ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-viL0juV-pyI.html Here you have another masterpiece directed by Luka. Dinamo Zagreb- Ajax Amsterdam. They've had Suarez, we 've had Manđukić 😁
Man, RIP John Motson. By far the best commentator I've ever heard, grew up with him as the voice of football on the BBC. Crazy how just the way he sounds can immediately make a football match seem bigger than it really is, wish he was still around today calling games.
@@SuperTed19021Modrić was already world class MDF , in CRO we knew he could achieve very good carrer in a top 5 leauge UEFA, but not even close to this legendary status he has now vs AJAX (Suarez ) vs WERDER BREMEN ( golden team in those years) vs ARSENAL vs INDONESIA u19 ( 5 assist + 2 freekick goals)
@@milojkogermasic4968 I definitely think you could have gone to the final. Because Croatia always used to cause Germany all sorts of problems. And they would have met again in the semis. Although I am not sure if you could have beaten Spain in the final
@@milojkogermasic4968 As a Turkish, I don't think anyone in that tournament would've beat Spain in the final. They were just too good in their prime era. If we hadn't have injuries in the Germany match, we could've defeat them and went for the finals. Guess we're both unlucky
@@aspectcommander7144 @tashrif46 yeah i definitely got a bit carried away, especially considering the painful way we crashed out I dont know about Spain, but we were stacked and played well, that team already beat Germany in the group stage, i think we would have made the final
Gosh, as an England fan I still remember this disaster like it were yesterday. I was 13 at the time and had recently started taking an interest in football, and I was excited to watch in England in a major tournament for the first time as a fan. When Israel done us a huge favour a few days earlier I thought that we would certainly get the job done and qualify, but then what a rollarcoaster this match was which ended in despair and disbelief. Euro 2008 turned out be a great tournement as a neutral Sidenote - Motty's quote on Modric at 34:58 "he's the rising star of Croatian football, keep your eye on the number 14" how true those words rang
@@Onmysheetunfortunately a lot of those England players played for rival teams and they put club over country that's why they never really achieved anything.
Makes you appreciate Southgate. England were dreadful under McClaren, they played 1 good game at home to Israel. 2nd halves at home to Russia and away to Estonia they were poor and rode their luck and they got their come uppance against the Croats. Let's remember as great as this generation of Croatians were England hammered them 4-1 in Zagreb under Capello 10 months after this travesty.
How shite was that England team one of the worst l can remember with the worst ever manager the less said about that muppet Carson the better what a dreadful goalie he was.
This was brilliant Croatian generation. Full of experience, great pace in front line with Eduardo and Olic and very talented youngsters - Luka Modric and Ivan Rakitic. I was soooo sad when lost to Turkey on pens at Euro 2008. So unlucky!! They could have won that Euro that year.
@@bijou201 Lol it's not really a "what if," we saw a much worse Spain team beat a much better Croatia coming off a WC final 6-0, they have a very good record against them, like Croatia does with Italy
@@BC-th3mx so basically you are saying that 2007 Croatia team ("worse" than Spain) could also win "much better" 2007 Spain. It can go vice versa too. Typical example of "what if". Btw in "Derby Adriatico" Italy never won vs Croatia (8 matches). ;)
If ever a footballing phrase was described as laughable it's 'England's Golden Generation' right here. Totally overrated, overhyped and an embarrassment to the nation
@@allthekingshorses7178 By now we all know their excuse, they didn't like each other because they were playing for rival PL teams. But c'mon man, at least put that aside to play for your country. They had a great midfield in Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Scholes, and a good defence of Ferdinand, Terry & Cole, Rooney up front, but they were really missing quality in the GK position, RB position and wingers. Great players who didn't gel and played in a system that didn't work by coaches who didn't really know how to play them all together. Recipe for disaster and a waste of all their talent.
In qualifiers for WC 2010 England have beaten Croatia twice, and then lost in Ukraine to send Croatia out of the playoffs. Croatia waited for almost 10 years to get back at England. And they did it in a World Cup semifinal.
England totally underestimated them that night too as I recall. It was the night Roy Keane mocked Ian Wright for 'planning the parades' before the game had even begun. No one does hubris like the English!
@@NoCoastRaps after getting beat by England 5:1 (first match 4:1 for England), they played 4 more matches. 3 wins and a draw againt Ukraine. Croatia had 2 losses (England), and 2 draws (Ukraine). Ukraine had 2 draws (Croatia) and 1 loss (England). That match in Ukraine decided who qualifies for the playoffs. England had 9 wins, and 1 loss (Ukraine). That didn't sit well with Croatians. The feeling was England didn't go 100%. Even tho you are correct when you say Croatia would have qualified if they won home match against Ukraine. They had a chance to qualify by winning at home. You have to take that. I just say how it is viewed in Croatia.
Probably the angriest I’ve been watching international football. Years later I can fully appreciate what a fantastic performance Croatia gave, absolutely deserved it, England were so poor on the night.
@@kelechiasika9429if you watched us through the whole group of the qualifiers. You would say no to your question. Thats not dissing Croatia football as they played some lovely stuff. And fully deserved to go through. But England football during these qualifiers was so hard to watch. As we had the talent to do well at the tournament. But played the worse football I have seen from us. Drawing with Israel and Macedonia. And losing to Russia shows our football was shocking. Not dissing the teams that got points against us as fully deserved it (all were the better team in all games). But when you look at the talent McClaren had we should have topped the group. Maybe should have been close as Croatia had some good strength in their team. Like the guys at the end we was not angry that we lost. We were angry at the manner of how we lost. Zero fight through the whole competition and we got what we deserved. When your only prey is for Andorra to get a goal in their game to help you qualify. That tells the story of how poor England were lol.
@@cnote2458Nope playing barry and gerrard wright philips. They are all shit players just devoid of any technique. Any jumior football fan could tell that. England had no talent. The most skilfu player was joe cole wgo can olay some decent football. Gerrard is jsut a clown thay lobs ball high eevry time. Scholes am carrick would do way better😂
@@johannsebastienbach Played shit from start to finish, yes. When you look at the squad as individuals however, you would have taken none of them for Premier League talents. What's more shocking is, they were highly sought after players at all levels of the game. It was enraging to watch, especially when we knew they'd go back to their clubs and not play shit.
What a legend motson was. And now we have to put up cringe buckets guy Mowbray and Steve Wilson, two of the most embarrassing commentators to ever walk the planet.
@@andrewyoung1652 Add in Lee Dixion. My disdain for him grows with every single game he "commentates" on. The guy just moans nonstop, sounds bored, doesn't give any praise to anybody, just a god awful commentator.
And Russia ended up going all the way to the semi-finals...reminds me of how Denmark who didn't originally qualify for the 1992 Euro Cup only got a spot in it due to Yugoslavia's disqualification and ended up winning the whole thing
It's kinda interesting how Hansen used the phrasing "out thought and out fought", just for Shearer sitting next to him to use that exact phrasing for the Iceland game almost 10 years later.
This was after Israel had done England a huge favour by beating Russia as well. Despite England's absence, Euro 2008 was one of the most entertaining and best quality major tournaments that I've ever seen (Euro 2000 would come in first place).
Born and raised in London as a Turk.. to this day I'm always bitter that I wasn't born a few years earlier :( Only 6 years old when Turkey reached the Semis, can hardly remember anything from that tournament
Russia football was, at that time, the dark horse story. In Euro 2008, even though they lost heavily to eventual champions Spain with tiki taka, they managed to stun the Netherlands that topped the group of death. In World Cup 2018, as a host, they destroyed Saudi Arabia with 5 goals and even finally got a revenge against Spain to reach the quarterfinal. Now, they are just a Nazi Germany looking for colonizing the nations. We want a football, not a war.
@@1has9683 I remember everything. I remember the whole "will we get a group stage penalty shootout" when the Czechs and Turks played. Also the fallout from Cech dropping the ball at 2-1 up and the talk afterwards about whether he was on the decline. I remember when Croatia scored in the quarter final I asked my brother "how long left?" to which my brother replied "doesn't matter, it's over!" ... suffice to say Semih scored that memorable leveller and Turkey won the shootout Great tournament!
Gareth Southgate might be a very conservative, gunshy boss, but he saw England gone much deeper into tournaments with four Top Four finishes as Three Lions manager: 2018 FIFA World Cup Fourth Place, 2018-19 UEFA Nations League Third Place, UEFA Euro 2020/21 and 2024 runners-up. The likes of Sven-Goran Eriksson, Steve McLaren, Fabio Capello, and Roy Hodgson didn't even come close.
Apparently, the goal scoring winner Petric said was that when Croatia was at the airport in London, they were treated like criminals. So this motivated them to go out there and finish the qualifying tournament with a win.
Lescott, Richards, Bridge, Carson…. Thank you Croatia, you did us a favour! Can you imagine the HUMILIATION if England had actually qualified with this team at Euro 2008?!? 😂
Don't imagine any of them would have played much, Ashley Cole, John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Paul Robinson were all in their prime at that time. There were some injuries for this game but the likes of Cole and Terry miraculously recovered days later 😂 England would have still been abysmal at the Euro's regardless though, no real doubt about that, the Golden Generation rarely got close to living up to potential and McLaren was obviously an absolute disaster.
They were both amazing players but none of them were exactly ever known for their ability to control a game, so why are you commenting like it's a surprise? Both were box to box midfielders. Modric wasn't/isn't.
@@OhTylerB I’m not commentating like it’s a surprise, I know full well Luka Modric is a better footballer than either Lampard or Gerrard. I didn’t need this video to affirm it. I know Lampard and Gerrard were box to box midfielders, what’s your point? Roy Keane was a box to box midfielder, he controlled games, so was Patrick Vieira, controlled games too. None of them were as good as Modric either.
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 They're completely different players with completely different strengths, and only a simpleton would compare either of them to Modric. It's like comparing Kane to Suarez.
What Superb team Croatia had at Euro 2008, we won all 3 match at group stage within Germany wich was in Final later. And then lost vs very very Lucky Turkey at penalty shoutout
Yep, you should have played us(Czechia) anyway, you would have beaten us really easily I think.. Insted you got what one of the most luckiest teams ever who scored almost all of their goals with some lucky deflections or after players making schoolboy mistakes (Petr Cech)..
@PaYaB_005 Czech Republic is still one of only couple of teams we (Croatia) never managed to beat at a big international competition. We drew the group games at Euro 2016 and Euro 2020. Other teams that we never can beat and played against at least twice (from the top of my head) - France (lost the WC 1998 semi, drew Euro 2004 group game and lost the 2018 WC final), Portugal (lost the group game at Euro 1996 and the Euro 2016 round of 16 game), Mexico (lost WC group games in 2002 and 2014, the latter was especially painful because it was the last group game and meant that we didn't progress to the knockout stage, also fascinating to me is that Mexico in the last 20 years or so almost always qualifies to the World Cup knockout round and then it gets eliminated immediately in the round of 16, Croatia is completely different, doesn't qualify to the knockout round everytime, but when it does it finishes the tournament with a medal).
This match is a really good example of Gerrard and Lampard's limitations as midfielders. Gerrard is all blood and thunder and no composure; whenever he gets the ball he immediately looks for a Hollywood ball, never taking control of the game or trying to dictate the pace, just hit and hope. Lampard meanwhile let's the game completely pass him by; doesn't offer himself for the ball to try to playmake, nor does he play up close to crouch to use his goalscoring instinct. Both of them were great in existing systems that played to their strengths, but neither of them were ever the truly complete midfielders people claim.
What *might* have happened if you used Hargreaves or/and Carrick instead of these two *at least* 2 years prior. Or just have Lampard on as an attacking sticker at least, with means *no* room for Gerrard.
I remember the hubris England fans and pundits showed towards this game, that it was a given victory and just a formality. Despite being an England fan I kind of enjoyed watching us get beat. We needed to be humbled as a nation. Iceland was another moment and probably the real turning point for us as a nation. Now we tend not to underestimate teams as horrendously.
@@Mlaargaar Gerrard for England was so so poor. Some of those passes there were miles off. People forget his prime Liverpool position was in behind Torres in a 4411, with 2 world class defensive midfielders in Macherano and Alonso behind him, and very disciplined wingers, certainly in Dirk Kuyt on the right. Gerrard was almost like a striker in his prime. It's bizarre fans look back at him as this orthodox midfielder. He was under Houlier and for a bit under Benitez before Benitez could see how unreliable he was there. A great example would be the Champs league final win where Gerrard had a shocking first half in a midfield 2. 3-0 down at half time. Brings on Hamann, moves Gerrard much further forward and he has an incredible game. Gerrard moved back to DM under Rodgers when he was past his best, but only controlled games against poorer opponents. Never against the best by that point
But it lead to *zilch.* Beside, Croatia went on to achieve *speculator* results in their history/population further down the line (2nd and 3rd in two consecutive World Cups, with both featuring Luka Modric), and *one* of those was at our English expense.
Modrić is the only Croatian player from this game to still actively play! Corluka and Rakitic were the last ones to retire from this squad when they both retired in 2018. Modric playing 6 years after their retirement is crazy...
I remember this. I remember being so upset England didn’t make it, so I decided to support Spain in the tournament. Spain were utterly fantastic, and was the start of something special for Spain.
You made the right choice. During this era/decade many of us EPL fans & Brits switched from supporting England to another national team, just for the pain relief. e.g. I was always a dual fan of both England & Wales' teams, but after this performance I definitely lost interest and stopped watching England for a good ten years.
@@pendafen7405 10 years in hibernation! What did you take for pain relief? Your expectations are too high. The English were always ordinary and overated. Over 80,000 screaming supporters at home!! What are they like away?
He must of had the *strongest* bladder and lips ever, to witness not only this, but also what was going to befall this England team in the years ahead.
McClaren got too many big decisions wrong in this game. Starting Carson at his age. No experience on an awful pitch. He had James with tonnes of experience on the bench. He's played Crouch who thrives on crosses into the box and he's benched possibly the best crosser of a ball in football history in Beckham. 2 huge decisions, and he got them both wrong.
It was probably more likely his assistant manager Terry Venables and his absentee captain John Terry that made those shit decisions and McClaren just went along with the two of them. *SMFH!*
When england could not pass the ball simply 5 yards with out hitting it too hard or slow, and the player receiving could not control it with out the ball bubbling or doing a bad touc, only hoof ball was their identity. Got to say they improved now, and can play like rest of the world
Your acting like England never knew how to play good football. They had some excellent teams in the 66, 86, 90 and 96 playing all out attacking football. This team simply didn’t gel because of club rivalry’s and poor management from McLaren and then Capello. The next England fans think of criticising Southgate, they should come back and watch this video. Not since the early 00s has the England team been more settled
@@oracle8589 Yes but his point was about the ability to pass a ball and he is right. Go back to the days of 90 and 96 and 86 - statistically, the amount of completed England passes is far less than what it is today. They'd complete maybe 4 or 5 passes before losing the ball or trying a long ball. Football has evolved since then. Even the GErmans complete more passes now than they used to. But it has taken England much longer to be able to do it.
@@oracle8589 Southgate has the benefit of managing players who work under elite world-class European coaches, so they walk in the door of SGP with passing game. His job is rather easy once he's got the lads on his side and working together.
@@oracle8589 Lol 66 did NOT play attacking football, set a record for fewest goals scored by a champion, one of only a few who finished below 2 goals per match because their players have never been very talented, but make up for it with organization and discipline
@Dead-Ball-Situation The England from 2003 - 2016 were awful tactically. They had the players but still couldn't make it work, especially in 2006 - 2008.
Definitely it was the rainy night on the 21st November 2007, England never made it to Euro 2008 after losing only 2-3 against Croatia! But whereas last summer, they played well to get to the finals, despite having lost in the penalties to Italy which was a bit of a shame! They should be proud of themselves for getting in the finals though!!
@@racerja3173 *EXACTLY!* For the same, similar reasons as this campaign. Failing to beat Macedonia at home or Israel away in 2006-07 was exactly like failing to beat Norway at home or Poland away in 1992-93, hence why we didn't qualify.
Club football in 2007 as today was dominated by foreign players, coaches & in certain cases foreign money... can't compare with International football... If you go back far enough (70s & 80s) then it gets crazy... English club teams (British players) dominating in Europe yet England won nothing in the 80s (not even Semi appearances) & didn't qualify for two World Cups in the 70s
Fun Fact: The Champions League Final was held in Moscow at that time. England lost 1-2 to Russia in the qualifying match away. It's so crazy how they got an all-English Final six months later in the same venue where they got embarrassed by the Russians. But Zenit Saint Petersburg, a Russian club, won the UEFA Cup, with the Final taking place in current Manchester City's Etihad Stadium at that time.
The media wanted McLaren and they got their man. He was completely and utterly out of his depth. He had what was a decent England side playing like a League 2 side in a fourth round FA Cup tie. Dark times.
@@Onmysheet That way of thinking was more likely from his assistant Terry Venables and absentee captain John Terry. Hence why we put out that disastrous starting 11. The Wally probably had *no* real thought of his own.
The UEFA Euro 2008 qualification shouldn't came down to two games against Russia and Croatia had England had a win against Macedonia inside Old Trafford when they had a goalless draw.
When you have an over confident manager who really doesn't have a fucking clue what he is doing this is the result, McLaren thought he was going to walk into that job totally re arrange the team and win trophies.
I remember this as if it was yesterday, Beckham was my hero growing up, this match hurts me 10x more as it meant I would never see Beckham play for England in an international tournament again. How I felt when Crouch scored the equaliser was second to none, I celebrated that goal as if it was a last minute winner, I'll never forgive McClaren for this.
What about the players such as Terry, Lampard and Gerrard who let their country down by not performance? McClaren wasn't entirely at fault although we were certain to achieve nothing under him.
@@purpledragons1146 Not much Gerrard or Lampard could do about that awful defence and goalkeeper tbf, it should have been 8-2. Plus it was common knowledge by 2007 that they couldn’t play together in midfield yet McLaren still did it.
Oh god this game. Don't think I've ever felt worse as an England fan honestly. Looking back now Bilic's Croatia & Hiddink's Russia were WAY better than I ever gave them credit for at the time, if I remember right both had very good Euro 2008 tournaments, but even so this felt horrible. Iceland had nothing on this. That England team was ordinary & the manager was having mares all over the place, being embarrassed by them felt inevitable. This England team I expected better.
@@andrewjoyce9038 I'd mentally prepared for that, got more than enough practice coping with losing on penalties as an England fan lol. Plus my club has lost a Champions League Final on penalties so wasn't new territory for me.
And Big Sam lasting one game before having to leave. Okay Southgate is not a football genius but people seem to forget just how terrible England were for pretty much a decade before he took over.
Classic BBC pundits... in 2006 (Croati won 1st leg 2:0) & 2007 talking about "bad english performance"... in 2018 as well... talking only about themselves... underestimating and never giving Croatia due credit... and they were beaten by world class team in all three occasions... completely detached from reality... just keep on doing that!
You're right that Ego, self-absorption (not the same as healthy confidence and self-regard, just backing oneself) and worst of all complacency are still the ruin of England nt. Until that's completely gone, we'll never win a cup.
This game imo shuts down the idea that England not winning anything in this period was down to them simply not being good enough. Loads of these players ended their careers with Premier league and champions league medals, yet they couldn't even qualify for the euros? Definitely something wrong with their attitude...
The pressure and expectation at that time was too much. Their club managers evolved tactically but the England managers were still playing a rigid 4-4-2 most of the time. Beckham had too much influence and was undroppable for a long time.
@@leemc5646 "Beckham had too much influence and was undroppable for a long time." If Beckham hadn't come on at half time England would've lost 3+ - 0. The only player with any passion for the national team in this period, when you consider players like Terry and Cole stayed at home.
@@TPH250290 *What difference would that make if Croatia beat us 4, 5, 6 to nil,* (which they should have have done anyway)? England didn't deserve anything from this match and it was a blessing that really we didn't qualify for that tournament. If we have kept it to a drew and gone through, it would have been an *complete* injustice to Croatia to how they handled the game and played and how we performed. If we really deserved a place at Euro 2008, we *should not* have drawn at Israel away and Macedonia at home. Also, despite his passion that night, Becks made poor judgement in marking for Croatia's winning goal and it was his influence again that made Capello's reign crash and burn that came after this, not to mention good-old 4-4-2 and media/FA pressure.
They won those accolades surrounded by talented foreign counterparts. To this day, it’s the foreign talent that gives the EPL its status. This England were mediocre and so were their results. Current England squad have a lot to prove and conquer
Euro 2008 as a whole was given a *massive* favour. The only ones for feel sorry for was Israel (with that excellent win against Russia proving all in vain).
Very entertaining game to watch but my god England were shambolic. Drawing against the likes of Israel and Macedonia prior to this is a disgrace. Even during this game, they had absolutely no control and couldn't really maintain possession. Just hoofball up to lanky Crouch. This was a team that prioritised club football over England. When people criticise Southgate and the current england team, I point them to the golden generation and the team prior to 2018. There's proper unity and passion in the team. We actually control games now and we qualify for tournaments comfortably. And when we get to tournaments, we actually go deep (Semis in 2018, Final in 2021 and unlucky to lose against France in QF 2022). So when we inevitably go deep in Euro 2024 and lose to France in the semis or final, look back on games like this before crying about the team.
Isreal's home record was very good in this qualifying tournament, even though England should've sneaked a win. The home game against Macedonia was the match that cost them qualification.
Englands penalty was spotted by the linesman, whistled by the referee, lamprad stepped up and scored it all of this in under 30 seconds. Fast forward to 2024, penalty takes anything from 8 minutes to be confirmed or denied. The once was a beautiful sport.
Can thank the system they finally put it place for the kids for that. 20 yrs later we see the results. We looked at our fierce enemies and took what they did. Now we have replaced them, other than the trophys that is.
@@MegaDeansy I was on about yhe young players and the training they were given. And in that case we have matched and now bettered them. The f u on about. Having your own chat with yourself. Not even reading what i was on about. F youtube for ya. Full of clowns.
Yeah, they were terrible on that day. They were utter shit when they lost 2-3 to Croatia and never made it to Euro 2008... Shocking when Steve McClaren lost his job as England manager and the infamous Italian football manager, Fabio Capello took over the team long before Gareth Southgate!
@@josephhall1995 You must remember *how* lacking the "Golden Generation" of the England national football team was. No goalkeepers, no strikers makes a lot. Doesn't matter how many stars/names you fit into a squad.
The star of this match is...the kid in front of Scott Carson singing the England national anthem. That's what you call passion! This England team could have done with him on the pitch lol. Actually, England didn't deserve to lose the game because they came back from 2-down.
The defeat against Netherlands was not a shocking because at that time they still had some world class players like Ronald Koeman and Dennis Bergkamp. However, I will still consider that 0-2 loss as humiliating because a win must be required for England to keep them alive. The last game against San Marino is meaningless because had Serenissima didn't score the shocking goal, England are still failed to qualify if they lost to Dutch side.
Iceland has got to be the worst one, that was basically the equivalent of a Premier League side losing to a semi professional part time team in the FA Cup.
There were pundits at the time saying the England team can only play Premier league style football I.e. Get the ball and attack get it forward quickly. International football you need more patience and keep the ball
@@leemc5646 The midfield back then didn't like tight spaces. That England squad were never favorites to win tournaments. The current England team is superior.
Beckham provides such quality yet again. Shame his teammates lacked the same commitment and class that he had. Why the hell England didn't utilise Carrick more at this time I've no idea, especially after his awesome debut season at United. But that defence, jeez....
But sky *really will* be the limit in 11-15 years time! 💕👏 PS: Luka Modric. *WHAT A PLAYER!* If *only* we over here in England had trained and neutered Paul Gascoigne the same way during the 1990s decade.
In 2006, I actually placed a bet on England to not qualify from this group. I just thought Croatia, Russia and Israel would be tough opponents for them and they were being under estimated (typical pundits) IMO. Anyway, I put £10 at 11/2. I actually thought they were quite short odds and remember feeling disappointed. Still, I placed the bet and 15 months later, collected my winnings. Also, every time I watch back these games/highlights, when England got knocked out - the pundits have always been over confident about England winning the game. The ultimate kiss of death.
What did you expect from a cb pairing of Cambpell and Lescott in hindsight. Not saying any of them were bad but that was such a odd and random cb pairing
@@seanpadraigobrien1260 he didn’t leave spurs till he was about 27/28. He was brilliant at spurs, the English media just didn’t realise how good he was
Yep, wanted to bathe in failure for a bit 😂 but the players we have today are so much better than we had, then, so no excuse for the woeful performance tonight
Honestly, the English defending was shambolic. Probably the effect of not using Michael Carrick at all in the defensive midfield position and then the likes of John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Ashley Cole not even playing. I remember this was a big deal that England failed to make a major tournament, there was such an outcry in 2007 and who knows what England might have done at had they even qualified for Euro 2008 because the Golden Generation was certainly on their last legs.
@Tadhg Lattimore I mean 2010 they lost all momentum with the Wayne Rooney injury before the World Cup and then Robert Green blunder in the first game shot all sort of confidence in that team
@@tashrif46 that doesnt make any sense. How can you lose all momentum because of an injury to one player. France lost multiple players this world cup and were still mentally strong. And as for greens mistake, one gk mistake cannot make a whole team lose confidence they made it through the group. They lost momentum because they shrink in the limelight and play with no courage. They had more than enough quality to do well in both tournaments. They were mentally weak from the start waiting for a mistake or injustice to blame.
@Tadhg Lattimore well thats a credit for France and Didier Deschamps that they didn't. But England relied on Wayne Rooney for goals and it was clear that he was nowhere near 100%. And after that Green mistake, they lost all confidence. The evidence is in their performance, they played safe and not to lose. Dont ask me why.
How poor was England midfield this game? Down 3-2 with 14 mins left and couldn't get control of the ball. Gerrard and Lampard were a disaster in the last 10 minutes . 11 years after this game and Croatia led by Modric destroyed England midfield again. Kinda funny
@@longlovesretrohappened cause Capello detected immediately Croatia's biggest problem at that time and that was the lack of even decent left fullback. Šimunić who played in this game was a centre back, Babić (on the bench) was a left misfielder and later Pranjić was a midfielder (even winger at Herenveen) before that. Cappelo put the fastest player on right wing (first wallcot and then lennon), took all of his good passers on the left side (gerrard I believe) who would then send long balls on the right wing. 9 goals in 2 games and 8 of them came from that. Croatia just didn't have the player on the left who could defend 1v1 a skilled dribler
Few things I remember about this game (as a Croat): After winning the first match 2:0, entire England kept talking how a huge disgrace was to loose (although I agree on that comic own goal), almost like loosing from San Marino Before this match, english media started talking how Russians promised Croatian football federation a ton of money, cars etc if they win (never happened) and that they'll play for Russia. Rusians worrying that Croatia won't play at their 100% as already being qualified and Cro answering to both how they play for themselves, not England, not Russia. English pundits saying how England is better at literally everything and that England needs to beat by several goals as a payback for first game. Cro players being treated almost like illegals at the airport. All of that pretty much motivated cro players to hell and back. After the game, English media proclaiming Lampard as Motm, noone knows why, without penalty you wouldn't even know the was there. And after McClaren was sacked, media writing to whoever becoms new selector rules that he has to follow and one of them that England MUST ALWAYS PLAY IN 4-4-2
I also remember going to watch this match at a pub with my Dad and his best mate, but I was so ill that night my mum had to pick me up and take me home
As much as I think it maybe time for Southgate to move on, its worth remembering just how dire things were in the past and this really was a low point, ha!
I agree, we should criticise Southgate when he gets it wrong, but his tenure overall has been poles apart from what we used to sit through under failed England managers like Hodgson, Capello, and McLaren. England nowadays get booed off at half time by some of the younger fans when they’re not battering the other team, which shows how far England have come because they used to be a lot lot worse.
When people moan about Southgate I think back to these days, love him or hate him he’s brought us a long way. Tactically in this game there was not a clue, players look void of passion or interest. Great players in the squad.
Southgate is worse tactically. He's just managing a much better England talent pool and has got an insane amount of luck with draws. Not to mention the overall standard of other international sides has dropped.
@@MrKAKARONALDOMESSI When we robbed Scotland of a place in Euro 2000? Not to mention it would have done that tournament *as much* of a favour as this did.
Before Southgate came in England were a shambles not qualifying for the 1994 World Cup, failed to qualify for euro 2008, didn’t get out of the group in Brazil 2014 and the biggest one was losing to Iceland at euro 2016
Steve McLaren did not even bother to shake Bilic's hand at the end. Incredible feeling of entitlement. Where do the FA find these managers? England had great players, both in 2007 and 2018, but cannot capitalise.
McLaren had to go after this disastrous performance. I could never understand why he jettisoned Paul Robinson so quickly, who had done well in goal before making one bad mistake in the away defeat to Croatia. Bringing in Scott Carson for this game certainly didn't work.
It’s like a game from a whole different era. For those who weren’t around, this is an education. This is how dreadful England used to be sometimes. Carson in the first half looked like someone who had won a competition to play for England. The tactics for the whole game were horrid as well. McLaren had England playing like a Non league side with all of the long balls up to Peter Crouch. (probably the only England player here who put in a shift!)
Watching this back 16 years on, wow how truly shocking were we. our back 4, the midfield and forwards, so overrated and absolutely zero ability to play a string of successful passes together. Beckham stood out for me, he actually looked like a player.
@@hussainmartins5985 *His bearing influence over the squad during Capello's time in charge!* (e.g. face off every magazine, must start, be vice-captain if Terry's injured, etc.). Although overrated, Capello should have *just for the love of might* taken a punt on David Bentley, with Becks coming on as sub, *not* the other-way-round.
Terrible managing from McLaren here. He chose Carson in goal over James who had more experience, which Croatia took advantage of. Why pick Carson in such a crucial game?
it was more *probably* Terry Venables (his assistant manager) and John Terry (his absentee captain) behind those. Steve McClaren just probably went along with those two.
1. England were gifted another chance to qualify by the freak result of Israel beating Russia. 2. England only needed a draw. 3. Croatia had already qualified. BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD
