EVs have a reputation for being easier to maintain than a gas-powered car. But is that the truth? We check it out. Read our full article here: www.carmax.com/articles/electric-car-maintenance
As the video shows its no different from combustion car however with sodium ion batteries entering the market at 77$ per kw that cost goes down to nearly 40% and that assuming that the every battery cell is entirely degraded which in most case is not.
Considering the batteries are warranted for 10 years or 1000000miles I think the value in buying a second hand EV will be significant. The batteries I am referring to are the current blade batteries produced by CATL and BYD the largest battery manufacturers by far. They supply around 80% of all batteries being produced. The batteries in the Tesla Model 3 is supplied by BYD FYI. Not to mention that current battery chemistry and production technology is rapidly evolving to produce even more range, life expectancy and reduced manufacturing cost. EV battery cost is expected to fall by as much as 40% by 2028. I am a mechanic and worked in an engine overhaul shop for 10 years, take it from me, from the very first moment you start an internal combustion it’s reliability and life expectancy has begun decreasing and it’s fate is sealed. Electric motors are astoundingly better than an internal combustion engine in nearly every measure. I love engines they are a marvel of engineering but they are simply inferior to an electric motor. Battery technology is where it’s at and the rapid development of them is exciting to see.
With gas vehicles, you can shop around for a mechanic. There are only a few EV shops and even minor work requires a specially-trained software guy with specialized tools. Which do you think costs more?
The EV only needed cabin air filters and tires changed up to 150,000 and more realistically they won’t need any major maintenance or battery replacement for at least 2-300,000 miles. So why are you shopping around for techs? They don’t need tuneups. They don’t need smog checks. They don’t need oil changes or replacement parts. I think people just assume they’re a bad deal based on what they’re used to from dealing with gas powered cars.
@@craigcampbell1843 they require alot more tires and the battery depending how it was made and there you live and a bunch of other things will degrade much faster ill still stick with my 5.9 cummins and outlast any ev
@@infernoking7504it literally has less moving parts. No exhaust, no belts, no, no transmission, no spark plugs, no misfires, the only thing that stays the same is the control arms and looking RU-vid videos can still get you by.
@@jesualdocortez6426 ik it has less moving parts electric motors are amazing its the batterys and miles of copper wire and a electrical degree to fix anything major is what I have a issue with also there part of planned obsolescence so yeah.
I haven’t read too much about people replacing batteries at 150,000 miles. Old Tesla batteries seem to be good for 300,000 from what I’ve read. Plus in ten years, battery costs should be at least half of what they are now.
This video is embarrassing to watch. Tesla themselves found their batteries maintain 88% after 200k miles, and Teslas start with way more range than the Nissan Leaf this video picks. The average American driving 13.5k a year and owning the car for the average amount of time (12.5years) only hits 168k, not even close to 200k, and even if they did, the battery is still fine The director of this video avoided the elephant in the room: Tesla. And they did since it makes EVs a no brainer.
@@ItsCrap97 I’m in Miami. Average 22k per year 🥴 He is also not taking into account that Tesla does their testing under ideal circumstances, but the batteries suffer way more in extreme climates. I’ve seen plenty of battery failure here in South Florida for example.
They didn’t talk about when it gets hit and takes months to repair like the rivian 6 months and barely anyone works on them woahh rent a car for that long will hit you in your pockets hard and those ev tire cost a grip more than standard tires
@@TankaFrankFor starters, tesla was caught lying about their range. Secondly, people have bought teslas that were less than 10 years old and had to replace their batteries. Good cars should last 20 years. One guy in Norway burned his car to the ground when they told him how much a new battery pack was. What you're saying sounds like it came straight from the brochure. Based on real life stories these batteries are not nearly as good as they say. Gas continues to take the W
There are a good amount of Teslas on original batteries at over 300k miles. And many close to that with nearly 90% of the original capacity. And batteries will continue to drop in price. Put a new battery in when it dies and keep going. The drivetrain is good for 1M miles.
Easily understandable comparison. However you missed out 1 more tire change on 50K to 100K mile range. If you replace it on 30K, then the next replacement is 60K and 90K (2 replacements). Next will be 120K and 150k (2 replacements) plus battery replacement (big ouch at current price of say 10K USD or more). EV battery warranties have a number of exclusions (due to flood etc) and you maybe out of luck before it expires. Of course the good thing about EV when it reaches 150,000 miles mileage is that it has lesser carbon footprint than an ICE car.
Be realistic on brakes. I regularly see 80,000 miles out of a set of brakes. On my last car, new front discs and pads were $350, all in. Rear was about the same, so $700 Canadian for brakes in 150,000 miles. They were still in a condition to pass the Safety Inspection. That car, by the way, was 34 years old with 400,000 miles. It came off the road due to rust.
As if carbon was a problem, which it isn't. The only significant greenhouse gas is Water Vapor. CO2 isn't significant enough that eliminating it would cool the Earth. A 30% reduction in CO2 would create mass Famine, which appears to be the goal. The only carbon the powers that be really want to reduce is You.
Rented a Tesla Model 3 in LA for a few days. Incredible car with incredible tech. It really does feel like your driving in the future. The system is impressive and the acceleration pulls you into the seat. And charging the car at a supercharger for $10 is nice on the wallet. I’m a F150 owner and was a little disappointed when I had to return the car. I feel everyone should get behind the wheel of one before making an assumption on EVs - the tech really has come along ways.
I did the same in Germany. Rented a Model Y. I loved it. But the range was very poor. I went from 92-28 % SOC in 91 miles. Also, using a fast charger to charge it back to over 90soc cost 50-60 Euros. About 75 dollars. Would charge it back over 90SOC in a little over an hour. So. Drive an hour, charge an hour. Also I would lose 1-2 percent SOC over night while parked. Ambient Temp at night was around 5-10 C.
I think the likelyhood of a battery losing that much range at 150,000 miles should have been mentioned here. Tesla's batteries have been holding up really well over the years.
Completely agree the 150k mark here might be accurate for older versions of the bolt with its inferior cell chemistry and temperature management system but not for any Tesla’s I’ve seen - plenty of data out there showing this.
I did many hours of research on Prius this week: very important to clean the battery fan air filter regularly to extend battery life! The other good news is that hybrid battery prices have come down and there’s a new niche of mechanics installing rebuilt batteries at reasonable cost.
A new battery for a Toyota Venza, (hybrid) is around $3,000 currently, and has a 10 year 150,000 mile warranty. If your Tesla battery goes bad under warranty, the replacement is a refurbished battery, and if out of warranty a new battery costs close to $16,000 currently. A 10 year old Tesla will end up totaled if the battery goes bad, plus wouldn't there be an extra cost of hazardous waste disposal of the battery?
Most old EV battery even after 150K degrade less than 15% and your chance is slim it needs a new battery replacement. So many car owner trade in their car every 5 years.
And so many car owners can't afford to replace a car every 5. So then you're passing on the cost of replacement batteries to the next owner, who is least likely to afford it.
Considering they were insufficient in range to begin with and at highway speeds never get the advertised range, not even counting cold weather, 15% degradation is a catastrophe. Not to mention the 20%to 80% in a futile attempt to stave off battery degradation. If I sold an ICE vehicle as advertised with a 20 gallon tank but warn it would be damaged if you used more than 16 gallons of the tank? LOL
We also have to take into consideration that EVs seem to depreciate faster than many similar gas vehicles. That cost of depreciation should be factored in if you're going to resell the vehicle.
It seems that the high priced Tesla Model S and X take a fair depreciation hit, but take a good look at the Model 3 and Y and you won’t find one below $30 used. Also, the depreciation will lower as people figure out the real lifespan of various models of EVs. I am betting a Tesla will last a lot longer than a Chevrolet Bolt. One basic difference is Tesla cars and SUVs use Aluminum bodies, where Chevy Bolts are stamped steel as usual.
Insurance costs installing at home charger $2000:00, waiting time while charging turning an 8 hr journey into a 12 hr journey add another $400.00 each way per trip. Depreciation @ 40% p/a
To make a more appropriate comparison you needed to include total cost of fuel in this. The battery replacement might not look so bad once you have factored that in.
Once everything factored in a ev that is 5 k more cost about the same as a gas car if you replace the battery at 150k miles. But if you have someone that doesn't drive much in the house and another that drives a lot you can rotate the new cars so the new one goes to the drive a lot group and the not drive much goes to other getting full life on car without battery replacement.
Response from Copilot: To compare the costs of refueling a gas-powered car versus charging an electric car over 150,000 miles, we’ll need to consider the average fuel economy of the vehicles and the current prices for gas and electricity. For a gas-powered car, let’s assume an average fuel economy of 30 miles per gallon (MPG). If you drive 150,000 miles, you would need approximately 5,000 gallons of gas. With a gas price of $3.75 per gallon, the total cost would be $18,7501. For an electric car, assuming an average efficiency of 3.5 miles per kilowatt-hour (kWh) and an electricity price of 17.2 pence per kWh (which is about $0.22 USD per kWh), to travel 150,000 miles would cost around $5,142.862. So, in this scenario, the electric car is significantly cheaper to run over 150,000 miles compared to the gas-powered car. Keep in mind that these are estimates and actual costs can vary based on the specific vehicle model, driving conditions, and changes in fuel prices. Additionally, this comparison only considers fuel and electricity costs and does not take into account other factors such as maintenance or insurance.
I have to wonder what cars you are looking at. Tesla has an annual brake inspections and lube, also the bi annual a/c service? Where is this? Why would a gas car have twice the tire rotation cost, and why would you pay for it? Annual brake inspections are $236 alone, A/C service is over $500, drive battery can exceed the cars value. They run thru tires at 3 to 4 times the rate of gas cars. They have battery and inverter coolants. EVs still have lubricant, 12 volt batteries, wipers, air filters. Belts should last 100k these days. EV brake inspections exceed all my ICE maintenance, so do the tire replacement. But this is all moot due to Elon Musk, had realized hydrogen is way better and is switching over, and the EV hype is over.
Do this same thing, but have the numbers reflect a person who does their own car work, in their own driveway. It depends on exactly what ICE car you get, as to when the transmission will need to be replaced, and so on. My Toyota, is over 170,000 miles, with no transmission issues, and the only mechanical parts replaced being the alternator.
@@richardgodinez8497 In this example they are picking cars with same price, but the Bolt is more like a Corolla. I mean, they are picking cars from different classes. It's like comparing a Tesla to a Camry, The Tesla is a higher class and should be pitted against Lexus. I looked up the prices here in Canada, Corolla is $27K, Bolt is $42K. So it's $15K more expensive. Anyone can twist numbers to what they want to see, but at the moment, I'm an average worker but I still can't afford a new EV car and I certainly won't waste my hard earned money on a used EV that will need a $15K battery soon. I like EV's but just can't afford them... yet.
I'm 49 years old, and I do my own maintenance most of the time. I just prefer gas power still. Cost can be kept down with DIY, and understanding the older systems just feels better. An Eav would need a whole new set of tools,Know how, and I'm just too old
I had a 96 Pontiac Grand Am I parked it over 300,000 miles I don’t remember changing any belts. Brakes on the other hand about every 30,000 miles. With the structural battery packs on the model Y I believe it is not replaceable at all the car becomes scrap. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
When I had my 2019 mustang I looked at the cost of replacing the motor. It’s $14,580 new and that doesn’t include shipping, installation and then all the setup. Replacing a battery is very close to the same cost as replacing a motor. Even the eco boost is nearly $7k just for the motor. And yes you can get a used motor for cheaper. But looking at real cost Apples to Apple new replacement it’s very close to the same cost for both.
@@majac3356 Exactly the same as a battery. The chances of anyone in either needing a change either is rare. I beat the crap out of my 93, mustang GT, 2015 EcoBoost Mustang that was Modified and my 2019 GT which was also modified, now 3 Mach E later still have not had to Replace anything that large. Again its rare My 2021 MME cost me $25 for its maintenance, 2022 Cost the same and I suspect my 2023 will be in the say range.
@@SerendipitousProducts technically you have to replace it if you needed a bigger range because of range loss resulting in people replacing battery. But I bet like my house hold versus others some person drives only like 50 miles a week while the other will drive 250+ miles a week so you can play the rotate car game every time you all get a new car so not having to replace battery.
This video makes the statement, "studies show that electric vehicles cost less to maintain than their gas-powered counterparts". Precisely which "studies" and which EV models is this referring to? Most EV models that exist today don't have a track record anywhere near long enough to support the statement. Also, the purchase price of EV's (even minus government rebates) is so exorbitant vs gas powered cars that the total cost of owning an EV is higher.
Nissan Leaf was released in 2013. Mitsubishi had a mass produced EV on the market back in 2008 or 2009. That's a good amount of data to go off I'd have thought. As for the price, they're too expensive from new, however, I've just bought a 2020 Renault Zoe with 13k on the clock for £10800. My 2020 Mazda 2 with 23k on the coock which was involved in an accident had a book price of £9900. After driven both I can say the Zoe is the better deal for a used car if you're not driving more than 180 miles a day.
I've been researching cost of ownership between ICE and EVs, and with the help of AI I did a rough estimate from info found online between a Honda Accord(gas & hybrid) and a Tesla Model 3. Assuming that I pay 30k for either vehicle, I found that the Hybrid is slightly cheaper to own than the gas version over the 15 years. It is the cost of insurance and battery replacement that unfortunately kills it for the EVs at the moment. The gas ends up being around 29-30k cheaper than the Tesla The Hybrid ends up being around $3k-4k cheaper than the gas
Odd seen many things showing model 3 cheaper over x period of time. My insurance is also only 10 bucks a month more expensive with an EV versus gas so I also wonder if different states charging a super EV premium just because.
The video did not compare the price of gas to electric. If your power in your electric vehicle at home during the night we get electric prices are cheapest. You’re saving a lot of money per mile on the price of fuel.
I have had my EV for over 5 years…. No breaks , no oil changes, one tire change, 2 services one at 2 yr and 4 years at about $250 per service. You are also counting the time waiting and going for oil changes. I don’t know how many Saturdays I wasted waiting for an oil change. About 6% range loss so far. I think you may be overstating the battery replacements and making it sound scary for people who do not drive EVs and are already skeptical and scared.
Consider the environmental impact of making a gas vs EV. Then consider that a gas car can be worked on by people with general mechanical experience, but not an EV. And consider the environmental impact of disposal of both. I have no problem with EVs. I just don’t want one. It’s a personal choice everyone should make. I think we all know that the government is pushing EVs very hard and their data might not be the most reliable. I say, be honest with the data and let the market do the rest. Give the climate change mess a rest, and let people decide what’s best for them.
The studies have been done on environmental impact. EVs win over the lifecycle. Gas cars lose because they burn fuel. Technology changes and ppl adapt. Having both in the market brings out competition and innovation.
That battery dropping to 70% capacity after 150k miles is an assumption that kinda came out of nowhere. In the video they said they take the number 70% because that's what manufacter warranty is, but it has nothing to do with 150k miles.
I currently have a 2022 Honda Accord Sport for $32,000 and I’m leasing it so, I want to replace it, next year, for a 2024 Acura Hybrid or Honda Accord Hybrid.
Agree i shop around for a mechanic. Most maintenance on ICE I do myself. I have lifetime brake pads from Autozone so I replace them in 1/2 hour. Oil changes cost $50 at jiffylube. EVS can be carostrophic to have repaired. You cant shop around for EV repairs because you go thru tesla or the warranty is gone.
GM Ultium battery is composed of several easy to replace, inexpensive modules. The entire battery would almost never need replacing, just a module or two. Also, most ICE engines would never see 150k miles if oil only changed every 10k.
There’s a lot of factors that you can’t add into this. Not all vehicles need to be fixed at 150k. We also don’t know what fuel is going to cost in 10 years compared to electricity. If I was going to guess, I’d say fuel is going to continue to get more and more expensive while batteries and electricity will continue to get cheap.
A better comparison would be a hybrid vs an EV. A Toyota Prius lasts a lot longer than 150,000 miles. 10,000 mile oil change intervals will not get you to 150,000 miles. That will shorten the life of your engine.you also did not factor in the battery being shot !
A friend has a Tesla with 150,000 miles and yes range is less at 265 miles on a 2017 Model S. It stills looks and drives like the day he bought it. I've replaced batteries on several products that were meant to go to the trash heap when the battery failed. Those things are still going strong so I'm thinking what if I replace the battery in my electric car. It's cheaper than a new car and prevents it from ending up in a landfill and saves on the carbon footprint.
And this is in perfect conditions. Factor in nature and real life. And gas will exceed ev in all factors. Taking a vacation somewhere? Im sure you dont wanna stop and wait at multiple superchargers. Towing anything with ev? Watch range drop to about 50% or less. Now.... new gas powered vehicles have planned obscelecence built in. But a real mechanic wont burn that much in repair costs. Especially if the vehicle is taken care of vs running it into the ground.
"Towing anything with ev? Watch range drop to about 50% or less." Gee, when I hook up my travel trailer to my F-150 Ecoboost, the fuel economy drops from 21 mpg to 9 mpg -- that also is over 50%. The mpg drop for an EV vs. an ICE vehicle when towing is about the same due to physics, but theproblem is the much shorter initial range of the EV.
Tesla battery warranties may be 100k miles but Tesla batteries can go 250,000 or more. There are not too many data points since Tesla didn’t achieve mass production until 2018 or so, but Model S/X taxis report 400-500k miles. And that’s with lithium-nickel-manganese-cobalt-aluminum chemistry. The newer LFP (lithium-iron-phosphate) chemistries show DOUBLE life testing in the lab. They are expected to last 1 million miles - the car will wear out first! Contrary to the case of a battery powered flashlight, in the future you may keep the battery and replace the car instead.
Less than 1% of evs have needed a high voltage battery replacement. I expect over time that number will go up . But they either fail very early , or they last a really long time .
If you consider an oil change is most all you'll need to get done that isn't part of an ev. For close to the first 5 years. Some anti freeze as well but many ev do use it too. Other then that, there isn't a ton of things.
Sodium ion batteries are coming soon with really high energy (mileage) and higher number of charge cycles and safety with a significantly lower price tag. Future is clearly for EV. Given the electrical power infrastructure is established enough to keep up. Also EVs keep going down in cost. Thanks for the great video team!❤
Coming soon has been mentioned for quite awhile now. It stores less and weighs more which is why its probably not there on the market for cars as space is limited in cars. Another issue is mass production is needed.If used in a car it would bring the price down by 25% as the materials are cheaper. Also safer as less risks of fire. The range would be less compared to Lithium. So the jury is still out on whether that will replace lithium completely in cars. It has use in data centres and commercial vehicles like fork lifts. Maybe some company might build a lower cost car with lesser range. Typically people want more range.
You're right. I believe I meant aluminium ion. Sodium ions also come with some inherent characteristics that would unfortunately complicate the engineering design of power circuits.. but it's surprisingly well received in China as it's currently running many of their EVs. Probably makes good economical sense to them as it's likely their priority.
I think by the time 15 years is up, a replacement battery pack will be much less than it is today. The price of lithium has dropped significantly, and as retired packs are recycled, that influx of materials will cause a glut of the base materials, making production of new cells a much less expensive operation. Still, after 15 years, will this generation of EVs be ready to be retired due to the advances in design Tesla and others come up with during the next 15 years? I bet there will be way better EVs to have as primary vehicles, but just like the classic cars we have today, there may be a nostalgia that develops, but electronic tech of late, does not age well like the Old Time antique radios did. How many people are hanging onto a 25” Color TV as opposed to a 1941 Zenith Radio?
After 15 years you will be not able to buy original manufacturer battery. I am sure you will be able to replace battery with the China made equivalent for very low price. The only thing is, as the battery will work two full charges.
I believe they don't have anymore brain cells because they put their faces into exhaust fumes and took a big whiff then decided to to complain. I don't think people have any smarts left to rebuild their cars but hold onto your knowledge of engine building, it WILL be useful when they struggle to get past paywall subscriptions for power steering. :)
I was told $20,000 for new battery on some ev battery replacement, and dealership try to weasel out of as many warranty clams,because manufacturers refuse them
@@robinsooran8188 New gas car computer repairs if it gets faulty is getting insane. Not really the ev fault more of right to repair is dying and evs has loop wholes where they don't have to be as nice as gas cars in that regard. But gas cars are adding more and more tech to try to get around certain repair requirements that was placed on gas cars in the past.
@@robinsooran8188 old gas cars, but I have notice new cars needing way more repairs then older counter parts. The computer/electronics on these new gas cars has more issues than normal as well. Then you also have to look at which gas cars yes Toyota last forever but chrysler would def die faster then an EV. Overall bad evs are worst than bad gas, good evs are around the middle of gas cars for how long they last. Once / if they get better battery tech then evs will just last longer then all gas because of how durable electric motors are. I got electric motors that are over 50 years old. Overall personally only like older cars/ trucks and new evs nothing else makes sense to me.
When the battery goes then trade it in idk why it’s a big deal. There’s a little percentage of people that keep their car longer than three years anyways.
I think it’s also worth noting that we’ve been mastering petrol engines much longer than EVs in terms of large scale production so EV batteries are only getting better and better. They will hypothetically be able to outlast the car soon with new battery chemistries. That being said, if you want to buy a great cheap reliable car that won’t require much maintenance you should still buy a Toyota. If you want to be an EV adopter and get that great acceleration at a normal price, but more expensive than a Toyota Corolla, get an EV like an LFP rear wheel drive Tesla Model 3. That should last you a very long time assuming you are doing the basics of battery maintenance (not letting the battery sit at too low a state of charge for too long). Otherwise just wait and the cost of batteries will reduce, the battery degradation will be improved, the battery life will improve, and the source of electricity will become more sustainable. By then, it will be silly not to consider daily driving an EV.
So what about a Toyota Hybrid, which uses regenerative braking, and no belts to replace, and gets very high mpg's. The battery costs about $3,000 to replace if it's outside it's 10 year 150,000 mile warranty?
@@beachcan Interesting how many opinions there are on the internet from people who just don't know. Engineering plays a major role in reliability. A mild hybrid is the most reliable vehicle type. I suppose you would rather have a 1.2 liter turbocharged 3 cylinder with the timing belt immersed in oil? According to Consumer Reports, sedans, hatchbacks, and coupes are among the most reliable vehicle categories, with an average predicted reliability score of 57 out of 100. Hybrid cars are also considered reliable, with members reporting 26% fewer problems on average than gas-only cars. However, Consumer Reports also notes that electric vehicles (EVs) and full-size pickups have the lowest average reliability scores.
@@karllued i was an aeroplane engineer for 2 years before fully embracing cars where i have been a mechanic for more than a decade. 'Consumer reports' my ass. Also why tf are you naming car body types? Hilarious
The survey was based on more than 330,000 respondents. People with hybrids have 26% fewer problems. That's significant. An electric oil pump and an electric water pump are running before the engine is started. If you don't think engineering is key, explain why Ford is leading the industry in recalls? Or are you interested in facts?
But lets say you pay $10,000 for a New Battery. Youre good for another 150,000 miles roughly. Where as in a Gas car at 150,000 miles you might need a new transmission or something else expensive. And No one speaks on it but you may need a new Engine after 200,000 miles. That could be $5,000 - $10,000 so they keep you paying the same amount just when you pay is the difference.
EVs make sense as long as they're under warranty Once they're out of warranty or near the end of warranty you start getting hit with massive repair bills because nobody but the dealership works on them because of the batteries. And when you go to trade in or sale your EV, you quickly realize they are almost completely and utterly worthless and you have absolutely no equity in them because their battery is such a massive liability. Plus they just don't age well. A lot of gas cars can run decades just because they don't get high mileage use. An EV battery degrades regardless of use.
Good presentation in ROUTINE SERVICE less maintenance. After the warranty when electronics problems arises, charges for repairs are street time that might give you a heart attack. 😂 Advice is keep your old car until your dying day. 😮
The conclusion is fairly poor. Go in to depth on how often transmission, engine, turbos etc last and replacement cost. Then take into account probability of failure and cost and give us a risk based approach. Not a cheap one liner 'combustion can have problems or their own'. We're trying to make informed decisions here. That ending was useless.
So replacing a Battery vs replacing a Engine seems a little cheaper with electric vs a car engine. Because after 150,000 miles the engine will go bad by having belt issues and all.
In addition to the battery, aren't the electronic and electrical components also an issue for the EV? I know ICE cars are also becoming technically infused, but the the EV is stillore complex. Also, I can't exactly find a trusted mechanic who would charge me reasonable prices to fix my EV, unlike my ICE car.
Rented a Model Y while in Germany. I loved it. But the range was very poor. I went from 92-28 % SOC in 91 miles. Also, using a fast charger to charge it back to over 90soc cost 50-60 Euros. About 75 dollars. Would charge it back over 90SOC in a little over an hour. So. Drive an hour, charge an hour. Also I would lose 1-2 percent SOC over night while parked. Ambient Temp at night was around 5-10 C. So, Cost to operate is around 75 dollars an hour on just Electrons. With Insurance, tires, brakes and such and being that this car is so freekin heavy, you will be going through brakes and tires fast!! And the car costs over 73k Euros or around 85k dollars. So. Adding that in, the cost per hour to operated or cost per mile is off the scale!!! Someone do the math for me!! Yikes!!! Now. If you go and buy a used Toyota Camry for around 5 grand or less, well. Do that math on that. Also with the Camry you can take a trip to see grandma and get there in a day or 2. The Tesla. Well.. Lets just say.. You can do it if you want to make the trip to Grandmas a major part of the trip! Basically , the Tesla is a rich mans toy/commuter/virtual signal emitter. Also EV's are not as efficient as a ICV. Axiomatic
the hell did you do? floor it literally everywhere? the range in even the base model y (REAL WORLD, not just EPA bullshit) is about 180, and that's the base model with the smallest battery, if you get even on trim up, the long range, that goes up to 276, again, REAL WORLD, and even if you absolutely max out the model y with everything, it still wouldn't be 85K USD as for efficiency, ICE is not even close to as efficient as an EV, full stop, even the most efficient ICE vehicle doesn't even make it to 1 mile per kilowatt, meanwhile the least efficient EV is still over 2 miles per kilowatt, it's just that EV's have a smaller "fuel tank" in comparison, there is a crap ton of unused energy potential in gasoline maybe do some REAL research instead of believing the first thing you read on fox news or facebook or whatever bullshit article you read
@@mysteryboyee What? You have no idea wth you are talking about. A P85 when equated to an ICE car gets around 16mpg. Which is about right for such a heavy car. Get cracking. Then come back. Thx.
Two conserns. If the car cost 2x as much to buy up front is that a savings or a loss over all. 2nd phone battery and chargers change quickly i worry abit about the car being the old styal battery and not being charge able at the upgraded station when the inabital advances come. Added idea personal one person bike lane like cars electric camuters and gas being your work hores bigger car for bad weather,jobs, and trips.
As usual, EV promoters leave out details…. like the cost of recharging i.e. cost of having a home plug installed and the cost of an EV charging station on the road. A Wall Street Journal writer rented an EV from Boston to New Orleans and stopped 18 time to recharge… gas is a 15-20 minute stop while an EV stop is at least several hours. Bottom line, she said an EV was off her list of things she’d tolerate!
She must have been charging on the slowest chargers on the road level 2….I typically stop about 15-30 minutes at fast chargers but don’t do that much at all unless I am on a road trip or long drive. Otherwise just plug in at home. Charging at home costs approximately $13 ( at $0.16/kWh) for full ~310 mile 75 kWh battery.
Recharging depends on your area. In California it’s cheaper to charge than to refuel. You can charge on a standard outlet. If you need faster charging, a 220v or Tesla wall charger depends on the distance of your vehicle and main breaker box. I installed a 220v outlet and spent $700. I save about $200 a month over my gas car. If I rent a car for cross country, then I’ll get the car with the best range and mpg. It’s all about being smart lol
Wake up mate my 2011 Mazda 6 has never had to have the brake pads renewed the tyres last for over 60,000kms and the filters well minimal replacement items. Two new batteries $450 insurance costs - NOT mentioned in your video EV's are so expensive to insure - WHEN you can find an insurance company to take you on - my Mazda is around $1000 per year. After owning my car since 2011 and 167,000kms still going strong on it's second set of tyres and I am no slouch!! Oh yes and I have no problems finding a mechanic to do my car's servicing.
Teslas at 40-60k miles are having coolant motor seals leaking fluid into the motor and destroying them costing owners thousands!!! In areas where they have a lot of water especially salt water getting by the battery hermetic seals causing the battery packs to go into arc weld fires!!! Yikes!!!!
Using a Tesla battery as example. The degradation of the battery is not down to 70% on the average. On the average after 10 years of life you still have over 85%.
Don’t forget the cost of insurance is more on BEVs than it is on ICE cars. Tesla body work is notoriously expensive. Not to mention that, in the practical world nearly all your charging is going to be done at home, which means that you have a single supplier for your power. Don’t like the rates? Tough, better move to a new home in a different market. Care to take a guess how many times the (highly regulated) utility has LOWERED the cost of electricity in the past 100 years?
I got dumber watching this. I've owned a Chevy electric car since 2015, and there's unequivocally no way I could have spent less with a gas car. I've saved thousands of dollars. If you have to get to work every day, drive electric and save money. Oh, also, they are zippy. Super fun to drive. Smarter can = fun
Very unfair comparison. You should’ve compared a hybrid with an EV. Nobody I know debates whether an EV costs less to maintain than a full petrol vehicle. And if you’re replacing an engine or transmission at 150k, that’s just a crappy car (probably a Nissan or Mercedes). This video was literally useless.
I'll keep my gas. I'm not paying 10k for a battery that would be 20k already on the jeep. i own that's 250k miles. It's already a new car at that point, and the jeep starts and drives just fine
The comparison I don't think is that realistic. Most of the cost on the gas powered cars are never spent, And the price comparisons are in an ideal world, and most people do not drive in an ideal world. (Who changes their cabin air filter, at the ridiculous prices?). Another huge factor is that EVs do not perform well in extremely hot or extremely cold weather. In my opinion they still have a long way to go before the technology perfects them. And in California good luck charging them during the rolling blackouts.😂
I live in California, no issues with blackouts and charging. Ive spent less money on my EV over my 4Runner. Things break more often on gas cars once they pass about 100k. I’ll see how my Tesla holds up after 100k
If you need to charge at charging stations a lot then an EV probably isn't for you. If you're journeys are like mine, however, you can just plug it in at home and never have the need ti visit a charging station.
@@martinwebster8702agreed. People need to understand EVs are most beneficial when you can charge at home. Just like owning any type of vehicle, do your research.