Making a decision about taking someone on the books should never be done when your under pressure, hold your nerve, say 'NO' to some work and really think it through.
If your after staff, you can either employ a Nigel to wind up everyday, and film their ass crack, a Naomi who you could have a great laugh with, and eye candy, or an Adam who’s very quiet and will cost you a fortune in MacDonald’s and kids umbrellas 🤣. But seriously what about an apprentice? As you always go back to what (having never done any college on electrical installations) what I would say is the very basic - Safe Isolation, proving dead. So you’d be a good mentor.
Hi Jordan, pretty committed filming at that time on a Friday afternoon! Nice job! Quick questions, how come you fitted a board with so many spare ways?
I agree with no shower isolator being a c3 but would you change a shower unit and leave it without a switch? Only asking because I’m in that situation now. Obviously says in the shower instructions an isolator must be fitted. Feel as though I’m in a bit of a dodgey position saying it’s ok to change the consumer unit and leave it but not ok to change the shower. Excellent videos thanks.
Well that's an interesting question. I will certainly say that there's a certain level of best judgment that has to be taken and I'm over the pond in the US. we would consider the breaker a means of disconnect but newer code requires that the water heater, air conditioners Etc. would have a means of Disconnect that is visible from the object. I hope that's food for thought. Although they are not required on air handlers unless they're large, stoves and some other things code is weird.
The overhanging board is not acceptable , it causes a pinch point , one of my pet pieves protruding panels , that hager board is probably 240mm , you can get units as narrow as 220mm thoretically something could if it becomes trapped pull the board off the wall or wedge Its all about health and safety on tenanted property as they are covered by that act. As your the expert and fitted it its your nuts in the trap.
Calm down Steve, he’s made the house much safer with a new board and other bits and bobs and your worried about a 5mm overhang, what’s this pinch point you talk of ? Total bollocks.
@@supersparks9466 Its a flat , tight doorway and your having tenants move furniture in and out its going to take punishment , what for sake of getting the right size board.
@@artisanelectrics Point is though you had alternatives , It gives the impression your a cowboy (which looking at your other works your not) , the heads of those doorways take a right beating during removals 5mm is enough if some clumsy mutt whacks it to damage the unit possibly dislodge it . As a tenanted property your getting high turnover of residents too
How do you get on with the 28 day period to do the remedial works after a failed test if you’re completely booked up and too busy. It’s a constant problem I have.
Jordan my advice is to hire 2-3 apprentices they will give you much more longer term value. Yes there maybe some initial human investment but the payoff would be greater you will be able to influence individuals to the same quality standards you aspire to. Older electricians would be more set in their ways. If they apprentices graduate to being good enough then you can hire them on full sparky contract.
@@artisanelectrics can I ask about you coding it as a C2? I am someone who is trying to learn. I watched David Slavery's video on the topic and no RCD protection for internal sockets is a C3 so too is cables under 50mm. So I could understand if there was out buildings or shed with power it would be a C2. Just wanted to pick your brain about it. Thank you
@@BC-mo5dv I think if I remember, David Savery's video was a flat that was not on the ground floor. As the sockets couldn't be used to supply equipment used outside I think that's why he coded it as C3. As this was ground floor and it is possible to use the sockets to supply equipment to be used outside it would be a C2.
I'd come and work for you. Got my inspection and testing. Only one catch. I'd have start out at 5am from Cardiff. I'd get to Cambridge by lunchtime. Have lunch, then start back home. I suspect that you may, in all the circumstances, have an occasional better candidate apply? But if not, think of me.
Hi Jordan. Well I have just learntsomething again I always thought a rewireable was good up to 3kA. Was again good video always manage to pick up some good tips.
I'm an American electrician and are electrical inspectors would never allow electrical panels to be put in some of the places that I see on your show. One of are electrical inspectors here in Kansas where I live is from Great Britain. He is a very good inspector. He is very familiar with American electrical ways, also with British electrical ways. He's very interesting to talk to.Have a great day.
I think that's mostly because we have a lot higher turnover in the housing market with new builds and we've pushed code a lot more and way sooner in the development of the technology. we also started with some more common sense things like water and electricity don't mix. I think over the doors in the UK is more of a it was the easiest place to retrofit since the buildings were older and that just caught on as the trend. Plus we generally just like to regulate everything.
@@AlexEatonPDPIGaming Panels need to be accessible if you need to get to them for safety reasons and convenience. I'm semi retired have been an electrician for 53 years and safety is important and are electrical equipment is very good quality. Square D, Allen Bradley, Cutler Hammer, Siemens, etc. I consider American equipment as good as British equipment. I have worked with a lot of European equipment. They were all good quality so what's your point.
Yeah done that got the tee shirt ect, unless you want to get to a medium size firm stick with subbies, also once you have a few guys working you need to be in the office all day and doing site visits.
You should of mounted an adaptable box in place of the old one and extended the cable in din connectors and mounted the new board on the adjacent wall and ran the extension cables in some 2x2 pvc trunking.
The new board barely overhangs to be fair. That would be a lot of extra work and uneccessary joints to save a 5mm overlap, plus an additional box and trunking on the wall?
@@PJB71 As it is now its unsafe , thats probably the only entrance to the flat furnishings , white goods etc have got to go through that doorway , the CU is hanging low, it won't take much smack that and dislodge it from the wall , certainly cause buckling of the unit . Far better to put a narrower unit in or move the unit elseware. Sparks are going round C2 old installations which still meet the regulations when first installed , upgrading them and using the excuse it where it was originally , we can't have it both ways . As its a tenanted property its also covered by Health and Safety at work regulations .Jordon should know this , wouldnt have taken much effort to lower the soffit , may be 9mm plasterboard or edge bead and over skim if a smaller unit wasnt available
Well done for changing a board on a friday afternoon any problems could had seen you going home late 🙈 all go at the moment isnt it with the PRS rules that have come in. Just one query, that old rewireable board you put that MCB into. Did you replace the fuse cover once you finished? Because that keeps the integrity of the ip rating of those boards. I see people throw them after putting in those mcbs but they must go back on. Hager also make a dual tariff board for properties with dual tariff. Or you can make your own with a high integrity board. 👍🏼
@@artisanelectricsI'm not keen on the idea but I have seen the covers are cut to fit tight around the raised MCB. Iv never done it myself and if I was in that position I'd had changed it tbh. Ps I could do with picking your brains regarding OLEV grant if your able to help.
Nice video! Nice install on consumer unit it must of been tricky above the door also how come the tenant left all the stuff there? The tenant must of wasted money on the kitchenware and the clothes/ furniture. What is gonna happen to it when the new tenant comes?
The 1KA PFC of the 3036,s doesn’t matter as the suppliers cutout fuse is used as a back up. Where a service cut out containing a cartridge fuse to BS1361 type 2 supplies a consumer unit which complies with BS5486-13 or BS EN 60439-3, then the short circuit capacity of the overcurrent protective devices within consumer units may be taken to be 16kA. In other words the service cut out fuse protects the integrity of the board and fuses and these need not be changed to comply with short circuit current breaking requirements. I love your videos & we are all here to learn, but you have to be careful, because sparks will watch this & be failing installations, because the PFC is higher than the OCPD can handle in the fuse board. Also just to note, 3036’s whether us as sparks like them or not, they cannot just be replaced, just because they don’t comply with the current regs. You can make recommendations. However Your board change was spot on, not extending the cables was the right call. I would have also put the plug in circuit breaker in the other board as well 👍🏼
Thanks. Can you explain why that is the case? For example if there is a direct short between L-N on that immersion heater circuit surely the short circuit current will be more than 1kA and it will blow the fuse carrier to pieces before the main cutout fuse blows?
Hi, it’s called back up protection or secondary protection. It should be in guidance note 3 & 6. If you have a group of say 10 mcb’s that are rated at 3ka & you have a fault current of 7ka, a 60a HBC supply fuse rated at 16ka or 33ka would provide the necessary backup or secondary protection. It’s not something new, it has been around for a long time. How many times do you come across 3036’s in commercial buildings. In a domestic situation you are not even required to measure PFC now. It is to be noted at 16Ka. There will be thousands of installs with SE3036 where the PFC or the PEFC exceeds their rated value. We are all here to learn & help each other, nobody knows everything except John ward & sparky ninja your work is amazing & your attention to detail is excellent. Keep the videos coming 👍🏼
Good video here where I am from we have NEC which would not allow the breaker handle over 6’ off the ground y’all s seems very let say different than ours
On a panel replacement there are minimum amperage requirements 100amp residential minimum and maximum height for meters box’s And panel placement it looks like y’all install a lot of cable covered conductors we use EMT conduit and ridged conduit and metal covered seal tight for outdoor or outside of the walls and as far as testing were not required to test
@@lewis94uk usually above doors or high level in kitchen or hallway , the idea was to stop children , women messing with them (times have changed ) , the old boards had exposed components if you pulled a fuse and if my rather dodgy memory serves me not all boards had a isolator switch , many only had a single pole switch and not much was earth bonded back then. At high level you effectively insulated yourself from the ground with a set of wooden steps . Another issue some installations were fused on the neutral as well as the line , if the neutral went down the board was still live
Yeah I think we started the regulation game early out of need but we also had a certain standard of installation practice back then somewhat mostly because the people installing them were trained fairly well. Back in the knob and tube days I've seen some nice and crazy stuff. We had neutral fusing to that one whent out pretty quickly thankfully although the practice doesn't I'm sure there's plenty of installations that still have them that were more contract work can you say government buildings.
