Electric Motorcycles vs Gas Motorcycles (HARD FACTS) 

So I know a lot of people are still super hard up against electric bikes, but they have a lot of potential and the tech is really cool. Kinda like our new giveaway bikes! Get entered to win early on yammienoob.co

Electric bikes need a removable battery of industry std design that can be swapped out in seconds. Imagine having a bank of batteries on charge & charged at the local servo like swap n go gas bottles You pay a set fee just like the gas bottle system & now its just as fast as fueling up. You pull up remove your battery & put in the bank on charge then grab another fully charged & install then ride away.

If I could afford to have two bikes, I'd have an electric one for daily commuting to and from work, and then one for long, fun, spirited rides.

1:36 it’s not a model S, it’s a Roadster 2.

I've got a Zero SR/F. The range is sufficient for what I do, charging is pretty quick (6kW), and the thing pulls like a liter bike. Best part is going 0-80mph-0 from one stoplight to the next, silently!

You point out a lot of good facts but electrics have their place... I have a Zero SR 2015. In the 4 years riding, the ONLY expense I've had is tires. This bike has paid for itself in repairs, gas, oil, etc. I hardly ever use the brakes cause regen does most of the slowing down. Yes, they cost more initially but are really cheap to keep. I've never had to stop for a recharge as I plug it in when I go to bed and I have all the juice I need to ride the 100 miles a day I do. I use the bike for commute and weekend jaunts so it's perfect for that. I'm not into cruising anyway. ...and the torque, WOW! I'll never go back to gas.

I took a livewire for a rip the other day. It was crazy fast but I immediately put it in sport mode and proceeded to kill 30% of the battery in like 20 minutes...

Great review. I have a BMW F 800 GT as my main ride, a Victory Vegas for cruising and making noise, but I also have an Energica Eva 107. The electric bike is definitely the fastest, but is only practical currently as a commuter. What a commute! Regulations in Europe will probably drive the market in the direction of electric bikes in the next few years, but I love all my bikes.

This is great👍, thanks for explaining it. I really needed to have access to this information, and I’m glad you shared this. Great work. Your crisp, well articulated, information sets are very well worthy of my attention when I can chime in, and are well worth the merit they receive in the long run. Thanks.

Glad you added that last comment about 600's. I cant count how many noobs tell me their 600 is just as fast as my R1. We'll, atleast until after they ride a litre bike and realize what my bike does in 1st gear, theirs does in 4th

Thanks for making this video! I've been riding an electric motorcycle for the past 4 years and agree that range, charging time, and weight are all huge factors. If you get a chance to ride the new Energicas, please check them out! They've improved so much that the gap between gas and electric is getting really small, and the charging infrastructure is totally enough for a cross-country road trip now.

Yoshimura playing cards to put in your spokes for some gnarly electric exhaust sounds.

I love how you start off sounding unbiased and then ending extremely biased lol

Sick burn at the end. Nice one Yammie.

Very smooth transition to the give away yammie!!

I commute with a Zero SRF in Los Angeles, I’d have to say I agree with your statement that electrics are great commuters and gas bikes are for recreational use, as I also have a XDiavel S for fun weekend rides!

I've ridden an electric scooter ...I did a lot of fun with it n a top speed test too ...the wind was gushing around my head at the top speed of 25 kmph... really fun ...! 😝

Younger riders don't care about loud pipes. Electric bikes are here to stay and they are super fun.

Just wait for the Hell''s Angels to switch to Harley Livewires.

Awesome video! I’m keen to see what the future holds for E-Bikes. For the moment, I’m looking at getting an SV650 as a commuter.

My 2015 Zero SR has lost about 5% charge at most. FYI... one thing about battery power is cold lowers performance and increases charge time if the temp is below freezing. Here in Colorado that is about 2 months out of the year.

7:05 nice gear dude

I always eyed an eletric moped for city going. As it stands, I am soon getting a 98' XTZ660.

I was considering the Zero motorcycles when getting my bike. The initial cost and fact that I hadn’t been on a motorcycle for many years factored into my decision. My 390 Duke purchase was ideal at that moment of time but I’d definitely consider an electric again when looking for my next bike. I guess my point is, if money wasn’t an option to my MC purchase, a Zero MC would be what I would be riding since I use it to commute and take a Sunday cruise. Yeah, the sound would be missed but it would be the cool factor of low/zero emissions and having something that is cutting edge/conversation piece.

Your intros are worthy of their own videos 👏🏽👏🏽

They need it to be a screaming loud hybrid! People already don’t see us I’ll pass on stealth mode being permanently selected too boot

I’ll gladly pay extra for the beautiful symphony of combustion at high revolution.

This is officially the first Yammie Noob video I’m watching on the toilet.

I think that the new lightning strike having level 3 fast charging is a big step towards electric bikes becoming more practical. Being able to charge what is currently the highest capacity battery in the industry in only 30 minutes is a huge leap forward.

That last pic of the turbo busa is from my local dealership BIG st Charles Motorsport I just bought a z650 from them

One day I'll have an electric bike. Maybe a fun trail bike or if I ever get into track days. But I need me that sweet, sweet Triple Symphony to shake my soul for now

Bikes are already efficient.. it never hurts my pocket to fuel up my bikes and the sound of the engine is amazing up in 12k plus rpms.. I never rode an electric bike but I can’t imagine the experience being any better then it already is.. maybe more accessible tracks would be the best improvement to the bike world that I could see.

If I could find an used electric for what I can buy a 300cc-400cc bike for I'd already have pulled that trigger. I absolutely LOVE the sound of an electric with the "throttle" all the way closed

I love you Tammie Noob!! Homo and all!! New rider here in the northeast USA thanks to you..love your informative and funny videos. Keep up the good work. Love you 😘

I haven't seen the video yet but finally to getting in the real deal with electric motorcycles!

You see, that technology is already here, it's called solid state batteries, and they have almost 10 times the density of it's li-po battery counterpart

Papa yamm made my day

I have an evoke urban s and i love it because it is fast, quiet and lasts long. I understand that people don’t like it and thats there opinion but if your thinking of it then get one they dont cost anything to maintain and you have a spare battery in case you run out of charge

Great perspective!!!!

When you say "do you need to get towed", you should add an amphibian illustration.

Get me 400 mile range on a nights charge and enough torque to pull the front wheel at 120mph and you got you a customer!

Zero S/SR is the best motorcycle type I've ever owned. In the same token, owning a Tesla is better than any gas powered car I've ever owned. I don't do anything over 98 on ANY motorcycle off the track, and I don't go to the track anymore. Purely anecdotally but the lack of sound makes me feel safer because I'm just another vehicle on the road. I've stored my bike for over two months uncharged and it didn't lose a single percentage of charge in that time. I've put "gas" into my bike at convenience stores and other places, and often joke about how I can refuel at more places than gas motorcycles. The technology is only going to get better. The instant torque and lack of shifting/single drive is something I can never, ever, ever give up now. I hate when I'm forced to ride a gas powered vehicle now - it feels so... shitty.

Charging my Zero SR costs me about $1.61. ...the cost can vary depending on time of day, utility cost changes etc.

People dont hate anything as long as long it serves it’s purpose well. Just give me a small, cheap, 50 hp Electric car that has a range of 100 km so i can go to work and back for the whole week and I’m game. Even an electric bike for silent riding through the woods would be great. But for long distance Petrol is still the answer.

The only 2 things which are preventing to me to get an E Bike: price and living in a city flat with no garage: no charging possibility.

Have you tried the Energica Ego? Curious how you react to it, all things considered.

9:35 i was actually thinking of making solar powered electric moped(with max speed of 45km/h) but i calculated that i would probably need to wait for like 50% efficient solar panels until it would give me enough range for my daily commute and even then it would only do that for like only 6 month per year so not perfect but that's still alot less charging so it's definitely an improvement.

My first motorcycle was electric. A Honda 36V pocket rocket. It was even light enough for me to pick up when I was 12. Of course it only did 25mph with a tail wind and had a range of just 20 miles. But I was the coolest kid in 7th grade.

Lol solid fact at the end XD

Innovation > Tradition

I ride my Zero SR half above 60 and half at or below 40. My range is a solid 110 to 130 to empty. I also accelerate smooth (Most of the time). Keep in mind that habits that save you gas, directly apply to saving you KWH.

I've been riding electric bikes for a quite few years now. Yes a few years. I've ridden Lead Acid Battery moped scooters, I own a 1st gen BMW C-Evolution with the Long Range package, and my brother used to have a Lightning LS-218 as a track toy. Lead Acid batteries aren't great for a whole lot of things, but the batterypack in that moped did get a reliable 110km range at 45kph. It was advertised with 160km range though and it never made that, it got maybe 130km when it was brand new and over the course of a couple of years that dropped to 110, which was fine for my 80 ish km daily commutes. Upgrading it from lead acid to lithium polymer would be almost a 1000 euro investment (including charger, battery management etc), replacing the lead acid batteries would have run me maybe 300 euro. But keep in mind that this is a 300 euro 'maintenance' fee about every 40.000km. A regular petrol fueled moped has a maintenance interval of about 3000km, need to get valves adjusted, belts inspected, sparkplugs replaced, oil, filters the whole works. This is still a 250-300 euro service and it happens much much more frequently. Minor services like brushes and other wear components, that's about the same either way. The biggest downside I experienced with that electric moped, was people who ride bicycles with electric support are twunts who will unplug another bike in order to charge their own. And because these kinds of bikes use regular plugs and outlets, the charge cord doesn't lock. I eventually modified the theft alarm to start blaring if the charger was unplugged, before it was done charging, without the key in the bike. That did help a lot, 135dBa of instant punishment for unplugging my bike made people plug it back in real fast. My BWM C-Evolution, it's a couple years old now. I did have it restricted to an A2 license, because that was more convenient to me. And let's be real, for commuting and light sightseeing, 35kW is plenty. It's pegged to 135kph top speed, but again, the speed limit here has recently been lowered to 100kph. It's plenty to overtake a lorry on the motorway. As for the range, BMW promised me 160km when I bought the bike almost 50.000km ago. So far they haven't broken their promise in the slightest. Heck I am convinced they sold me a battery that could do almost 200km, just so it will never go under the advertised range. I charge up at work, I rarely have to charge at home at all. So in that regard it's pretty much free to ride. It takes about 4 hours to fully charge from a household socket, and it'll take a 30-80% charge from a fast charger in about 30-40 minutes. Going on a roadtrip with the lads, it takes a bit more planning, because he have to sort of aim for cafe's where there's a charger nearby enough that I can plug my bike in to charge. But that isn't that much of a problem really. I mean it's a country half the size of Delaware and there's 35.000 public chargers and over 100.000 private chargers, though a considerable amount of those are "privately owned" by a hotel or restaurant, so they are effectively still public. The LS-218 was a brilliant track toy, but far from cheap to run. It is scary fast. That's really all I can say about that. Setting it to have a linear throttle response is a brave thing to do. That thing really showed what an electric bike is capable of if you make no compromises. And I am not ashamed that being a scooter rider I am not the rider who can take that bike anywhere near it's limits. So I'd say electric bikes are perfectly viable for commuting and general urban mobility, but it really depends on where you live. I can ride anywhere in my country without ever having to worry that I will not be able to find a charger. Even in the most rural of area's there are going to be cafe's and restaurants who will have a charger. Or who will at least have an accessible outlet for slow charging. But even then, spending an hour over some drinks will get me enough charge to get to a fast charger where I can top up sufficiently in 20 minutes to get home. And for serious roadtrips, I just borrow my friend's X-Adv and in exchange he gets to "play Jetsons" as he puts it on my C-Evolution.

Good, unbiased video

Funny you say that. I went for a demo ride when the Zero SR/F came out. One of the guys was pretty arrogant and down on electrics (Harley "bad-ass"). He got on one and twisted the throttle and the bike rocketed out from under him. It was a mess. I wish I had my phone out recording it. To me, the new SRs are almost scary fast. The acceleration is instant and can catch you off guard if you aren't prepared.

Yammie please make a review of the Energica Ego and try DC 24kw fast charging. That work be nice to know your opinion.

Your energy density comparison between chemical gasoline and a battery pack isn’t valid. Gasoline stores pure chemical potential energy but when burned, it isn’t fully transformed into usable power which results in energy losses of sound and heat. This is called Efficiency, and electric vehicles of all types are simply better at it than gas vehicles due to bigger things being more energy efficient and electric vehicles sourcing their energy from power plants (very being and pretty efficient) compared to your engine (much smaller and more less efficient in comparison).

You just need a DC charger adapter or attach more chargers to your bike. The more chargers attache the faster it will charge.

Thank you for another great video. I of course, think gas bikes will stay for a long long time. I would love to have an electrical bike as a second bike. BUT remember Lithium powered bikes are not as clean as the seller will tell you. ;) Bom trabalho! :)

Still waiting for an end fact that I don't already know.

Very good point. as you point out, IC engines decline performance/efficiencies over time as much as if not more than current battery tech. If you were to replace a battery and replace a motor, the motor might be cheaper today. I believe this will change within the next couple years as tech gets better. ...and the new battery will most likely have more power and last longer than the last one. I don't think this is always the case for ICE.

Big St. Charles Motorsports in the 'Busa House! Nice.

I've got a cbt legal electric motorbike with 170nm of torque. Perfect for around cities as it will do 0-40 in seconds but after that its really slow. If you haven't ridden one yet I would really try to, someone I work with has ridden super bikes for about 20 years now and says that my bike is really fun and pretty impressive for what it is. Just need to get used to being really smooth with throttle because it will go of you're not careful

Is it just me or does anyone else want to see Koeniggsegs Free-valve tech in a bike , the applications would be amazingly insane on one

I wish to have an electrique bike that has a mean supersport look.. for sound.. just have speakers and can actually download the sound you want.. Amen

E-motorcycles would be well suited to the commuting/errand role, but at present there just aren't many aiming for this power range (19-34 kW, 25-46 HP). Just the Zero S & FXS, with perhaps the Chinese Evoke Urban S & Niu RQi coming in the near future. The Zeros are up to twice the price of a comparable 250-400 cc, because batteries are still so expensive. Alas, most current e-motorcycle offerings are more like the 1st generation Tesla Roadster. Fast, but expensive, heavy (for a sports car), and with so much range anxiety. Rich man's toys. That said, I like the idea of quiet running, mechanical simplicity and environmental goals. Only expendables would be tires, brake fluid/pads, and belt, so maintenance intervals could climb into the cage range. A moderately priced and powered electric (I don't need to go 100+ mph on my commute) would make a useful complement to a gas motorcycle (for more sporty or-far flung adventures). Not great for some living situations, but if you've got a garage for nightly charging you're set.

Maybe faster, but not cheaper. The zero srs (the one in the thumbnail) is over 20,000 dollars.

I own a 2019 Zero FXS. Owned it for a year and a half now. This is probably the most accurate video about electrics vs gas. Electric riders aren’t saying our bikes are the best/perfect, but we are saying they are fun to ride and less to maintain. Facts

You know I have a Harley livewire. I love it. It’s my daily rider. I ride all day. I never ran into a range issue. I commute 40 miles one way 5 days a week. Plus the mountain rides on the weekends. But with this said my situation is unique. I have a level one charger at work. Also there’s chargers in the mountains where I ride so my bike is always topped off when I ride. So it’s super rare that my battery level is below 1/3rd. But that’s my situation. I understand that not everyone has my situation but I’m glad I do.

Electric vehicles are great around town or commuting short distances. At present, for long journeys they need a completely different mindset - one that can accept long breaks far more frequently that we're otherwise used to and they need some forward planning - if there's nowhere to charge, you might want to think again! In fact, you want a backup plan for when your chosen charger doesn't work and, ideally, a backup plan for your backup charger... Going off on a complete tangent, there was some amazing scenery in that video. I wouldn't get far in a place like that on any type of vehicle - I'd be stopping every few feet to take a photo!

I think the companies who produce electric cars/motorcycles should standardize the batteries they use and make it swappable. So in the future you don't have to wait for your batteries to charge you just swap the ones on your vehicles to the pre charged ones in a power station. Kinda like what we do for propane tanks.

One thing that is misleading when it comes to comparing energy density as our Boi Hammy Lube does, is the ability to actually transfer the stored or potential energy into go juice at the tyre. For instance, a really, really, REALLY, thermally efficient I.C. engine can convert about 40-ish % of the fuels potential energy to power at the crank, with the rest lost to friction or heat expelled into the cooling system. Electric motors are capable of transferring something closer to 90% of the stored electrical potential energy to the output shaft, mostly since there is only 1 component of an electric motor that moves and dissipates energy to friction. What this ultimately means is that if we have 3 gallons of fuel on a standard bike at 36KWhr/gallon that's 108KWhr of chemical potential, but if only 40% makes its way to raw crank-shaft power, that means a 3 gallon tank only has ~42 KWhr of usable energy. so to match that, an electric bike would only need a 50KWhr battery to match the usable energy of a gas bike. Overall I think the idea of electric motorcycles is very interesting and I'm ready to see what comes from the proliferation of electrification.

Coast to coast is very possible on an electric motorcycle as long as you are sleeping in hotels and not using a tent. Just plug in the bike overnight as you sleep and by morning you're all ready to go.

Havent been to a gas station since december, feels so guud.

Engines are also neither light nor small; while the battery pack is bigger than the gas tank (comparable to engine), the motor is much smaller (comparable to transmission) and there isn't a transmission on electric - my Zero SR/F they pack a 14.4 kW-hr battery and 110HP motor where the traditional engine and transmission are, and what would be my gas tank is a storage compartment, but I could get a "charge tank" (extra circuit for faster charging), or a power tank (extra battery for extended range). And because of that, it's surprisingly practical for a truly naked bike. I can carry my lunch in my Zero, not so much on my H-D Dyna Fatbob, nor my SR400, and each has the same ballpark of range (SR400

What are the transmissions like on these bikes? As he says the roar of the motor and the understanding of where you are in the revs and transferring the power to the rear wheel is intimate and poetry in motion. Do you get this experience on an electric bike? Or is it just like riding a scooter?

Look in the left mirror at 7:00

Try plugshare you will find a lot of charge stations.

i personally want a mankame ep-1 but theyre not in production yet and are 70k away from being made, search it up to find more, its electric btw

That old gixxer was actually really cool looking. I would for sure roll that.

Well, ive got 2 burners(1 rice burner and one dino burner) but I think an ebike could be pretty cool. I totally agree though, that battery tech needs more big brains. Right now, it's like go carts vs economy cars. Yeah the cart can go and it can do, but its not a super practical choice for your 3 town spanning shopping trip.

I ride the zero FX electric on my channel waiting for Harley to drop the price!

"Let your queies be known!" 'Are we ready to admit electric motorcycles into the ranks?' "DENIED!"

RIP hayabusa in India 😩

Hey yammy I just started my channel and I’m about to do a rebuild on my 08 zx6r. I watch you often hope I can get some RU-vid video posting advice and a follow.

8:08 why does this look more like san andreas than LA XD

My whole adventure into bikes was due to electrics, (scoots/zero’s) then realized torque and power was cheaper and funner(?) with gas lol

I think electric scooters is where it’s at , someone needs to make a cheap transporter and start from there

Don't have the range, and won't have the range. I need 350 miles in the mountains riding hard and I'm a big boy

The amount of mines and the damage to the environment would exponentially increase due to electric vehicles.

that you cant fix electric bike isnt a con in general i wouldnt be able to repair a gas bike but electric easily. so thats more person to person

The continued high price of EVs combined with the rapid depreciation of motorcycles makes for one hell of a hurdle to get over to pull the trigger on e motorcycles.

I've ridden an electric Gogoro 125cc 100kmh class electric scooter in Taiwan which has swappable batteries so you don't have to ever charge. The scooter was better in almost every way compared to the 125 Yamaha I had and the range was almost as comparable. I rode the bike all day including riding up a mountain and back into the city and I still had half a charge left. These scooters could accelerate much quicker as it had instant torque off the line and they were also not silent with a futuristic electric whine. I hope they can expand to other countries with their whole ecosystem of battery swap stations as there was no disadvantage with having to wait recharging and as the batteries on a bike are not as big as a car you don't need machinery to swap batteries out. The Gogoro scooter had 2 batteries under the seat and still enough room for a helmet. Gogoro is so successful in Taiwan that they have produced hundreds of thousands of electric scooters and are getting almost 10% of the motorcycle market there and 90% of the electric bike market. The system has also been utilised by third party manufacturers like Yamaha to create their own electric scooters for the Taiwanese market but use the same battery system. Petrol engines won't be going anywhere soon but it's exciting seeing a choice in the market that's being lead by technology.

I actually have ear problems so if i could make my 600 soundless it would be amazing

if they could put a small alternator on it to keep throwing a charge back in to the battery you could theoretically keep going for a long time

Question if we had no issue with charging stations would that be a game changer regardless if the battery didnt advance?

One solution to both problems of electrical quietness and combustion pollution. Hydrogen Combustion engines. But sadly to this day it INCREDIBLY unstable and bit high cost to produce.

The Voynich manuscript is written in a very old turkish dielect and there are 2 men feverishly working to translate it

When you were talking about the amount of energy in gasoline, you forgot to say that a modern engine only get 40% out of that energy as power

I love the scream of an electric bike!

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