ECM Rushing in PAYDAY 3: is it still possible...?

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In PAYDAY 3, the ECM Jammers work in a completely new and different way, compared to PAYDAY 2. Within this new system, is ECM Rushing still possible?
The fastest way to rush the Dirty Ice heist: easy completions to farm infamies, and also decent for Weapon XP. Done with minimum loot for fastest times.
As for how the new ECMs work: rather than blocking pagers, cameras, and calls, they simply slow down the speed at which pagers expire, and cameras detect you. It feels very different from PAYDAY 2 ECM Rushing because it's not just about placing the ECMs and sprinting through everything, but it still has the same feeling of coordinated roles, full speed, and some ECMs at the end for the point of no return.
➽ TIME STAMPS:
0:00 → Introduction: the new ECMs.
0:40 → Dirty Ice strategy.
2:26 → 3-man variation.
4:20 → Checking the whiteboard code from outside.
4:50 → VIP code run, slowest RNG.
6:35 → End screen!
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Special thanks to h3ll, Dyrax, Twits, and Fun, for their help in testing these strategies, and figuring out the new ECM Rush basics!
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Edited with: Vegas Pro 18.0
Game version: Sept 19th, 2023 patch (Release version)

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@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Oops it seems my pinned comment vanished, so I'll type it again here! All runs are obviously done on fresh seeds, no RNG abuse to check codes ahead of time. If you would like to learn this optimized strategy, here are the PoVs from the other players! Also join our Discord, to find crews to spam this and other rushes :D ○ h3llcruizzer (alleyway QR): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3RJT86oCrmY.html ○ ThisIsFun (employee code + open VIP room): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NITTfKwitTo.html ○ Twits (check whiteboard code): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SlckC7_-ayQ.html

@MartinSK44 9 месяцев назад

Yay! The comment got into custody i guess :steamhappy:

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@MartinSK44 💀The old pinned comment returned so now there's two of them. Ew!

@CsubAzUrmedve 9 месяцев назад

So basically unless there is this very specific situation, ECM is next to useless.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

That is correct yup! The only situation where ECMs are useful is when the entire crew agrees that the plan is to ECM Rush a heist. In regular stealth, the gadget is absolutely useless (which is nice, considering they were so OP in PAYDAY 2...).

@yol_n 3 месяца назад

@@Marcmb if they were like the hacker perk deck instead of the 30s ecm deployable I think it would be fine

@kelesbeta 9 месяцев назад

Happy to see PAYDAY 3 content from you! Thank you for all of Payday 2!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much Keles, and glad you've been enjoying the PAYDAY 2 content all this time! There is so much content to explore in PAYDAY 3, that I'm gonna be busy for quite a while :p I'll still continue re-visiting PAYDAY 2 though, because I'm still addicted to infamy grinding, and stealth in general!

@icy_spice 9 месяцев назад

@@MarcmbI am old player and came back to Payday 2 (I quit after Hoxton BO and minigun came out). I watched your Solo infamy farm videos already and now have a problem farming offshore money. Can you share the best one for solo-stealth player? 3 of them would be gladful. (I now run Murky Station, Diamond Store, Ukrainian Job and Shackleton Auction atm) PS. If the heist is not DLC, it would be good. I have only a bit of DLC.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@icy_spice Hey again IcySpice! Welcome back to PAYDAY 2, and glad to hear the XP farming videos are being helpful. As for offshore money farming, Big Oil is an amazing choice if you're playing solo: the base payout is more than 18M, which is huge for a quick solo heist (with 3 bots for the loud part; see my guide for details). Highest difficulty of course: DS is ideal if it shows up on CrimeNET, because then you avoid the offshore buyout cost of 3.5M. Bring a SAW to DAY1 because there are a lot of ATMs in the basement: there are so many, in fact, that looting the last one goes beyond the "LOOSE CASH" limit set by the game, giving you the maximum amount you can get from any heist. First World Bank is extremely easy and pays 7.5M. The following options are also great, but all DLC, so you might have only some of these: Big Bank and Scarface (both all loot) also reach the ~16M payout. Alesso pays 13M and is full stealth. The Diamond (minimum loot) is quick and pays 8M. If you have a 2-4 player team who enjoys rushing, you can also go for Shadow Raid: aim for maximum loot (rather than fastest XP), and don't forget the armor for maximum cash. Easy ~20M in a quick rush too. Finally, if you want some more variety and you have a 4-player team, you can rush Border Crossing too, for a ~40-50M cash reward (but takes much longer than Shadow Raid).

@icy_spice 9 месяцев назад

@@MarcmbThank you for your reply! I think Big oil is good, too. But because last time I went loud and spent hours on it cause I dont know how to solve the riddle on the second day (and got lucky that the correct engine was the last one...). Still traumatized from that 🤣🤣🤣 I will try to master Diamond and First World Bank. My brain is not quite capable of remembering location and map 😅😅😅 Thank you again!

@theunofficialcollector 9 месяцев назад

the only youtuber that actually do the full run without pre checking the code unlike others. thumbs up

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Sam! Glad you liked this aspect of the runs :) I'll never understand why people like pre-checking the codes, because then the run takes much longer overall, since you have to do it twice...

@dooderman8361 9 месяцев назад

Let’s go I’ve been anticipating marcmb payday 3 content since the pd2 stealth guides were my favourite, really good tutorials and helped me out a ton! With how different stealth is in pd3 I imagine we won’t be getting the exact same type of videos cause stealth is so dynamic and immersive now most people are more likely to just be able to play it without needing a full in depth guide but I’d sure love to see maybe some tips/tricks for some of the heist

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It's finally here Dooder! Glad you've been enjoying the PAYDAY 2 content, and happy to hear the guides have been helpful. As you say, stealth is now a lot more versatile and forgiving (especially in non-secure areas), but I'll definitely still make one guide for each of the heists! Focusing on the important details, at least :)

@cursed_light4912 9 месяцев назад

Since i found you some months ago your stealth content has been my favorite!! So glad to see you doing it in payday 3 :3

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

That's great to hear Cursed_Light, thank you very much! Hopefully my PAYDAY 3 content will be entertaining as well :D

@captainmacmillan8238 9 месяцев назад

Hi Marc glad you’re back with payday 3 content and absolutely love previous videos. I’d love to see stealth tutorials like your payday 2 format in the future :)

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much MacMillan! Glad you've been enjoying the content. I have plans to upload stealth guides for all heists (starting with NRFTW in ~2-3 uploads), and for now my top priority is to be able to upload more often, like I used to do a few months ago!

@captainmacmillan8238 9 месяцев назад

Thant’s great to hear! Keep up the good work and I’m looking forward to seeing the future content :)

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

All runs are obviously done on fresh seeds, no RNG abuse to check codes ahead of time. If you would like to learn this optimized strategy, here are the PoVs from the other players! Also join our Discord, to find crews to spam this and other rushes :D ○ h3llcruizzer (alleyway QR): will be added soon. ○ ThisIsFun (employee code + open VIP room): will be added soon. ○ Twits (check whiteboard code): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-21g-jdtUG3k.html

@picklypt 9 месяцев назад

Marc, your guides are always very well explained and efficient. Thanks :)

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the kind words Pickly! Much appreciated :)

@biocarde7215 9 месяцев назад

Ayyyy Marc's uploading PD3 videos! Loved your pd2 content, can't wait what mechanics you'll teach us about in pd3!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

The PAYDAY 3 content is finally starting, yes! Glad you're looking forward to it, I appreciate that a lot :)

@geograymon55 9 месяцев назад

I find ECMs are bit useless when compared to the alternatives. Hidden cams are always a solid option to keep eyes on a specific area or a guard's route, tripwires are good for passively keeping tabs on guards, and stun mines can stall guards. Slower cam detection and pagers doesn't seem worth it by comparison.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely yup! If you're going to _stealth,_ the utility of the Spycams or the Motion Sensor is infinitely superior. ECMs are only good if the entire crew agrees that the goal of the lobby is _not to play sneaky, but to ECM rush,_ and in this situation their use is still quite limited, simply extending the final part of the heist slightly to be able to finish in stealth (for quick completion challenges). But of course, the entire strategy needs to be coordinated, and everyone must bring ECMs to stack the effect.

@geograymon55 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb While I do get using them to help with stealth rushes, if a team is rushing just for the sake of rushing then they seem unnecessary on any map with a decent civ pool. Just having one player with hostage perks function as a safety net can buy you around 2 extra minutes before the first assault. But then again Payday 3 is still very early in to it's lifespan, so I'm confident future updates and more time for players to experiment will allow for new rush methods.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@geograymon55 No no you didn't understand: when I mentioned quick completion challenges, I was referring to the fact that the game does not reward you for simply completing the heists. Instead, it gives you XP for completing heists _in a certain way:_ as you point out, loud completions are a lot easier because the margin for error is huge (negotiation time, trading civs, etc...) so the point of the ECMs is to extend the stealth phase to escape before the alarm, because with this current system you only care about the challenges.

@geograymon55 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb Ah, wasn't aware of that. I never really looked too much at the challenge list.

@RandomKenny 9 месяцев назад

Finally a video about this method! Was tired of seeing all the damn 'how to do x heist quickly' but its seeded videos. Unseeded is the most important thing, because you will have to do each heist like 300 times to get all the challenges. So the less overall time the better. Good job as always!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much Kenny! Absolutely agree on the seeded part: every time I see someone mentioning fast runs or good times, it's often for seeded runs... which is cool for the speedrun aspect, but for practical runs it's absolutely useless!

@mediumplayer1 9 месяцев назад

Sad to see ECMs being nerfed to the ground. Glad to see this doesn't stop you! See you in PD3 after they fix the game so that I have a reason to buy it. For now I have a will to return to PD2.

@mauer1 9 месяцев назад

it makes sense considering you can do so much in casing mode now. and that there are so many new methods. having ecms be as strong as before would just mean not having to use any of those new methods.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It is a bit sad, for sure. Although realistically, the ECMs were way too powerful in PAYDAY 2, so it's nice that their initial balance is much better this time. It should still be possible to rush quite a few heists, so stay tuned for more! As for the current state of the game, definitely don't buy yet... The gameplay is 10/10, but the systems and UI need a lot of work, and the server delay to start any solo heist is quite painful... Luckily I'm playing both 2 and 3 for now, so it's not too bad :D

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@mauer1 Also very good poins yup! For now their implementation is quite good: not overpowered (unlike PAYDAY 2), and they have some niche uses. If they need rebalancing in the future, the devs always have the option of making new skill lines to upgrade ECMs in some ways :D

@mauer1 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb that's the other point ecms only really got insane because of hacker. When suddenly maps that are not rushable got rushable because you could add ticks with ecm downtime or the overall ecm time is now over the map duration.

@ericneuens 9 месяцев назад

@@MarcmbIt also makes sense from a time standpoint. Better tech, better security, better understanding of the heisters themselves and how they operate = reduced effectiveness.

@momsaidletmeplay 9 месяцев назад

So glad you're making content for pd3!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much, I appreciate it! I have plenty of plans for PAYDAY 3 content, so I'm glad you're enjoying it so far :D

@bltsevdallarfanclub641 9 месяцев назад

You are one of the youtubers that I wish upload more frequently. Your content is always worth the watch.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the very kind words BLT! Much appreciated :) Hopefully as we get closer to winter break I'll be able to go back to my weekly upload schedule... that's the plan for now!

@blueboixo 9 месяцев назад

Return of the king. Glad to have you back Marc

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Very kind of you Blue! Thank you :)

@spkoftdvl 9 месяцев назад

This is the kind of content I want to see, nice

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much GVZ! Glad you liked this one :p

@mauricioelcaballer 9 месяцев назад

Marc, really you are THE payday stealth channel ;)

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much Mauricio! I appreciate that a lot :)

@JohnDoe-et5bq 9 месяцев назад

new sub to the channel so excited to see the payday 3 content!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for considering subscribing John! Welcome to the channel :D

@firelion6919 9 месяцев назад

I am glad that you have made another video on Payday 3! I would love to see in depth stealth guides for 7 heists! Btw, Will you ever consider doing loud guides for the road of rage for example?

@brucewayne4360 9 месяцев назад

A guide for Road Rage ? ........i See only Bots Here

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Firelion, glad you liked this one too! My original plan was to make about one PAYDAY 3 video per week, but it's tricky with my IRL schedule. I have plans for stealth guides, starting with NRFTW in about ~2-3 uploads. I'll cover the 7 stealth heists first, and then perhaps Road Rage, we'll see!

@zairuswane 9 месяцев назад

That 5:43 TxCM strat was fun to watch hahaha, good thing payday 3 seems nice stealthwise

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hahaha glad you liked that! He tried to trap me inside the room during the stun duration, but thankfully doors are very handy :p

@TheNobody1324 9 месяцев назад

This is probably the best way to get the Smash and Grab achievement

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

I think so too yup! As long as your team knows what to do, you get it for free every single run, even without previous RNG knowledge about the codes.

@icy_spice 9 месяцев назад

I wish you could continue your solo infamy farming for Payday 2 without DLC heist (Like Murky Station) because your vidoes are so goooood that make me finish lots of stealth heist solo that I never thought I could finish them. Just wanna say thank you for your great work! Help me tons and I wish to continue to support you some how in Payday 3 when I have a chance to buy them (aka discount time!)

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey IcySpice! I do have plans to continue the PAYDAY 2 content (especially the Solo Infamy Farming series), so hopefully I can do that in a reasonable timeframe! It'll include both free heists, and DLC heists, because the good ones are a mix of everything :D Glad you're enjoying the content, and regarding PAYDAY 3, definitely wait for a discount, because the devs still have a lot of work to do...

@elijahmcdowell9690 27 дней назад

A lot has been said about the stealth in Payday 3, and outside of the boring circle junk, I feel like it has some good bones. I really like the new hacking stuff, feels in line with the higher tech everything in this game.

@elijahmcdowell9690 27 дней назад

And yeah it's simpler than PD2, but I feel like with time they will get comfortable with this new engine to do some wild stuff with it.

@Marcmb 24 дня назад

Yes! I personally really like the new camera loop, the ability to cycle through cams to use them for info or to loop cams from far away, and the new use of the ECMs to fully disable cameras when placed close to them. Overall the stealth has a lot of potential for cool gameplay :D For now I'm enjoying PAYDAY 2 more because of the community, but I'm sure PAYDAY 3 will be great in the near future too!

@edfranger5206 9 месяцев назад

Love the hitman like stealth, or at least thats how i see it.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

In some aspects it feels more like Hitman than PAYDAY 2, yeah! The sound lures, the emphasis on casing mode... it's certainly very different from the prequel, which is quite nice :)

@ArmaRGool 9 месяцев назад

Marc is back lets goo !!!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It took me a while! My upload schedule lately has been very slow, but hopefully I'll be able to get back to it soon :D

@toxiic144 15 дней назад

Payday 3 looks like a junction of Hitman 2 + Watch Dogs 2 and Payday 2 lol

@Marcmb 7 дней назад

Kinda yeah! It's a very nice mix. It definitely could have a few more features too from those, to make the gameplay more fun and varied...

@youreprettygood1414 9 месяцев назад

The legend.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Haha that's very kind of you :) Thank you!

@timemage88x13 9 месяцев назад

I can see them adding a skill tree to make this gadget better.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Perhaps in the future yeah! That will be nice to see, but hopefully not too soon since they're good enough for now...

@normalclown 9 месяцев назад

I'm waiting to see how PD3 gets improved over the next year before buying, but I'm glad to see you're still able to speedrun these heists. Have you got plans to do the same for other heists? I'd be interested in Nightclub No VIP pass myself, having seen McBadass run it.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Good choice! The gameplay is very good, but the systems need a lot of work still, so the game will be a lot better next year. I have plans to upload more ECM rushes, guides for solo stealth completions, and some guides for efficient farming! A little bit of everything :D

@warmonger-zc2sf 9 месяцев назад

Is there going to be any more Payday 2 content anymore, or just pd3?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Excellent question Warmonger! I plan to continue playing both, so the content will most likely be a 50:50 mix of both. Unless a majority wants me to focus on one of the two, in which case I could probably go for that :p

@AdmiralCaner 9 месяцев назад

Nice Showcase. Do you need to chain the ecm or can everyone spam it now?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Admiral! As for your question: everyone uses it at the same time (stacking, rather than chaining) for the best effect :)

@hackersource4634 9 месяцев назад

I was very disappointed when I found out how bad the ECM's are now, especially as a solo player. When I need weapon XP or money I just do Rock the Cradle, I can do it in about a minute and a half but with a full team you could probably do it in a minute, maybe less.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

In some ways it is disappointing yup, considering they were by far the best deployable in PAYDAY 2, but now they are quite weak. It's nice though, since they are good enough for some niche rushes, without being way too overpowered... We'll see how many more we can rush in the near future! As for Rock the Cradle, it's one of my favorite solo heists! I think my best so far is a 2:15 on a fresh run (no previous RNG knowledge), but with a full team it can indeed be much faster :D

@O6edist 9 месяцев назад

Great guide Wish they would bring back old ecm rush

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you O6! I'm currently playing old PAYDAY 2 whenever I want the old ECM rush mechanics, so I don't mind it being different for PAYDAY 3 :D

@O6edist 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb makes sence

@javgarag 9 месяцев назад

New marcMB video just dropped 🎉🎉

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Jav! A few weeks late, but it's finally here :D Hopefully my upload schedule will go back to the usual soon...

@bill_bardi 9 месяцев назад

I already miss the payday 2 videos

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Aww sorry about that bill, but no worries! I will continue uploading a mix of both, because I still had so many unfinished projects in PAYDAY 2! :D

@bill_bardi 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb ♥️

@Damian125id 9 месяцев назад

This new casing mode stealth is fun tbh

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It is very very fun yup! Extremely unique :D Shame that the game systems still need a bit of work... because other than that, the gameplay is amazing.

@toast-cj 9 месяцев назад

Seeing you play stealth is so satisfying. I cant wait for your guides on Payday 3 maps :)

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the kind words Toast! Heist guides in the upcoming weeks, for sure :D I want to cover all 7 before they start releasing new ones, ideally!

@thespacenoob4760 9 месяцев назад

very nice

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much, TheSpaceNoob :)

@welkingunther4298 9 месяцев назад

I felt like the ECM wasn't even necessary for this. But unsure.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey Welkin! You can absolutely do the exact same thing without ECMs, since this heist is quite short. However, the ECMs are often necessary to ensure you escape in stealth (you have a long time window to escape even after the alarm goes off, but you want actual _stealth completions_ for the challenge XP, so that's the main reason to bring ECMs).

@djolegameplay1089 9 месяцев назад

Can't belive Marcmb didn't post ultimate stealth guides...

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

I have one of those guides being worked on right now, which should be ready in a couple of weeks! I'll start with the beginner heist (No Rest For The Wicked), and then move on to the more interesting ones like Rock the Cradle, Touch the Sky, Surphaze...

@Hibbou. 8 месяцев назад

it's a shame, I would have loved to re-discover the real "hold up" in for example no rest for the wicked, I feel like there is only 2 playsyles in this PD long and risky stealth or loud, which is also long, there is no quick mission like in PD2 the jewlery heist, I learned how to play out of this heist

@Marcmb 8 месяцев назад

That's true that it can't be applied to all the heists, currently there's only 3 or 4 that can be rushed in a similar way to this. However there's always the possibility that devs will change things up in the future, so we'll see! :D

@spanssanfr516 9 месяцев назад

This could be great ... If you could gain exp from heist

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey Spans! That is a very good point, and the devs completely dropped the ball on this one. However, you do get a whole bunch of Infamy Points when you reach certain "Completion Milestones" (e.g., 10 / 15 / 20 / ... completions on Overkill, auto-completed for lower difficulties) so in this sense you do get XP for every completion, although the devs implemented it in the worst way possible.

@heyimmuted 9 месяцев назад

I can't believe you had the mental capacity to complete this heist 65 times

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Haha yup! 65 with the "loud" escape (so after alarm), and another ~80 in stealth, just on this heist! I easily reached Infamy 100 without grinding a single Combat challenge :p

@tarihimanyak9787 9 месяцев назад

good thing ecms didn't get removed in pd3 just nerfed :D

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

I think this is the best case scenario, yup! They were way too powerful in PAYDAY 2, but I'm very thankful that they weren't fully removed :D

@BigCateSports 9 месяцев назад

Thought you have a gtx970? Judging from the footage and fps from this video you upload, you run the game pretty smoothly.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Until recently yes! After playing the PAYDAY 3 Beta, it became clear that I needed to upgrade (my PC was nearly 8 years old at this point...) so I bought a new one! Much much better setup now :D

@BigCateSports 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb Makes sense, cant wait for you to upload more pd3 videos, cheers!

@chees1990 9 месяцев назад

Everyones moving onto the new game while im still starting from scratch

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Very interesting choice chees! Related to this, at some point during the next 2 weeks, I'll upload a very short video about my progression in PAYDAY 2 after reaching Infamy 500...

@kotletschabowy4169 9 месяцев назад

I'm glad PD3 has more stealth modifiers than just titancams and more guards, should make stealth more interesting

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It's certainly a very interesting system! For now we've only seen three (Titan Cams, Lead Guard, Camera Loop Duration lowered to 5s), but the devs mentioned during the Dev Diaries that they have plans to add more, and have some kind of rotating system, which should keep things interesting :D

@irisprojects 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb To note, Cerberus Core is ALL runtimes, of course you kind of only run camera loops but route ping is considered a runtime and gets cut down to 5

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@irisprojects Ah, very interesting! I've tried using the Routed Pings on Surphaze and they never mark anyone for me, so I'm not sure if the skill is working properly anyway... Apparently it has an unintended effect where marking guards through the Camera Operator computer will keep those guards marked forever (up to 3 marks as usual), if you have the Routed Ping skill.

@hamed2011 9 месяцев назад

Now ECM jammer converted to ECM Slower in 2023 😐

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Yup it's not too bad though, because they were by far the most overpowered deployable in PAYDAY 2, so at least now they are more balanced!

@--Defur-- 9 месяцев назад

More pro video if Tomato Dyrax was playing with you, 🍅🍅

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Always! Sadly no tomato this time, even though he did join for quite a few runs :(

@IAmUnderscore 9 месяцев назад

Curious how you knew to enter 0 first in the last run example? Is there some guaranteed digit, or was it just a lucky guess?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Excellent question Underscore! Just a lucky guess: in order to save some time I enter one digit immediately, then keep my cursor close to the reset button, so that I can clear the code quickly if my guess was wrong :)

@Raykon333 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb is it optimal tho? If I understand correctly this results in 25% chance for a key press saved and 75% for an extra key press needed.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@Raykon333 Very good question! The most optimal is probably to have your mouse equidistant to all 4 possible digits, but I'm bad at quick precise mouse movements, so that's not ideal for me. Furthermore, in the 75% of scenarios where your guess is wrong, the main time loss doesn't come from the extra input, but from having your camera starting from a corner rather than the center (since you just press F before moving your mouse, doesn't really add any time).

@Snappier 9 месяцев назад

NICE

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

THanks Snappier!

@BladeCross 9 месяцев назад

compare on pd2 and pd3, which one you liked the most Marcmb?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Interesting question BladeCross! On release, I probably liked PAYDAY 2 more because it was my first time playing a stealth heisting simulator. For the base mechanics, I think PAYDAY 3 might be a bit better (or perhaps just because it's new and fresh), but considering that PAYDAY 3 still needs a lot of development to improve reward balance, server stability, lobby creation speed, levelling systems, basic functionality for co-op communication, and more... I have to say that I like PAYDAY 2 more.

@Gdla12 9 месяцев назад

oh my god

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Haha hope you liked it Gdla!

@ArthurSuen91 9 месяцев назад

strap in bois here comes the first PD3 stealth guide

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

And many more to come! :D

@investgator-be8rj 9 месяцев назад

can i ask for night club stealth guide? (in PD2) and i cant believe ecm rushing is alive at PD3..

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey investgator! Everything got delayed quite a bit with the release of PAYDAY 3, but I definitely plan to continue making guides for PAYDAY 2! First of all, I will continue my solo XP farming series, because that was my main project before PAYDAY 3...

@investgator-be8rj 9 месяцев назад

ok! thanks for answer

@hshshshhddnhssu1350 9 месяцев назад

step 1: find friends

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Join our Discord if you need players to rush these things! :D

@WoahItsKris 9 месяцев назад

gonna be honest here: i tried playing payday 3, it is really just so much less fun than payday 2. payday 2 was very easy to grasp and anyone could have fun in it, whether with friends or without. payday 3 on the otherhand feels wayyyy too serious, and it feels a lot less multiplayer than payday 2.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

I personally like the new mechanics (all the things you can now do in casing mode, new gadgets, new heists...), although I haven't played a single public heist yet (always playing in friends-only lobbies) so I can't comment on that... However, when you're playing with either friends, or good heisters who know what they are doing, there's a lot of multiplayer / co-op aspects, such as being able to lure guards away for your team, hacking into the cameras to face away from your teammates, staying unmasked to move lootbags easily through guarded areas, etc...

@KyryloMudrokha 9 месяцев назад

"Doesn't delay pagers, calls and cams" Then what it's purpouse then?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey Kyrylo! Watch out for the wording because that's where your misunderstanding comes from. In PAYDAY 2, ECMs **BLOCK** pagers, calls, and cams. In PAYDAY 3, neither of these is **BLOCKED,** but pagers and cams are **DELAYED.**

@MassivePonyFan 9 месяцев назад

So this is how you get the achievement for beating it in under 2 mins.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

That's one of the ways to do it yup! Very easy with this strategy, definitely :D

@MassivePonyFan 9 месяцев назад

I actually did it last night with my friend. Not exactly this method but it was fun trying to speedrun it. I was on normal tho cuz I'm a scrub.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Awesome, GJ! And nws, normal is good as a starting point :D @@MassivePonyFan

@LunarWrens145 9 месяцев назад

I can't bring myself to play this game

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

No worries bedbot! Most of us are still playing PAYDAY 2 because that's the superior one :D Drop by the Discord and come ECM rush with us!!

@gunnerdown 9 месяцев назад

Isn’t the basement door being open rng?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey Gunner! The code door is always locked, and then the door to the lever room is indeed RNG. In the first showcased run it was open (very simple), and then in the 2nd showcased run it was closed: you can see I sprint as usual to lure the guard staring at the door, then use the Infiltrator ACE skill to get Rush reliably, and open it very quickly

@gunnerdown 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb ok, yea I meant the power room, I’ve just never had it open and I’ve only seen a single other person with it so I was making sure

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

@@gunnerdown The power / lever room yup! Small chance for it to spawn already open, although I'm not sure what the exact percentage is :)

@lusien3309 9 месяцев назад

Is this game still on Gtx 970?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey lusien! Not anymore, my old setup only worked on lowest settings so I upgraded for PAYDAY3. I'm now on a much much better setup!

@lusien3309 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb Hey. Congratulations on the upgrade!

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! :)@@lusien3309

@random.person.9995 9 месяцев назад

Ecms are now dog poop 😂 just another unfortunate change to PD3 😫

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

They are 100% a lot weaker yup! It's not too bad though, considering they were absolutely OP in PAYDAY 2. For now they only have a few uses, but they might get some changes in the future, we'll see :D

@exiled_seeker6692 9 месяцев назад

So you are saying pd2's ecms were useful but on pd3, its a waste

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

In PAYDAY 2 they were by far the best deployable, with nothing else coming even close for the main deployable in co-op stealth (many choices for secondary deployable though). In PAYDAY 3 they can only extend the stealth phase by a few seconds, so they only shine in some niche rushes that can be done either very quickly, or mostly unmasked!

@penguinonpd2 9 месяцев назад

penguins???? 🐧

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Supah penguins! 🐧🐧🐧

@penguinonpd2 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb guuut

@cubeaiden2632 9 месяцев назад

Hey pls make payday3 steslth guide

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey Cube! I'll be making stealth guides, stealth builds, and ECM rushes in the near future! I'm struggling a bit with the upload schedule lately, but hopefully soon!

@GG_1318 9 месяцев назад

why even use ecm at this point?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Excellent question GG! The same strategy can be done effortlessly without ECMs, especially if you avoid masking up for as long as possible. However, for efficient Infamy Farming, you want to prioritize stealth completions first, over the loud ones -- the extra delay at the end helps a lot to ensure you will be able to get the stealth escape, to optimize the farming as much as possible.

@Elm1010-m3l 9 месяцев назад

How are people already level 100 😂

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Mostly heist completions! About 10 OVK completions on each heist (mostly stealth, but you can fully stealth and then trigger the alarm before escaping for an easy 10 loud completions), and then a bunch of solo Cradle, and Dirty Ice ECM rushing :D

@Keter05 9 месяцев назад

Penguin 🐧

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hiiiii Keter thanks for dropping by! :D

@Keter05 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb Good to see Payday 3 content from you

@BadBoy-cl7sp 9 месяцев назад

Why did they ruin ecms :(

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

I wouldn't say they are ruined! They were extremely extremely powerful back in PAYDAY 2 (always the best choice, if you knew how to use them), so the fact that they are more balanced now is quite nice :D

@KuroNeKitsu 9 месяцев назад

Men, after watching some payday 3 vidoes, it just feels so inferior to pd2. Maybe after 10 years of pd3 my opinion will be different, but for now pd2 is simply better game.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

PAYDAY 2 is absolutely superior currently yup! The mechanics in PAYDAY 3 are very good, and it's new and fresh which makes it fun, but they need to work a lot on reward balance, server stability, lobby creation speed, levelling systems, basic functionality for co-op communication, and more...

@dangdudedan8756 9 месяцев назад

2:08 everyone places deployables because if they didnt they wouldnt get xp.

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Half true, but half incorrect! We do indeed drop the deployables to complete more challenges, but simply completing the heist would eventually give heist challenges by itself, so the deployables are just a bonus :)

@selphieb1549 9 месяцев назад

Cant run payday 3 ;/

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Hey Selphie! That is a shame, because many people are in your same situation where their PC can run PAYDAY 2, but not 3... in any case, many of us went back to PAYDAY 2 because it still has so much fun content, so hopefully you can enjoy that still! :D

@iscrollinthecomments9642 9 месяцев назад

great to see that these take more skill compared to the complete braindead rushing of pd2

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Certainly Pho! The old rushes are still quite fun (especially when optimized to the maximum), but this new gameplay is a lot less forgiving, which is very nice :)

@MartinSK44 9 месяцев назад

POV: You're looking for the pinned comment

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Oops thanks for letting me know Martin, I've re-posted the pinned comment (with links to the other PoVs) to fix this!

@ghjkhb 9 месяцев назад

Payday 3 is a shit version of payday 2

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It certainly has a lot of things to fix before it can catch up in terms of quality yup!

@ghjkhb 9 месяцев назад

Quality and design choices are different I would argue. Having a boring skill system is a crime. How could they fuck this up?@@Marcmb

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Personally I enjoyed the researching skills during my first few days, and the skill system isn't too bad although more choices would be nice. Regardless, every few years the devs rework either the skill system or the individual skills, so I'm expecting they'll do the same with PAYDAY 3 whenever they get solid feedback on it!@@ghjkhb

@payday2speedrun 9 месяцев назад

woot! 1:25! is this the easiest heist of payday 3?

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

Possibly the easiest one yup! Rock the Cradle is also quite easy, and most of the time the heists have no reward for bonus loot, so everything is quite quick in PAYDAY 3 :D Also by the way, I still remember that I have some unread DMs from you Oliver (so many DMs from different people, because I've been extremely busy with IRL and content planning ever since PAYDAY 3 released), so hopefully I can go through my DMs in the very near future! Sorry about the delay...

@ireallydontknow278 9 месяцев назад

Damn might yave to try this since doety ice is so easy and fast to complete but sadly since i ahev no crew it might take a while but hey whatever

@Marcmb 9 месяцев назад

It's really fun to play! It's not very necessary because the heist is very easy in solo, but it's certainly even faster, if you can find 3 competent players :D

@ireallydontknow278 9 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb yeah which sadly most are not hell if I go into an overkill game there's People who still don't know about the multi tag scanner in the workshop