Ego 20" CS2000 - CSX5000 compared, torture tested and reviewed. Which chainsaw is best for you? 

@belement I had heard rumors of its development. Love the 18v compatability 👍. Look forward to checking it out.

Hahaha; I was just going to send this exact comment!

I think the CSX5000 is definitely a better saw, with more power and more ability to dissipate heat and handle the power, I just don't think the batteries are up to the task. I tried to cover it in the last couple minutes. I haven't run the tests yet, but I'm planning on doing some comparisons with a 7 tooth drive spur vs the 8 tooth it comes with. It will slow the saw down and hopefully make the motor have to work less. I did a video on doing the conversion, but I haven't really tested it yet.

@@reusefullI agree, in your endurance test of the CSX5000 the was the weak link. However, in real work cutting, would it be good enough?

@scottyz depends on how you're working I guess.

I agree... the saw is ahead of their battery technology

@brandonswan9247 The CSX5000 pushes plenty of oil, to be honest, I didn't really pay close attention to the CS2000, but I didn't notice it chattering or blueing.

Awesome! Glad you found it useful 👍

@John-cj3ve I saw that the chain speed was a bit slow, but if that 9.5nm torque is really accurate, that's a huge number. I heard from some folks involved with beta testing and if it's the same saw, they were really impressed. Milwaukee (fuel) has a pretty good track record, so I expect it to be fully vetted. I'm looking forward to trying that saw out. Very impressive that it still runs on M18 batteries. I think that will come out around the same time as the Greenworks H.O.G. saw which will be using pouch cell lithium ion batteries that can provide higher current to the tools. Whenever Ego comes up with that, it should greatly change the usability of the CSX5000.

I'm not conversant on the 'torque' thing. Does more torque mean you can lean on the saw with more pressure before it will stall?

@@John-cj3ve that's the way I would take it

I just did a little digging and I found battery specs for Ego on their EU website. Apparently ALL the large batteries including the backpack are rated for 60amp continuous output (@ 50.4 volts ~ 3000ish watts) EXCEPT the 10ah battery, which is rated for an 80 amp continuous output. (4000ish watts) I must acquire and test one of these batteries against the 8ah battery.

​@@reusefullThanks for the digging. I will put a couple of them on my short list. VERY intriguing 🤔

I can't remember, I'm pretty sure it has the dogleg oiling set up

Both measure 23.3125 inches (2-5/16)

@@reusefull It should be a simple switch then. NEXT is to see if I can transplant the bar and chain from the 2000 to the 1800!😁

👍That's too bad... kits are a big savings. I wonder why Ego does that too its UK customers?

@@reusefull They want us to go for the CS2000 at the moment I guess? Maybe they made more and need to sell them. idk. I did get the CSX5000 and it's more powerful than I thought it would be. I'm impressed. I think a key point with these saws for people to consider is weight tho. These things or a similar weight to a 90cc gas saw. The CSX5000 is also more quiet than I expected. It really does not sound like something of that power, it sounds like a typical smaller garden electric tool. For me sound is a real issue and is probably why I got this saw and it's great for that... I had to get the 7.5Ah battery which I hope will work ok. Are there any generic batteries which you recommend with these saws or do only the ego ones work? I saw you try one test which failed and wondered if you knew of anything out there which can do it? Thanks again for your videos, I have watched most of them! :P

@markboggs746 from what I've seen, for these really high draw, powerful tools, you can't get away with aftermarket batteries. If it was a weed trimmer or something, that's a different story, but for the CSX5000 even the Ego batteries aren't really enough. Maybe at some point they'll move to pouch barite or something that can handle more draw and then this batteries can provide the CSX5000 with the power it needs without overheating. The 12ah battery is better, but it makes the weight issue even worse.

@@reusefull Thank you, your advice is very welcome. I was considering getting a non Ego battery and now I will not. I guess I will get a 12aH better as they apparently have less overheating issues. I wonder when the new Greenworks will come out and if it will be much better? I suspect that they are struggling to make their new product better than their old one (which was almost as good as the CSX5000) as perhaps the limit is battery tech rather than saw tech and they don't make the batteries...

@markboggs746 I'm no tech, but based on what we've seen, I'm sure you're correct and the batteries are the limitation they're trying to work through.

The thumbs down I gave your comment wasn't meant to be mean or anything; it's just that I disagree with you. Among my many saws; I have a couple of CS1800s; and I prefer using a 7.5ah battery instead of the 5ah it comes with. That being said; I also have a 12ah battery for my CSX5000; and I wouldn't consider using it on my 1800s; because of the weight. So, my apologies; not having a 10ah battery; I guess I really can't comment. I don't know if the handling of the 10ah would be closer to the 7.5 or the 12.

I think the CS2000 is easier to use right now. Once Ego comes out with the pouch cells, I think the CSX5000 will be the way to go.

@CA34562 I didn't try, but I believe they would swap pretty easily. I did a couple of videos on swapping a CSX5000 to 3/8 drive... I used a 24 inch bar, but everything applies similarly to a 20 inch.

@@reusefull if you get the chance. Would you be able to check and see? Specifically if the sprocket you used for the 24inch 3/8 Husqvarna bar on the CXS5000 is the same as the cs2000 sprocket?

@@CA34562 I apologize, but I don't have the CS2000 anymore. I do all this stuff on my own dime, so I get rid of stuff to get more.

@@reusefull all good, I appreciate your videos 👍

@@John-cj3ve I don't know, but I would guess not

@@reusefull I just checked; and one link of 3/8 is 3/4"; so I guess it would be kinda iffy.

​@reusefull what do you think about the physical size of the bar of the 2000 accounting for the odd number of drive links,? The bar seems awfully narrow top to bottom. If the 2000 was fitted with a 'regular' profile bar; like the 20" Husqvarna bar you purchased for your CSX5000; do you think the 2000 then would take a more conventional number of links; like 70, or72?

@John-cj3ve Maybe. The other 20 inch cordless saws are .325 instead of 3/8, so it's hard to make the comparison, but they all seem to use a "normal" number of 78dl on their 20 inch bars. If you can get a normal profile bar on though, it makes sense that it would take a little more length. (Watch it be 71🤦‍♂️😂)

So much money!!!😅

​@@reusefullI'll bet it would cost over 1500.00 to get one running.

That's a great idea, but unfortunately, I won't be able to run that comparison because I don't have the 60v Greenworks pro and I won't be keeping the CS2000. I'm not sponsored by anyone, so I have to sell stuff to buy more. I can tell you from running them all at different times, my feel is that the 60v Greenworks would be a strong winner. It's really my favorite of all the saws I have tried. It will run a battery out without overheating it and it has almost as much power... I mean really really close as the 82CS34. I would have kept that as my go to saw, but I'm already married to the 80v/82v lineup.

Thx

@@John-cj3ve 👍👍 Idk about the charger, but that doesn't sound right.

I suppose I should put in ANOTHER call to EGO 😢

​@@reusefullI just got off the phone with EGO; they are sending me a new charger! Pretty fabulous customer service!

@@John-cj3ve that's always a plus. Good to know they take care of people.

​@reusefull my replacement charger just arrived today; and it just so happens that I've been saving an exhausted battery for it. I am happy to report that the original charger IS defective. I stayed by the charger watching RU-vid videos during the entire cycle time so that I could get an accurate assessment of the temperature of the battery when finished; and it was just a little warm; like when they come off the Rapid charger. EGO/Chervon are good trusting people. I think we all regard ourselves as family.

112v chainsaw?? That's some power!!

@@reusefullthat would be awesome but I was referring to the Flex power tool brand that’s owned by the same parent company as Ego. Their using pouch cells instead of cylindrical cells which gives them more power, lower heat, and better cycle life.

@inlinesix1187 Ego definitely need to up their battery game to handle that saw, that would be great! I am not familiar with the Flex, but I'll check it out.

I don't have a 10, but I will compare the 8 and 12 at some point.

I just remembered... I may be able to get my hands on a 10, I seem to remember a comment somewhere saying that the 10 ah battery was set up for current and the 12 ah was set up for runtime, so who knows what could be discovered. I'll have to wait between each test to make sure the saw is starting from the same point. It was unfortunate that I messed up on the video, because I ran 2 batteries through the CS2000 with no problem. The batteries were still the limiting factor, but not as badly because the saw is less powerful than the CSX5000.

Thanks. The reason I'm asking is because I'd like to know about the 10ah performance before making a decision on a future battery purchase.

@NaughtyGoatFarm bummer... I just ordered a 10ah battery to see if that would solve the overheating with the 8 and 12 ah battery. The gen 3 10 is supposed to be able to handle more current.

@@reusefull I just got a brand new 10ah battery under warranty as the chainsaw killed it with overheating. Honestly that battery only had maybe 50 cycles on it with a line trimmer and blower, and the chainsaw killed it after about 3 cycles. Was it coincidence or did the chainsaw kill it? The new 10ah battery is acting the same way, overheats before it is flat, so I am not holding out much hope for it. I have ordered a 28ah backpack battery (BAX1500) so will see how that holds up. I figure if the draw is spread over more cells then perhaps there will be less chance of overheating the battery. I still think the batteries need internal fans.

@NaughtyGoatFarm I am very curious to see if the backpack holds up. I know with the Greenworks chainsaw, the battery capacity made a large difference in performance and overheating from 4 to 5 to 8 ah, but I haven't noticed that difference with the Ego between the 8 and 12ah. Hopefully Ego comes out with a pouch cell battery soon, and that will maybe solve the problems with the current lineup.

@@NaughtyGoatFarmbattery back plugged into the saw is smart. is on your back on not your hands, I like it.

​@@AdventuresInTheSkyI received the 28ah backpack battery. It is terrible. The saw only runs at 2 out of 3 power bars and bogs down and stops like it is overloaded where a 7ah or 10ah battery won't bog and stop. I'm seriously unimpressed.

🤷‍♂️batteries kept being the first point of failure... finger on the trigger until it stopped each time

I 100% disagree with robertlee's comment. In real world testing; the earliest point of failure IS the battery. Shame on robertlee! @reusefull's tests are VERY helpful for those of us who actually use this equipment; and we should all be grateful for the time and expense and hassle he goes through to bring us this content!

@benjaminleslie3155 it looks like it will be released around the same time as the HOG saw. Just got some Intel on the Greenworks batteries coming out. "Core 300 400 and 530" From what I can see, Milwaukee will be using a low profile/thin kerf guide bar and chain, which is probably to help get the most out of the amp-hr capacity.