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Ep172: Is the LDS Church Trying to Infiltrate Evangelical Christianity? Affidavit Exposes the Plan 

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On this episode of Mormonish Podcast Rebecca and Landon dive into the latest affidavit in the ongoing Tim Ballard lawsuits. This affidavit was given on June 4th by Ryan Fisher, a close associate and business partner of Tim Ballard.
The details of this affidavit were so surprising to Mormonish that we had to drop everything and create an episode to dissect the shocking allegations.
If true, the systematic plan put in place by Elder M. Russell Ballard to have Tim Ballard infiltrate the world of evangelical Christianity for the purpose of spreading Mormonism, would have huge repercussions.
Watch as we go through the entire affidavit and come to your own conclusions.
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@IndySpirit
@IndySpirit 3 месяца назад
The one I'd like to see investigated is Thom Harrison. He was involved with Chad Daybell, Jodi Hildebrandt and Tim Ballard. He seems to be at the center of every crime in the LDS church!
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 3 месяца назад
Zinger
@tawneenielsen4080
@tawneenielsen4080 3 месяца назад
I'd love that as well
@DirtmopAZ
@DirtmopAZ 3 месяца назад
Mormon Church: Sneaking it in the back door since 1830.
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 3 месяца назад
Mormon Cult Church: Racist since 1830 and beyond.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
Not really : they have been exposed for a long time.
@kentthalman4459
@kentthalman4459 3 месяца назад
In the U.S., the evangelical market are the Church's best chance for converts.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 3 месяца назад
Yes let's think back 2 Charlottesville and Trump and Jan 6th and wTrump. This crap has been going on for years. Um folks grab your brains and use them....
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
​@@marquitaarmstrong399your political evaluation is much different than the Wide gap of the Mormon Counterfeit Gospel from Evangelical Christianity.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
LOL 😂 since Mormons are always complaining about the Evangelicals Criticisms of them being NOT Christian and only a cult.
@DaddyTodd
@DaddyTodd 3 месяца назад
@@davidjanbaz7728 That's right! American Fundygelicals now worship the TRUE messiah, Donald Trump.
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him, God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@aredesuyo
@aredesuyo 3 месяца назад
I thought the timing of Elder Ballard's demise was suspicious, but now the fishiness of that timing is on a whole new level. Either they offed him to make it easier to cover things up, or the stress of all this starting to come to light was too much for him to handle in his frail condition. The colossal shame of the whole thing is mind blowing.
@tawneenielsen4080
@tawneenielsen4080 3 месяца назад
What if he's alive, just hidden somewhere? The promise that he and his family will be taken car of for generations if he falls off the map. I've wondered????
@bewitched3912
@bewitched3912 3 месяца назад
Tim was cosplaying Joseph Epstein Smith 😂
@bewitched3912
@bewitched3912 3 месяца назад
​@@tawneenielsen4080 I think he died of shame after he was exposed to have routinely used a psychic medium, the same crazy woman Timmy used to "find" missing kids in sexy town, S. America 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Time to "henna up"
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
​@@bewitched3912 THERE IS NO SHAME THERE from which any could die. The people are controlled by SHAMING by their leaders, but the "leadership" HAS NO SHAME, and by most tragic irony, THAT example IS almost "genetically" imparted to the SLAVISH congregation. [Hate to admit this, but I KNOW WHEREOF I SPEAK! 😭 🔥😭🔥]
@bewitched3912
@bewitched3912 3 месяца назад
@@sheliabryant3997 it's a real thing, just like dying of a broken heart. Besides, the old man was embarrassed he was exposed using Janet Russin, the psychic medium 🤣 for inspiration from God, pretty much admitting he isn't inspired. No, the Q12 do not have meetings with Jesus. They are full of $#it and they know it. Elder Ballard's soft white underbelly was exposed and he couldn't cope with the implications of his pathetic asanine claims of spirituality. None of them are inspired They are all dead inside because the greed of the quarter of a trillion dollar Latter-day golden calf has taken anything good and greed has fully taken over. I'd be embarrassed as hell if I pretended to be receiving answers from God and it was just Janet Russin all this time.. talk about a broken priesthood hierarchy. Can't make up new trash on their own so they brought a woman who was willing to fill them up with horseshit.. basically, "The CULT of Control The Money" has lost the cat from the proverbial bag. The internet killed the religious belief they had been pushing for two hundred years. Now, the President of the pile of money is big mad!! Lol Bunch of old controlling men trying to keep up the status quo, but like I said, that ship has sailed!!
@QuinnPrice
@QuinnPrice 3 месяца назад
I know some evangelicals who were enamored with Tim Ballard, The Sound of Freedom movie, and O.U.R...even after their problems came to light.
@summerlake356
@summerlake356 3 месяца назад
Yeah, that was my impression too. If that was the plan, it worked - apart from Tim could not keep his hands to himself.
@catherinesullivan641
@catherinesullivan641 3 месяца назад
@@summerlake356a lot of evangelicals seem to have that same problem!
@danielclingen34
@danielclingen34 3 месяца назад
Ya same. Because they, just like LDS, don’t care about abuse, they care about crazy conspiracy theories and super hero wannabe movements instead of doing actual effective good in the world.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
​​like nonreligious don't!!! LOL 😂
@bodytrainer1crane730
@bodytrainer1crane730 3 месяца назад
This story could be HUGE.
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
@bodytrainer. This story IS IMMENSE. It is Stalin and Mao at their finest collaboration, and going since 1830s. And doing exactly as Jesus warned us: claiming HIS NAME; HIS AUTHORITY; HIS AUTHENTICATION; HIS INTENTION; HIS CEDED POWER to be HIS. SEAT. OF. POWER.
@donnellallan
@donnellallan 3 месяца назад
This is fascinating! You two are doing such important work. Thank you. 💜
@AprilFriday-de6vm
@AprilFriday-de6vm 3 месяца назад
Children’s hymn, Book of Mormon Stories: “ Book of Mormon stories that my teacher tells to me; all about the Lamanites who wanted to be free; long ago their fathers came from far across the sea; given this land if they lived righteously.” Final verse: now WE are given the lands previously held by the Lamanites (since they didn’t live righteously); and we only get the land as long as we live righteously. So the native Americans deserved their displacement because they “lost” Christianity. Fun.
@sallyostling
@sallyostling 3 месяца назад
It was so much fun telling people who were big fans of The Sound of Freedom that Tim Ballard was Mormon. That immediately got their attention and for once they had to think a little critically. They really did just slide this movie ro the Christian right and tried to kick up a firestorm. No one I told who was a fan and ready to go off on a new narrative had any idea Tim was Mormon, and it made a huge difference.
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
(They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,,) that's in the Quran God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
@sallyyostling. THANK YOU for this info. I grew up in the "Southern Fundamentalist" denoms from which jo smiff appropriated a great deal of his mormon notions! But I BOUGHT INTO MOR- MONISM - as. it. was. presented - to get away from the terrors of THAT culture. And the REAL "doctrine" was kept so well hidden by the systematic teachings of Book of Mormon, with occasional snips and snatches from recognizable traditional OT/NT SCRIPTURE that even when "something felt off or squirrelly," one could not identify just WHAT was off. It is SLOW - and low-key - INDOCTRINATION wherein you are kept SO BUSY with "church work" and doggedly watchful to attain the PERFECTION - BY YOUR SELF and following the gospel of the proffits that you finally lose sense entirely or COME TO YOUR SENSES by a little phrase here or a turn there. It IS a whole DIFFERENT GOSPEL, and NOT "ANOTHER WITNESS OF JESUS CHRIST", as it purports. Refute it! Rebuke it! 👽👽
@loubylou1899
@loubylou1899 3 месяца назад
My niece who is a Mormon missionary keeps sharing posts featuring former Angel studios The Chosen Jesus. The Chosen is made by an evangelical Christian, Dallas Jenkins who has put out a video denying involvement with the Mormon Church. It seems to me though that there must be some agreement there for the image to be used without copyright issues arising.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 3 месяца назад
Um how come I came across Dear Glenn Beck up in pulpit of Evzngelucal church talking Lds baptism? Do I smell sulphur? s
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 3 месяца назад
Methinks the body doth protest 2 much. Get bent
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
​@marquitaarmstrong399 what church is that??? You're obviously not aware of the diversity of Evangelical denominations and what would be tolerated in many.
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him, God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
​@@Amiranoor88😂😂😂
@debbieshrubb1222
@debbieshrubb1222 3 месяца назад
As a convert in the 70's we were taught that America was the chosen land as you have described 🙄.
@oliveoilchic
@oliveoilchic 3 месяца назад
I tried to warn my pastor about this. He ignored me, so I left his church.
@danielclingen34
@danielclingen34 3 месяца назад
Most churches are full of abuse, hidden by the leaders and members,might as well avoid all of them.
@CountryBwoy
@CountryBwoy 3 месяца назад
As a Southern black man anything called "The Underground Railroad" that doesn't have anything to with American Slavery Abolition/Escape needs to find another damn name. Especially with the talk of using White Christian Nationalist talking points. These people would have no problem with slavery. 🖕🏾
@annwood6812
@annwood6812 3 месяца назад
I think many people have had the same reaction. I'm not big into fussing about "cultural appropriation" but this is over the top.
@Rckcasa4118
@Rckcasa4118 3 месяца назад
I’m so glad it isn’t just me. From day one I was extremely pissed that this group stole this name. Many an argument I’ve gotten into with my very Mormon extended family regarding this. When I first heard the name, I was like, EXCUSE ME?! What?!
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
​​​@@annwood6812 The CLINICAL DEFINITION of the word and concept of "Appropriation" is MORMONISM (in all its permutations, "transformations", NEW old doctrine/revelations, and name-changing).
@isabel_hendrix
@isabel_hendrix 3 месяца назад
Wowww, amazing coverage. Thank you!
@orisonorchards4251
@orisonorchards4251 3 месяца назад
Tim Ballard has a go fund me for his legal defense with a sob story about providing for all of his nine children.
@kellybrandon1179
@kellybrandon1179 3 месяца назад
Sean will help out
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 3 месяца назад
Give Tim a break. Do you think it is cheap to take your RM son to a strip club and indulge?
@susaneweinberg4411
@susaneweinberg4411 3 месяца назад
Grifters gonna grift
@summerlake356
@summerlake356 3 месяца назад
Hi from Sweden. Lots of Christians and nationalists here, heard of Sound of Freedom and thought it was super cool. The Mormon connection was too complex and foreign for anyone to understand. They just believed he was an American Christian. I gave up trying to explain. The fallout is not known here. But then again, very few people here, convert to LDS.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 3 месяца назад
Swedish Rescue Mormon Stories Podcast. Hans Masden et al
@michealcobia7869
@michealcobia7869 3 месяца назад
Ive made this claim for years. The goal is what has been taught , theocratic control of the US. The idea that these things have been dropped is ridiculous.
@carolyearsley
@carolyearsley 3 месяца назад
I remember a Relief Society lesson on that topic. We were told that it would be a "theo democracy"
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
​@@carolyearsley In 2016, I heard - IN SS class! - the term "BENEFICENT DESPOT". I kid you not.
@carolyearsley
@carolyearsley 3 месяца назад
@@sheliabryant3997 I totally believe you. But the despot will be far from beneficent.
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
They're now mandating Judaism & WW2 Holocaust classes in public school. It's agsinst the law to critique Israel and anyone who even appears to be Jewish. State governors are signing agreements with Israel, a foreign country. You have an ethno-theocracy already.
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
@@sheliabryant3997yeah well, newspeak wordsmiths have been hard at work
@daegon1985
@daegon1985 3 месяца назад
That video from the mtc last year with generic Christian music and clapping is a clear indication that Mormonism is losing its identity
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
(They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,,) that's in the Quran God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@susaneweinberg4411
@susaneweinberg4411 3 месяца назад
Assimilation
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
@daegon. Mormonism IS NOT "losing its identity"! The CORPORATE LEADERS of this CORPORATION are merely TEMPORARILY re-costuming in order to find a place at the table of the Christianity brought forth by Paul. Once they can find a way to be CALLED "Christian", MORMON DOCTRINE will be systematically sown into the THE GOSPEL of Jesus as it was preached by His disciples and then brought to us by Paul THE APOSTLE! These "tenets" and practices are so "fascinating" and have the "FEELING" and tangible "way up high" appeal for which the Earth has been hyped up to be clamoring to receive, we will watch as Jesus's words ring in the backs of our heads and from the depths of our bones, "THEY WILL DECEIVE MANY! "DO NOT BE 😢 DEFRAUDED!"
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
Uh oh That's bad. No sarc. Reverence and calm are what's missing in churches theses days Kids ne er learn to sit quietly & meditatively.
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
@@Amiranoor88yours maybe. Not everyone's
@TexasRoadrunner
@TexasRoadrunner 3 месяца назад
As a never-mo, I remember Glen Beck talking about O.U.R on his radio show.
@Wren402
@Wren402 3 месяца назад
The LDS church was built on belief in patriarchy, white supremacy, and American exceptionalism. These beliefs are shared with many evangelicals in the southern U.S. I guess they think that shared racism, misogyny, homophobia, and American elitism will be enough to win the white Christian nationalists over to Mormonism. While white Christian nationalists may see people of color, immigrants, and LGBT people as “other”, most would put Mormons in that other category as well.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
You're definitely confused on what white Christian Nationalism is as it's just Neo Nazis : Evangelicals would definitely be against those people. !!!
@rmandbd2
@rmandbd2 3 месяца назад
I’m an evangelical. The best lies start with a piece of truth. That is Mormonism.
@darrenlawson4909
@darrenlawson4909 3 месяца назад
😂unfortunately for you the same is true for the Bible. Real Geography filled with fictional characters copied from all previous religions. The real TRUTH is that Man is not meant to understand God. I doubt our puny lil brains are even capable of it.
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
@rmandbd. X 193 BILLION 🌈🌈🌈
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
What piece of truth do you see that started Mormonism?
@nolavee3477
@nolavee3477 3 месяца назад
Individuals who identify as being Mormons during their lifetimes have produced significant content about the corporate organization established by Joseph Smith Sr. and his children. Joseph Smith Jr., in particular, has been viewed by some as engaging in a prolonged deception, which has ultimately benefited the leadership of the corporation. Thank you, for your consistency in statements with receipts.
@michealcobia7869
@michealcobia7869 3 месяца назад
If the evangelicals are brought in, we’re going to be way over the 144,000 threshold. There’s going to be a lot of disappointed.😅
@Hallahanify
@Hallahanify 3 месяца назад
Well the lds church claims 17 million members...
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
Don't worry your little head: it ain't happening!!!
@Geoplanetjane
@Geoplanetjane 2 месяца назад
Not sure whether they would be better off as LDS. Maybe so. The holy rollers are nutso.
@Geoplanetjane
@Geoplanetjane 2 месяца назад
Not sure whether they would be better off as LDS. Maybe so. The holy rollers are nutso.
@kristadpickett
@kristadpickett 3 месяца назад
Evangelical Christian here. I knew about Ballard before the movie so I "got lucky" to not be fooled. But I can't tell you how many people in my church community went to see it and then shared allllll over social media about how amazing it was and how noble of a cause it was 😢
@mormonishpodcast1036
@mormonishpodcast1036 3 месяца назад
My family too!
@summerlake356
@summerlake356 3 месяца назад
There was something really creepy about the whole hype, around Underground Railroad. The hype was so clearly artificial, yet, nobody could challenge is, because then you "defend pedos". And the exploitation of kids clearly does not work in the way that Underground Railroad depicts. There have been so many instances of it exposed, in my neck of the wood, in the fallout from socialism/communism. There is a pattern, but it is not what Ballard claimed. The pedos do charity work, or volunteer around kids...Or go with young teens who are attracted by money and gifts. It is a poverty / wealth situation. Buying a "slave" in the way that Underground Railroad made out, appears really rare.
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
@kristapicket. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯. Thank you for info! Have you been able to disabuse ANY of them?
@dl1130
@dl1130 3 месяца назад
"You can buy anything in this world with money..." Satan
@bewitched3912
@bewitched3912 3 месяца назад
.. that's why the cult has a quarter of a trillion dollars to influence people to jump through hoops and perform tricks 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@FaithBurnside
@FaithBurnside 2 месяца назад
As a mainstream christian, this does offend me. But more than that, it scares me, because the LDS involvement is so obvious but i had so many evangelical friends and family falling head over heels for SOF
@priscillaastling8707
@priscillaastling8707 3 месяца назад
Perhaps Tim got distracted with his own sexual needs and power over grown women and lost his focus on original goals. Not first time a man got waylaid by sex, money, and power.
@DaddyTodd
@DaddyTodd 3 месяца назад
Timmy's "sexual needs and power over grown women" WERE his original goals. He was getting exactly what he was after.
@summerlake356
@summerlake356 3 месяца назад
Yes, a combination of many contributing factors.
@debbieshrubb1222
@debbieshrubb1222 3 месяца назад
I suspect his original goals were about himself.
@deidrekline2149
@deidrekline2149 3 месяца назад
Hmmm…Maybe this evangelical courting is why Nelson has such a jones for everyone to stop calling the church Mormon and use the full Church of Jesus Christ of…….
@susaneweinberg4411
@susaneweinberg4411 3 месяца назад
I don’t think he had any original goals. It was all a “ruse” by the church to infiltrate American evangelicals and the US government to create a theocracy
@rosemariebennett7213
@rosemariebennett7213 3 месяца назад
Yes, I watched that episode on the second annointing. Made me wonder what part my Savior actually has then .
@user-mn447
@user-mn447 3 месяца назад
Very interesting indeed!! 😮😮
@birdlyword2
@birdlyword2 3 месяца назад
This is nuts!
@RyanWimmer
@RyanWimmer 3 месяца назад
I’ll be really interested in you covering the latest with one of the lawsuits being tossed.
@tymarkham5049
@tymarkham5049 3 месяца назад
I can certainly see the trend over time (as a 73 year old LDS member). The good intentions of decent, caring LDS folks who go about their ‘do-good-ing‘ in a unsophisticated, sloppy manner are at risk of looking like buffoons when ulterior motives are superimposed over their attempts to accomplish something important and laudable. I think both Tim and Russell are good people with pure intentions but got waylaid by others’ agendas and by poor judgement enroute to accomplishing a potentially great work of exposing the problem of child slavery & abuse. They ended up with a complex web that appears now to be the work of calumny and deceit. So sad!
@sjenson6694
@sjenson6694 3 месяца назад
I think they were just in it for themselves the entire time 🤷‍♂️
@summerlake356
@summerlake356 3 месяца назад
Yes exactly. They are true believers and the end, (bringing in converts), justifies the means...
@tamicox990
@tamicox990 Месяц назад
It’s hard to believe I actually donated money monthly to the OUR thinking these were normal people who were really wanting to help rescue children.
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
Who is JFS Mayflower ancestor? The only one who "fell off the Mayflower" was John Howland, forefather of Billy, Alec & brothers
@mistichristensen7088
@mistichristensen7088 3 месяца назад
Wow 🤯
@LisaGiorgio-ug2qk
@LisaGiorgio-ug2qk 3 месяца назад
This brings back memories of the “Pick a Date” missionary program of the 80’s! Deceptive!!!
@michealcobia7869
@michealcobia7869 3 месяца назад
Ballard’s timely death corresponds with talks he frequently gave. Those who know know.
@carolyearsley
@carolyearsley 3 месяца назад
Mafias will turn on their own and take out any who may weaken their agenda.
@rosemariebennett7213
@rosemariebennett7213 3 месяца назад
This really makes me sad. I really thought Tim Ballard was legit and working with organizations to help shine the light on human trafficking and exploitation!
@LongJourneys
@LongJourneys 3 месяца назад
The sad thing is that he may very well have started out with good intentions, but he let his ego get in the way and built up a web of lies and deceit; and ultimately got to the point where his moral compass became skewed and he started doing horrible things himself. Humans are complex creatures, and we very rarely do anything with one sole motivation/reason.
@Hallahanify
@Hallahanify 3 месяца назад
​@LongJourneys its proven clear as day in this video he had ulterior motives from the start.
@bewitched3912
@bewitched3912 3 месяца назад
The Ketamine Queen was only thinking about his penis.
@jamespeters9522
@jamespeters9522 3 месяца назад
Absolutely with a de-emphasis on Mormon!
@2mcarp
@2mcarp 2 месяца назад
I'm sorry, and I guess I just have a dirty mind, but I'm laughing every time Rebecca says, "They have to sneak it in the back door." :)
@mormonishpodcast1036
@mormonishpodcast1036 2 месяца назад
Hee hee! 😂😂😂
@suthatheplee2777
@suthatheplee2777 3 месяца назад
Excellent work!!! Now who will get Fisher on their podcast now?
@mormonishpodcast1036
@mormonishpodcast1036 3 месяца назад
Nuanced Hoe did a several part x series with him I believe.
@jeangarde841
@jeangarde841 2 месяца назад
Never Mormon here! Love your info & channel!!!
@echomountain3370
@echomountain3370 3 месяца назад
You need to forward this video to the lawyers.
@cheery2100
@cheery2100 2 месяца назад
This was a great presentation. Very disturbing though. I found it quite harrowing.
@mormonishpodcast1036
@mormonishpodcast1036 2 месяца назад
It is! Thanks for watching!
@DapperDontheDad
@DapperDontheDad 3 месяца назад
Elder Ballard gave Tim Ballard the Second Anointing. I think this is why Tim Ballard went so wild! I don't think that Tim Ballard will not keep his promise. He will blab the minute he gets a better offer from the Catholic Church or another group.
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
(They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,,) that's in the Quran God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@debbieshrubb1222
@debbieshrubb1222 3 месяца назад
How do you know Tim Ballard has had the second anointing
@DapperDontheDad
@DapperDontheDad 3 месяца назад
@@debbieshrubb1222 I will be honest I think how Elder Ballard supported Tim. He declared that he knew more about Nephi. I just don't think that Tim Ballard is stupid enough to constantly drinking in Utah unless he thought he had a carte blanche to do as he wanted. It is my guess. Call me out any time. I should have mentioned that it was my guess.
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 3 месяца назад
Hmm. Sounds interesting.
@rosemariebennett7213
@rosemariebennett7213 3 месяца назад
Geeze ! They get this Second Annointing and then leave the church. So crazy. I think im on my way out. I think one more temple visit this year (Palmyra) and then figure out what im doing in my upcoming temple recommend renewal in October.
@rosemariebennett7213
@rosemariebennett7213 3 месяца назад
Wow . What is happening to this church!? Perhaps it's because it's not true and indeed God will not be mocked and the church will fall. I never heard that ice cream story. Thanks. So, is Tim Ballard still a favorite son even though excommunicated? How did elder Ballard pass away?
@birdlyword2
@birdlyword2 3 месяца назад
​@rosemariebennett7213 Elder Ballard was in his 90's. Nothing suspicious about the timing, although I'm sure the scandal was stressful and didn't help his health any.
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
(They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,,) that's in the Quran God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@Hallahanify
@Hallahanify 3 месяца назад
Please dont give them any more money. I promise you its not going to a good cause. You could do far greater for good with it than they ever will. And stop going to the temple its nothing but cult rubbish.
@GldnClaw
@GldnClaw 29 дней назад
This is absolutely rich coming from the same sort of people who have the "Truth in Love" (based out of Nampa, Idaho) of whom this ministry arm (Jesus is Enough) is a wing of. In order to "Crack this [Mormon] Nut", the 12 man Hit Squad performs Spiritual Ambushes on people going through a Faith crises in order to poach them. Currently, the Trinity Foundation (group that monitors religious fraud) is being asked to investigate the, seemingly, very lucrative endeavor. Methinks thou doth project too much.
@badasspeacemaker
@badasspeacemaker 3 месяца назад
Thank you for covering this!!
@michealcobia7869
@michealcobia7869 3 месяца назад
The problem is he was too young and was thinking with the wrong head. They need somebody in their late 70s that had prostate cancer.
@dsoule4902
@dsoule4902 2 месяца назад
Maybe evangelicals have gotten ahold of Mormons. In 60's-70's we considered ourselves Christians, but eschewed the cross (jewelry, icons) because Christ had risen
@samuelseube9650
@samuelseube9650 2 месяца назад
Can we describe that a work? No proofs, just alegations. Poor work. Pathétique.
@TexasRoadrunner
@TexasRoadrunner 3 месяца назад
The Wayback Machine is great... are they going to buy all of his books- and release "a never - mo version of Tim...."
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
(They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,,) that's in the Quran God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@robinnetto6794
@robinnetto6794 Месяц назад
If Tim was given the 2 nd anointing if he was excommunicated would he not still be part of the gospel?
@hailholyqueen
@hailholyqueen 3 месяца назад
One thing is for sure. Mormons can't accuse the evangelical church of apostasizing soon after the death of the last apostle. Can I get an amen?
@sleepycalico
@sleepycalico 3 месяца назад
I don't understand how Mormon leadership could have imagined they would be able to convert Evangelical Christians. They already know that people have fondness for beliefs that have existed over generations and that indoctrination from birth in some set of fervently emotional teachings makes people virtually unassailable. This is an absolutely fascinating twist. Season 2 of the Ballards miniseries already has me hooked. 😄
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
You seem indoctrinated : in what materialism???
@sleepycalico
@sleepycalico 3 месяца назад
@@davidjanbaz7728 I would answer your question, but I don't understand either part of your sentence. What evidence do you see of possible indoctrination? There are schools of materialism? How are they distinguished from each other? Meyers-Briggs divides personalities into 16 types. I score out as INTP. That seems reasonably accurate to me. You could google INTP, but I don't know if that pop psychology result addresses your curiosity.
@charlesmendeley9823
@charlesmendeley9823 3 месяца назад
Maybe Pastor Jeff is getting paid to miraculously convert to Mormonism, just like David Boice did. 🤔
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 3 месяца назад
When i saw this David Boice guy appearing in video titles explaining his conversion from protestantism, I had my suspicions. Is that just a hunch or is there evidence it is true?
@charlesmendeley9823
@charlesmendeley9823 3 месяца назад
@@truthbebold4009 It's just a hunch. I followed David's channel during COVID and didn't think much about it, but enjoyed studying the diversity of denominations and churches in the US. What I did notice is that since David visited each church only once, a good first impression is very important. And with the missionaries standing at the entrance and helping newcomers find their way, the LDS Church succeeded in that task. But besides that I found it a great coincidence that he should pick Mormonism in the end.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 3 месяца назад
@@charlesmendeley9823 Yeah, it just seems to me that LDS have become more Christian in recent years. I can't help but sense there has been a push to outshine Christians. Christianity isn't at its height of Christlikeness while LDS might be, in some ways, learning how to Christian.
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
​@@charlesmendeley9823 From beginning one could see "the end", viz. HE "CONVERTED". Frankly, I thought from start, he is/was, all along, a church actor playing the part.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
​@@truthbebold4009LOL 😂
@CleonAlleyne
@CleonAlleyne 2 месяца назад
As a pastor this is very eye opening.
@Geoplanetjane
@Geoplanetjane 2 месяца назад
I thought the Swedes were smarter than that.
@LatterDayPup
@LatterDayPup 3 месяца назад
Based Elder Ballard.
@sheliabryant3997
@sheliabryant3997 3 месяца назад
🌈!🌈!🌈! And what about the BYU professor who was really the progenitor of VoG and expected or implied that HE would be the Davidic servant? BECAUSE IT IS ALL A Three-ring Circus with each of 20 performers running from one set-up to another, circling three tmes, thence to the next, and on and on ... "Catch me if you can!" KETCH 🔥 'UM!!!!
@CatskillsGrrl
@CatskillsGrrl 3 месяца назад
I just donated … keep up the good work you two. 😘
@mormonishpodcast1036
@mormonishpodcast1036 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much @CatskillsGrrl! We appreciate your support!!
@JaelHammerNPeg
@JaelHammerNPeg 3 месяца назад
The producers of the film hired an ultra conservative Roman Catholic who had acted in "The Passions of the Christ" Then this actor promoted the film to a wider mainstream Christian audience.
@carolyearsley
@carolyearsley 3 месяца назад
And the irony is that the Catholic church is the largest child sex trafficking operation in the world. L.D. S. Inc. is in very tight with the Catholic Jesuits. Read the book "Eaters of Children". It exposes the world wide web of evil. It can be found online.
@China-Clay
@China-Clay 3 месяца назад
I find it interesting that Tim seems to be all over the place, without his wife. If she is busy staying home with the kids, why isn’t he???
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
(They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,,) that's in the Quran God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@michellesunshinestar
@michellesunshinestar 3 месяца назад
My one friend switched from Church of Christ to Catholicism
@susaneweinberg4411
@susaneweinberg4411 3 месяца назад
The American Catholics today are nothing like they were 40+ years ago. I was raised Catholic and used to watch the Catholic cable channel EWTN back then and it was all religious programming, rosary recitations, etc. No politics. Now it’s nothing but politics. I read somewhere that the Catholic Church in Europe is nothing like it is here in the US. American Catholicism is basically an offshoot of Protestant evangelicalism. Why don’t they leave the Church of Rome if they hate the Pope so much? Which not following the pope is the most “uncatholic ” thing a Catholic could do.
@timrathbone7093
@timrathbone7093 3 месяца назад
Is was Glenn Beck involved in this scheme?
@susaneweinberg4411
@susaneweinberg4411 3 месяца назад
Yes
@Amiranoor88
@Amiranoor88 3 месяца назад
They say, "Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him, God is allah❤❤❤❤❤
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 3 месяца назад
I worship the God of the Bible and His Son 🙏
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 месяца назад
U R mistaken!!!
@scotthullinger4684
@scotthullinger4684 2 месяца назад
"Mormon.ish" apparently has FAR more to do with being anti-Mormon that anything else - After all, these people make reference to happiness only after leaving the church. That's the WHOLE POINT for the existence of Mormon.ish - to justify & celebrate an apostate status.
@mormonishpodcast1036
@mormonishpodcast1036 2 месяца назад
Yes we are happy post-Mormons and enjoy celebrating that fact and laughing at the ridiculous ideas we used to believe being part of a cult! Thanks for recognizing our work!
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