Elden Ring's Secret Monsters You've Never Seen! | Deep Sea Lore 

Can't remember where it was but before release Myazaki did an interview and was asked about the sea monsters on the map. His reply was that he couldn't talk about them at that time. If they had nothing to do with content for the game I think he would simply have said so. Based on that I think sea monsters will have a significant role in the DLC.

Miyazaki has wanted to do a sea monster battle since at least DS1, what became the Hydra, though I remember reading that he was disastisfied and wanted something bigger. Maybe we'll see that desire realized in the DLC.

The moon and water are closely connected in some way. The Carians built circular pools specifically to reflect the moon. I've always thought maybe the reflection acted as a portal for them to go there. There's also the inverted tower which has a similar theme of traversing the reflection. The sky and the cosmos are one.

I sure got so excited seeing all the wrecked ships, and was absolutely certain something would come up out of the sea in the area on Weeping Peninsula where all the corpses are just meandering on the beach. Another point towards water/ocean=world of the dead is that in Celtic lore, Manannan mac Lir is someone akin to the lord of the dead, and he lives in the ocean, which to him appears like a field full of magical horses that can traverse both land and water. Definitely has me thinking of the field of wheat, and all the horseshoes on posts in the image we have for the dlc.. 👀

No one gonna mention that at 2:30 the creature with the 'goofy face' is basically Godwin? It's the same upside down visage on a long fish body found both below Stormvale Castle and in the area where you find Fia at the end of her questline. Also, for my money, those many-legged fish instantly remind me of the Sniper Shrimp/Lobster/Crayfish from Liurnia and the sewers below the capital...

I hope they explore the ocean in the DLC. What are your thoughts?

There's an interview Miyazaki did with Edge magazine before the game came out that actually validates your theory. In the interview Miyazaki was asked about the importance of water in the narrative and he said it was very important but didn't give away too much in the way of story details.

Godwyn's aquatic death theming is reminiscent to me of Aldrich's coming age of deep waters from DS3. I love how From revisits and reimagines ideas again and again, and yet keeps them fresh!

i want a pirate souls game with sea monsters, mixed with bloodborne aesthetics, i would never need another game again.

I don’t think all of this is a coincidence because everything you said is pretty much connected, and i’m a huge fan of Japanese sea monsters.

I’m surprised at how quickly you brushed over the elden beast fight. I think the arena and form the elden beast takes ties super well into the theme of the ocean being tied with a spirit world.

As a student of marine bio, I really love how the majority of aquatic horrors in these games are invertebrates like crustaceans and mollusks. They're amazing creatures, and I love fighting giant versions of them 💖

The world of the dead being connected to water is definitely interesting and fitting. The ocean deep is to us such an unknown place, and just like death, diving into the dark is a terrifying mystery.

Aldrich’s age of deep water has finally come!!!

Given how the combat system works, I imagine any deep sea bosses we’ll fight will be stranded on a beach, or perhaps the Tarnished can jump into a unique underwater boss arena that lets us breath safely?

Ever since DS3 I want an ocean themed DLC or even game by From Software. Cause one of the most fascinating lore aspects of DS3 was Aldrichs Age of the Deep Sea to me. So I really hope they make use of that massive ocean surrounding The Lands Between.

We need a legacy dungeon that is a ship!

Sea/Large/deep bodies of water have been a pretty consistent theme in Fromsoft games, hopefully with the dlc they explore it. I want some waterthemed Elden Ring bosses.

I can definitely see water playing an important part in the DLC. The Lands Between are beset with kegare - the defilement and pollution of death (among other pollutants created during the shattering). Godwyn’s body is itself kegare as a result of his murder and spreads through the lands. Still water is a marker and breeding ground for kegare as well - most all those tainted places have still waters except for places we transition from one place to another *in a coffin* on a waterfall. To clear kegare the one responsible for it must be the one to purify it through rituals involving clean moving water like rivers and waterfalls. Though the Tarnished was not directly involved, as Elden Lord they could represent the avatar of responsibility and thus be tasked with clearing the corruption of kegare throughout the Lands. Food for thought! (Or Water, that is).

Its crazy how much water we have in the map but we cant explore it, talking about these games, almost everything is there for a lore reason, specially in elden ring where you can “go there if you see it”, so i find strange how big and detailed the map is when you open it but can’t access to those places… yet

The water in the Elden Beast and Rennala fight more so I think has to do with their back story. Rennala is the Queen of the Moon, The Elden Beast seemingly comes from space. The water maybe there because the Moon can manipulate the currents in the Oceans. I also wonder if there will be different paths you can go down based on which ending you selected. Maybe more watery content for finishing Rani’s quest line.

Roderica came to the lands bewteen from outside via ship. I think she is the only tarnished that came from the present while all other tarnished traveled from the past.

Since Dark Souls 2 the Deep Sea theme with underwater temples, that also came in Bloodborne with the Eldritch Great Ones, and Dark Souls 3 with the "The Deep" and the so called Age of the Deep Sea, and Elden Ring with many aquatic like enemies. Im convinced that we will explore the Deep accursed Eldritch Sea one day as a full fledged game.

The amount of detail in this game is staggering. How they keep it all together as a development staff is even more so.

"If you enjoy these lore DEEP DIVES..." heh, I see what you did there

I remember coming across ur channel a while ago and u only had maybe 10 or 15,000 subscribers. I hopped on pretty early and have watched u grow and get better with each video. Granted u had some theories that I couldn’t get behind but it’s good to see u get bigger and bigger. I’m sure if not before the dlc or even armored core u will hit 100k my guy. Keep up the good work bro

I love how one of the only sea or water Monsters that we see are crabs, land octopus and crayfish and they are colossal, imagine the rest of the creatures we have no knowledge of.

Great video as usual very thought provoking. Made me think of the fact we literally begin each journey laying in water. Water as symbology is replete across numerous art forms. Always enjoy the content and the considerable effort to bring something worthy to the laden table of ER topics.

Another thought is that when you get in coffins in the underground you’re pushed off down water falls to reach the city where Godfrey’s body and the undead dragon are. And there are other coffins left opened and closed at the base of the waterfalls meaning people had a habit of casting the dead and those seeking death off in to water to the depths

I was honestly hoping the game would have a lot more sea monster themes and even areas in it when I first saw the corpse of Godwin under Stormvaile. Even the axe of Godfrey has a spiky tentacle motive on it.

I appreciate that you are continuing to ask these questions. I find it absurd that people seem to think there are not more lore answers to find.

if only there was a really powerful mentor who utilizes a sword based on flowing water.

I wonder if the boats will eventually be usable in game in the dlc Edit: Perhaps the use of water could tie in with lovecraftian themes???

As someone with pretty severe thalassophobia I really hope there aren't deep sea monsters in the DLC, unless you can fight them above ground or in shallow water. Sekiro was terrifying enough having to swim by the giant fish, but if Elden Ring DLC features any underwater sections or ocean traversal I may not be able to bring myself to play it. P.S. Thanks for introducing me to my new nightmare, Omibozu; that's creepy as hell and I'd shit my pants if I saw that in a game. 😅

Not only is Umibozu a sicc name, the “monster habitat do not approach” is also horrifying. Let’s go OCEAN MONSTERS

One of the best lore videos to date, another great video!

Ive platinumed this game and have put over 400 plus hours into it and I've never noticed the waterfall that connects Caelid and the Mountaintops, not on the map nor in person in game. That's wild

This actually sounds awesome. I would love to have a sea monster/ocean themed DLC, that would be so cool!

I miss the Closed Netwrok test PVP ahaha, it was so fun that no one really knew what they were doing

Awesome video i hope we get some deep sea boss fights somehow,we go everywhere to every peak in elden ring from underground to way high in the mountains and everywhere in between besides the sea and as scary and as much as deep sea imagery and potential boss fight is freaky to me im crazy excited to see that potentially

Knowing there are ship wrecks yet The Lands Between has no harbor at all, really makes me wondering what's life out of the Lands Between. Is there any entity similar to the Greater Will out there? Or is there a continent that dedicated to worship one God or one belief only? Or even an entity that has bigger influence than The Greater Will itself? Is there an event similar to The Shattering that its still going on out there? How differ or how far the civilization out there compared to The Lands Between?

The monsters of all time!

Ever since Ash Lake I’ve wanted an ocean focused DLC. Blood borne just exacerbated that feeling lol

What I think about the relationship with Rennala and the water in the boss fight is because at this stage of the fight she is able to summon spirits, so it kind of makes sense.

This is it-this is the vid I've been waiting for! Give me that sweet sweet deep sea lore

This is gonna sound strange so bear with me. It's all just speculation based off some old cut content I don't really see many people talk about. (probably because it's not very well known) Umibozu could also be a remnant of DS3 since development took place congruently, as such there are a ton of ideas that bled over from one to the other. For example, I've seen a few early beta maps of DS3 and in areas where giant enemy crabs should be, there's a completely different enemy altogether. These maps are left over from a state of development when the crabs didn't exist in DS3. So I have a good reason to believe that the crabs are actually an Elden Ring asset and didn't actually originate from DS3 because they are the only enemy in the game that not only makes zero sense in the world but still has the same stagger mechanic that their ER counterpart does. Now, how does this relate to Umibozu? Well, in DS3 the older version of the Aldrich boss fight was very similar to the Phalanx fight in Demon's Souls. He would crawl from out of his coffin halfway through the fight with the Decons of the Deep and just sludge around like a blob while the congregation takes the offense. When the game's story changed entirely they needed a new boss to be in Anor Londo, they shuffled a few things around and Frankensteined a new Aldrich boss using already existing assets. (The top half of Lothric wearing a funny hat and some slime enemies all mashed together) In the lore, this Aldrich makes mention of having "dreams of a deep sea" so if we take this bit of info and add the old version of the boss you get something that's supposed to be an Umibozu type monster. That old ER map could have been from a period of development where it was a reference to that version of him. If future DLC does involve the sea, I think whatever version of Aldrich that used to be in DS3 will show up again in ER. From isn't above reusing unfinished ideas in DLC or future games. I mean, literally every game is filled with reused assets. Even ER's compass is in an old build of Bloodborne and it would be used while exploring the Chalice Dungeons, which not surprisingly used to be part of the main overworld like they are in ER. I don’t know, maybe that all sounds way too stupid. Lol

Godfrey's Axe has an octopus/tentacle motif that is rarely discussed.

awesome video man!

What if the reson for all the ship wreaks. Along with the big water fall, and water/death related stuff, is because there was like a water god who lowered the sea level suddenly. Or because the tide being connected to the moon might have something to do with Radon and Ronnie quest line, and releasing the stars

West of the church of Ella, along the beach not far from the sleeping Kaiden enemy is a mysterious purple cloud mass that rest at the edge where the shore line and drop off meet. It's isolated in a particular area and doesn't spread away from that spot. I suggest going at night despite it being visible during the day just to get a better view of it. I have always found it strange that this foggy mass just sat there but with all you have brought to light perhaps this may have a connection.

You mentioned the Octopus.. but even scarier are the Shellfish! Those Lobster snipers and DS3 Crabs, O My.

I'm still convinced that one beach with all the walking dead has to have something going on no ones just figured it out yet lol

Considering the world of the living as we know it is called "The Lands Between", the world of Death might be called "The Seas Below" or some such. That would also make the cosmos the realm of the gods, "The Stars Above" if you will, which DEFINITELY checks out, considering most of the Outer Gods are themed on celestial objects. Blessings rain from the sky, while Death and curses pool beneath the world.

I think there will possibly be many expansions to Elden Ring. They did talk about keeping it profitable for the foreseeable future. The only way to do that is with multiple large expansions.

Thank you for these videos, I think you have the best Elden Ring content on the platform.

Them going shadow of the collosus having us slaying giant sea serpents would be AMAZING but i have my doubts, though i do hope we get a dark souls continuation after the end of the age of fire that fcouses on the age of the deep.

Some time ago you made a video about from soft's future speculating there could be a deep sea themed game by from soft and I feel strongly about it, I think from soft is testing things for now and such a game can be seen in the far future

Great video! I really hope they expand on some of these themes in the DLC.

It is highly likely that the rusted anchor references our boat and that we never left in very early builds of the game, as the Kenneth haight’s father’s quest dictates as he says he was surprised to see a tarnished as they all left on the boats, except for us apparently

Interesting video and would be really cool to see more water areas and creatures

3:49 this picture elicits a very strange and uniquely spooky feeling in me for some reason

10:40 "it didn't dive into that theme" i see what you did there 😂

The other significance water has is it’s connection to scarlet rot… Melania’s mentor was had a flowing water style, hence her learning waterfowl dance, it’s believed the flowing nature of water helped her fight off the rot as something that is stagnant by nature

Probably late but congrats on 100k subscribers! That's incredible!

Even though i couldnt imagine breaking the lore down in the depth that you do, on my first play through i too found this water theme. When i reached elden beast i thought wow this is the big reveal, like bloodborne's twist. I was disappointed of course and didnt really think much more of it. I would love for the dlc to revolve around this and the story/dream of miquella.

about the Rennala Arena: the boss we are fighting is something like a spirit/ghost (from what I gathered with Ranni's interference in the fight), also she is the "Queen of the full Moon". Us seeing a full moon in the Arena could be a hint on the gravitational pull on water, bringing the high tide and the border between the worlds closer so she can summon her Spirits to protect and fight for her.

Exploring some sort of ocean or flooded underwater caves with giant sea creatures in the background would be amazing.

Well, there's the themes of flowing water symbolizing life and stagnant water, death. That doesn't explain much beyond the theming of Godwyn, but the oceans are far more still than they once were, going by the map and what we actually see when exploring. The great falls seem to be a sort of barrier to prevent entry to Leyndell via the sea. If we're to accept the idea of the Lands Between being the inner world of the mind, then the ships, whirlpools, and sea serpents can symbolize ideas that are having trouble reaching consciousness. So the falls could symbolize the core beliefs being closed off.

Rennala constantly being revived might have to do with her being in the water if it's a crossing that she can go back and forth from through rebirth Amazing video, been pondering the seas in ER for a hot minute now, really hoping to get some aquatic themes in the DLC

Now this, was a damn good one! So fascinating 👍👍

So on the map alone theres lots of boats and whirlpools and clouds and tiny places everywhere, i wonder if those will all be accesible in the dlc

This dlc needs to come out. Elden Ring content creators are starving

I'm pretty sure that in Elden Ring water is a resource needed to support massive soul arts for both sorceries and incantations. That's why you fight Rennala and the Nebula Dragon on top of what seems like a lake. The same thing happens with the golden holo version of Godfrey since right under the platform where the fight takes place there are massive water pools.

A quick theory that just popped in my mind: Maybe the reason why there are no marine creatures is because of the foggy clouds we see on the map. Maybe since the elden ring was shattered, the lands between may have gotten abandoned and isolated because of the fog that surrounds it after the shattering and also explains the name of the lands between, a land between the oceans of two other lands. The reason why the mariner creatures died is because they may have not have the ability of crossing the fog and because of that they may loose their food and stuff. I just made this outta nowhere.

Ive seen people mention the unused Umibozu, but not really connected it directly with the corpse of Godwyn under the capital. Out of everything in game that we can see, to me he seems to fit the description best. Maybe early plans intended for a different use instead of just a set piece, after all we do fight the other children of Marika one way or another.

A cemetery shade fits the description of Umibozu, fairly well, in regards to their appearance.

I definitely think that the DLC will have to explore something with water. The little information we have so far about the DLC is all connected someway to water, if losely. Miquella is connected to spirits who have connections to water, which you covered in the video. Miquella is also connected to Godwyn who is seen as this fish monster almalgam because of his body not dying, which is connected to death root, which effects water. It seems like the DLC will take place in a spirit world, which has themes of water. And I could go on, like with Miquellas connect to the eclipse and bringing back the dead, etc, etc. While the sea and water may not be the MAIN theme of this upcoming DLC, it will probably be tied to it in a way that means it must be explored.

Didnt they say the DLC was meant to be two expansions? What if Miquella is just "half" of it and the other half is sea themed like many other leaks said?

Bloodborne had the Fishing Hemlet/Kos thing, Sekiro also had this whole waters from the Fountainhead Palace/Mibu Village, I do hope we get a deep sea lore, area or boss in the DLC with Godwyn 🙏🏼 I remember being sad we don't get to beat him, get an aquatic weapon/armor based after beating him

I imagine the lakes in liernia used to be quite a bit deeper. It seems like the center of the Elden Ring map isn’t a proper part of the ocean. If the Shadow of the erdtree poster is a dramatization of the in game area. I reckon the lake of liernia drained into this now submerged play space.

I have heard many times people remark on the center of the map as a potential dlc region, which is the center of all the towers where you activate great runes. Given the size and scope of SotE, it is doubtful such a landmass would fit there, but if we have to traverse water to get to it, I wonder if that might be the point of entry?

It’s like a whole new world opened up.

Sea monsters being cut content makes sense because there’s a beach where a big group of the zombie-like enemies kind of just wander around

3:48 THAT JUMP SCARED THE SHT OUT OF ME!

the ships in the distance when you're on shores is very interesting, along with all the wreckage gathered and the enemies on the shore too. Maybe the DLC will have a Sea aspect to it. Also does it not seem like in the elden Ring map that maybe the pace got nuked.

With the chairs in the water and the numerous boats wrecked just off shore and that waterfall, it gives me the impression the land was once much larger and got flooded for some reason.

The theme of the dead and of water could have to do with the River Styx, the Japanese use of the sea as an abode of the dead (such as Jizo and dead children), and the art of divination via Scrying (or talking to the dead via a reflective pool of water). Another interesting sea monster referenced in version 1.00 of Elden Ring is the merchant note referencing a graverobber lord by the name of Sceiron. Sceiron was a Greek robber who would ask to wash the feet of travelers, then kick them off a cliff into the maw of a giant sea turtle. He reminds me of Patches, tbh.

The idea of getting some ocean related content is extremely exciting!

They haven't just set it up in Elden Ring, they've been setting it up since Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3 and especially BloodBorne, where there are some very strong connections between the dpeths of the ocean and primordial truths and eldritch creatures. I wouldn't be surprised (and even be really happy) if either this DLC turns out to have some oceanic connections or if From is even going to fully lean into it and make a game fully dedicated to the murky depths.

In my opinion you're missing the mark a little bit on death and it's connection to water. Life and death is a cycling process in ER lore. The Ed Tree is a force that manipulates that process (manipulates water) for its own purposes. The moon and ocean symbolize the water cycle in a natural state without outside interference. Stagnant water (Rot) symbolizes a complete halt of the process, letting unsavory things develop. Cursed water (those who live in death) is water that moves around but is unable to fulfill its purpose of restoring life. The Frenzied Flame wants to remove water all together and be done with the processes of life and death. And from what I gather The Lord of Blood wants to replace water (a spiritual force) with blood (and purely physical force) Basically Life completely without death. But I'm not very confident on this last point.

There's one thing though: Sea/deep themed DLC would literally be the third time in a row that a From DLC is about or brushes this aesthetic. DS3 (murkmen) and, much more clearly, BB did this, so that it kinda detracts a bit from the potential novelty of it in ER.

Knowing the history and relationship between Japan & China I can't help but speculate that terrifying monster to the East is Fromsoft's way of telling China not to tread on them. Also given this is the Chinese/Asia build of the game, the emphasis in oceanic themes/monsters does not surprise me.

Such a great video. There’s something very strange about all of the Hydrogenic flaws in this world. One of the biggest mysteries to me is the large body of water in the middle of the Lands Between with the Divine Towers. It seems to be isolated and above sea level judging from the descending waterfall to the east but how is that even possible? The rain would have to be biblical for that waterfall to maintain itself but it clearly isn’t so what exactly is the deal there?

Another Fantastic Video

This is very cool, in all the fromsoft games ive never even given thought what absolute eldritch horrors might inhabit the oceans of its world

I think there literally is land across the sea from the lands between, whether this place is metaphysical or an actual continent you still need ships to get here and to leave. Given that the map reflects a lot of the terrain changes that came about after the shattering, specifically the big hole in Leyndell, it's probably a post-shattering map and the ships all represent different tarnished coming here, since we know there's been a long period of time of tarnished being called here by grace. It's probably well-known that tarnished will often sail to the lands between.

I've been trying to figure out the ships sense I first seen them and the only thing I can think of is it will take you to one of the DLCs that big cloud in the middle of the map

I wonder if they will do anything about the massive whirlpool south of Mt. Gelmir as it looks to have a massive stone or ship in the middle of it.

I think having water in Rennalas stage fits the theme since the moon is associated with rise and fall of tides

This might hint to the DLC having swimming/underwater zones or new continents/islands that are only traversable through a ship. Might also link to From’s rumored upcoming game “Spellbound” that supposedly has tons of water elements.