Security Benefits unless you worked and put into it. Now the illegals who come get free everything but those born here have to work hard for what they need. Sorry, you want Socialism/Communism go to Cuba, Venezuela,, North Korea, PRC to name just a few. Those countries that are freer than the US have a better economy.
@@newdlez1683 No, that's exactly the problem. Tradition in its nature is to preserve what has been. Where do you think culture derives? It comes from a people on a land over centuries ot even longer. If we actively mass migrate millions of people into the west, that by its very nature destroys the culture. The culture is the people, there's no separating them. Advanced and diversified aren't givens and aren't in any way shown to have been good. Unless you think materialism, consumerism and mass produce equates to being better. I don't, and I'm not advocating for communism, I agree it's absurd but so is liberalism. That last statement may be true in that system, but the traditional world was never that way. People were more than fulfilled living in a world where objective morals and values were personified. The sacred, primordial was upheld and the immaterial defined the world. What liberalism has done is destroy all of that in favor of the pure material which, as you rightly pointed out, destroys people and their will. But that doesn't just happen in communism, liberal capitalism by definition works the same. What's the value in the sacred and the immaterial if they can't be commodified? We have to look back before any of these systems and look at what's actually natural and organic for us as a species. Stagnation isn't inherently bad, and the sooner we get past the retarded abstractions to actually understanding what we are and what history shows, the better we are. History in no way shows multi anything in a nation being good. In fact, if you read through people like spengler or deluze, you find the exact opposite, that to push for "change" or "progress" inevitably leads to the death of that civilization and its people
@@demaistre2458 stagnation becomes restrictive over time and breeds lack of creativity. That is not to say, certain things are not worth keeping or that we must change for the sake of changing. We need balance. We need to be able to keep what is good but be open to change what is bad.
@@benderrodriguez5425 I agree with your last point. But what exactly do you define as stagnation? Or at least to what degree? If I say a civilization defined by a certain race should stay that way, would you say that's stagnation? To say it leads to restrictions and lack of creativity is purely arbitrary and I don't see any genuine grounds for that. I'm not claiming we need to stay EXACTLY the same as before, but to uphold what works and what's organic for us is necessary. Our species worked in a very similar for 10000 years until the time of the enlightenment. It's an extreme hubris of us in the modern age to say they were wrong because we subjectively decided so based on standards we've arbitrary defined in the now.
@@demaistre2458 stagnation means unchanged in this context. Albeit culture = people, it =/= skincolor. Culture are the values and believes of a certain people and the way they conduct themself. This is bound to change for the simple reason of the fickle human nature. I believe that is why we, as human race, chase stability. But... at the same time conformity, the feeling of "us" (vs them) is so inbedded and being different potentially dangerous ( aswell for the group or individual) which basically creativity is, no? Doing things differently and not the same. Truth be told... the majority of people do not wish to think they are wrong they want to be right and "there is only one way to be right" Being/doing different breeds friction, enough friction breeds conflict, too little will be swept away. Anyways.. I realise this is rambling and I hope you do understand the point I try to make across.
I was born in Ukraine and my parents and grandparents had to go through a lot including my grandfather being imprisoned and nobody would sell my family anything at markets so they had to have their own gardens and way to get food. As well as my mother in law having teachers fail her in classes just bc she didn’t agree with their views. My parents and grandparents and I am extremely happy that we got away from that communism and are in America
I went this year to Memorialul durerii roughly translated to "Pain Memorial" in Sighetu Marmației in Romania, it was surreal you could still feel the suffering and dread present in that place just like in ex concentration camps, it is a monument for comunism victims, it was a political prison during comunist rulling, and there were two walls with pictures of people who were labeled as enemy of the state in that period and there were even kids who were arested even 5 year olds, the political prisons were welcomed on the prison between two rows of tortures armed with sticks and they would beat them up while they entered the prison and all of this because they had different opinions, millions of people in eastern countries suffered because of communism, don't forget 20 million Ucranians died of famine under comunism so whoever thinks comunism is good they have no clue what they are talking about nor know any history
In the end,it all comes down to gratitude and a realisation that it could be a whole lot worse and is for many millions still living under such regime's across this planet.
