The biggest takeaways from the Baseball Hall of Fame voting results | Outside the Lines 

Ortiz was loved by media. Bonds was vilified. Moral of the story.

they're killing baseball slowly but surely

MLB benefited and turned a blind eye to steroids in 90’s which helped the MLB grow and literally saved baseball. MLB so hypercritical smh.

Basically the MLB doing revisionist history. Meanwhile baseball itself benefited by only being in the position it is in because people wanted to watch those same players.

Barry bonds should be in the hall of Fame

David Ortiz career stats from baseball reference for his 20 seasons: WAR: 55.3 Hits: 2472 HR: 541 BA: .286 RBI: 1768 OBP: .380 OPS: .931 OPS+: 141 First ballot Hall of Famer Fred McGriff career stats from baseball reference for his 19 seasons: WAR: 52.6 Hits: 2490 HR: 493 BA: .284 RBI: 1550 OBP: .377 OPS: .886 OPS+: 134 Only had 39.8% votes in his 10th and final year on the ballot. Can someone please explain why one of these players is a first ballot HOFer and the other is not?

Bonds was the greatest player I ever saw. Still have an autographed picture of me and him from 1988 too. Was a super nice guy (contrary to popular opinion).

If it's that big a deal, then let the players protest on the field. Let the players handle it. Screw the writers anyway

Integrity and character have never been important in baseball🤣

There should be an announcement and forced enshrinement of Bonds. Having Ortiz in the Hall before Bonds frankly invalidates the enshrinement of everyone else in the hall of fame. It now means nothing. Best baseball player ever needs to be in the hall. If you admitted not voting for him, you should absolutely lose your vote. These pundits have to go. No more control of the sport for them. Get out a here

Bonds was baseball.they can't deprive him of all the records he broke.

As a Yankees fan and a fan of baseball i am so happy for David Ortiz. I hope one day Pete Rose, ARod, Bonds all get in. If baseball can make money off these players while they was using, all of them should be in the HOF!. These players made the sport relevant again!.

Bonds is the best ever dude, and im an angels fan that saw him in 2002 world series and was mind blown with the home runs he hit off Krod and Percival…

Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he used HGH!

That David Ortiz is the Greatest Power Hitter/ Dh 2 ever play the Game!

Y'all can hate Barry but he never tested positive HGH

Everything Tim said is a reason why I believe they still should be in thw HoF even if they got that stereos era next to there names

Also, the whole voting process needs to be simplified. If a guy is a “Hall of Famer”, then he should be in upon retirement. Or after one round of votes. It shouldn’t take up to 10 years to figure that out, when memories of them playing is so distant. You can’t vote off of a stat sheet or highlight reel. Do better!

Put barry bonds in the hall of fame he's not the only player to use peds and won't be the last heck half of the guys in the hall of fame could've used some kind of ped we would never know because they never got caught he was already a hof before the enhancements check the man's stats before not after if you feel a little bit salty

Let certain cheaters in and take it a step further and how the media writers etc have turned Brady into the golden child and he’s the biggest cheater of them all

I'm happy for Papi but the Baseball Hall of Fame voters are *HYPOCRITES*

There are plenty of pitchers in the Hall of Fame who admittedly doctored the baseball throughout their entire career. That's a competitive advantage. There were guys who played on amphetamines most of their career, again, a competitive advantage. Anyone who has played ball at a competitive level can tell you that you can take all the juice, all the drugs, anything you want, it's not going to help you hit a curveball, it's not going to help you throw 100 mph, it's not going to help you catch up to a 100 mph fastball. The difference between juice and no juice is the 10 ft difference between a fly ball to the warning track and a home run. Admittedly, thats the difference between an all star and a role player, but in both cases you still have to put bat on ball. I'm not saying that it's ok for ball players to do it, but for this one particular era of players to be vilified, especially those in the 80s and 90s who played when there was no testing or even a written rule banning it from the game is ridiculous. If they have the numbers they should all be in the HOF and so should Pete Rose \m/

You can NOT talk about baseball history without Pete Rose, Barry Bonds and even Curt Schilling. Who cares about their personal lives and steroids. They were the best at what they did for years!!!

Yankees fan here, so happy mi hermano David Ortiz made it to the HOF. But, Bonds, Clemmons, Sosa, McGuire and many others who were involved in the so called PED era deserve a nod to the HOF. They are always compared to "clean" players like Ruth, Cobb Mantle and others, but we don't know what they may have been taking prior to testing coming to MLB.

The baseball HOF is a mockery without Barry Bonds in it.

Better not see any ‘17 Astro players ever in the HOF if Bonds or even Rose ain’t in smh

Congratulations David Ortiz you deserve it

Barry Bonds Stats As A Pittsburgh Pirate ALONE Should Put Him In The Hall Of Fame ! You Writers Never Even Threw A Baseball ! Shame On You .

Curt deserves to be in for sure.

Salute Big PAPI!!!!!!!!!!!

They shouldn't talk about integrity when David Ortiz actually tested positive for taking steroids back in 2003. If he's able to get in on the first ballot, then they have no excuse for keeping Bonds and Clemens out.

They need to change the rules in coopertown

Someone needs to explain to me why Barry Bonds shouldn’t be a hall of famer without saying the word steroids

When is John Rocker's name gonna come up?😒

YES BIG PAPI IS IN FELISIDADE DAVID ORTIZ

Wait I'm lost. Why is this hall of fame only one person?

That the writers are hypocrites and it is a popularity contest.

All of the executives are in the Hof and they kept the money and the world series trophies count so why not put them in the Hof not to mention it did save baseball

So did he just admit he didn’t vote for bonds for 9 years because he was tight with hank Aaron? Idk why in the heck are these losers even voting? Media writers? Did they play professionally? Why can’t the owners, GMs, coaches and players vote for the hall of fame? Why are these dorks who probably got picked on in school and all about “character and integrity” like bruh these players MADE the game!! Also, david Ortiz was on that same list as Barry bonds, and you said schilling didn’t have numbers? David Ortiz doesn’t have numbers COMPARED to bonds… bonds 7 MVPS 754 HRs close to 3,000 hits like teams would straight walk him with bases loaded to avoid pitching to him, so if you really said that about schilling, then what about Ortiz? Idk y’all hypocrites and really are biased, Baseball is dying because of y’all writers being boring and acting like the police… steroids ain’t that big of deal in professional sports like shoot a ton of nfl dudes do it, and they get suspended four games and then nobody cares, but y’all baseball people really are so uptight that you’re not letting in the best players from the best era of baseball. Y’all really tripping. Like I said, why these dork writers even have a vote who never played mlb beats me

I think Bonds, Sosa, Schilling, and Clemens will all eventually get in.

Big Papi 🤩🤩🤩

Man was MVP for MLB 7 Times that's historical record

Bruh why tf are writers in charge of the hof? Most these bozos never picked up a baseball in their lives

it's either you let all the users in or none, it's ridiculous that ortiz is in but others isn't, such a double standard.

If basing things strictly by numbers. Barry bonds would’ve been in the hall of fame a long time ago

Didn't Big Pappi have steroid allegations?

His numbers became better after 2003. When testing was being done

Baseball HOF has a lot of record breakers or setting players are not even in it sad 😔

Barry Bonds never failed a Drug test!

I'm sorry, how can you be a baseball HoF write and not know the difference between the Mitchell Report which was released in 2007 and the 2003 survey test that MLB conducted?

Mind blowing this dude doubled down on them being right.. actually crazy.

They decided that some of the best players of all time never made it. How crazy that they don’t know baseball wow

Rotate and randomize voters. Really sick of these gatekeepers. I don’t even like Bonds but he was the best player ever playing the best players around the world. Why is Babe Ruth in? He didn’t play the best players, he played against nobodies but he’s in.

Get rid of these old grumpy stuck in there way writers like Rob Parker they ruined the game an are hypocrites + when baseball trys 2 adapt they bash them for ruining the slow boring old ways of the game that they grew up on! Baseball isn't the top sport anymore not even 2nd probably barely even 3rd tbh!

Over half the league was and still is on p.e.d. They have to let these guys in. They are basically saying if you don't get caught it's ok. I watched a documentary that investigated doping in sports and it basically changed my view on these p.e.d. guys getting in. So many players use p.e.d in all sports and it's got to be hard to nit do it to when the guys your competing with are all the sudden better stronger and faster than you and don't workout any harder. It even uncovered that all American choir boy Peyton Manning allegedly used at least during his comeback from the neck injury. Oh and he just got inducted in the N.F.L H.O.F. It's not fair to keep the guys out from the steroid era and the Mitchell report just because there era had an investigation. Do another investigation and there will be just as many names.

I’m confused, didn’t David Ortiz actually fail a steroid test? With that logic it says that we know David Ortiz did steroids but we still let him in. Why is Barry Barnes not in there then?

The Baseball Hall of Fame is illegitimate and needs to be disbanded

The fact that David Ortiz is getting into sports most highly coveted HOF. Shows, what a popularity contest it is.

Achieving the 500 HR milestone used to mean automatic entry into the Hall of Fame. Every single player before the steroid era ballplayers were in. In fact, only 6 players who have hit 500 or more home runs are not in the hall of fame - Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Manny Ramirez, Gary Sheffield and Sammy Sosa. All six suspected and accused of using banned substances. Most would agree that Barry Bonds was the best all around player of the six. However, how do you extrapolate what a player would or would not have accomplished? How can you determine how much steroids padded each player’s numbers? Many want to jump right out there and completely disregard Sosa’s 609 home runs, although only 9 players have reached that. We laugh at the mention of Gary Sheffield and hall of fame being in the same sentence. We scoff at the fact that Manny Ramirez has 7 more home runs than the great Mike Schmidt. Fact is, I don’t know many folks that see Gary Sheffield as a hall of famer, even though he hit 509 home runs. So, yeah let’s get rid of him. But how can you punish Sheffield without punishing Ramirez or Palmeiro for doing the exact same thing? And then how can you punish those three without punishing, Big Mac, Sosa, and yes even the great Barry Bonds. Either they get punished or they don’t. Either they lose votes because they used banned substances or they don’t. You can’t cherry pick who you are going to punish when they all did the same thing. Above everything, I don’t feel bad for Barry Bonds and I will tell you why. He let his ego get in the way of his trip to Cooperstown. Bonds was jealous of lesser talented players getting more accolades then him. So, like many, he broke the rules. But Barry you jughead! If you had just laid off the steroids, you would have had enough merit in your numbers without the juice to make the hall of fame. Most likely you would have wound up with somewhere between 600 and 700 home runs and still would have been the only player with 500 stolen bases and 500 home runs. Still 2500+ hits, 1500+ RBIs, etc. Point being, HOF numbers if only you didn’t let your head size triple. So no, I can’t feel sorry for a guy who was stupid. The all time Home Run leaders list is littered with fakes and phonies and frankly it is a disgrace to guys like Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and Babe Ruth.

Some of these guys got pinched even after the guidelines were laid down.

Where's Lou Whitaker? Not a Yankee so he doesn't matter?

How many players in MLB have 400 steal and 400 home run

Asinine that anyone would use the character argument. There are scads of guys in the Hall of Fame that should be disqualified due to their character. Until that happens, let’s stop using character as a barometer in determining a player’s worthiness.

say what you want to say about steroids and the hall, but in my opinion none of the admitted steroids users should never get that honor before Pete Rose, you wanna talk about being screwed, Pete's your man!

Rob Manfred moved the MLB All-Star game from the ATL to Colorado in 2021. He did that because the state of Colorado (majority white people) had more restrictions on voting than the state of Georgia (majority African Americans). 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Why do the writers that never played Pro Baseball get a vote as to whom gets into the HoF. Half of these writers never made past Little League, let players vote base off of what each of these did on the field of play because that is what's important: not because you as a writer have a personal grudge and this is how you are able to get back and get even.

Wait a minute… the Mitchell Report was released in 2007, not 2003. And Ortiz’ name was most definitely NOT in it.

Basically the Baseball Writers are a joke. By electing Big Snappy, a player who tested positive for PEDs with inferior numbers they simply proved themselves to be a bunch of worthless drunken scribblers carrying on a personal vendetta against players who weren't cuddly with them. They did a similar thing to Dave Kingman who for many years was the only player with more than 400 HRs not enshrined because he had run ins with media weasels. Kingman successfully sued Baseball for blackballing him out of the game because he hit 36 HRs in his final season and had hit 100 in his last three. The baseball scribblers naturally didn't report it at the time because I guess they were pretending to be political journalists

there are documented racists in the basebal hof how important is character really

No dopes in the HOF 🚫

If you want to put in Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, Palmeiro, et al, fine! Just make sure that Pete Rose and the ghost of Shoeless Joe Jackson is waiting for them at the front door of the Hall!

Are you serious? Barry Bonds is not a hall of famer, steroids or not? Barry Bonds is like Ken Griffey Jr and Mark Mcgwire combined.

If you’re a Red Sox you have better chance to make HoF over a Yankee. It’s bias. Plan and simple

Fine

If Pete rose is not allowed in the hall of fame neither should these guys

If they got it right(3:50), then why is gaylord perry in? Unbelievable....PLUS manny got 28%??? How is THAT possible? If manfred gives papi a pass whom else would get one? So they are gonna listen to a know nothing commissioner??? Wow

Wow he didn’t vote Barry because of his friendship with Aaron?! These writers are nerds who have huge egos

Schilling being left out is ridiculous. The writer's simply don't like his political views. He is not accused of cheating or betting and yet because he wouldnt kiss the ring, he is out.

Biggest take away would be it's time to vote for whom gets to make the votes....that the whole process is absolute dog @#$& filled with politics more shady then the backside of the moon.

Wait...and next year the writers will do the same with Jeff Kent, the second baseman with most home runs in his career and with and MVP on his belt. According to the writers he doesn't deserve to be in. Bunch of clowns

I hate the baseball writers I hate everyone that didn't vote bonds

Quick fact check: Ortiz did NOT test positive. His test was "Inconclusive" because there was so little of the unidentifiable substance that it wouldn't qualify as negative OR positive. Bud Selig even came out and said that Ortiz never tested positive for PED's. Clemens & Bonds DID test positive for the Mitchell report.

Totally ridiculous leaving out the greatest players and disregarding what they did accomplish. It’s a man’s sport I would agree if it were teenagers and younger going this direction but it’s not Babe Ruth was a raging drunk. You guys are killing anything the baseball Accomplishes. I would like to see watching baseball writers have done in the past then we can judge you.

Pete Rose should never be in the Hall of Fame while he's alive. "I didn't do it! I didn't do it! I didn't do it! I didn't do it! I DID do it and for $24.95 you can buy my book and find out how!" --- Pete Rose

This is bull Ortiz can’t even run the bases he is not a first ballot hof player. Barry bonds is one of the best position players in the history of the game.

Hey Jeremy Schaap, just because you don't like what someone said doesn't make it hate speech. It's just speech you don't like. There is a difference. It's funny how some people try to sound intelligent and educated but they end up looking like a total moron. I don't agree with everything Schilling said but that doesn't make it hate speech. Everyone's opinion in America is important and should be heard. Even if you don't like it. That's why it's free speech and not limited speech.

I applaud baseball for having the guts to not honor those who took away from the game with steroids and gambling. It’s more than just being a highly polished athlete. Examples matter.

Bonds is the greatest baseball player Ever Period.

All the voters are old that's the problem

Shmucks

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Smh what a true bunch of clowns! And yes I mean the "writers"! Smh

These guys are jokes to baseball and the HOF. Curt Schilling doesnt have HOF number???? GTGOH

Congratulations David Ortiz, for cheating your way into the Hall of Fame.

So 3100 strike outs are not hall of fame numbers ha WA is a joke

no Lou Whitaker ???????????????????????? glad the sports writer's stupidity will be saved for as long as the internet exists.

If it wasn't for their juicing up and hitting the home runs we all cheered for,,those 5 made base ball come back from a strike out that would have ruined baseball to this day,,so I'd like to thank,that men who made this possible,Patrick Arnold the main chemist that made real good potent PTDs , Bolco big shot , Victor Conte ,and proving they work great .is Barry bonds, Marc McGuire, Sammy Sosa,Roger Clements, and that peice of s....,Jose Conseco..,,A Rod...he had no nuts before the test,,lol worth Hundreds of millions ,but not smart enough to learn how to micro dose his gear,,to all of you ,,we salute you

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These two clearly let bias speak and I hate what the HOF has become. Stuff like this hurts the game