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In this video we take a look at the Enfield No5 MkI chambered in .303 British, better known as the "Jungle Carbine." We take this old girl out to 300 yards and give a few tips on accurately verifying a real No5 against the commercial variants produced over the years. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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@aldoraine3364 5 лет назад

I have one made in 1945 that was given to me by my uncle, only thing I need to do is get a adjustment tool for the front sight and clean the barrel.

@p03saucez 5 лет назад

My Lee Enfield collection is sadly lacking a No 5. Guess I'll solve that tonight on Gunbroker.

@sandwichninja 5 лет назад

I just realized that Chad looks like Colonel Bagley (Tony Goldwyn) from "The Last Samurai", and Eric looks like Theodore Roosevelt.

@raymondharries7188 5 лет назад

Enfield 303 was the first big calibre rifle I shot with the Air Cadets back in 1984 I loved the feeling of it's power. Great video

@stephensmith4480 Год назад

That particular gun was made at the Fazakerley factory, a couple of miles from where I live.

@theTIVANshow 5 лет назад

Love the old rifles. It's amazing how they stand the test of time

@matthewmoss1589 5 лет назад

As someone who lives just down the road from Liverpool where ROF Fazakerley was, just dropping in to help with the pronunciation as it's an odd one: 'Faz-ack-a-ley', they also made Stens and Sterling SMGs after the war.

@DeimosPC 5 лет назад

Always good to see other Brit gun guys on here

@TechGamer45 5 лет назад

indeed.

@slimeyslug50 5 лет назад

There was me thinking I was the only Brit that watched these guys...

@zombieapocalipse2020 5 лет назад

@@slimeyslug50 think you will find there are more of us than you think!

@kensin7244 5 лет назад

Indeed "Fa Zak a Lee" The machine Tools was sold to India (Uncle worked at the factory)

@notahacker2107 5 лет назад

I sure do love these guns of history. It’s just so cool to see what was used back in the day. 👍🏻

@adamhollingworth2886 5 лет назад

Nice bush gun. Many game harvested with the 303 cartridge here in Canada

@adamcantrell7245 5 лет назад

Now I know why i cant hit anything with my 1950 Long Branch... Love what y'all do!

@fanbatcher 2 года назад

I bought a .303 British barrel for my Thompson Center Encore and it’s supremely accurate.....

@Soviet_Maro 5 лет назад

i managed to find one of these in my hometown, (in great shape too!) that was dated just after the end of WW2, sadly out of my price range, but it was an absolute beauty, i wished i could have gotten my hands on it. i would have given it a great home, i just hope whoever gets it, respects it!

@tarkers65 5 лет назад

Bought my No5 here in the UK about 2 years ago. A 1945 model and it is THE sweetest gun to shoot, also on PPU 150gr ammo! I have a number of rifles but this is my favourite and always brings enquiring looks at the range. If you can find one, grab it and hold on to it, you won't be disappointed!! The prices are going up all the time and they are increasingly harder to find. The 7th shot wandering zero catches many people out! Let it cool for 10 minutes and it should be fine again.

@frankmartin8471 5 месяцев назад

When I was a kid, the War Surplus store had racks of these 303 carbines for between $29.00 and $49.00.

@raider6511 5 лет назад

Yup they are nice, I got an ORIDGINAL one about 5 years ago for $495 and I checked the barrel first thing. It has ALL of the lighting cuts. I love it.

@bigfish7493 3 года назад

This is my favourite. Hits like a truck. I advise the shooter to use the sling tight under the elbow to steady the heart beat effect and hold down that first split second of recoil. Thanks for the demo!

@concernedpatriot.2221 5 лет назад

I have one of those. I love it. Haven’t shot it in years, think it’s time it takes a trip to the range.

@jklyghter7597 5 лет назад

2nd favorite Enfield of all time, if only I could find one! I'll make do with my american no4 mk1 in the mean time. Great vid!

@dunxy 5 лет назад

Nothing wrong with the no4mk1's, ive got a Savage one myself,its my go to 303, even with the "supposedly inaccurate" 2 groove barrel I get just over 2moa and shoot her out to 500m regularly, soon will push right out though either at new range im looking at joining (900m) or a private property where i can shoot over 1000m, just getting time it get up there! My Lithgow no1mk3 is my favourite but im trying to keep her condition good so shes more of a safe queen at this stage.

@charlespeavey2024 3 года назад

Triple A gun and pawn in orange city Florida has 2. Real deal

@p03saucez 5 лет назад

Lee Enfields are the greatest miltary bolt actions ever made: Change My Mind.

@dunxy 5 лет назад

No, I agree :)

@carlsberg1668 5 лет назад

First equal with the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. Both rifles are great but with different pros and cons. Im an Enfield man myself and love my old 303

@tombristowe846 3 месяца назад

Yes and he's working it a bit like a girl. Not in a smooth way at all.

@onneb90 5 лет назад

i love my No5. had it for a few years now. its my go to rifle when out bush chasing pigs goats and camels here in oz.

@Carl007Jr 5 лет назад

There we go... Always wanted a non-sporterized Enfield..

@dailylifewithsteve4460 7 месяцев назад

I’m going shooting over the weekend and I went to clean and check Al my dads guns and I found this in the back of his safe. I never saw it before and he was saying it was his dads and he had no ammo for it he assumed for 50 years it was a 30-30 hunting rifle I told him he had a fairly rare rifle in his hands. It’s a first production year number 5 now I just gotta buy some 303 British

@srt94 5 лет назад

Great to see the sling oriented correctly :)

@eugeneslagle7935 5 лет назад

One of my wish list rifles. Thank you for sharing.

@Yeoman7 5 лет назад

No.5s usually have all matching # minus the mag.

@sbaddison 5 лет назад

Shot these as a young Cadet in Swansea🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Initially.22 conversions then full fat versions at Sennybridge. Great gun.

@australianmade2659 5 лет назад

To me the Lee speed pattern or the no 1 mk 3 is the pinnacle of Enfield. That said I have a 1950 longbranch which is beautifully made by the Canadians.

@MarvelousSeven 2 года назад

Mk3 w/ mk4 sights would be perfect.

@thebutcherofthesomme7605 5 лет назад

This gun was on my list for a while. Just picked one up about a month ago at a gun show. First year production, not all matching but in very good condition. Can't wait to go out and shoot it.

@bfox630 3 года назад

Very cool! Never knew what the number on the bolt head meant. Mine has a 2. I also love the simplicity of the British slings.

@kaseyowens3065 5 лет назад

I would greatly appreciate another "@600 yards" video please! Edit: one of the first big bore rifles I ever fired was chambered in .303 British and had a really old telescopic sight on it. Really awesome experience! Thanks for putting this video out, its nice to see such a sweet rifle getting solid Use.

@tays8306 4 года назад

I finally experienced the wandering zero on mine too...always thought it was hooey. I can always pickoff the 10 inch gongs at 100yds at my range easy peasy. Got it really hot this go around and it was all over the map. That was enough punishment for my shoulder for along while anyways. Back to my no4

@dhymers 3 года назад

How many rounds in what time did it take to heat it up that much ?

@tays8306 3 года назад

@@dhymers I think 25 consecutive. It was damn hot

@oldwarhorseretired6536 5 лет назад

I have two Enfields, absolutely love both of them. One is my wife's father's,father's circa 1914. The other one is circa 1915 and is my go to deer gun. It came to me with the original scope base which has a Redfield 4x12. To me it is a perfect deer gun. I run Hornady match 174gr hollow points and with gun grease on the bolt it is smooth as a baby's bottom. Both are Mk1 Mod3. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for a few good men to do nothing

@GeorgiaBoy1961 Год назад

@ oldwarhorseretired6536 - Many folks call the Lee-Enfield "the 30-30 of Canada" since many in the north will tell you that the .303 British has accounted for more game across the (former) British Empire than any other firearm and cartridge... and it is not hard to believe at all. The Canadian Rangers only turned theirs in a few years ago, and they needed to be able to handle the biggest, meanest bears, if that situation arose. So, just like you are liable to find an old 30-30 lever-action in many a farmer and rancher's truck here in the 'States, you'll find a Lee-Enfield in that Canadian counterpart.

@AGamingFilm 5 лет назад

Beautiful weapon of .303 British Ammunition Cartridge a WWII military surplus. I like a (Enfield No.5) MK.I Jungle Carbine is accuracy 100% not missed any couple of targets Long-Range and we have to use a fix bayonet.

@danilellaalecu1762 3 года назад

You guys are amazing knowledgeable and humble.

@brady9299 4 года назад

I've got a №5 mk1 dated 1945 and I've never had any issues with zero, it shoots a decent group not the best but good enough plus mine absolutely eats wolf ammo out of 500 rounds I've only had flattening and bolt lock maybe 4 times if I remember correctly.

@Berzerk29 5 лет назад

I haven’t shot any steel cased ammo through my NO 5. But it loves PPU. Such a cool rifle. I’m proud to own a genuine Jungle Carbine.

@jimcarlin4586 5 месяцев назад

One of the best channels. Up there with Hickock45. Nice to see the shooting, the targets and no BS.

@AlaskanBallistics 5 лет назад

Those are cool old guns... great video y'all

@flywelder 3 года назад

This was education on many points! One was the headspace conversation issue. Another was the hot ammunition and the results so that if you're out there in the field or at the range and that happens you know why you can't get the bolt loose pulled back, very educational video! Thank you have you a video for the infield 3!?

@StephenArchibald-ey1nt 2 месяца назад

I have a jungle carbine that has a solid bolt handle because my older brother bought it out of a barrel and swapped out the bolt and magazine not realizing that they were are supposed to have matching serial numbers. He also hacksawed off the bayonet lug and the forestock in front of the barrel band. Still it's a great shooter.

@paulargent1003 Год назад

All you have said is correct for post war guns , 45 production however can be a bit of a mix of parts .My mint condition 3/45 has a No4 type bolt and rear sight (all numbers matching ) , I checked with Skennerton ( he is localish to me ) and they wereade on the se line as the No4 rifles , if no No5 bolts or sights were available then No4 s were fitted ( standard war time assy proceedure ) 👍🇭🇲 I like your work by the way👌

@Rumpole1000 4 года назад

Just bought a 1944 Fazackerley. Bore is pristine thankfully. I guess this video proves the wondering zero to be correct.

@christineschmidt8494 5 лет назад

( wifes iPad) I have a friend that collected WW1 rifles. We took a SMLE along to the range, he handed me 5rounds and being kind of a wise ass, told him I only needed 1. Took it to the running deer part of the range @ 100yards and got a kill shot w/the 1round and I thought it the sweetest shooter. Let me tell ya I was sweating like a beast, he had never hit it, so I was kinda proud of myself.

@steamengineshooray 5 лет назад

This made my day :D No.4 rifle when? :P

@mikel.6750 5 лет назад

Nice jobs guys. Love the Enfields. Please bring back the PSL with hand loads.

@Omega59er 5 лет назад

My No4 Mk 2 with a 0 bolthead hates Wolf ammo as well. I used to have a No4 Mk 2 with a 3 bolthead, and it would eat Wolf up all day, but accuracy at mid-range was poor. So nicer rifle, gotta feed it nicer ammo! Started typing this before the end of the video, and you guys mentioned the bolt heads! Thanks, guys. Gotta love Enfields.

@5shotsr611 5 лет назад

Great video guys. I got into collecting ol mil surplus bolt-actions around 30 years ago. I have an extensive collection Plus i have my dad's old ones. I hit the pawnshops years ago back then they was waay cheaper lol

@TheCowboyfromhell87 5 лет назад

Nice. I have a "Jungle Carbine" from Gibbs. Built off a Ishapore 2A1 Enfield. It is chambered for 7.62 NATO. Cool rifle.

@rpm1796 3 года назад

The combat reports in Malaysia was that contacts usually ranged in at under 50 yards. It would have been interesting to have seen a semi.

@tomjones1967 4 года назад

Beautiful rifle, congratulations! Taking a break but that’ll be my next buy.

@gureno19 5 лет назад

Glad i bought one of these a few years ago...... Such a fun rifle.

@LetoPartizan 5 лет назад

I was at my local pawn shop today and they have one made in 1946. All matching except the bolt. Absolutely beautiful darkened wood stock going for $650. Im debating on getting it.

@grendelgrendelsson5493 5 лет назад

The Lee-Enfield No4 was the first rifle I ever used as an army cadet in the very early 1970's. Don't worry about the pronunciation of Fazakerley; it's in the Land of the Scouser and they can't speak English anyway!!!! Now wait for the hate because I'm a Cockney!!

@kensin7244 5 лет назад

No need to hate God has punished you enough...........

@TheLawDawg 5 лет назад

What Country did you serve with?

@joelwalmsley7217 5 лет назад

@@kensin7244, ice cold!

@grendelgrendelsson5493 5 лет назад

Nice one la!!!!

@grendelgrendelsson5493 5 лет назад

Royal Anglian Regiment. Her Majesties Armed Forces mate!!

@mwmcbroom 4 года назад

Federal Ordnance, in Southern California, also made a conversion. I bought one back in 1993. Theirs is unique, however, in that it was made from a No1 MkIII platform. Engraved on the side of the reciever is "Jungle Rifle." It's a well made conversion, but its biggest drawback is its sight radius. With a barrel mounted rear sight and a shortened barrel, this has reduced the sight radius down to about 16". It's still fun to shoot within its limitations. But a Jungle Carbine it isn't.

@98ratboy 5 лет назад

I have an all-matching Fazakerley April '45 No. 5 that I inherited from my wife's grandfather. I love this rifle but the recoil is a real shoulder pounder. Authentic replacement stocks are hard to find (it has a nasty crack on the lower stock).

@therideneverends1697 5 лет назад

just fix the crack

@ericscottstevens 5 лет назад

Have one of these ( a mid 1945 era), the former owner carved up the stock to fit his hand (a 1960's college wood shop project), top wood hand guard and metal band was discarded, The 2 front sight flanges sawed off and modified, bayonet lug removed. Fired it a few times in 3 decades, kickback is great, I would like to get it back to original factory wood and front sight appearance as it looks good, yet just not a great shooting weapon.

@bassmaster588 5 лет назад

M1 garand at 600 yards pls

@AlaskanBallistics 5 лет назад

That'd be nice... my dad shot a .308 garand at 1000

@getoscarfied 5 лет назад

Alaskan Ballistics Isn't that called an M1 Tanker?

@AlaskanBallistics 5 лет назад

@@getoscarfied i believe the tanker was a shorter barrel only... the navy had some in .308 at some point

@therideneverends1697 5 лет назад

Alot of the millitary M1s still seeing use got converted in the 50s and 60s, a VERY easy conversion

@jamescameron1843 5 лет назад

Eric doesnt own anymore Garands.. he sold them

@djwoody1649 5 лет назад

Nice green sling, they're Aussie jungle ones I think, used them on the SLRs in Vietnam. Think they may have been used with the No5 in Malaya too, Britain's Vietnam except, we won, haha just kidding there; pretty different conflict.

@thalo215 5 лет назад

That rifle may very well have a wandering zero, but if I were on the other end of that rifle there's no way in hell I'd take a chance of stepping out in front of it.

@rogerj412 5 лет назад

The 'wandering zero' is actually a result of the receiver being milled to lighten the guns up. It's common misinformation about the flash hider being the cause so I don't fault Eric for saying that.

@AP2020_Outdoors 5 лет назад

Nice. I'll take one!.....for under 300 yard work! ICPS = incepient case head separation...

@asphaltmemories4597 5 лет назад

Glad I picked mine up when I did, one of my favorite Firearms. I see yours doesn't have a wandering zero.

@eco_logic 4 года назад

to see the effect of a wandering zero you need to shoot much more follow up shots to heat up the receiver and get it to a point it slightly bends.

@pigdogproductions 5 лет назад

Guys that was a great video, thankyou!

@zacharywalker2052 5 лет назад

Love those Enfield’s

@Bobbymaccys 5 лет назад

My shoulder felt this video before you even fired the first shot 😉

@728Joe 5 лет назад

Sweet carbine. Reminds me of my Spanish Mauser FR8!

@les8518 Год назад

I have fired thousands of rounds out of the Jungle carbine and other Lee Enfields. Some advice. Go back to using the 174 gr solid nose projectile which is what they were designed for and forget and I mean forget about neck size. I was a professional hunter in New Zealand and also did a lot of target shooting with the .303. If you can get your hands on some of the ex military 174 gr . grab it. The age of it does not matter. Goodluck.

@WalterHeisenburgWhite 5 лет назад

I still have the one issued to my grandfather. Its probably the most preserved one in the world.

@eco_logic Год назад

wow cool never sell it and imagine one day you may need it and it safes you your grandfather will be proud on you

@nathanielbrooke708 2 года назад

I would actually like to correct some designation issues there. 1. They were never built on the no4 MK2 actions, as the MK2 wasn't in manufacture until 1950s (including the 1/2 UK and the 1/3 US variants), they started life as a true no5 mk1 action adapted from the no4 mk1. 2. The no6 and the no7 were different altogether, the no7 was a repeater no4 trainer in .22lr. the no6 mk1 was the Australian experimental carbine based on the no1 mkIII action. 3. They were never built initially for jungle use, they were purely a replacement for glider based airborne troops, as the no4 were way too long, bulky and difficult to work in the cramped environments of a glider. They gained the term of the "jungle carbine" as they were used post war in Burma which is where they gained that term altogether. 4. The idealistic "wandering zero" is purely a bedding issue due to the cut down stock, but it isn't anything to do with the flash hider or the lightning cuts on the action, but still they perform within specs of the accepted accuracy for all of the British Enfield rifles of 2-4 MOA is acceptable, anything smaller is rare to find with military ammunition and any larger is still ok but outside of acceptance.

@seananthonyegan3395 5 лет назад

A nice example of a great British weapon....

@Mrgunsngear 5 лет назад

great info as always!

@timallen6035 5 лет назад

Love the MilSurp videos.

@michaelbrooker1433 5 лет назад

Had a couple, sold them. They do have a smart recoil!

@newberryessex 5 лет назад

I love that gun. Always wanted one.

@lewisward4359 5 лет назад

Nice rifle. British Enfield's are great rifles. Never had much accuracy with the Wolf and PPU ammo. I hear the brass on the PPU is better than the Remington.

@GeorgiaBoy1961 Год назад

Prvi Partisan (PPU) are an under-appreciated company that make high-quality ammunition and components, too, and have been doing so for more than a century. Sad to say, Remington has had QC issues in recent years.

@lewisward4359 Год назад

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Perhaps PPU doesn't work well in the particular rifle I've used, which was well used and was "sporterized" which can effect accuracy. Wolf was worse.

@GeorgiaBoy1961 3 месяца назад

@@lewisward4359 - It's always a mystery to solve which load a particular firearm "likes"... no two seem to be alike, almost as if they have personalities. They're similar to electric guitars that way (another expensive hobby about which I know something! ...

@Adam-zi5se 5 лет назад

Gorgeous rifle

@DrGingerHamster 5 лет назад

You guys should get a wireless camera down by the targets so we can see that impact, and you as well. Enjoyable review. Nice weapon.

@patmancrowley8509 5 лет назад

Eric, if it was the "barrel harmonics" from the flash hider then it would be happening with every shot not just when the barrel got hot. If my recollection serves me it was the lightening cuts on the receiver and the scallops on the barrel that causes the wandering zero. I seem to remember that being the determination of the British army's weapons testing group (whatever name they use).

@tays8306 5 лет назад

I just picked up a no5 myself. Real deal with proper cuts etc....but scrubbed serials. I heard ishaphore refurbs had numbers scrubbed. Not sure why. But its in great shooter condition. No serials. Ishaphore refurb! Learnin!

@robertspenceryancey 8 месяцев назад

Thanks, thinking about buying a couple of these.

@oliverbrancourt95 5 лет назад

here in aus the no5 is a favourite hunting rifle as i do love the lee enfield rifes and a part of a clubs that shoots them and knows them in and out love these rifels. living only up the road from the Lithgow small arms where alot of enfileds where maid and now the new EF88 aus styer are made

@Dalton12247 5 лет назад

"This rifle shoots exceptionally well"... haha😂🤣

@apollo8972 5 лет назад

It shoots just fine.

@rpm1796 3 года назад

Squeak 🐭.

@gregsummers7350 5 лет назад

Nice shooting of a rifle intended for up close and personal work in the jungle or close bush scrub. Wandering zero at under the 100 yds jungle engagement range was not a big issue. Good demo of the speed shooting technique. Recruits would practice with drill rounds and stripper clips in their barracks at night until they became very proficient and smooth in their technique. There recruit training test was shooting at 300 yards. The so called wandering zero issue was an aid to move to the FAL, a truly wonderful rifle.

@eco_logic Год назад

what did you mean with move to the FAL please?

@GeorgiaBoy1961 3 месяца назад

@@eco_logic - Re: "what did you mean with move to the FAL please?" The fact that the British Army was considering re-equipping with a self-loading rifle by that time, i.e., the late 1940s-early 1950s. Just as many post-war armies around the developed world were then doing. Bolt-action rifles had served long-and-well for many years by that time, but they were dated in terms of their capacity and rate of fire, the virtues of the ten-shot Lee-Enfield not withstanding. And changes in the doctrine of ground combat and the role of infantry small arms were also transforming at that time. The emphasis was less on precision, aimed fire at distance as it had been for the previous half-century or so, and more towards short-to-intermediate range engagements and a greater volume of fire. Ultimately, of course, these changes led to many armies adopting battle carbines or assault rifles, and many others - including the British Army in the Cold War - to adopting self-loading battle rifles. As great and lasting a rifle as the Lee-Enfield had been, every design has its day and eventually time and technology moves along. While still a perfectly capable weapon - the Indian Army didn't surrender theirs until the 1970s! - it could no longer claim to be cutting-edge technology. The venerable Lee-Enfield and its .303 cartridge lasted a very long time in the use of not just Britain, but the Commonwealths also. The Canadian Rangers only turned theirs in less than a decade ago, and they're far from the only example. Hunters around the globe in various spots will be hunting with them long after we've gone, one would imagine....

@armandocastalan6599 5 лет назад

Real nice gun 👍😎

@TechGamer45 5 лет назад

I love the Lee action and the rifle.

@blindfredy6128 10 месяцев назад

Good video,again. In its defence, it was never meant to be a tack driver.

@DirtyDiksgunoroma 5 лет назад

Chad in the big boy chair! Nice!

@mr.c9582 5 лет назад

I had one over 40 years ago. It kicks like a mule, has a sloppy bolt. I was really happy to sell it for the purchase price. Further research told me that the rifle' barrel was too thin for the .303 cartridge which heated up the barrel and created a constant floating zero ( it wouldn't shoot in the same place twice).

@ewfisher89 5 лет назад

A friend of mine just recently bought one of these. Fun to shoot but kicks you pretty hard.

@user-wx3wc4bo7c 5 лет назад

ewfisher89 M44 ....

@hytekrednekbama4400 5 лет назад

I love mine, but DANG, these things are LOUD!!

@2Aknight762 5 лет назад

WOLF 7.62 X 54R ran over 3000 fps from my 91/30 Mosin Nagant. Blew out the primers on my ROMANIAN PSL.

@djwoody1649 5 лет назад

If you're having a bit of bother with a stuck case in a Lee action, I've found it helps if you re-cock the cocking piece and then try rack the action. I had a shite SMLE that was well out of spec and locked up after even a single round, doing that enabled me to get the cases out. Wasn't long before I blacklisted the seller and shifted it to a gunsmith who could canabalise the parts.

@riverrivers250 2 года назад

Would love to own that 303,,,, just cause of its history.. or even a m1 garand 30-06,,,,,

@kowalski363 5 лет назад

Thank you

@jimvandemoter6961 5 лет назад

I tried Wolf 9mm in my Ruger SR9 and had the same ejection problems you had. It seems like an easy fix, just don't load them as hot. I load my handholds pretty hot, but not like wolf, and I've not had any problems.

@chuggon7595 5 лет назад

I feel special knowing I saw this gun before anyone else

@reedpond6867 5 лет назад

As a 12 year old hunting deer and bear here in Vermont. My friends that had No5's called them 50 yard woods guns or 2 shots and done. They harvested the deer and bear every year with their No5's.

@eco_logic Год назад

its nice light you much mobile made for para troops ideal to make meters in dense bush best compact WW2 era gun to own

@Rubycon99 2 года назад

For the sights, Brits were still using yards when they made these :)

@jeffgrey663 5 лет назад

What a beautiful rifle

@351WINCHESTER 5 лет назад

The recoil from your no 5 is lower than some I have shot using the same ammo. I think the difference is in the bore diameter. Some are just tighter than others & will exhibit more pressure/recoil. Classic carbine for sure.