Elden Ring's Secret Purgatory | Helphen LORE 

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I think I have a clue where Radagon came from and who his mother could be. I think Radagon was definitely a seperate being born from the last fire giant, and I also believe his mother was Daedicar. As far as his joining with Marika, I think Radagon and Marika were grafted together by the Elden Beast after the shattering. As far as the miquella and Malenia's conditions, I believe that was due to Radagon being half fire giant and his mother being Daedicar, a woman who had chimera like children and possibly being the progenitor of leonine misbegotten, who are connected to Radagon by blood somehow. I think Daedicar played a much more important role in elden ring than anyone realized.

Zio blink if you're in danger

You're dead wrong at 3:40 talking about the history of the Elden Ring. Why did you say the Golden Order was made *after* the Elden Ring shattered?

2:50 idk if you already noticed but just to say if you didnt the sign hanging there was the elden ring you could see the small rune ark above it if your looking and the 2 reverse rune arks going into it showing its the upper circle from them with some bits of it being there under it too

Ots so hard mate I already have a dark sign 😞

I’m trying bro, I really am. And I legit don’t want to play any other game.

AAUUURRGH!!! RAAAAAGGHH!!!! Translation - Beef Jerky to English: Too late! Gimme your souls!

Can’t go hollow if you’re hollow already

Aauggh ruahhggh arghhh

I like that idea

Imagine elden ring but the grace is red.

“Aquatic nature of death” is such a cool concept in general imo. Reminds me of orphan of Kos, or some say Kosm

How is death aquatic at all in elden ring?

@@eprimchad2576 Those warped by deathroot take on the features of waterborne animals. Godwyn has morphed into a starnge fishy appearance. i think this is what they are referring to. Also, Tibia Mariners etc

And the tallest conifers are called “Redwoods” so you’re definitely on the right track 👁

hey, there's a couple areas in game that look like they got smacked by metorites or comets. Maby the Helphen got hit by what ever else took out all those spirit trees. It looks like the place was a forest before something cold exploded the area. I think the astrologers might have witnessed a comet hit that area, along with a shower of stars. There's also lots of areas that look like small comets hit and melted into lakes and/or left crystals behind. Interestingly, some patches of water look different like a couple have dark water with beings who live in death all around. my last random bit since you noticed the spirit trees, what do you think of the other bushy trees growing around? some are growing out of the frozen lake in a very not tree like fashion, more like a root growing upwards if you ask me, and they look eerily similar to the branchy things stuck in the giants?

You can even see ghost coniferus trees in the mountaintops of the giants

@joseangelsotocabrera9256 lol that's what I said

Was thinking the same thing. Also the Great Tree that was there before the Erdtree was a conifer. So there is already some precedent for what you're saying. I might be talking about the crucible tree, i forget if these are two different things or not. Been a while

u too bro

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Almost like fromsoft just recycles basic concepts in all of their games

You say that like it's some sort of gotcha, but that's true of like 90% of media. Ideas get recycled and repurposed all the time.@@aceoffours9354

@@aceoffours9354 All ideas are just recycled old ideas told in a different way. Nothing is truly original.

@@aceoffours9354​​⁠ ive thought this for a while too, but i dont think it actually matters that much. Maybe the core concepts are the same between their games (repeating cycles, fallen kingdoms and stuff), but the lore is so intricate and unique in each game that ive never seen it as a problem for them to reuse the same core ideas.

At least this time, we have a general idea of what it will be thanks to the picture, so we can pretty safely assume some of the major themes. Death will for sure play a big part in it

People also speculate that the DLC that became the ringed city would be about Londor because of some roof design resembling the Morion Blade. But thats only from Memory so dont take it as guaranteed.

@@Ziostorm For Example we suspect the Person on the Horse is Miquella and while it is most likely no one knows for Sure. But i like your Theories nonetheless

Thats not really a good example. The circumstances around that were very different.

of course, but theorizing is fun regardless just don't let those theories set your expectations 😅

Yes, I misspoke. Been talking about this all for so long it’s just running together

​@@Ziostormit's really cool that you engage with your community and address small missteps like this. Keep it up, you're awesome

could that be why all the troll corpses are on mountain tops. their sprirts trapped in the snow?

that is an interesting thought. maybe so! @@ichie7725

ohhh perhaps you're right , i dont remember reading much about those

Maybe but the helphen and the lampwood are referred to as it being a black tree with that red grace around it so I doubt it would have the candles without them actually describing that in the item description, I wonder what the difference is tho

Those are the candletrees, mentioned in Candletree Wooden Shield as a representation of the prophecy of the Cardinal Sin, and were banned throughout Lands Between. You can also see them as a candle stand design inside Elphael.

Yeah exept every Enemy is replaced with Deathbirds and every boss with Death rite birds.

Could that be the red gracelike light you see in the forbidden lands?

Indead. Also, notice how the letter D in "Death" is in upper case in these descriptions.

It probably has to do with death itself just being red, and the ability to grant death indescriminant pulls from the realm of the dead somehow, leading to maliketh’s destined death looking red, and it losing that connection to death when maliketh seals it, causing the black flame to lose its color.

I wrote that around the three minute mark, all in all it seems to hold up pretty well post-video; that said I didn't want to tarnish my original comment with all its imperfections so I'll just reply to myself I guess? Consider this a footnote, perhaps food for thought. Thinking about the base, more aptly the foundation, of the blade strongly invoked the Zohar; the middle section especially reminiscent of the title page of what I think was the first print of the Zohar. For those unaware, the Zohar is a foundational text in Kabbalah; which, I might add, is a form of Jewish mysticism. Its discussions explore both spiritual and mystical concept and topics include the nature god, the structure of the universe, and the soul's journey. Within Kabbalah there is this concept known as the Qlippoth which represents the unclean or impure husks; husks in turn referring to the distorted, impure, aspects of divine energy which are seen as obstacles, impurities, that need to be transcended or overcome. ~[I don't even necessarily want to but this too harkens back to the bottom of the blade.. Considering the term husk is symbolic and represents a spiritual shell or barrier that veils the pure divine light; the saw-like edge symbolizes cutting through the barrier while the hatchwork represents the intricate connections between the physical and spirit realms, creating a bridge for smooth transition perhaps, together they suggest a guiding tool with the ability to navigate and facilitate the journey to the spirit realm.]~ The Qlippoth, basically mirroring the divine Sephiroth, is sometimes visualised as a reversed tree; in other symbolic representations it is portrayed as a realm or dimension that exists in opposite to the divine order, often described as shadowy, chaotic and impure. Other imagery may also include dark shells or husks surrounding the divine sparks, a representation of the distortion or corruption of divine energy. I haven't watched Crunchy's video yet, I will however; colour me intrigued.That said, could the notion perhaps ultimately prove reversed? Could it be that what we experience is actually the reverse? That would make for one hell of an interesting DLC if you'd ask me.

we dont have anything else to do

No it's not, he didn't even bother to double check his notes before giving a wrong summary of the history and then proceed to regurgitate what Crunchy already talked about

Thank you🙏

I should have, but I’m still working out all the lore around those. What confuses me about them is that, while they are technically “lampwoods,” they make spirits travel away rather than follow its light

For What it's worth, I think the Candletree Wooden Shield description is a red herring, as the candle tree, seems to be akin to the lampwood as minor erd trees are to the greater erd tree. As such, perhaps the candletrees (what I believe are the things we interact with) are related to but different in function from the lampwood. If the lampwood provides guidance to the dead, perhaps the candletrees are a mechanism to allow the dead to provide guidance to the living.

The rune of death was removed upon the creation of the Golden Order as far as I know; much earlier than the shattering

I agree. The deep was an interesting concept i wish they did more with