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Volcano Manor has BIG DLC Secrets! | Elden Ring DLC Shadow of the Erdtree 

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Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Gameplay Trailer just dropped and its packed FULL of information. We breakdown hidden details from in the DLC gameplay trailer. Elden Ring is a 2022 action role-playing game developed by FromSoftware. It was directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki with worldbuilding provided by fantasy writer George R. R. Martin.
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Messmer And Snakes
4:12 DLC Symbolism
7:06 Godskins
7:57 Conclusion
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@Mythic916
@Mythic916 Месяц назад
I was cautious. Half of me was expecting an April fools video
@Bender_B._Rodriguez
@Bender_B._Rodriguez Месяц назад
Doncha know april fools was canceled this year because nothing can be a bigger joke than reality.
@willyfinny8384
@willyfinny8384 Месяц назад
@@Bender_B._Rodriguez 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@ariel5301
@ariel5301 Месяц назад
Fr
@juliancamacho3837
@juliancamacho3837 Месяц назад
This comment kept me watching the video lol
@talkingmudcrab718
@talkingmudcrab718 Месяц назад
It is the day of chaos!
@ricklubbers1526
@ricklubbers1526 Месяц назад
Bringing a +10 serpent hunter into the Messmer fight just to see if it works.
@Jokersxwolf
@Jokersxwolf Месяц назад
I see we think alike 😅
@Kn1ghtborne
@Kn1ghtborne Месяц назад
At least that would give the weapon a reason to activate again which would be sweet
@alcoyot
@alcoyot Месяц назад
It’s already April. We are getting there. Man in June my life is gonna be so focused. That feeling of a new fromsoft. Nothing like it.
@eligreg99
@eligreg99 Месяц назад
I can’t wait bro. Already getting a new character ready. I’ll probably keep this one around 150-175 and tweak my other two level 200 characters to play on afterwards.
@KexDeathStarz
@KexDeathStarz 28 дней назад
The confusion is addicting lol
@RickThePick
@RickThePick Месяц назад
4:40 the symbol looks a lot like Siluria’s tree. The description of Siluria’s tree reads: “the primordial form of the erdtree is close in nature to life itself, and this spear, modeled on its crucible, is imbued with holy essence”. This makes me think that the takers cameo talisman represents the 2 headed snake “devouring” the crucible, or in other words, messmer setting the great tree ablaze in a distant past.
@chesuriel1138
@chesuriel1138 Месяц назад
Literally was about to comment this, every time I saw this symbol i thought the two look pretty similar
@captainxit5573
@captainxit5573 Месяц назад
Exactly!!! That Was My Same Take Away From That Symbol. The Fact That Rykard Has Givin' Himself To This Form Of Blasphemy Makes That Connection Clearer To Me Now.
@okname5335
@okname5335 Месяц назад
why would you draw snek for fire imstead of fire for fire. in the church of eilglay u can find serpents aminion, which is evidence of a snake birthing ritual, and the crucible also birthed people like the crucible knights and godfrey. the snake people just wanted to be in charge but the tree people also wanted to be in charge and obviously won the war for the lands between. the snake people were the ones on the losing side of the war mentioned in the dlc trailer, and this is why we see the cruicible symbol on the shield that has cruicible wings and this is why it is being used against messemer because it is a weapon left over from his enemies before he killed them, picked up by the player. the snake wants to eat tree so that tree is gone so snek can be incharge and snake only has one attack and its bitey so they draw bitey.
@HalcyonEX
@HalcyonEX Месяц назад
It's so amazing that even now 2 years later we are still finding new stuff in elden ring wow
@CoffeeBrainzz
@CoffeeBrainzz Месяц назад
It’s crazy how the smallest bit of Context Detail can change the perspective of SO MANY story elements!
@metalsludge8205
@metalsludge8205 Месяц назад
it's so amazing that even now less than 2 months later we are still finding new video fodder in a teaser trailer wow
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 Месяц назад
Elden Ring greatest game in history
@johanneswolfken8658
@johanneswolfken8658 Месяц назад
You should watch xLetalis for Witcher 3 content. Man did Videos about story content for over 7 years.
@lindenpaine5371
@lindenpaine5371 Месяц назад
The cloak and drapes is a sick find.
@MinksAwakening
@MinksAwakening Месяц назад
New boss for the DLC confirmed: Godskin Trio
@brandoncochran5318
@brandoncochran5318 Месяц назад
Only Soldier of God, Rick could stand a chance
@games-wz7sz
@games-wz7sz Месяц назад
It's called godskin trio, but phase 2 brings in the gloam eyed queen as well
@SkeletonModel91
@SkeletonModel91 Месяц назад
Miquella, God of Abundance, and Malenia, Goddess of Rot
@helenhu8128
@helenhu8128 Месяц назад
Hell no
@zacharythompson9791
@zacharythompson9791 Месяц назад
Godskin Quartet.
@romanmerki4898
@romanmerki4898 Месяц назад
maybe the volcano manor was messmers palace before he got bannished
@Espressodepressoh
@Espressodepressoh Месяц назад
That’s what I’ve been theorising. I think Rykard came across the serpent there underneath the manor.
@bROCKobama82
@bROCKobama82 Месяц назад
Or he could’ve started the religion
@romanmerki4898
@romanmerki4898 Месяц назад
yeah or he is the serpent good himself
@MikeTheD
@MikeTheD Месяц назад
Interesting. He would have some big lair like the rest right? Unless some plot device had them raze it, which could be possible. Not the usual deal, because they used preexisting useful structures usually. But maybe a plot device where the powers that be Marika etc wanted all memory erased. Still, technically that should be addressed in some way along your theorys lines
@sonof1627
@sonof1627 Месяц назад
Using the Magmoor Caverns theme from MP to talk about the Volcano Manor is actually quite nice.
@GenDrake3
@GenDrake3 Месяц назад
I thought this was obvious when the narrator said BLASPHEMOUS FLAME
@okname5335
@okname5335 Месяц назад
it is, but it doesnt feel very smart to pay attention to major obvious details that spell it out completly, we have to ignore those
@sintaribat9350
@sintaribat9350 Месяц назад
I just wanna see Ranni fight Allmind😂
@BudravenOG
@BudravenOG Месяц назад
Malenia Vs. Cel 240 would be a pretty tight match
@foey7560
@foey7560 Месяц назад
The right part of Taker's Cameo, looks like Siluria's Tree, which was modeled on its crucible. And crucible was the primordial form of the Erdtree. So it would match the meaning of devouring god, or snake betraying the Erdtree
@danielcallahan2981
@danielcallahan2981 Месяц назад
Never put together that the Temple of Eiglay literally sounds like "Egg Lay" and the serpent's amnion is found there. Messmer snakes are probably decendants like Zorias.
@TheSUGA1202
@TheSUGA1202 Месяц назад
I had the theory that the blasphemous snake was a shadow for the previous god before Marika, the snake being tied to the Land of Shadow and the Shadow of the Erdtree would make sense following that theory.
@coleconway7340
@coleconway7340 Месяц назад
that's actually a really good theory but i feel like the snake would be the figure head for the god as opposed to someones shadow. seeing as how the snake is immortal like marika and placidusax who both are the lords for their gods.
@TheSUGA1202
@TheSUGA1202 Месяц назад
@@coleconway7340 When we try to kill Blaidd he tells us that a shadow cannot be killed and the blasphemous snake is immortal, Malikaeth has a voracious apetite for deathroot(deathroot is basically godwyn's tumors, ergo his demigod flesh and the serpent wishes to devour the gods and has an apetite for it.) .There is more stuff that if you think about it fits quite well but I tend to have a wild imagination so idk maybe im conecting stuff.
@FireFox64000000
@FireFox64000000 Месяц назад
I think you could probably throw a dart at a map of the lands between and find a place that has some kind of deep significance for the DLC. Fromsoft likes their deep lore that much. And just as an example of this I would like to point out that the symbol of the takers Cameo looks like the cross guard of Saint Trina's sword. Specifically the lower half.
@TGWhitta
@TGWhitta Месяц назад
Now this is a video that I can actually get behind. It's not some overly long essay filled with people re-reading the same item descriptions 10 times. You straight up just say what you need to say. Thank you dude. Breath of fresh air when it comes to content like this. On top of that you don't piece together garbage that isn't related as if it were fact. Respect! Great vid.
@mistakai4226
@mistakai4226 Месяц назад
The curse of the Elden ring lore video. Every theory has three hundred presuppositions which are only possible through a myriad of tenuous tidbits. The curse of the tenth Elden ring lore video is that the tenuous presuppositions are no longer even sourced from the game, rather they come from the previous 9 lore videos.
@alanthe2
@alanthe2 Месяц назад
The Godskin link is interesting. A Godskin Noble also guards the bridge to the Liurnia Divine Tower which is where Ranni’s body is found. Ranni rewarded Rykard with the Blasphemous Claw should he need to fight Maliketh. It makes me wonder how many demigods were conspiring in or knew of the plot to kill Godwyn and/or bring down the Erdtree.
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 Месяц назад
The community’s eyes are finally opening. We’re looking beyond just Item Descriptions, and looking to actual environmental storytelling instead. So many months of item-descriptions lore videos. no longer😭
@alanthe2
@alanthe2 Месяц назад
@@Darkheart00 well, I guess to further extrapolate on the point and thinking of environmental storytelling, perhaps Godrick knew of the plot, or perhaps he had a part in it before he fled the capital and perhaps that’s why Godwyn’s face is beneath Stormveil because he knows of Godrick’s betrayal. Just pure speculation obviously but a reasonable interpretation based on what’s available in game to discover.
@Nube_Negrah
@Nube_Negrah Месяц назад
​@@alanthe2him and Godefroy were probably apart of it. The god skin prayer book is inside Stormveil
@anastasiavolokhova8129
@anastasiavolokhova8129 Месяц назад
What if the skin is actually the shaded skin. Snakes do shade, and if it some sort of mini clones army of shaded skin.
@JimVekemans
@JimVekemans Месяц назад
I've also noticed on the virgin abductor frames you see the snakes that wrap around are actually connected on the back of the frame, making a possible reference to the this two-headed snake
@andrewpritchett2324
@andrewpritchett2324 Месяц назад
Also depicts a woman with a baby which seems like a prominent theme in the dlc. There's definitely a connection there.
@ivanmihaylov6676
@ivanmihaylov6676 Месяц назад
The symbol is an artistic representation of the elden ring, no? The talisman depicts the serpent devouring the elden ring
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 Месяц назад
The connection you made, between the Taker’s Cameo and The Duelling shied of the Shadow Lands, is incredibly awesome. But what really caught me off guard was the connection you made at 2:56. Coupled with the fact that the Temple of Eiglay is just FILLED with intriguing environmental storytelling (Solomonic columns, winged serpents, Godskin Noble, etc.), I really like your theory. Rykard is my favourite character in the game, and Volcano Manor and Mt. Gelmir is my favourite level. So this just makes me very happy
@someoneinsomewhere8079
@someoneinsomewhere8079 Месяц назад
Remember that when Ranni leaves after you put the ring on her you can find Blaidd outside of her Rise with the corpse of some Black Knife Assassins beside him. And after you kill him, you tell Iji about it and after reloading Iji's spot he's also dead surrounded by BKA's and, most interestingly, burning in black flame. On the other hand, they're called "Godskin" but most people instantly assume they take the skin of gods they have slayed before, when it easily could be that they make their robes out of the skin shed by a Snake. The Godskin noble's robe is 'known' for their seven faced aprons, just like the candletree shield. We know the Lands Between have been through a lot of different ages throughout their history and they're apparently signified by the presence of the crucible, considering how the crucible was the "transition" between the dragonlord age and the erdtree age. So it's not crazy to think that this has been a constant cycle of decay and rebirth similar to the fire in Dark souls. In this regard I think that the burning of the Erdtree is the beginning of the end for all ages. And Messmer was most likely the one tasked with doing it, or perhaps the one who realized that the Golden Order stagnation would bring terrible consequences, and thus decided to burn the Erdtree down, forever cementing the snakes and fire as cardinal sins. The golden order absolutely did NOT want their age to end.
@melkerbotin7098
@melkerbotin7098 Месяц назад
My theory is that Volcano Manor was in the far past actually Mesmers manor, explaining all the similarities, but was then given to Rhykard, probably some times after Mesmer was banished.
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 Месяц назад
I actually think that there’s a chance that the Manor itself was built after Messmer’s exile from Mt. Gelmir. The manor itself gives off the vibe of being a much more Modern establishment, than even some of the other buildings in the game, let alone Mt.Gelmir. Rykard likely decorated the Manor with the remnants of the past history of Gelmir- explaining some old designs like the Solomonic columns, or the winged serpents
@melkerbotin7098
@melkerbotin7098 Месяц назад
totally makes sense too! :)@@Darkheart00
@nightscout9979
@nightscout9979 Месяц назад
I'm glad a video creator finally picked up on the Gelmir symbol on the Dueling Shield! I noticed that when the trailer released, but nobody ever seemed to mention it in their trailer analyses. The connection between the Eiglay drapes and Messmer's tunic is interesting, and Messmer's eyes also match the God-Devouring Serpent's eyes, so that's probably worth looking at for an update video. Curiously, a snake is on the Twinned Set's cape, so that would be worth investigating as well, especially since the D twins are Golden Order Fundamentalists and thus one would think they'd hate snakes. As for Ghiza's armor, he's actually just wearing the Official's Attire, not something specifically tied to House Marais. Still, this is a nice video.
@stevenboddy4232
@stevenboddy4232 Месяц назад
You gotta choose one to spend the night with Diddy Messmer
@michaeloshea1891
@michaeloshea1891 Месяц назад
I think that the Gloam eyed queen may have more connection to Marika than we thought. It may be a stretch but the gloam eyed queen may be the woman in the painting. And considering that we have the theory that the woman is Marika’s mother it may be that Messmer has the recessive genes of the GEQ considering his similarities to the godskins.
@c-bent5921
@c-bent5921 Месяц назад
Great theories man, love the connective tissues
@collinmichaelkahn3918
@collinmichaelkahn3918 Месяц назад
Great friggin’ job per always Zio. You don’t miss one iota of possible story detail or clues, however cryptic or sewn into the lore they may be. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to more of these theories in the next ten weeks. Cheers studly!
@walkervotis6834
@walkervotis6834 Месяц назад
There’s definitely some connection here but we just don’t have the information
@pustuleofyelough
@pustuleofyelough Месяц назад
Awesome video bro as always
@TJuice1986
@TJuice1986 Месяц назад
Loving these videos! Best channel around when it comes to Elden Ring!!
@gandalf2313
@gandalf2313 Месяц назад
Another cool thing about Volcano Manor is the trees outside the Church of Eiglay seem to have vines coiled around them, and the afflicted trees have cracks with gold inside. Kinda like mini versions of the great tree we see in the trailer.
@asianwhiteguy3472
@asianwhiteguy3472 Месяц назад
Nice work dude. Keep it up. A true sleuth 🕵️‍♂️ 👍
@jtillman8251
@jtillman8251 Месяц назад
Maybe Mesmer was the Gloam-Eyed Queens consort/lord
@romanmerki4898
@romanmerki4898 Месяц назад
i think plasidusex was the consort/lord of the gloam eyed queen
@GrimmWitchands
@GrimmWitchands Месяц назад
4:40 This symbol is quite similar to the symbol that Gelmir's knights wore on their crest and cape; The symbol is Rykard's, but I don't know what it represents as such; My first theory is that it was a stylized depiction of the Elden Ring.
@nightscout9979
@nightscout9979 Месяц назад
The symbol on the Taker's Cameo indeed has a strong resemblance to the cape and breast plate designs for the Gelmir Knight Set. Perhaps the Dueling Shield in the DLC Trailer relates to Rykard's forces trying to learn of and enter the Land of Shadow, or Gelmir's military appropriated imagery that once belonged to Messmer or saw some use in the Land of Shadow.
@highbrednxtus
@highbrednxtus Месяц назад
just occured to me that similar to how we press the R3 to switch between the maps, we'll probably get a third "layer" for The Land of Shadow. Maybe where we fight Messmer will line up with where Mt. Gelmir exists in the over world. EDIT: just remmeber a comment i had left on an old video somewhere around when the game came out. The Snakemen and Godskin apostles have similar move sets, I wondered if this was just a reused animation asset but maybe its more 🤷‍♂️ The Land of Shadow is disconnected, but knowing From Soft, I feel like the locations will have some lore importance and links to nearby areas on the other maps.
@walruss106
@walruss106 Месяц назад
My guess is that Marika's actions in the Land of Shadow are a result of the conflict with the Gloam-Eyed Queen. The announcement included a line about a land being purged in an unsung battle, set alight by Messmer's flame. Messmer is the Lord to the GEQ, the same way that Godfrey was Lord to Marika. Symbolically, this makes a lot of sense. The GEQ is the Marika foe most associated with serpents. You're 100% on point about the similarities between Messmer and the godskin apostles. It's also the conflict that led to Marika creating the Golden Order and radically changing how the world works. Finally, it's a carefully hidden part of the history of the Lands Between. But if I'm right, this makes an absolute mess of the timeline. Messmer appears to be a child of Radagon and Marika, but the Golden Order didn't even exist before the godskin apostasy. And also the flavor text makes it clear that the Land of Shadow is Marika's origin story, she was there *before* she was in the Lands Between. But many of the godskin servants are fire monks, an order that only came into existence after the conquest of the Lands Between. I'm curious to see how it plays out in June. Myths, especially the Norse myths that serve as a major inspiration for the Elden Ring lore, can play a bit fast and loose with time and causality. And of course, Miyazaki himself said that once The Lands Between and The Land of Shadow were one...
@mistakai4226
@mistakai4226 Месяц назад
I think there is an erroneous conflation of the Golden order and the age of abundance. The golden order didn't come into being until after the rune of death was removed from the Elden ring. It was the result of restructuring the ring to make up for the deficit of death.
@walruss106
@walruss106 Месяц назад
@@mistakai4226 Agreed, which is why the timeline issues bother me. GEQ war has to have happened after Marika's conquest (because fire monks, who didn't exist before the conquest, defected) and before Radagon married Marika (because Radagon became a champion of the Golden Order at some point prior to their marriage and the golden order couldn't exist until after the Rune of Death was removed). So assuming Messmer's bright red hair means he has to be a Radagon baby, and assuming Marika and Radagon had their kids after they were married, Messmer's too young to have been alive for the GEQ conflict. Assuming that Marika started her rule in the Land of Shadow and later came to the Lands Between, the GEQ conflict happened too late to have occurred in the Land of Shadow. I'm comfortable ignoring all of that because the thematic ties to GEQ are so strong here, but if I'm right it means there's something important we either don't know or are flat wrong about. Or, perish the thought, this is just a bad theory and I'm wrong.
@phantasmx_
@phantasmx_ Месяц назад
It surprises me nobody has talked about the Serpent’s Amnion, which is obtained after the battle with the Godskin Noble, which states that it’s an Amnion from a womb that wore an unintended offspring. If that doesn’t scream Messmer being the unwanted kid of Marika, and that they performed a ritual in the Lands of Shadows related to her godhood, idk what does.
@Practicallypreposterous
@Practicallypreposterous Месяц назад
...are you implying Marika and the Serpent smashed?
@breadwatcher3908
@breadwatcher3908 Месяц назад
@@Practicallypreposterousnah the Rya questline and Daedicar’s woe item description clarifies things there
@phantasmx_
@phantasmx_ Месяц назад
@@Practicallypreposterous not necessarily, but whatever happened could’ve been the outcome of why Messmer is so affiliated w with snakes, maybe Marika betrayed him which is why he sided with what betrayed her beliefs, serpents!
@phantasmx_
@phantasmx_ Месяц назад
@@breadwatcher3908 what does it clarify exactly? 👁️
@breadwatcher3908
@breadwatcher3908 Месяц назад
@@phantasmx_ at the end of rya’s quest she drops the daedicar’s woe talisman which states “Disturbing likeness of a woman whose skin was flayed. She smiles with a serene tenderness. It is said that this woman, named Daedicar, indulged in every form of adultery and wicked pleasure imaginable, giving birth to a myriad of grotesque children.” It just seems to me that marika is irrelevant in all this. But on second thought, you could totally say marika did indulge in adultery and gave birth to a myriad of grotesque children… Edit: the game just makes it clear that marika is not involved with the whole serpent and cross breed reproduction stuff
@gabunne2295
@gabunne2295 Месяц назад
When talking about the Volcano Manor, there was no better choice than the Magmoor Caverns theme. Interesting finds as well, especially with Taker's Cameo - with how small the icons are I never thought to look for big details in them.
@Jay_Z33
@Jay_Z33 Месяц назад
also check Ringed Finger description - not only it is similar to Rykard's fingers as seen when he pulls the sword of his mouth in his second phase cutscene, but also refers to "ancient blasphemy" + it's found in Gelmir Hero's grave....
@olliespiels
@olliespiels Месяц назад
everything makes more sense if melina is merika's sister, and also the gloam eyed queen ... their names are even more similar in japanese (me-ri-na and me-ri-ka) this then leads to mesmer being the banished son of merika and linked to the smoldering butterfly ... bringing everything full circle assuming that he was banished for burning the erdtree
@MangoMan77
@MangoMan77 Месяц назад
Well, if you speculate about everything... ur bound to be right about something. I'd say you got ur bases covered 😂
@vai07777777
@vai07777777 Месяц назад
Second Phase of Messmer: Godskin Duo is summoned to fight alongside him...
@okname5335
@okname5335 Месяц назад
messmer = godskin lord
@bladej7688
@bladej7688 Месяц назад
1st place I went after DLC announcement was the volcano manor. The only thing I noticed were the portraits depicting the erd tree bruning. There is probably more as you have pointed out.
@nightscout9979
@nightscout9979 Месяц назад
We know that Bernahl's Finger Maiden burned herself at the Forge of the Fire Giants, so those paintings in Volcano Manor could have been made around that time instead of depicting a much older event.
@queertitan
@queertitan Месяц назад
7:46 on one of my past playthroughs, I was fighting the Godskin Noble that guarded Ranni’s divine tower. It was raining and I noticed their skin looks a lot like Morgot’s blade.
@Jarmister
@Jarmister Месяц назад
The shape that mesmer serpents coil around him looks for me similar to border around talisman. Maybe thats how his great rune looks like
@elsoul7204
@elsoul7204 Месяц назад
I prefer to be on standby until the dlc, to make any assumptions. Great work! I kinda think the sigil on taker's cameo/shield looks like the siluria spear. But another thing i find intriguing : at 6:07, eight behind the npc with a pot, there is a spiraling tower. Funny to see this right after you showed the Manor's interior with snakes coiling around columns
@EldenLord.
@EldenLord. Месяц назад
When the God-Skins have links to Messmer, it would also link the Gloam-Eyed Queen to Messmer and since the Gloam-Eyed Queen is/was almost certainly Melina, it would make perfect sense. Both are basically non existant in the history of Elden Ring by name. Melina is never mentioned (only as the Gloam-Eyed Queen) and the same thing with Messmer. Marika veiled both of their existances because they commited a cardinal sin. Its also stated that Maliketh defeated the Gloam-Eyed Queen (Melina). It makes it quite obvious what "burned and bodyless" means. The Rune of Death burned her physical body so she only exists in spirit.
@Zzzooooppp
@Zzzooooppp Месяц назад
We also see one Fire Monk who wears white clothes after defecting to the GEQ. I think it might be possible that the GEQ sort of stole followers/usurped Messmer. The Godskins all seem to be taking great effort in hiding their bodies, maybe to hide their link to their former master. Maybe like Rykard, GEQ served Marika before turning on her.
@eujuneca
@eujuneca Месяц назад
I believe that the Gloam-Eyed Queen could be Placidusax's god who fled after being defeated by Marika. It is said that Maliketh killed some demigods in support of Marika, but these demigods are never named. They could be the children of the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Moreover, Melina tells us about Marika's actions and words, but if she is the Gloam-Eyed Queen, how does she know all of that? Considering that Gloam-Eyed Queen is a direct enemy of Marika, it seems unlikely that she would have this knowledge. From my point of view, there is little evidence to support Melina's claim and more evidence in favor of Placidusax's god
@games-wz7sz
@games-wz7sz Месяц назад
​@@eujunecaI assume melina is the gloam eyed queen, but is also a child of marika. This would explain why she knows so much about the order, but is more than happy to destroy it
@eujuneca
@eujuneca Месяц назад
@@games-wz7sz but the thing is, Marika wants us to destroy the current order. Melina is working with her, not against. We fight Radagon, who tried to mend the Elden Ring. We don't fight her, who effectively broke it. Marika's plan for the tarnished and the lands between are far more obscure than we trink. At least, that's how I interpreted the events based on concrete lore and theory from many channels that I've watched and combined in my head in a way that makes sense to me
@games-wz7sz
@games-wz7sz Месяц назад
@@eujuneca yes, because she still lives. She wants for death and doesn't know why she yet lives. She learns from her mother that she wants to destroy the order and is more than happy to oblige because her goal was that as well. The gloam eyed queen would be against the order and erdtree. It always seemed so personal to me that she wanted to burn the tree. It's like to her it's a victory
@Dante_Tim
@Dante_Tim Месяц назад
I especially liked this video because it gives a new look at already known things in the game. If you look for common things between the Apostles and snakes, this is that the Snake sheds its skin and was believed to rejuvenate, which in many religions is considered immortal.
@tegirvaru
@tegirvaru Месяц назад
on taker's cameo(and painting behind lady tanith), rykards crown has the same fan(palm leaf) shape as the DLC throne lady's hat/crown has as well.
@dynamicflashy
@dynamicflashy Месяц назад
I recently went through Volcano Manor on my latest playthrough and I made similar observations.
@Friendly-Automaton
@Friendly-Automaton Месяц назад
I believe eochaid is in the shadow of the erdtree dlc she hid it making it vanish
@rustydustygaming1327
@rustydustygaming1327 Месяц назад
the throne in the audience chamber in volcano manor looks like the one that messmer sits on in the DLC
@UnoUno77
@UnoUno77 Месяц назад
Can’t Wait to see the new bosses second phases and cutscenes
@jackburton4426
@jackburton4426 Месяц назад
I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet but played through again, and noticed something about Marika/Radagon cutscene. she is in fact very IMPALED by a red spike.
@LordMehu
@LordMehu Месяц назад
I did not see anyone entertain this idea that I have a long time for now and since it fits into the topic of this video I would like to share it. Tanith’s quest always felt unfinished for me, since the only ending for it is killing her for like no reason (other then get to fight her knight obv, but no narative reason) and there is the whole Rykard/Eiglay being immortal thing wich could be just Taniths delusion, but it might worth to have a dlc ready save where Tanith is still alive, I think there is a good chance that it would get expended, wouldnt be the first quest in the game getting this treatment.
@auntdee845
@auntdee845 Месяц назад
I feel there's a connection between either Zoraya or Melina to Messmer. That either Zoraya or Melina is also Messmer and/or the gloam eyed queen is their mother. My best guess is Melina and Messmer are the same person and the gloam eyed queen is their mother.
@WhosThere91
@WhosThere91 Месяц назад
THIS WAS VERY SOLID !
@EngravedRyzo
@EngravedRyzo Месяц назад
5:54 there are snakes with wings just like Mesmer
@nilspochat8665
@nilspochat8665 Месяц назад
aaaaaw so cute! little Messmer asked his big brother Rykard for a cape and he gave him draperies from his chapel! 😚
@Golykastyle
@Golykastyle Месяц назад
Volcano manor was maybe the manor of Messmer before Marika put him in the shadow lands. She probably didn't care that the god serpent influenced Messmer until it was too problematic for her order. She let her own son getting manipulated by a serpent to help her fight the giants and others, but the moment the tree was burned, she understands her mistake and banned him.
@exquisitedoomlapointe185
@exquisitedoomlapointe185 Месяц назад
Haha, just found those out this weekend on my own and was wondering why nobody noticed these, as for the flying serpent statue, it's probably eiglay which i suspect was the GEQ's god that fled. Mesmer probably wrapped himself up in that iconolography much later , i'd suspect after defeating the fire giants
@thehorror6662
@thehorror6662 Месяц назад
I wonder if there'll be more background on the shadow bound beasts? Shadow land... seems possible
@kacecrimson8297
@kacecrimson8297 Месяц назад
1:00 whats the theme that plays around here I went looking through metroid prime ost playlist but I swear I missed it xd
@Ziostorm
@Ziostorm Месяц назад
Torvus Bog, Metroid Prime 2
@kacecrimson8297
@kacecrimson8297 Месяц назад
@@Ziostorm thousand blessings to you and your loved ones
@FoxBatinaHat
@FoxBatinaHat 27 дней назад
Theory: The impaler- got his name from the War against the Giants. Bet you anything he caused many of those roots to impale the giants originally.
@bhz8499
@bhz8499 21 день назад
So the crest on Rykards seal and that shield seem a lot like the double helix that Miquella uses for his crest to MESMERize people into following him
@rustyrolla5432
@rustyrolla5432 Месяц назад
It would be cool if there was more development of volcano manor in the DLC just for the fact it didn't seem super fleshed out in the base game. You kill three NPCs from taniths quest and then kill rykard. It would be cool if there was an ending where you become lord of blasphemy
@thatfunkadeus
@thatfunkadeus 7 дней назад
Messmer eye, melina eye, fire, blasphemy, house marais, snake, godskins, destined death, gloam eyed queen, there's something here
@Chinchillineveryday
@Chinchillineveryday Месяц назад
If you look at the hat in the cuckoo sanctum(DLC preview)where that lady is who is in the “Carian Inverted Statue” her hat has the Godskin’s symbol on it. Scouring Blackflame item is an item description worth looking at too
@jaylynwyatt8429
@jaylynwyatt8429 Месяц назад
Do you guys remember what Rykard said after you kill him?! He said he’d be back!! Sounds like he’ll return within the dlc 😳
@kiltysalter2966
@kiltysalter2966 Месяц назад
You could be onto something with House Marais. They do reside in ‘The Shaded Castle’ after all.
@wolfiemuse
@wolfiemuse Месяц назад
Whoever caught those two symbols being the same - that is a really sharp, good eye. I have had feelings about Messmer and his connections to blasphemy, perhaps an “original sin”, for quite some time and I’m thinking it’s got to be a story point in the DLC. I don’t particularly see the same connection to the Godskins as everyone else does, but I’m open to them being part of the picture too. Miyazaki describes Messmer as a hero in one of the interviews; I wonder if Messmer is the “hero” who defeated the Gloam Eyed Queen. Either that, or it’s going to be completely unrelated to anything we’ve speculated and involve new characters entirely and we will be hopelessly wrong. 😅 there’s always that possibility
@cornthdl
@cornthdl Месяц назад
I’m surprised you didn’t look at the symbols on Taneth’s robes, based on your title pic. The circular symbol looks like the circular symbol in Messmer’s seal.
@jemory5543
@jemory5543 Месяц назад
Crest on Rennallas crown has 2 intertwining snakes on the front and the red gems on the top sorta look like snake eyes
@Lampaluile
@Lampaluile Месяц назад
Ty for vid! So much content yet to be talked about, that is just under the radar Edit: Wow for so long I tried figuring out what the crest on the shield twinblade represented. You are right it 100% is the same crest
@richmaggi6340
@richmaggi6340 Месяц назад
There is a symbol at the tip of executioner’s sword that looks a lot like the tree symbol in the trailer that the guy is pulling out of his body…just noticed this today.
@Noirwhisperwind
@Noirwhisperwind 25 дней назад
godskin is pretty straight forward, they are hunting the serpent god
@ShadowOfLaw
@ShadowOfLaw Месяц назад
Would be great for the connected souldsborne world video for April 1.
@aldosalas2722
@aldosalas2722 Месяц назад
just a note, the wings on the snakes of Mercer are of like a bat and the wings on the snakes are more like an eagle. is that they mature and change or different all together?
@locustpreacher2102
@locustpreacher2102 Месяц назад
Maybe I am misremembering but isn't the symbol on the right of the Taker's Cameo also found on the breastplate or cape of the Gelmir Knight chest piece? Also the connection of the symbol being on the DLC duelling shield is interesting. I wonder if we'll find Crucible Knights using different weapons in the DLC
@enviosinterdimencionales8612
@enviosinterdimencionales8612 Месяц назад
bro. my theory is that miquela´s hand will be the access to the SECOND DLC.
@jipowap
@jipowap Месяц назад
Mesmer does not represent the pinnacle of the Elden Ring, as everyone was vying to become. He represents the WHOLE thing. Every aspect in equal measure.
@thecuza9716
@thecuza9716 Месяц назад
Can't remember where I saw this, but apparently there's cut enemy data in the game files for Gelmir Knights. They were supposed to use the Distinguished Greatshield, and the symbol on the Distinguished Greatshield looks like the head of Messmer's spear.
@Ziostorm
@Ziostorm Месяц назад
They have some cut armor and a cookbook, but the symbols on them are weird. Does have a snake though
@nightscout9979
@nightscout9979 Месяц назад
@@Ziostorm Do you mean an armor set separate from the Gelmir Knight armor that's found in the final game?
@shaunflinn1002
@shaunflinn1002 Месяц назад
"Chasing ghosts" isn't that what these games are all about? 🤔 haha Love the speculations and ideas! Can't wait for the DLC
@5N3K93
@5N3K93 Месяц назад
When Miyazaki said the main game wasn’t going to be connected to the dlc (forgot exactly how he stated it) I was bummed that none of the quests with open ends were going to have a closing to their story (Tannith, Jerren, others I can’t remember). Seeing this thumbnail gives me hope. E: And after watching I hope we get some more clarification on the GEQ. I’m so ready for this DLC I’m going to lose my f’ing mind if they push it back.
@BlueAsterismSolstice
@BlueAsterismSolstice Месяц назад
It just dawned on me. The Godskin Apostle stretches like the serpent men. The Manor could have first belonged to the GEQ. She could have turned Messmer over to her side.
@StrawHatZethy
@StrawHatZethy Месяц назад
So maybe the Serpent was the original god of the lands between before Marika and the Erdtree came from the land of shadow
@argonaught
@argonaught 2 дня назад
You know what i just realized? The arm hanging out of the egg in Mohgs boss room looks similar to Messmirs lanky body. And snakes lay eggs to which the arm is hanging out of... Do you think there's something there?
@daniig3059
@daniig3059 Месяц назад
Now I'm wondering if the Land of Shadow is the realm of the Gloam Eyed Queen. If she's got anything to do with the snakes, etc.
@codyjames4814
@codyjames4814 Месяц назад
Golem eyed queen could be a relation to him.
@AmortizeThis
@AmortizeThis Месяц назад
Personally, I think the Godskin Noble in Volcano Manor is there in search of the Serpent God. As servants of the Gloam Eyed Queen, they searched out gods and killed them. He's there looking for the Serpent God, in order to kill him. Tanith (by the way Tanith is named after Tanith Lee, one of George RR Martin's favorite authors, and the lore about Rya/Zorayas being unsure of her heritage, and that her father/mother is actually some sort of monster/tyrant that she had no control over, ties in to Tanith Lee's Flat Earth series) definitely seems to be from the Land of Shadow, which is why ske has a crucible knight guarding her, since the Land of Shadow is the last remaining bastion of the Crucible Age. If the lore remains consistent, then Messmer is the child of Radagon, which raises the question, who is the mother? It could be Marika, but all the children of Radagon and Marika are cursed in some way or another.
@sk8legendz
@sk8legendz Месяц назад
1:55 the winged snake statues actually seem to be a part of an architectural pattern of such statues the Hawks in Stormveil, The Winged Bats in Academy of Raya Lucaria, and the winded Serpents of Mt Gelmir I don't think there's anything to be implied or taken from that, just found it interesting personally
@christiandannielmacieldeli8517
@christiandannielmacieldeli8517 Месяц назад
Are you seriously comparing two creatures known for naturally having wings to a winged snake? What does "winged bat" even mean? Besides, I don't recall EVER seeing bat statues in Raya Lucaria. Many people point out the caged birds all over the place, but bats? We are yet to understand where the singing bats came from
@sk8legendz
@sk8legendz Месяц назад
@christiandannielmacieldeli8517 statues are there you can go confirm it yourself The bat lady's are more like bat winged humans. I just was pointing out it could just be a generic but environmentally relevant statue similar to the ones in stormveil and the academy
@nightscout9979
@nightscout9979 Месяц назад
@@christiandannielmacieldeli8517 Raya Lucaria has several gargoyle statues, so that might be what Sk8legendz is referring to.
@manekohashpirald9918
@manekohashpirald9918 Месяц назад
Still think that Tanit's questline with castanets have secret true ending, which have really hard triggering
@AnInklingSR
@AnInklingSR 14 дней назад
There are some similarities between the Drake Knight set (worn by Eleanora, Violet Bloody Finger) and the armor worn by Messmer. She has also taken part in Dragon Communion, as you noted Messmer may have by the look of his eyes. I'm wondering if Eleanora's role as a violet bloody finger could mean that 1. Messmer is in fact the alter ego of Miquella 2. Eleanora became a bloody finger, siding with Mogue, after Miquella's cocoon was taken from the Haligtree This is all obviously VERY loose speculation, but just some things I've found interesting
@alexandresoares2657
@alexandresoares2657 Месяц назад
Toda vez que vejo mesmer, me vem o album do iron maiden "Seventh son of the Seventh son"
@Extremeties
@Extremeties Месяц назад
Can't.....wait....for.....DLC....
@TheTarnished1250
@TheTarnished1250 Месяц назад
It says “long ago , when Rykard first set eyes on Tanith, she was working as a dancer in a foreign land.” [consort’s robe description] So Rykard went to this “foreign land” perhaps talking about where the DLC will be taking place ? Maybe meeting Messmer in the past influencing him to become lord of blasphemy ? Also i think Tanith will somehow come back in play for the DLC, not sure what but she def wasn’t eating rykards remains for no reason lol. I hope we get more lore on the land of Eochaid as well.
@laary7589
@laary7589 Месяц назад
MAGMOOR CAVERNS MEAN THE LORE VIDEO SERIES
@epiccthulu
@epiccthulu Месяц назад
I really think Mesmer is the son of the Gloam Eyed queen and that it’s actually Miquella’s dialogue we are hearing
@brandonsalisbury7182
@brandonsalisbury7182 Месяц назад
I happen to be a huge fan of fromsoft have been since around 2018 when I first played BB then played the rest! Even if I wasn’t though I’d still respect them because they created pretty much their own genre & continuously expand upon it with every release! I can’t wait for the expansion it’ll most likely end up being the greatest story expansion ever created honestly!
@echofiend3722
@echofiend3722 Месяц назад
Aw man! I just had an Idea. What if. Messmer has a twin, and it's the snake, and they're conjoined ! ! !
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