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Emotional Growth Strategies: Fi insights for Fe users 

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The Fe internet friends asked for this video on Fi tips! Today we uncover practical strategies for emotional growth, learn how to balance external harmony with internal authenticity, and explore how understanding these cognitive functions can lead to a more fulfilling emotional life.
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@m2pozad
@m2pozad 8 месяцев назад
My male version of Fe is not so much fussing and focusing on the emotional states of others. But more about values and meaningfulness of shared collective experiences, as in beneficial civilization level interests.
@NataliaKida94
@NataliaKida94 8 месяцев назад
I am a Fe user and I think I have a good emotional understanding of myself. The thing is, I consider many things (emotions, opinions, values) as quite relative and fluent, sometimes I struggle to have a strong opinion on things because I can easily imagine other people perspectives and I know I would think differently having different life conditions, so why would I make an extreme judgement when the answer to so many question is: "it depends". From my perspective, Te-Fi users tend to be more extreme in their opinions, kind of stubborn and less agreeable (when immature), which sometimes bothers me, sometimes is inspiring. I wouldn't say that Fe wants to create a sort of sameness (at least not my Fe), I deeply value diversity and I like that we are so different, we have inspiring frictions and create so different "chemical reactions" with different personality types. Also it's surprising for me that you feel unseen rather by Fe users than Fi, because I have it the other way around. Te-Fi may listen to me and maybe internally care a lot, but give me no external signs of that, so I feel unheard. Fortunately we have MBTI and I understood with time that external expressions of Te-Fi might be very different from their inside and we can both work on better communication, so the interaction is satifying for both sides.
@MaliMaslacak526
@MaliMaslacak526 7 месяцев назад
You know what can happen - maybe when an Fe user is opening up to the Fi user but the Fi user doesn't show Fe user is being heard. Fi user is actually so good at listening and analyzing that he or she realises the issue Fe user was talking about is something Fe user can get very offended by if Fi analyzes things Fe just said (or let slip) and actually shows to that Fe user IS in fact very much heard ny the Fi user. Usually Fe really does get offended by the Fi user in such instances - only another Fe user could respond properly to the Fe so that Fe is satisfied and in peace. Experienced Fi user knows this and just wants to be polite do he/she brushes the thing under the rug. Fe is great for social harmony but think how social harmony is being achieved, certainly NOT by telling others the truth! You rock at being social and warm. Being self aware is not your strenght and it would sound ridicolpus if someone like me who is an Fi user would claim I know how to be appropriate and say the right thing at the right time. 😂 I mean you can't have both. Just accept it. Accept yourself. Here. You are being listened by an Fi user. I hope it didn't get you mad. 😅❤
@xHannibal
@xHannibal 7 месяцев назад
@@MaliMaslacak526 Depends on where they are in the stack. High Fe users also have strong Fi and high Fi users also have strong Fe. In other words if an Fe user wants to understand FI/their subjective feelings then they can they just don't really care about that that much and likewise if an Fi user wants to understand Fe/other's feelings then they can they just don't really care about that that much. These will of course vary by the individual, most noticeably some Fi users place subjective value on kindness and social harmony so their Fi can mimic Fe. It's mainly types with high Te or Ti that will generally be pretty bad at understanding how they feel as well as how others feel unless they dedicate practice/effort to it.
@friendlyanomaly6109
@friendlyanomaly6109 6 месяцев назад
​@@xHannibal More accurately, it's that people with Fe or Fi second, tend to be versatile when it comes to Feeling matters, whether it be Fe or Fi, but people who have Fe or Fi as the first in their stack, tend to be either good at once, but not the other and embody the flaws and weaknesses of their preferred Feeling function/attitude. On the flipside, people with Te or Ti second tend to be able to use one Feeling function/attutude more comfortably, but are notably incompetent at using the the other, whereas people with Te or Ti as their first can use the Feeling Function/Attitude that they don't prefer effectively, but not the one they really care about. Ti primary types tend not to have a problem with being authentic or staying true to their values by Fi standards in comparison to Ti secondary types, who, when it comes to that, drop the ball like it's for sport. *TL;DR:* Fe secondary & Fi secondary types tend to use both Fe & Fi effectively, others don't.
@YouilAushana
@YouilAushana 4 месяца назад
And you prefer to be very submissive
@practicalpersonality
@practicalpersonality 7 месяцев назад
My favorite moment was when the INTJ said: “It’s not necessary to go into more detail.” 😂 But seriously, the reminder to be rooted in your own personal values is so important for actually building the life that you want long-term.
@hunter2358
@hunter2358 8 месяцев назад
The music at the beginning is kinda noisy tbh, idk if you planned it to be that way...
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 8 месяцев назад
Did you watch the premiere? That’s RU-vid not me
@Valgaav
@Valgaav 8 месяцев назад
I just watched it now and I 100% agree, I could hardly understand what you said during the music :/
@Duisighingra
@Duisighingra 2 месяца назад
Very curious, I started trying to figure out which cognitive function was annoyed by the music, as in complete sensory overload.. What function would that be?
@hunter2358
@hunter2358 2 месяца назад
@@Duisighingra Si/Fi inferior
@peterpaul3166
@peterpaul3166 8 месяцев назад
Hey LiJo As an ENTP, I can relate to needing cultivation on #4 about respecting others emotional boundaries The whole point of us clowning around with others is to break down weak emotional boundaries, as to install our creative Ti conclusions, But isolated from tact, we can end up emotionally distanced from people who we should have found value with making emotional connection instead of rational connection: The reason why we (ENTPs) love INTJs, since they connect over reason, vs primarily emotion Me and my INTJ SB/C wife should book a Snugg with you, so her and I can get your perspective on self growth, relationship, etc…?
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 7 месяцев назад
Happy to speak to you both :) you got the link!
@karalewis388
@karalewis388 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for this video, I’ve been trying to understand Fi users because I know so many of them (I’m an ENTP currently working a lot on Fe development). I struggle especially when they are stubborn about their values or shut down when questioned, although not all of them are that way. Since you’re OP, not just MBTI, I would be interested in hearing your opinion on Fe dealing with Masculine vs Feminine Fi, because the feminine is more palatable to me whereas masculine Fi is downright triggering. Thank you so much for this video!!!
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 8 месяцев назад
Ooo gooos idea on the M vs F Fi
@friendlyanomaly6109
@friendlyanomaly6109 6 месяцев назад
But with Feminine Fi, you get Masculine Te, which is oof.
@karalewis388
@karalewis388 6 месяцев назад
@@friendlyanomaly6109 true, however the feminine Fi users I’m around thankfully have Te lower in their stack and don’t get too pushy most of the time.
@absmith4724
@absmith4724 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video, I've been working with fi fe issues lately, much appreciated!
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 8 месяцев назад
Happy to make it!
@SensemakingMartin
@SensemakingMartin 8 месяцев назад
Love the hair and the general look. Good stuff
@Danny-he4hi
@Danny-he4hi 7 месяцев назад
Also, thanks for explaining the difference between Fi and Fe so well. I didn't have a good grasp of the differences between these two but the way you explained it is really easy to understand.
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 7 месяцев назад
Ah so glad it was helpful for that :)
@Danny-he4hi
@Danny-he4hi 7 месяцев назад
@@InternetLiJo no problemo! 😎
@kr-666
@kr-666 8 месяцев назад
"The more you connect with what you care about, the more you'll give a shit about protecting those values" Having Ti and Fe this is perplexing, it's like what? What I give a shit about is the tribe. Trying to build strong opinions on values outside of that has me totally lost, there is no brainstorming. lol
@valerievankerckhove9325
@valerievankerckhove9325 8 месяцев назад
Probably for the same reason we Te users appreciate Ti. Te means I can just pick up and use systems made by Ti users from scratch to accomplish whatever it is I want to accomplish, but having some Ti of my own means I can slow down and think if the systems I'm using actually make sense or allow me to create some systems of my own to bridge things over. Likewise, when you have only Fe, you run the risk of not looking critically at what the collective values are, and when they could turn out wrong. Having some Fi of your own keeps you grounded and more critical, and thus better at helping the collective in the long run. I say this but, as a low Fi user, I view Fe as telepathy and have no idea how to go about it, haha.
@v3g499
@v3g499 8 месяцев назад
Id love to see the same thing but the opposite direction, tips to do Fe for Fi users and Ti for Te users :3
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 8 месяцев назад
Love it you’re right I should do the balance
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
1:03 that "Fi" or "nArCiSsM," to use the older term for it, can be converted to observation of the volume and range in other people's real time emotional exp. This must be so, only because the notion of "if you feel it in you then you can sense it in others(so long as you aren't being too into you at the moment of attempted observation or your 'Fi' can't properly invert its function.)" Any competent "INTP" can invert the fmow of introspection and expression in all 16 of his supposed "cognitive function" and use this to aptly emulate the 3 types in the shadows that sustain that dominant 1/4th that is the "INTP" persona. The same is true of any "INTJ" who feels they lack "empathy" and want to k ow what it's like to directly feel(through the fluctuations of pressure in the flow of another person's presence) rather than having ask and yet still doubt how others how feel in the moment.
@HerrFinsternis
@HerrFinsternis 6 месяцев назад
Question, when Fe users developed that function to be well balanced with their Ti (for the sake of the question let's assume the judgment-bridged types) won't that set them up to then more easily develop their Fi as well?
@dennisg.9887
@dennisg.9887 7 месяцев назад
Can an ESFP be more INTJ subconscious focused in such a way that the ESFP has alot of knowledge and a well intuition?
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
In my paradigm, focus is anchored in or flowes through vectors of least resistance. This state of least resistance is the optimal equilibrium or calmest(most coherent) state that one can know in any given moment, one can always get calmer to the degree their focus can be sharpened and this refined sharpness always gives rise to discernment of an even calmer(more coherent) state that one can possibly attain, expanding your range of discernment one step further as result. "Through calm, the force flows." - Yoda to Luke in the Japanese Manga version of their strory. In your own states and places of calm, it's almost tangible the very moment another person's focus penetrates into the bounds of said calm(destabilizing your coherence to various degrees of instability which all reflect the power of the invasive attention and/or your own lack of calm). That penetration is the very same "disturbance in the force" that Jedi sense as their enhanced Sapience gathers a multitude of data points to extrapolate the presence of many distant events and people which constitute said "disturbance in the force." They can do the same for reading subtext and even for sensing subatomic fluctuations within their own bodies and paraphernalia, allowing for correlating points of internal reaction where body and items have corresponding patterns reflecting interference of external force, just like the vibrating water in that cup as a t-rex stomped toward the protagonists in Jurassic Park(except the Jedi's body is the cup and their calmed mind is the still water jumping only by channelling ambient waves of disturbance into discernible meta data). This is the same with the fiction of MBTI whose 16 so called "cognitive functions" are just proxy for the dance of popularity which bisects the flow of possibility as expressed through the cyclic patterns of existence. Your "Te" is the "least resistance" centred in concentric cluster around the shaft of focus that is my "Ti" just as much as your "Fi" penetrates my "Fe" to cascades its waves of excitement into expansive stimulation that might give rise to a sharpening of your "Fi" as we feed off and through eachother to birth the very best of possibility.
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 7 месяцев назад
Lin when are you going to give yourself, and all of us, the gift of the completion of your inevitable novel? You scatter your delicate grumblings across the internet leaving the void of the sculpted masterpiece in which they belong. We can’t complain, as I’d rather revel in an adroit elbow or pinkie than none at all. Still, in our musing of your preludes we’re still left in absence of your symphony.
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
​@@InternetLiJo what da!? Laaaaaaawd😂 ... thanks, daughter of Sephiroth 🖖🏻
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 6 месяцев назад
I’ll be waiting 🕰️ 📖😎
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
I've revised the value of the little "i" and little "e" in your MBTI fiction. The little "i" now stands for "induce" as that's what it does, the "i" induces the function while the little "e" encapsulates what has been induced by the "i." Once critical threshold of encapsulation is reached, there is a quality shift which enables the "i" to further scry into the bounds of possibility to extrapolate even more for the "e" to experience and remember as the standard, state and nature or "substance" of "reliable evidence" for anything one believes in. It's the reciprocal intercourse between us that allows us to itterate and expound as we collectively grow into the potential of mankind. "i" and "e" are modes in the framework of experience, not to be taken as permanent or true nature of your psyche. MBTI is fiction.
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 7 месяцев назад
Lin, I'd argue the entirety of our perception is fiction as well.
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
​@@InternetLiJo yes, perception = "of is," not is "is" but cognitive tesolution filtered tangents about "is."
@mauritsbol4806
@mauritsbol4806 5 месяцев назад
The thing about the Fi that every intj can see but no intj can understand about fe when it is inferior to ti. As an entp, my values is my logic. As it is logic based values, my values are for example don't exploit me, physics, and understanding human behaviour. It is vague and incomplete. Those are my values. If i ever say i have more, i actually do Fe where i mimic the values bias of the person i am interacting with. You cannot stand up for your values if you don't have any. My values is for example not to have a favorite colour because it bullshit. And those are not values. You get a very unbiased values, ofc you have some, but those all conform to game theory.
@ellenvanderveen6576
@ellenvanderveen6576 7 месяцев назад
My favourite woman 💜
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
Your closing theme music feels like our childhood, remember those dark lonely yet peaceful cloudy days of heavy rain and exciting thunder? The days where you and I would relax with a few books as were read in the library escape sessions of the late 1990's? We were so young and innocent, yet to try our hand in the woe of wooing and loosing the hearts of so many lost and disgruntled millenials and maybe a hot Gen X or two? Long gone are the days of liberty, curiosity and hope for we've stumbled into the later years as life winds down and some of us get to joyfully observe the rising tides of our progeny leaping into their own fate...
@beckyc8299
@beckyc8299 5 месяцев назад
Doggo 🐶 cute ❤ 😊
@h4rv3r
@h4rv3r 7 месяцев назад
Hey, I want to ask if you could make a video about memory of intj, and perceiving things from different usage of functions, it would be so helpful because I am struggling so much with my Ni, I was damaged badly when I was younger, and lately I discovered myself, When I was (and it’s happening most of the time) in Present I wasn’t thinking about anything, logically or rationally, something like logic didn’t even exist. And when I somehow get into my head, I started to think, what the fuck is going on out there, why those people are like that etc. Analysing everything, and I just felt like i will burn in a second with all the decisions I made in the past. I have so small knowledge and I need to get to know how to be myself properly, because then and only then I can be normal. Thank you
@h4rv3r
@h4rv3r 7 месяцев назад
Also I had calculated solutions from my Ni, and people were like, whoa how he knows that, and I wasn’t thinking, and they were like, no he’s psycho, he knows but he can’t use those informations in any possible way to gain more from it
@hadiza1
@hadiza1 8 месяцев назад
Sitting! 🥰💕
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
4:20 Yes; group dominance is antithesis of individuality or "individuation." This is you realizing the value of the little white spot in the black side of the yin~yang gyre, where the black represents so called "Fe" as it is dark to you but you recognize the exclusion aspect at its heart since that heart is white as the bulk of your "Fi" that is only dark place is the spot of its heart which ties the poparity together as expression of singular substrate... Should not an extravert "first function" be super social, odd that it's only social interppay is gathering~sorting mere facts through multiple vectors as means to cross reference then for thwir coherence and subsequent utility in expanding your overall body of trusted knowledge? MBTI fiction isnweird but it's less harmful than psychology and psychiatry which dispense forced "medicine" to "fix" the so called "neuro divergent" aka "Sapient~Free."
@saintpatrick6681
@saintpatrick6681 8 месяцев назад
love you
@dolittle7593
@dolittle7593 3 месяца назад
LiJo, BGM is too loud 😂
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 7 месяцев назад
This is payment for pondering that last mass of text I have generated, hope it's processed well enough as ya take what ya want and poop out the rest. May you poop in peace, always 🖖🏼✨☯️🐉🤖
@adeadcrab
@adeadcrab 8 месяцев назад
xx
@ronxt4843
@ronxt4843 8 месяцев назад
I disagree with this a lot. as an ENFP who only dates Fe users, advanced emotionally intelligent Fe cannot be like Fi. it's different. Fe users can't look in to find their emotions and values, they have to analyze their behavior from a third eye view because for them values can only exist if they are expressed. high Fe users have to learn the art of expression and refine their ability to express with nuance, precision, and in a way that draws others to buy into their experience. THEN they can understand themselves, but even then, they don't build an internalized system of their values through this, they can just learn to understand what they felt in that situation and that moment and in the next for many other reasons they might react differently than before without realizing it or realizing why. they're just not like us at all
@redroverly
@redroverly 7 месяцев назад
Ok but this is not about whether Fe users are like Fi users. Ofc they wouldnt be, they are cognitively opposites. We are talking about insights that could be helpful. The idea of refining their expression (which I assume to be in a first person perspective) is indeed a pretty good place to start learning. Thanks.
@ronxt4843
@ronxt4843 7 месяцев назад
@@redroverly maybe if you're an Fi user but that literally doesn't work for Fe users. you can't ask an Fe user to try being like an Fi user. that's like telling a penguin to work on flying. Fe has a totally opposite path to maturing. if authenticity and consistency are the concern then the Fe user has to rely on Ti. extroverted functions cannot be authentic because they have nothing to do with the subject. this video just makes no sense
@redroverly
@redroverly 7 месяцев назад
@@ronxt4843 even if there is a different way to mature, it still doesnt mean an Fe user cant learn from an Fi insight. The Fi insight is not meant to learn overnight but over time and/or be aware of how Fi works so Fe can consider the usage of it from others that are Fi users and/or preferrably use Fi in certain circumstances that is more beneficial than using Fe. This is hopeless thinking if u think its impossible, how then does one learn? We might as well never produce, share or listen to any content that is counterintuitive to ur perspective...thats asking for an echo chamber and a self-fulfilling prophecy. But ofc "it doesnt make sense" because ur assuming the Fe user should completely rewire themselves. Thats not the point of the vid, its "insights" not "rewire". Everyone has the 8 functions, Fe and Ti users have it at shadow, so regardless, its accessible albeit difficult. Ur not gonna tell me a Fe user doesnt have personal values, everyone has them. But again, there is a "difficulty of access" because its in their unconscious mind. So u need someone else to expose it so they can at least see what are their current personal values are on their own time. We know Fe users cannot be like Fi and Ti should be checked first before attempting Fi. But having access to Fi is a good place to start so u can work on it slowly but surely if desired. It may help Fe users to set Ti principles based on specific conditions to exhibit Fi values or read the room (Fe) to instinctively realize when Fi can be exhibited. Dont forget they are Fi users in their unconscious side of the mind (nemesis or critic), so they absolutely can rewire themselves but not how the way a typical Fi user would (as it should be since it isnt in their natural state).
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 7 месяцев назад
This is just a perspective to look at and learn from through the eyes of a particular function. You can only be who you are :)
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 7 месяцев назад
And also thank you for sharing your strong Fi opinion on how you feel about the video haha (for real though) its a good example of what I was talking about.
@YouilAushana
@YouilAushana 4 месяца назад
Fi users be selfish and self-centered
@YouilAushana
@YouilAushana 3 месяца назад
2:59 - is your background real and the dog?
@InternetLiJo
@InternetLiJo 3 месяца назад
Yes lol!
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