She sleeps with his brother and leaves Stefan for Damon and then says to Stefan “aRe yOu tRying to punish meeee🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️” when she noticed he finally stops paying attention to her
@@andorianthomas2145 yeah.. he said she's the love of his life. I know Elena doesn't deserve that but idk why it felt good to hear that❤ and when she tells Damon she loves him and he was all teary eyed.. I liked Delena but felt bad for him
@@andorianthomas2145 it might be a lie everyone knows he loves Elena even when he was with Caroline but it just feels good to hear him man up and say "you don't know what I look like when am not in love with you" because throughout the show everything they did was to protect elena so it's good too Stephan stick up for himself ya no😘
@@stellaaa4762 but ikr Bc when Stefan lost his humanity instead of saying u will lose everyone u ever loved she said you will lose be like bih NObODY CaRes bout U
Well everything did revolve around her for a long time. And do you even understand the meaning of self centered and pick me?? She wouldn't have asked them hundreds of times to save others instead of her if she was self centered. She wouldn't have died to save her friends life, she wouldn't have told the hybrids to torture her instead of Caroline neither she would have gone to the prison world to save Bonnie and she wouldn't have gone to sleep for 60 years so that her friend could live her life if she was self centered. You all would just speak rubbish to keep up with this Elena hate trend. I know saying any of this wouldn't make you understand anything unless you try to keep a neutral perspective and then watch the series again...
Bronte Lee Exactly the way they wrote Elena was terrible..she’s constantly contradicting herself..she claims to care so much about her friends and family but falls in love with the dude who’s attempted murder on her brother TWICE
Exactly!! She is always whining about she needs to make choices about how she will live but took away choice of his brother not once but twice!! She's a real hypocrite
The part where Damon calls Stefan out for sleeping with Rebecca and they all stand silently until Jeremy just starts screaming and tears his shirt open all dramatically will never not be funny to me
“I compelled a student to do surgery on Stefan’s niece and you found a way to make this about you God you truly have a gift Elena” couldn’t have said it better myself
She was relating to Caroline. If Elena was simply telling Caroline to not make horrible decisions, the same people claiming Elena was "making it all about herself" would instead be saying that "Elena doesn't know what she's talking about". People respond better to other's who have gone through the same thing and made the same mistakes, than someone who hasn't. Anyone with clear eyes and a non-bias point of view would see that Elena was simply trying to relate to Caroline to help Caroline see that what she was doing was a bad idea, and not "making it about herself".
Sometimes I honestly feel like they just feel bad for her because every time someone say they don't like they be like,"ShE LoSt EvEryOnE".. okay the entire marvel universe lost a lot and you don't see people liking them based of their trama,just who this person acts like.
I think most of us, hell the majority of us watched TVD at a time when we were really young. So yeah the targeted demographic didn’t understand the hidden plots and just realizing it years later.
i don't get it. she demonstrated several times that she was willing to sacrifice herself for others, . yes her character has flaws but that makes her so much more interesting then if she would just always think the right thing. This goody two shoes characters are boring and unrelatable as hell
@@nadinefeiler9204 Yeah but sometimes the self sacrifice was totally not necessary, it was just her ignoring the advice of others that were trying to make sure she survives and getting them into deeper trouble.
@@nadinefeiler9204 she was willing, but she never did, she killed so many vampires when she killed kol, she is a self centered manipulative hypocrite girl, katherine suffered so much which made her evil(and connects to the real world), bonnie is selfless and sacrifices everything she had, and caroline, she cares more than anyone, she is def the most relatable character in the show alongside bonnie
@@nizjahsmith5730 no, when someone tries to save her, someone dies, like bonnie’s mom when stefan & damon tried to save her before rebekah tried to kill her.
@@nizjahsmith5730 how? she inconsiderate & a hypocrite. one min it’s “yea let’s kill kol 😃” then it’s “no cause many will die 🥺" & then still end up killing kol anyways- same w/ the rebekah situation she stabbed rebekah multiple times but when rebekah does it back she evil... 💀 & the show itself makes elena the center of attention as well w/ having caroline MOTHER die just to turn around have have an happy scene with elena right after.
@@aavi. Omggg imagine this: elena becomes more evil as the series goes on, meanwhile katherine who's supposed to be ''evil" starts showing compassion and changes as the seasons go on and by the end of the series elena becomes like katherine, and katherine becomes like elena.
@@leedavies2997 Her presence is,her body,the toll she still has on the characters. Just because she isn't talking or Nina is really there. That character still stinks of a bad smell in season 7.
"Look I know he abused you but I'M HAPPY." I'm dead. My favorite one is the season finale when Stefan is talking to her about something important before he straight up sacrifices himself to save everyone and she's like "but is Damon okay???"
Look jeremy ik damon killed you , and look caroline and Bonnie I also know he abused and tried to kill u both but atleast I'm happy and also let's forget the fact that he tried to turn me into a vampire , acted like he owned me , killed my friend aaron but still I'm happy and idgaf about u all so please don't say anything
@@kezewill5883I mean, it makes sense considering Damon was both her boyfriend and the man she loved, so it makes sense she’d be most concerned about him at the moment
Bonnie and Caroline were literally the charm, strength and attraction of the show.. they were the one to carry 8 seasons on their shoulders.. and Elena was busy looking around for things which were not about her.. and still so many people manage to love her more than Caroline
@@deadpooldan9862 It's understandable why Elena did it but it's also understandable why Rebekah tried to kill her the moment she got undaggered. I mean Elena never apologised to her for betraying her trust and literally and figuratively stabbing her in the back. That's the least Elena could have done
@@anyabajaj07 Elena did apologize, while Rebekah was desiccating. Rebekah also tried to kill her the first time they met, if you remember, so it’s not like she didn’t have that coming, especially because they wanted Klaus dead at the time. I get why Rebekah wanted to kill her, but it’s not like she’s innocent, it’s purely revenge while Elena did it to kill Klaus Edit: also, that scene where Elena tells Stefan Rebekah tried to kill her? That’s completely understandable why she’d be so hurt and worried because Rebekah literally killed her, and Stefan should have the decency to not sleep with her the same day she tried to kill all of them. Idc that Elena slept with Damon, she fell for him, while Stefan did it to spite her. There’s no possible world where Stefan would actually sleep with the woman who killed the girl he loved. Even when he slept with Katherine, that’s out of character too, not because he loved Elena, but because it’s just not who he is, that’s more a Damon thing to do. Keep in mind, she wasn’t jealous at all when Stefan started dating Caroline, because Caroline never did anything like what Rebekah and Katherine did, so it was more hurt about the people rather than the act
@@deadpooldan9862 If Elena daggered Rebekah before that episode, it would have been valid because Rebekah did attack Elena when they first met. But in that episode, Elena literally pretended to be her friend. Rebekah was sharing her deepest thoughts and was vulnerable and Elena chose to stab her. The betrayal wasn't just stabbing her, it was pretending to be her friend while doing it.
@@anyabajaj07 meh, Rebekah’s no innocent, and Elena wasn’t pretending, she just didn’t want to risk Klaus not dying, which Rebekah should understand but instead acts all petty
“She tried to kill me” she always used that excuse against people for Rebekah and I love that it never worked because people really didn’t care that much Edit: I just thought of another one: “she tried to kill me” and so have half of the other characters on the show, Beks isn’t special for trying to kill you Elena
The fact she refused to apologize to caroline because she didn’t want to feel bad makes her the worst. Caroline should’ve stopped being her friend after that.
No she shouldn’t Caroline is a judge mental hypocrite. She says hurtful things to Elena all the time and tells all of her Business. Like when Matt said something to Caroline she said I’ve Already been through enough and I don’t need your judgement clouding all over me.But Elena never told any of her secrets yes Elena is self centered and things everything’s about her But Caroline is a terrible friend and I’m surprised they made it that far tbh.
He only started doing it after she started seeing Damon out of anger. When he was with her he would cosign her self-absorbtion that the reason i liked her with Damon because half the time he didn't care how Elena wanted him to solve the problem he did the way he wanted to. Stefan only acted that way was when we was trying to turn her human again because he didn't like her as vampire.
@@lstarsabb girl he liked there for who she was yes he would have wanted her as human but he did care what she was and Mabey He corrected her because it wasn’t always about her like it’s OK for them to stand up to her without y’all always saying he only did it because he felt mad like he did it because not everything is about her
Stefan was still in love with elena...his feelings were back on... You cant just stop loving someone from 1 sec to another... He was just hurt and very, very, very angry...rightfully so... So he probably didnt want to show her he still feels for her... He knew that if she would know that she would use that to her advantage just like she always did
@@JS-lo5pf he wasn’t dealing with her bullshit tho he loved her but he new she was manipulative and Damon didn’t know so technically he wasn’t inlove with her that much at the time cuz he was done with her bullshit
Yeah, because she LITERALLY killed her, and that day tried to kill all of them. At least Damon became a better person. Keep in mind STEFAN never once blamed her for falling for Damon, he blamed himself for pushing her away
@@flopsyaok not on TVD, she literally never even apologized for what she did to Elena, just that Matt was in the truck. Stefan was wrong for sleeping with her, and she had every right to be upset about it
@@ccvv1119 no she didn’t, Kol was gonna kill her and Jeremy, and threatened them before. Rebekah didn’t kill Elena as revenge, she did it because she was afraid of Alaric, Elena didn’t deserve to die
I love it when Rebeca says, “it’s really annoying how everyone wants to bend over backwards to save your life, but it makes you the perfect hostage” Thx for all the likes ❤️
she truly is the worst friend. like your friends mother just died and yet you STILL find a way to make it about you. not to mention she knew damon abused caroline in s1 and she still chose to date him like girl what
Omgg yes she annoyed me in that scene. "Ik you guys have issues but im happy" she really thinks that everything that happened are jus "issues" that's so inconsiderate especially because she was judging caroline when her and damon first went out. She truly was a horrible friend. And I still can't believe she told caroline that she wasn't getting an apology like what... You did and said horrible things to your friends and suddenly you don't thing you owe them an apology....😬 She is so hypocritical and that's really what pisses me off
At first Caroline was against Elena being in love with Damon but later on she just wanted Elena to be happy and let her do what she wanted . If Elena is a bad friend for that , then is Blair a bad friend for dating Chuck when he tried to rape Serena in the first episode of season 1 ?
The problem isn't that she's self-centered, the problem is that the show is trying to portray her as this sweet down to earth girl next door, whilst also portraying her as the most selfish person in the show with it not even being truly addressed besides a few moments where the writers seem to have a temporary self-awareness of the character they're writing before getting hit with the stupid again and insisting she's some sort of pure soul. There are a lot of great things about this show and universe, Elena ironically isn't one of them, I was fine with her character initially but as I'm watching more of it, her nasty side is becoming more and more apparent. I was flabbergasted when she mentioned committing Vampire genocide on Kol's line as flippantly as one would discuss the daily errands they're about to run, all for her own gain. Christ. With characters like Klaus on the other hand, you know he's bad, but that's not all he is. As you learn more about him in this show and in The Originals you realize that deep down he's just a broken soul who's been hurt severely by the people who were supposed to love and cherish him, and so it has led him to develop a paranoid, ruthless, and cold hearted outlook on the world. While you hate what he does at times, you understand him, even sympathize with him, many others like myself grow to love him, because you know there is good in there, it's just been almost swallowed by a thousand years of heartache, betrayal, survival, grief, anger, and hatred. In the end, his last act of sacrificing himself for the sake of his daughter and anyone else who would potentially share the same fate as her proves what a good heart he ultimately had, buried under the darkness. It'll never cease to befuddle me how on one hand they could write a contradicting mess of a character like Elena, yet also write a brilliant and well executed character like Klaus Mikaelson.
I love how without knowing it, the writers read themselves to filth by trying to play down Bonnie and at the same time made her the most loved character. Bahahaha
@@babyboo2652 Yeah she said that but she had the illusion of free will as Julie Plec (the writer) said. all what she said or did while being sired to Damon was influenced by the sirebond and she couldn't tell what was real, even if you say but she was compelled by Rebekah, she was compelled to say what she thinks, and what she thinks is influenced by the sire bond even if she doesn't feel it. I'm not saying she didn't have feelings for Damon because she did, but the sirebond was the reason that made Elena sleep & get into a relationship with Damon so fast after leaving Stefan.
farah ahmed what illusion? the sirebond controlled her actions, not her feelings. she had to do what damon said. but damon didn’t say “elena, have sex with me”. those were her own actions. stop sugar couting elena lol
@@babyboo2652 lol did you even understand what I said? i never said damon told her to have sex with her, but she was influenced to please damon in any way, so this definitely affected her original feelings towards him and how would she know she's being affected? This isn't an assumption, the writer herself said that she has the illusion of free will, as in she thinks shes doing this bec she really wants to but she actually is influenced greatly from the sirebond. I'm not saying every single thing she did through that time isn't real but a huge part of it that pushed her to get with Damon so fast was the influence of the sirebond with one thing leading into another. if you search it up you'll find the writer talking about elena thinks she's acting on her true self and doesn't know she's affected. I'm not sugar coating Elena, without even the writer's tweet it, anyone with a brain would notice the sudden change in elena's behavior towards damon when she became a vampire wasn't normal. She felt everything damon says is correct and this affected her to get with him that fast. I honestly don't care if you aren't convinced, this is just logic lol cause it seems like not a lot of people actually understand the influence of the sirebond. If you remember the girl in New Orleans that Damon also sired, it seemed like she was obsessed with pleasing him and choosing him over everyone else. Have a good day x
@@farahahmed1482 that would explain why in the books she ends up with Stefan. Have you read them? Did she figure this out in the book? And by she, I mean Elena
I stopped watching when they killed Kol. I was already losing patience and he was my favorite character. So it was just like 'Nope, fuck this, I'm out.'
Seriously she did nothing but broke everyone's hearts and she got the happy ending. I can't even with the writers of this show. Show was good till season 3
@@shirleylisanna seriously poor Bonnie can never catch a break, idek how she gets up in the mornings. Also Caroline lost Stefan legit on her wedding day 😭😭
@@KoolKukumber it's all bcoz Julie plecs obsession with damon and delena . She ruined the show . If Kevin Williamson was there tvd will be the successful show ever
Don't forget Elena justifying Kols death to Klaus, his brother, by saying, Kol tried to chop HER brothers arms off! Choping off someones arm is bad of course, but Kol even said, that he will save Jeremys life. She basically told Klaus "I murdered your brother, but he wanted to hurt MY brother. And weren't you angry at him anyway?"
I killed ur brother because he tried to hurt my brother because we set a trap to kill him to get a cure for ourselves and wanted to raise a 2000 year immortal
Honestly 8:15 scene not only made it clear that Elena is a self centered person but she is also a pick me like literally she told Caroline that even if he abused her, he always treated me right so there's no problem. Elena reminds me of those "bestfriends" who will be friends with your bullies in highschool just because they didn't treat her like garbage like they did to you and be like "well they are nice to me so idc"
She was annoyed at Stefan and Damon for liking Rebekah because ‘she tried to kill her.’ But she can be with Damon after he abused Bonnie and Caroline. Like.... Whaa
@@meeresperle6878 plus he killed Bonnie’s mom, threatened to kill Jeremy if Bonnie didn’t pull a witch out of her ass to find Max whatever-field- which Bonnie probably would’ve been fine helping with anyway- and I’m pretty sure threatens to hurt her on multiple occasions if she doesn’t do what he wants
I just realized how SELFISH of a decision Elena made by having Jeremy kill Kol. She had no idea what went on in the lives of the vampires Kol turned. She was just ok with having all of them desiccate.
and the fact everyone always said she wa sso compassionate and selfless pls there is so much blood on her hands but she only cares when it’s human blood. all that just for a cure for herself
@@estherisgone she cares only about her family and friends, as does everybody for their own, she is not selfless nor compassionate, i really started getting hella annoyed by elena in early sessions, i mean its the writers mistake because truth is absolutely everything ever was about elena, and I don't understand how most people feel like Elena is sooo compassionate and good and pure and I don't even know what anymore, its so disrespectful towards all the other characters that have suffered just the same as elena and yet made way better and selfless decisions through the show, like there is soo much wrong things with elena im not even going to start
@@ElysianLilith seriously I don't get why the brothers even like her, she was no different or special than any of the girls , she didn't have any talent or anything on the other hand Caroline did everything in school , atleast she had a personality...
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When Stefan lost his memories, that was the best decision for him. He was so at peace and ofc she found a way to torture him about what they used to have even thought, she is with his brother like wtf.
elena has bella from twilight energy except i can actually put up with bella and i want to throw my phone across the room every time elena opens her damn mouth
EXACTLY! Bella actually respects peoples differences, knows how to stop talking and sometimes tries to fight her own battles, Elena always opens her mouth, she doesn’t respect peoples differences and she relies on people to do stuff for her
LITEEALLY. Bella hated it when Edward and Jacob fought over her and wanted to fight against the newborns. Elena expects people to fight over her and save her. I actually like Bella even though people think Kristen can’t act but she wasn’t this whiny. she might’ve acted awkward and wanted to be a vampire lol but bitch never wanted people to fight over her.
Katherine was my first big crush when I was 11 years old (didn't noticed it because I didn't knew I am a lesbian) but after few years when I fallen in love with my best friend it was all so clear to me! Katherine for me was the most beautiful, strong and sassy woman I have ever seen and her story was so heartbreaking, I was sooo obssesed with her. I can see how people don't like her (well she is a villian) but I watched this show ONLY for her and I watched only the seasons she was in. Elena on the other hand was the most annoying character in all TV series history I SWEAR and I couldn't stand her for a second!! This was always making my mom confused because well she was played by the same actress XD
Elena is literally the definition of pick me, selfish and self-centered... she’s the worst main character on a show ever. She was tolerable in the first few seasons, but once she became a vampire she annoyed me so much. I was hoping they’ll just kill her off, but nooo they really brought her back AND gave her a happy ending, when no one else got one. (Bonnie was the one who deserved the happy ending, not elena’s selfish ass)
Right!!!! For the most part everyone got screwed on that show at the end and many people died for Elena. I loved Bonnie. She did everything for her friends, died for her friends even, and at the end she got no love- like i think at the last episode she goes exploring? lol. Theres another video that showed how the writers like were throwing shade at Kat Graham- apparently they didn't like her or were racist,etc- who really knows. Now, i look back at Vampire Diaries and wonder why I loved it so much. When it was on it was my fav. The Originals was better in so many ways, but sadly the rushed the last season. As for Legacies- i don't like that show and can't figure out why it's still on- but thats just me
“She almost died in my arms Damon. She almost died in my arms.” When you’re not getting enough attention so you make some else’s mum’s death about yourself also when you just saw your best friend hugging her mum’s corpse sobbing then go to the corridors to kiss your boyfriend. Yeah, Elena was the true villain of this show
And ppl still don't understand why I don't like Elena. Yes she lost a lot of ppl and went thru things but so did everyone else yet they don't act the way she did. Losing ppl doesn't give you the right to act a certain way. She was the only character who could truly grieve while her friends suffered ALL THE TIME. (And no it isn’t entirely Elena’s fault but she even has her moments where she treated her friends so poorly.)
She lost people but was always allowed to grieve. When we first saw her she was going through a grieving period and she was allowed to before school started back. But only Elena was allowed to be sad when Caroline turned off her humanity she tried to have some sort of control still so she wouldn’t regret much when she turned it back on. Bonnie didn’t get to grieve when she lost people she always had to save them and Elena never really cared about others
@@allegraanegra455 I didn’t like Bonnie the first time I watched because she always complained but she never got to fully grieve her nana and other people. it was always « we need a witch » like everything is not about you. I just hated how everyone dropped everything to save and help Elena. Katherine was the first to say how weird and annoying that was. other people have lives too and other shit going on.
I don’t have a problem with Elena crying every one has a certain they act after losing someone it’s just that when ever someone is hurting or going through something she finds a way to make it about herself that’s why I don’t like her I loathe her
Don't forget the time that Stefan lost all his memories and Elena seemed to have a little too much fun bringing his memories back, not mentioning she was with his brother, allowing Stefan to feel led on, being a semi-cheater by flirting with Stefan and almost sharing a kiss and THEN dropping the bomb that she's with Damon??? Whatttaaabitchhhh lol once she realized Stefan couldn't remember Elena, she had to go back in and be manipulative and make it allllll about her
@@CelesteSinger1 and in legacies we've seen him be an extremely good hunter. He protected both rafael and Landon from a werewolf hunter. Even without his hunter strength he is brave enough to stand in front of a 140 year old vampire and trash talk to him. Plus he died 2 or 3 times In the show and he was okay. He deserved much more screen time. At least we know that he spent time as a teacher in the salvators school so that's something but still a show about his life after the events of tvd it would be very interesting
Ok but Nina’s acting is amazing. She plays four characters that are very different from each other and you can tell when one character is being the other character.
Damon abused,compelled,and feed on carlione and when stefan broke up with elena the first thing she thought of was sleeping with his borther (damon) She is a bad friend, makes everything about herself, and doesn't know anything.
Caroline forced Liam to do open heart surgery on her future bfs niece , Stefan forced Damon to become a vampire and killed thousands (with his humanity on lol) , Klaus killed Elena’s aunt , Enzo tortured the friend group and killed Peeps, yet Bonnie loved him , Caroline slept with Klaus after Klaus had murdered Tyler’s mom. Bonnie hated Caroline once she became a vampire even tho it want Caroline’s choice and Bonnie was the one who made Damon give her his blood. Lol none of these characters are perfect that’s kinda the point 😃👍
@@lailaisyourmomhaha1127 in caroline's defense she flipped the switch bc of vampires bonnie lost one of the most important people in her life she had an excuse to hate vampires
Caroline’s mom just died and Caroline is crying in a hospital room by herself. Elena makes it about herself and makes out with the person that abused Caroline after her mom just died. That’s LOW
Klaus tortured and abused everybody in their group, almost did kill Elena, killed Tyler’s mom, and Caroline slept with him. Stefan is the one who turned Damon and made him abusive and made him kill people yet she married him. Guess no one is perfect
i love seeing elena being put in her place and other people telling her off like worried about stefan when you're with the person killed your brother, he snapped his neck real fast like worried about the wrong thing
Bro they just hated her character, even kat said they kept trying to kill her off. And homegirl didn’t even get a happy ending w Enzo, Stefan came and killed him.
@@Val-uz3jf Actually, Stefan is the main character bc it’s his story. Plus, Grams was killed bc Damon wanted to see Katherine. That wasn’t for Elena, it was for him. They all came to Bonnie when they wanted help + then screw her over.
In my opinion if anyone deserve that cure(which kol was right and they shouldn't have woken up silas to take it.) Rebekah deserve it the most.Also being self-centred is definitely a petrova personality trait
“i compelled a student to perform surgery on Stefan’s niece and you found a way to make this about you??? HAHAHAH GOD you truly have a gift Elena” 💀 CAROLINE GO OFF
……. so stefan did the exact same thing by making every vampire’s experience about his ripper self, and he’s a great guy to you. but elena tries to get caroline’s humanity on, she’s a bad friend and self centered to you, right? and guess who was the first person that caroline apologised to when she turned on her humanity again? that’s right, elena.
@@iluvcupid1009 but even stefan and caroline are more self centered to elena. yet elena gets hate for the exact same thing other characters are praised for. elena simply made caroline’s current experience about her no-humanity experience, to try and turn caroline’s humanity back on. so i don’t see the hate😭
@@gm.8805 foreal does everybody notice elena is self centered bc everyone makes her think she is.. like everyone is always talking abt elena even when shes in a coffin, goodbye shes the main character
ok why is no one talking about how she turned caroline’s mother DYING into something about her??????? if you want to show how elena is narcissistic than all you need is that episode.
@@samsampleman2439 yeah but it wasn’t really selfish since she spent the whole day preparing for her mom to be there and she was with Stefan since her mother ASKED him too, since he could help her with the grief, it’s not really the same with Elena though.
@@drstumpy8069 how is it any different? Caroline should've spent the entire time with her preparations instead of finding time to snog Stefan. It wasn't like Elena looked at Liz and then decided to just go and kiss Damon. If you want me to bring context into it, fine. As I recall, Elena went to talk to Damon and after what happened she realized how short life can be (even for an immortal) and that you should appreciate all the time you get with your loved ones. Then they kissed. And kissing someone is never selfish. If Caroline kissing Stefan while her mom is in hospital, no matter what she's been doing in between, it's not selfish for Elena to do the same! Also wasn't it Elena who brought Liz to the hospital after she collapsed, since Caroline wasn't with her? Man she's such a selfish bitch...srsly, you people want to hate on Elena, fine. But don't be a hypocrite about it.
Makes me laugh how in the early seasons Stefan says how Elena is nothing like Katherine but she ends up becoming just like her. Worse even, at least Katherine knows she's selfish.
