Eldrazi Tier List | Commander Clash Podcast 148

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What are the best Eldrazi cards in Magic: the Gathering?
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0:00 intro
3:40 Setting the Stage
4:55 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
10:21 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
14:16 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
17:39 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
22:09 Emrakul, the World Anew
27:12 Emrakul, the Promised End
32:20 Zhuladok, Void Gorger
36:13 All Is Dust
39:43 It That Betrays
42:56 Nulldrifter
46:14 Herigast, Erupting Nullkite
50:40 Flayer of Loyalties
53:37 Void Winnower
58:50 Oblivion Sower
1:05:33 Outro

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@friendo6257 Месяц назад

Richard and Seth still not understanding has moved from comedy to tragedy.

@tmain1320 Месяц назад

We must keep this as top comment!

@Will_Morand Месяц назад

This string of comments remains top comment until they understand

@mickeysmagic89 Месяц назад

Theirs is the “dies to doom blade” of edh takes

@koolaiddude7685894 Месяц назад

Mtg Goldfish brain

@jollyjenkins2278 Месяц назад

Which in itself, is comedy

@ajellis3914 Месяц назад

To clarify this three week long comment of the week: the original comment was in reference to Richard and Seth stating that Tomer should die first for playing Ruination, then Crim for suggesting MLD. If a sharp and effective strategy is pitched, the response is usually that the table will exclusively focus you. However, if everyone at the table is doing powerful stuff, is this a good argument? Sometimes one person has smothering tithe, one person opens the way for 6, and one person has necropotence out but only drew to 7 from 2 in hand. The smothering tithe player is also running ruination in his deck. Now consider that the strongest deck is to your right, so the other 2 players get to untap and deal with it too. Who do you focus then? Is it an easy choice? It just feels like a Tomer/Crim dies to doom blade argument. I’d love to see an actual discussion on the merits of running basics versus non-basics without it being reductive. That’s all!

@N7Crow Месяц назад

I think the steelman version of their argument are cards that generate a lot more hate than is worth for their quality, e.g. Strixhaven Stadium. While it is true that not everything will cause people to kill you on sight, that doesn’t mean there aren’t cards that will get you targeted.

@AnExercisInThought Месяц назад

Upvote for real clarity on week 3

@TheChiefKipSavage Месяц назад

Well put. I've been frustrated by this podcast for years by that being a go to reason to not play something and I'm glad they are finally starting to address it.

@BobardeZanzibar Месяц назад

The response to this is that you need to be advancing your game plan such that if attention shifts towards you, you can either fight back or win the game before your opponents can kill you. LD played as disruption sets everyone back without also removing their ability to fight back. A boardwipe will get everyone mad at you, but they can't do anything about it because their creatures are dead but if you destroy their lands, they can still hit you. Also, as long as LD is not mainstream, you present a unique threat to resources and eliminating you eliminates the possibility of you doing so in a way that killing a player doesn't completely eliminate the chances for a wrath.

@ajellis3914 Месяц назад

@@TheChiefKipSavage I do think this is a relevant thing, though, like I don’t play smothering tie or Necro potence because I don’t really think they’re worth the amount of hate you get and I don’t play combo. Some cards like oppression are super good but they’ll get you focused out real fast. People need to know about these cards so that they have the proper ideas in terms of deck building and what they should and shouldn’t be scared of playing. I think the real problem is when it’s applied to things that don’t necessarily take over the game in a way that presents a clear and obvious on board wincon. I need to know what the real things to watch out for her, not oh geez I’m gonna get focused because I ramped two lands out or have a guardian project.

@juangmalta Месяц назад

Richard and Seth having an actual goldfish memory for past comments of the week make it even funnier

@MTGGoldfishCommander Месяц назад

That's where the name comes from, our goldfish like memory ;)

@SmashCentralOfficial Месяц назад

2:45 LOL the point is you guys are doing the commander version of "well it dies to doomblade" every time someone names a card. Yes, maybe I play a good card and everyone kills me...theres also the possibility that I play a good card and untap with it. :O The duality of man.

@NoNo-qt4ov Месяц назад

Ive never seen someone double down so much like Richard did with his "but your opponents will just kill you" opinion. I dont think I've ever seen someone call Void Winnower bad 😂

@koolaiddude7685894 Месяц назад

I really enjoyed what Crim had to say in all of this.

@_claymore Месяц назад

indeed. first time I agree with everything Crim said. dude was on point this ep

@kingofsaltt3836 Месяц назад

@@_claymoretbf i think crim normally has good takes besides when hes obviously trolling

@99wattr89 29 дней назад

@@kingofsaltt3836 I guess he's just always trolling.

@TheAsianAvenger69 29 дней назад

Anytime bby

@TheQuarrelsomeOne Месяц назад

Tomer I appreciate you understanding, Richard I deny your disqualification.

@zotha Месяц назад

"think of the colourless mana, it's so hard to get!" ... in the format with Sol Ring and Mana Crypt and Mana Vault and Grim Monolith and Basalt Monolith all legal.

@akihitokoizumi2474 Месяц назад

Also many new lands tap for colorless

@calvinbarboza Месяц назад

If you are playing at a power level with all those cards, dropping an Eldrazi is probably the most pathetic play you could have.

@akihitokoizumi2474 Месяц назад

@@calvinbarboza True, but many people do not enjoy ending the game with a win but instead having fun trying to win the game. I would not play Eldrazi, but do not hate on those who have fun trying to play big colorless creatures.

@calvinbarboza Месяц назад

@@akihitokoizumi2474 I think Eldrazi are fine, just not at the same tables you are playing Mana Crypt and Basalt Monolith. If you are playing that level of Fast mana you are playing Big Boy Magic. I don’t mind Eldrazi, it’s my brother and roommate’s favorite archetype so I play against them frequently and have fun.

@chriselliott5539 Месяц назад

All the Talismans, Thought Vessel, Mind Stone, overflowing chalice all are played often and produce the "dreaded" colorless too let alone a lot of the utility lands like Myriad landscape, "pain" lands or Reliquiary tower. Colorless mana is so easy to make that 2 pips is not hard to coincidentally to have

@RighteousFondue Месяц назад

My absolute favorite thing to do with Oblivion Sower is to steal someone’s imprinted land from Extraplanar lens. It’s even more satisfying than blowing up the lens.

@Kestral287 Месяц назад

That's so savage and I love it.

@MTGGoldfishCommander Месяц назад

That's awesome.

@imaginarymatter Месяц назад

The Pain Lands, Filter Lands, and Talismans are ways you can run the colorless costing Eldrazi while maintaining your colors. I imagine that the new Modern Horizons 3 WUBRG Eldrazi deck will have other lands to help out in that regard.

@MakeVarahHappen Месяц назад

I like that Seth mentions that 20 isn't much in Commander because now the newest ulamog mills half. Wizards listened.

@TwolfS3041 Месяц назад

Sometimes listening to the goldfish podcast is like Kozilek giving me 4 new brain cells while simultaneously annihilating 4 others.

@spacesquid4298 Месяц назад

Richard and Seth *still* not getting this whole comment chain has to be intentional at this point, there's no way they both forget each week

@SDaHyo Месяц назад

Richard: “We need to go back to It that Betrays times and play more casually” Also Richard: “You can’t play cards like void winnower unless they immediately win the game”

@kanyda1 Месяц назад

The timing on this is really unfortunate with the new Ulamog getting spoilt today.

@MrMartinSchou Месяц назад

16:04 - "[it] needs a haste enabler" I'm just imagining Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre leaning down to try to fit two of its tentacles into a pair of Lightning Greaves.

@Jatch25 Месяц назад

Emrakul the Promised End is S-tier imo, because if you get someone to attack their commander into emrakul, you can choose not to put their commander back into the command zone.

@Sup4ast4r Месяц назад

Richard always speak in hyperbole and extreme narrow scenarios.

@TenshiArix Месяц назад

Most underrated line of play with her. I play her as my commander and getting hit by that trigger is basically GG.

@patriciaboggs8882 Месяц назад

I agree Emrakul is good but I strongly dislike that they changed the rules on your commander like that. It used to be that the owner made the decision on their commander returning to command zone even if someone else was controlling it but you also used to be able to shuffle commanders. I really think many of the rules committee decisions have been negative and wish we could go back to an earlier commander ruleset.

@crashking9930 Месяц назад

I have a deck with her, and it feels so amazing to kill someone with their own toxic deluge or draw their whole deck and then not thassa's oracle

@Cawby Месяц назад

@@patriciaboggs8882 I don't really think it's a rules issue. It specifically says you control the player during their turn. Very different from like a threaten into sacrifice.

@twhite9615 Месяц назад

Tomer on point with every opinion as usual!

@pinjimin7696 Месяц назад

Emrakul, The Promised End has the ability to exile your commander permanently.

@jacobadams6277 Месяц назад

Holy shit

@Jlizard27 Месяц назад

Don’t all spells that allow you to take control of an opponent’s turn?

@pinjimin7696 Месяц назад

@@Jlizard27 Yes.

@Kestral287 Месяц назад

You do still need another effect to exile it, but even putting it in the yard is often lights out for a commander centric deck.

@alexkulis7295 28 дней назад

Emrakul, the Promised End is an S-tier in my book. Richard has clearly not played this card enough to see how devastating this is. Burning their best cards and getting to run their creatures into terrible attacks. It is very hard to look at this card and not be impressed with the damage it can do.

@Jlizard27 Месяц назад

This is like watching my grandma progress through dementia, but arguably more painful.

@ChinmanPlayCOD Месяц назад

Arena has taught me Emrakul the Promised End also lets you decide where their commander goes when you control their turn. Leave it in exile, or shuffle it into the deck? Absolutely Brutal S tier

@tyguy77777 Месяц назад

I dont think this was really touched on for Newlamog, but what really scares me about the Exile 20 effect, from when I first started playing, to even now, is that it's on an attack trigger. You dont even have to connect with the thing, you just have to swing, which you're GONNA do, it's an indestructible 10/10. That's what gives me nightmares about that card the most

@tyguy77777 Месяц назад

And yeah you can say the same about annihilator, but I do think the exile 20 is more detrimental to someone

@MakeVarahHappen Месяц назад

I am glad that I've made a running joke on this podcast.

@ubertuna1 Месяц назад

Sire of Stagnation is a pretty sweet one you guys missed, felt like it got a lot of play when it came out but not as much anymore. It also combos well with Oblivion Sower because it constantly exiles your opponents' cards

@jean-paulbascelli1078 Месяц назад

Void winnower also stops cyclonic cheese, which, for me is invaluable.

@Kestral287 Месяц назад

For a while there was a push toward odd cmc board wipes as we got all these Wrath of God+ cards. But now efficiency has come around, people like Planar Cleansings, and so all the wraths are even again. Winnower turning off all but like two played ones is nuts.

@LookADistarction Месяц назад

Any Eldrazi that I can afford is an S-Tier Eldrazi!

@jackl8025 Месяц назад

What about proxies?

@scrdngr Месяц назад

My favorite thing about OG titans was being able to sack them to greater good to avoid removal spells and draw a bunch of cards. Then being able to tutor for them with eye of ugin.

Месяц назад

This episode will need a sequel in less than a month with MH3 commander coming.

@jackl8025 Месяц назад

It That Betrays works with opponents' sacrificing their own things, e.g. fetchlands, Sakura Tribe Elder, Evoke triggers, Blitz, Emerge, the new MH3 free spell cycle, etc. Not sure it raises the ranking but you definitely don't have to play black to take advantage of it!

@dylonson4786 27 дней назад

Annihilator makes defending player sacrifice permanents. It's like they forgot they were talking about eldrazi.

@RyanEglitis 25 дней назад

I think the biggest point in it's favor is that it's a great reanimate target. Even sneak attack is pretty nice.

@castlemanpunk4436 Месяц назад

You guys treating colorless pips are some “rare and unobtainable treasure” is mind blowing.

@ettoreozzy9932 Месяц назад

I find a bit funny how much Seth values Annihilator and he joins Richard in the argument of "if you play this card you will become archenemy" and a Annihilator Eldrazi titan will for sure make you archenemy.

@TheRedGauntlet Месяц назад

Void Winnower stops Farewell. S Tier

@rquer7913 Месяц назад

I came here expecting for Eldrazi, but you won me with Seth's cat 😬

@danielsniff6405 Месяц назад

My abaddon deck got Emrakuled once. They used my deck to storm off, casted like 20 spells, and killed me with Kambal triggers. It was pretty funny.

@raymondcameron6047 Месяц назад

Sire of Stagnation! Punishment for the land-rampers and card draw in one.

@joshuacapps2273 Месяц назад

No one is mentioning NEWlamog as colorless removal? Exile two things in any color is so good for any color

@KVGKQuake Месяц назад

Oh, how I miss having side boards in commander. In my Melek, Izzet Paragon deck, I used to run Coax from the Blind Eternities as a win con with my Eldrazi Board. The plan was to storm off and just make an insane amount of mana and then grab Spawnsire of Ulamog to use its ability to cast the rest of my Eldrazi board. If All is Dust and It That Betrays wasn't enough to win, all the Eldrazi Titans sure was.

@BeastlyP1g Месяц назад

From a purely competitive perspective Richard is right in how he sees the format and evaluates cards. However I think that is ALSO the mindset that leads the crew to play the same cards over and over again...

@Jlizard27 Месяц назад

Richard never stopped trying to Jund them out.

@jyomi7506 Месяц назад

Rakdos the Muscle LOVES Oblivion Sower! Just focus down someone's deck with a few of his exile triggers, then snag all those lands and start casting their cards all at once XD

@ausarthevile7151 Месяц назад

An overlooked aspect of Emrakul and Mindslaver's wording is that since you control the player, you are able to decide whether or not the commander is returned to the command zone. Casting Path to Exile on your opponent's commander, leaving it in exile, and failing to find the land, can be enough to shut entire decks out of the game permanently.

@thebobbybabbitt7703 Месяц назад

Lol guys you have to stop with these "what about" arguments. Yes, there's literally an answer for every situation in magic, I don't think that should determine if a card is good or not 😂. There's a situation for every card in magic to not be good.

@surfinggarchomp2820 Месяц назад

Richard: you shouldn’t play cards that put a target on your back unless they win you the game Also Richard: we should play more kozelek butcher of truth for the card draw

@ElDocBruh Месяц назад

The aggro eldrazi get you can get irrational at certain points. The one time I ever managed to cast new Kozilek on a board with an elfball and a goblin deck that were completely out of control everyone ganged up on me, even though I was 100% doing the worst. My other creature was a Krosan Tusker! After they killed me, the elf died to the goblin and the goblin died to niv+curiosity. Ah, good times.

@herbertwiley Месяц назад

Kozilek, Butcher of Truth isn't quite as big as Seth's cat. As far as Kozilek, the Great Distortion is concerned, it sure would be nice if Eldrazi Temple or Sol Ring tapped for 2 colorless mana. The clause on Herigast that says "each creature spell you cast has emerge; the emerge cost is equal to the its mana cost" really sells that card. Void Winnower was great from day one.

@joshuadoring8050 Месяц назад

“Oh my gosh is this Crim here!? It’s 4 things you don’t care about!!” Hilarious

@user-rm8ot4tf4f Месяц назад

Herigast goes really hard in an eldrazi deck if you play cards like up the beanstalk or the new kozilek’s unsealing and you can basically chain your entire deck

@Woozychu Месяц назад

Ayo where spawnsire of Ulamog?🗣️

@daxamlhant7285 Месяц назад

Out of all the printed eldrazi the one I find to be generically best with play wasn't even mentioned. Emrakul's Hatcher is fairly good for most scenarios. It makes bodies that are easy to sac, it can be be a ritual for a following turn, and it is really good to flicker to keep going in a turn

@kandjar Месяц назад

17:20 @Richard why would you go draw 4 over exile 2 of any permanent when you can draw 3 for 3 mana in white?

@YCFTCG Месяц назад

27:02 Me whenever a new @MTGGoldfish Commander video drops

@justinernst5595 Месяц назад

I love Oblivion Sower. I play it in my Kozi deck. I dont think iv ever got less then 2 lands in the countless games iv played. It always feels great

@alexkulis7295 28 дней назад

I do like that a Nulldrifter can trigger the graveyard effect of a Kozilek's Return.

@MrABK108 Месяц назад

My favourite is Ulamog's Crusher. Best pauper beater.

@peterhardiman7333 Месяц назад

Seth @16:40 sometimes there's a player at the table who's already losing and then this card is good!

@norveg31337 Месяц назад

Hi, I'm a very new player, but one of my fav card Emarkul Aeon's Torn is missing. Is it banned and that's why it was not on the list?

@SterileSauce Месяц назад

Thought a cool podcast episode idea would be discussing and ranking the “coolest” cards in mtg, not necessarily the most powerful. For example, Worldslayer has a 10 total cast/equip and still needs to swing to trigger, but aesthetically it’s one of the coolest cards in mtg.

@ODSTWILL7675 Месяц назад

Ive done ulamog with haste + blas act. It was glorious

@Zakading 29 дней назад

The best thing about Oblivion Sower is that it always steals my opponent's Command Tower when I play Zhuladok

@bradensorensen966 2 дня назад

I feel like Nulldrifter was undervalued. Though some of the unknown-at-the-time MH3 cards that support it weren't available... cards that do support it existed! It can be evoked to set off cards that care about 7 mana value colorless/eldrazi spells and then you can emerge at flash speed to get another cast trigger and have a big body.

@trymepoppo Месяц назад

Void Winnower was my answer to my friend who loved to play boardwipe. Most of his boardwipes have even mana cost.

@peterhardiman7333 Месяц назад

Nulamog is better than og kozilek for sure! Two very different bombs with their own homes but the indestructible and spot removal x2 has crazy crazy UTILITY which is what a singleton player craves most....

@jaysonking4055 Месяц назад

Tomers fear of milling his opponent is kinda hilarious

@MusicalBoarder Месяц назад

Oblivion sower is soooo good in my jeleva, nephalia's scourge deck.

@walrider8073 Месяц назад

Crims performance as the eldrazi was outstanding

@RyanEglitis 25 дней назад

Kozilek the Great Distortion actually _does_ suffer from the "if you play it people will target you" problem. It looks super threatening, but usually can't protect itself for long. 7 cards feels like a lot, but when you have to pick and chose what to hold and what to play, those cards go quick (and that's assuming you even were able to set up the ideal draw 7). Add in the wingdings mana cost and the mediocre menace, and he's really more of an A than an S. "If Mulldrifter was a cast trigger, would you play it in any deck?" Yes, Animar. I'll take 5, in fact.

@kandjar Месяц назад

1:06:28 What about Sire of Stagnation????? A-tier despite its lack of casting trigger or annihilator :-)

@matthewbixler2728 Месяц назад

Hey Richard, you know what you can still play when a Void Winnower is in play that answers it? Swords to Plowshares

@eastcoastoverseer Месяц назад

With Ceaseless Hunger not just milling but exiling those twenty cards, that puts it over the top for me. Goodbye recursion!

@sweatyluxury4701 19 дней назад

Missed Crim for the Ulamog perspective!

@ben_clifford Месяц назад

55:22 I agree with Richard here. This argument doesn’t apply to all good cards, but it does apply to cards that annoy or scare people without actually stopping or killing them. As an example, last night, I saw Grand Arbiter get removed when my entire board was clearly more threatening.

@PerhapsOOTMM Месяц назад

Richard bringing up Planeswalkers being able to kill Emrakul is kind of hilarious given how much he hates them in commander.

@ignacioalmonacid6153 Месяц назад

I missed Crim's insanity to have a full contribution in this episode. Still, I love this episode.

@razzlefrazzle69 Месяц назад

With the new emrakul it says spells cast this turn but it’s always this turn how does that work

@RibusPQR Месяц назад

No, she says protection from spells and (protection) from permanents cast this turn. So you can't cast Leyline Binding and target her. But if you sneak a Leyline Binding into play, you can target her.

@ohako79 Месяц назад

Oblivion Sower is the top-end ramp for Jeleva, Nephalia’s Scourge.

@Byteside546 Месяц назад

It that betrays is the best one to reanimate imo

@sethlaclaire4211 25 дней назад

Man it really sucks they didn't review the new Ulamog. I wanted to hear their opinions on it.

@natejablonski Месяц назад

Come on, Tomer. You add an OG Eldrazi titan to a deck to let you draw even more cards.

@keithmoore5076 Месяц назад

Im surprised they mention Emrakul the Promised End's Utility of being able to make a deal to give someone just an extra turn in essence to kill another player.

@kainhighwind9530 Месяц назад

Also to jump in on this 3 week comment as a person who just binged most of yall podcasts. Richard is straight up a “Well actually” guy to every spell he doesn’t personally say. Seth is a little less. Still very extra about it though

@Jlizard27 Месяц назад

I find that Seth is a little less insistent that his opinion is correct and more willing to accept that he has his own preferences, whereas Richard is ready to be put out to pasture and just doesn’t know it yet.

@facepalmjesus1608 Месяц назад

i need the Battle for Zendikar/Gatewatch set for Arena

@trevorkuhfuss3968 Месяц назад

To defend Flayer of Loyalties, it can give itself haste as well. Not sure how much that makes it matter, but just thought I'd point that out.

@RibusPQR Месяц назад

In order to do that, it would have to already be on the battlefield while it's on the stack.

@Bigtasty63 Месяц назад

12:30 Tomer says “if you’re a combo player here” but we all know he’s scared that Kaldra would be hit with the exile

@Jupue Месяц назад

49:00 cant you just chain a bunch of casttriggers by repeatedly saccung the bew thing to emerge?

@MrMartinSchou Месяц назад

Too soon. If you had waited for the first day of official MH3 spoilers, you would have had [Ulamog, the Defiler] in the list as well. [Ulamog, the Defiler]{10} * When you cast this spell, target opponent exiles half their library, rounded up. * Ward - Sacrifice two permanents. * Ulamog, the Defiler enters the battlefield with a number of +1/+1 counters on it equal to the greatest mana value among cards in exile. * Ulamog, the Defiler has annihilator X, where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on it.

@alanpigate8776 Месяц назад

Everyone always underestimates the mindslaver or emrakul that gets the player with the biggest board to attack out at someone else. I've even killed players with a stolen turn attack.

@Prejak Месяц назад

Oblivion Sower is pretty good vs new card Omenpath Journey

@TheSquiggy Месяц назад

surprised endbringer didnt make the list

@eccentricmace Месяц назад

Can we get Tomer's Kozilek deckist lol. Am keen to experience the Hedron archive value myself

@sheendog9280 Месяц назад

Can you guys please do a quick ranking of the other two new Eldrazi titans from MH3!!

@keagancollins3243 Месяц назад

Now I want to build an eldrazi deck

@1ryb360 Месяц назад

29:47 can't believe I'm agreeing with Richard but I've been saying this for ages. Controlling an opponent is a deceptively weak effect because if an opponent puts a card in their deck, it's probably beneficial to them. So most of the things you can do when controlling your opponent is still beneficial to them. You often just end up passing the controlled turn (what are you gonna do, cast my permanents for me? Sure, thanks for the extra turn lol) and Emrakul just ends up being a 13/13 pseudo vanilla.

@esrohm6460 Месяц назад

Hear me out void winower, but you also play the uneven companion. Let's uneven the odds

@laytonjr6601 Месяц назад

With Hedrigath as commander, you can play Eldrazi storm

@tellable9425 Месяц назад

Richard coming down with a very serious case of always being right about everything

@almogdov Месяц назад

As a Karador player, I only play Nulamog and Emrakul, being able to cast them from the GY is very silly. I also hate annihilate.

@thatonedudejake 26 дней назад

I had to take It That Betrays out of my Feldon deck because getting it out on turn 4 made my friends really salty

@RyanEglitis 25 дней назад

If you really want to cascade hard, cast Apex Devastator and skip the deckbuilding hoops Zhulodok puts you through. Imoti is also nice in that she can retrigger if you start higher. It that Betrays is great largely as one of the best reanimation/sneak attack creatures (I run it in Satoru as a Ninja 😁). It's a house and it has a lasting effect on the board. Solid A.

@mightyone3737 Месяц назад

There is no reason OG Emmy should be banned in Commander, 15 mana for all that is openly absurd, the issue was you'd just ramp and keep casting it, but at this point you'd be dead meat to a Nikya Eldrazi deck long before you're casting your Emmy (this is also why Zhulodok and the Titans are all worse than just picking a Gruul or Simic ramp Commander and running Eldrazi stuff in it, by the time you're approaching cascade time you're dead or nearly dead, Gruul is so much faster than colourless, and Gruul ramp can survive most boardwipes (land ramp baby!), on top of all those juicy fight effects you'd get access to! Also Kessig Wolf Run is one of the best lands in a ramp deck!

@mightyone3737 Месяц назад

Also, I feel like Richard's argument about 'don't be the tall chicken' is decent advice, if you stick your neck way out someone is bound to take a swing at you, if not multiple people. I think a great example is Consecrated Sphinx, is it a good card or a bad card? I'd say it depends on how strong your deck's defensive game is; if you are likely to fold under the sustain attention of multiple players then you shouldn't run a tall chicken card like the Sphinx, you should run something less obvious, like Sphinx of the Second Sun, which hopefully won't make you 'the most problematic player' with any regularity, where Consecrated Sphinx is almost always THE problem.

@RyanEglitis 25 дней назад

It wouldn't be banned without the time walk. Also everyone had one back in the day because it was the prerelease promo - it showed up in like half of games.

@Zakading 29 дней назад

The absolutely best thing in a Zhuladok deck is probably dropping a Metalwork Colossus for 0-3 mana consistently to roll into an Ulamog or something