Enshrine or Decline: Alex Rodriguez's case for the Hall of Fame | Outside the Lines 

Big Papi got in . He juiced. It's a popularity contest already.

@@747heavyboeing3 Ortiz took a supplement that contained a banned ingredient on accident You make it seem like he shot up his glutes, which he did not

Not necessarily. You must keep in mind that Alex Rodriguez, was a bigger doouchbag then Bonds and Clemens.

@@hugosegura6287 Disagree. Nobody was a bigger douchebag than Bonds. Arguably the most hated player of the early 2000's.

@@DCampusano1 , Bonds might have been a bigger AHole, but Rodriguez, is still number #1, Dooshbag!!!

Big Papi just got in. He used.

Pudge, and Bagwell are in and they used this argument doesn’t make since lmao

@@hoodiejelo6456 Schilling isn't in though, and neither are Bonds or Clemens, so it's you not making sense.

@@jamiealexander7065 you missed the whole point and I meant Bagwell not Schilling.

@@hoodiejelo6456 that's because you edited your comment, and those guys were never "officially caught" like Bonds and Clemens. The voters are wrong either way, all of them should be celebrated.

Yeah but I say no because they will give it to anyone else who juice

He missed that whole year he would have over 700 hrs 730 more then Ruth

He had absolutely nothing good to say about him lol. That's the problem

😂😂 Fr I know what he meant cause Arod is clearly more knowledgeable than most in baseball and it’s history but to say he knows babe Ruth and Mantle was retarded lmao

Is there concrete evidence that he started using only for those 2-3 yrs?

@@danieldominguez5863 it's known bonds used steriods from 99-04. Is he not a hof before and after?

@@danieldominguez5863 Hes a hall of Famer like Rose but it's a popularity contest now. No Clemens either.

Let me guess, you're from NYC or Boston or San Francisco or possibly Cincinnati. The rest of the country calls these guys by their real names: cheating assholes.

@@Anthony-hu3rj Wow. You're a presumption person. Here's the deal: every era has its asterisk. The Selig Era, The Pre-1947 Whites Only Era, The Three Expansion Eras, The WWI and WWII Eras, The Slow to Integrate Era, The Deadball Era, The Spitball Era, The Amphetamine Era, The 1960s Pitching Era, etc. Era Bias is massively hypocritical. They belong.

There were more ballplayers that did steroids at that time that still sucked ,especially pitchers,

@@Anthony-hu3rj and the guys that played prior to 1947 RACIST FUCKS

Honestly that is the stupidest argument I have ever heard of. No black people in the game does not change accomplishments of those that did play in relation to their peers.

Good think no one cares about your opinion.

@@robertmcnearny9222 he's right they saved baseball after the strike and are being shunned for it while Bud Selig is enshrined for no reason at all. Let them all in and pete rose.

Controversial opinion but Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player ever

Big papi too then...

@@johnpaulkerrigan7975 big papi wasn’t close to as good as bonds and a rod. He’ll still be a hall of famer eventually though

@@BrassMan85 as a pittsburgh native, i would agree if he never juiced. he was a perennial 30/30, gold glove-caliber player with pirates before the juice. not denying he was a great player, just the juice both screwed up his overall game and his legit standing. griffey jr. to me is the greatest even with the injury, and if he never gets injured it wouldn't even be a debate in my opinion.

@@OB-xf3jz yea. Fair enough. My opinion on it though is that it seems most people vastly overate what steroids do. For example I’ve seen people who beleive it like instantely just makes you bigger stronger and that it ruins your body. Which is just not true. All it really does is help heal your muscle tissue faster. And it has a few side effects. But he worked just as much as he would have had to before, but he was just able to do it in a way shorter time because he was never sore. Also sorry my grammar sucks

I guess one player snitching on another isn't enough proof for the voters. Arod, Bonds and Clemons have had federal cases built against them.

@@TheOldSchoolGamer93 And what's sad is Clemens would be like the Tom Brady of baseball except for his bone-headed decision to do PED's.

Rodriguez and Piazza unfortunately got in because it wasn’t revealed that they cheated until after they got into the hall.

@@soarinskies1105 I thought IRod got in well after Canseco’s book came out?

@@tigerwoods232000 correct he stopped playing in 2010

Jlo is like a punching bag, anyone can hit it

don't forget my Brett Butler LADodger ok kid "Jay"

Same no lie

Dude was certified douche bag was a complete no show in the post season and his antics brought nothing but negativity to baseball that's why I don't like him. But I say let all the steroid baby's in HOF. But none of these cheaters will ever be able to tie Griffeys cleats.

He should NOT get in based on cheating -- one play alone -- knocking the ball out of the glove of the first basement in a playoff game. Unless you like cheaters, of course.

Its not going to happen. If they won't let in Clemens or Bonds, A-rod certainly doesn't have a chance.

@@Anthony-hu3rj in that case same with David Ortiz

A-Roid unabashed liar!

@@DMalltheway Great point Daniel. How come no one has a problem with David Ortiz getting in? Because he's likable Big Papi? He was a juicer for at least part of his career, so if that is a disqualifier then how come no one has issue he is in. Bonds was a way better player than Ortiz, by light years.

How many times were players suspended for racism prior to 1947? 🤔🤔

Well thats silly, they hold no relation to each other with far different transcendent careers. It's so silly it is littered with holes like why is Ortiz in hall, or piazza, or ivan? Why hasnt pettitte who was better than piazza and Ortiz received the call? The question is Bonds a hall of famer, and is ARod a hall of famer, reach your answer logically instead of irrationally.

So... I take it you're willing to overlook 2 PED suspensions.

JETER WAS NEVER LINKED TO STEROIDS HE’S THE MODEL OF CONSISTENCY AND DESERVED TO BE UNANIMOUS CHOICE

@@Nunnayadambiness it was 1 ped suspension

@@joel8692 fair enough...

Arod never failed a test, he was suspended by an independent investigatory arm thought it was right to gollow on leads regarding Braun's failed test, at worst it was unconstitutional and at best targeting AROD, and he shouldve probably been protected by his union. I am a Yankee fan, Jeter is my favorite player, but if were talking baseball, A Rod was sooooo much better clearly. You cant write yankee history without Jeter and you cant write that dynasty without him, BUT you cant write about 90s and 00s baseball without Arod. What is the purpose of the hall of fame if the people who defined the era arent in? Manny Bonds A Rod Sosa and McGwire were clear first ballot players on the eye test, who had everyones dreams and fears whenever were in the box. I love Jeter but he was never that, the totality of his career makes Jeter first ballot, when he was breaking his bones, people questioned if he even deserved to be in ARod's class or Nomar and later Tejada. Clearly a lot of that thinking was wrong but thats what people thought who were involved in that era, were simply not letting the best players in.

He was on fire in the 2009 playoffs, and came up w several clutch hits. Like World Series Game 4's 2 run game breaking double off brad lidge in the 9th inning.

@@dfcintron every yankees player recognizes this but what about the yrs before 09

He did however play a pivotal role in the 09’ championship season. Post season and all.

Thank you! I think people sometimes over exaggerate the effect of PED’s. If you have zero coordination and can’t hit a ball if your life depended on it, then PED’s are not going to all of a sudden make you more coordinated. If you can’t aim to pitch a strike, yes, you’ll throw harder but you’ll be walking a lot of hitters. Smh.

@@keepcalm1224 agreed 100%

Roids give you more strength and stamina which are very important in sport like please most mlb hitters have natural talent but extra strength and stamina does a lot

@@BxAllMightYy There have been cases in which players have been busted, however still did not put up numbers like greats that got busted.

Corrupt ?? They broke rules and cheated

THANK YOU!!!!!

BUT RACISM IS NOT CHEATING… BABE RUTH DIDNT COMPETE WITH JOSH GIBSON! BABE RUTH DIDNT PLAY AGAINST DOMINICANS … YOU KNOW WHY? CUZ OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN… WAY WORST THAT ANY DRUG OR PED

@@mrsmith3869 I understand what you're saying about babe Ruth only playing against white folks. I would use that argument when people say he's the goat because of what you just said me personally I don't have him as the goat I think it's Willie Mays BUT the greatest I've SEEN before injuries would have to be Ken Griffey Jr it would have been Barry bonds before ped's and that's based on their skills not skin color or background. I would love to hear about babe going against Satchel Paige, man what. I'm just trying to connect that (racism part) with someone that has cheated using ped's.

Pete Rose was a hof as well and I would like to see him enshrined but guess what, not happening.

To is in the HoF guy

@@FGPlus lol I stand corrected

@@worldwidereek he just didn't have a ceremony like the others he held a private one