Episode 96 - Rear Brake Shoe, Wheel Cylinder, Springs and Drum Replacement 1993 F250

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Welcome! In this video my brother redoes the rear Brake Shoes, Springs and Drums for his 1993 Ford F-250 named Ty. Drums can be tricky due to the large number of springs they use and the specific order they need to go in. Make sure to watch the full video as I address specific spring locations and talk about the key differences in brake shoe and drum size between the Super Duty and non Super Duty versions of the F-250. My brother has a non Super Duty so it was harder to find the right parts. The key is that the semi-float axle (non Super Duty) uses the same brake shoes/drums as the F-150 of the time. The full-float axles (Super Duty) use bigger drums and shoes.
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@jackjones9460 6 месяцев назад

Good video. A photo of the assembly before any thing gets removed is also very handy! I came here because most of my springs (except the red springs) were rusted apart and had fallen off. Photos didn’t help. Thank you. I’ll watch again!

@MazdaB3K 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, photos are a big help. I'm having to change out the shoes on my 1997 van and I take photos and lay out the parts in the rough order they are setup as I take it apart.

@jesantonihevileon8611 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the advice regarding the specifics tools to install those little springs.

@MazdaB3K 8 месяцев назад

Yeah. There are actually specific tools for drum brakes that make life much easier. If I wind up doing many more drum I might invest in them. I just finished drum on my '89 F-350 and I'm getting a bit tired of drums without the right tools.

@mikebarton3221 Год назад

Great video! Really helped me through the process. Thank you

@MazdaB3K Год назад

Glad I could help. Brake drums are just not fun.

@joehemstock7781 7 месяцев назад

As proven by the Silver Spring, showing in part of your video and the blue spring showing in the other, you edited it, but used both sides without telling the person watching the video. That made it very confusing, but I must say thank you it did help me somewhat.

@MazdaB3K 7 месяцев назад

I apologize for the confusion. The sides are mirrors of each other if that helps.

@jackjones9460 6 месяцев назад

I noticed that too. Takedown was the driver side. Reassembly on the passenger side.

@jackjones9460 6 месяцев назад

@@MazdaB3K When it matters like it does here you could mention the parts go together in the direction the truck faces. Emergency brake lever and the little cable going from the top bolt to adjuster are on the rear brake shoe. A mirror would show one on the left and other on the right. Some people (like me 🤷🏻) get easily confused with that sort of stuff. Overall, thanks for a great video! I subscribed today!

@MazdaB3K 6 месяцев назад

@@jackjones9460 Thanks for the sub!

@Gamer_Dudes2 Год назад

Thanks alot! I have a 1993 3/4 ton dodge ram and I tool off the axle comepletly to redo it all and this is going to help me out alot, I know it!

@MazdaB3K Год назад

It should be able to help you out. The spring colors and locations are probably a bit different, but the general concept is the same. Take lots of pictures and take your time and victory will be yours.

@mikeburgan6350 9 месяцев назад

Great video, good tips, but I agree with @roberthensley8653, you need to put jack stands or blocks of something under the axle in case you jack fails. If it failed catastrophically when you're under the truck with nothing to catch it, your dead. If nothing else, put the tire under the axle. Not being your dad, just don't want you hurt.

@MazdaB3K 9 месяцев назад

I understand. I do generally make sure I have support in place while I'm working under something. Actually had to invest in some 6 ton jackstands for an RV that I'm working on.

@SCARLETBIRDS 2 месяца назад

97 f250 HD also uses this layout while having the sterling full floating axle

@MazdaB3K 2 месяца назад

Good to know. Thanks for the comment.

@SCARLETBIRDS 2 месяца назад

@@MazdaB3K ye, should also note the sterling axle uses the 3" pad drums but has the same 8 lug pattern, chevy also uses the same parts

@MazdaB3K 2 месяца назад

I did know about the pad difference. Initially my brother bought the bigger pads for this job on accident and had to return everything.

@SCARLETBIRDS 2 месяца назад

@@MazdaB3K know that feeling, the HD has a bunch of unique traits vs other f250 trucks making buying parts a pain till you know exactly what the thing you need is called, ended up buying a door lever at a scrap yard after 2 days of searching because it's not sold new, the easy fix would be to just swap the door with any regular f250 that had control bars instead of cables, then i have some weird cab stuff going on as well, power rear window but no switch on the dash for it, almost looks like someone wrecked it and swapped stuff around to make it work, lol

@janetharvey8230 11 месяцев назад

I was a dumba&& n put my star on backwards 😂 so i watched it again i noticed that it was thin at the end. So thank u guys 4 post 📫 it. t.y. C

@MazdaB3K 11 месяцев назад

Don't feel bad. When I was doing these or the ones on my brother's truck I did the exact same thing. Rite of passage when doing drum brakes.

@janetharvey8230 11 месяцев назад

I took a ride and worked great t.y. 👍 now I'm I'm working on a 67 chevelle n i don't know vacuum maybe I can hit u up when I need help. I was going to sell it but see how u guy made it easy 4 me . T.y. again MIKE

@josephvespaz Год назад

Great videos, Have you gotten back in to do the parking brake cables? I have a 94 e-250 w the same axle. I did everything you did + the parking brake cables but when reassembling, the cables putting pressure on that parking brake lever causing the brakes to drag and not sit flush on that half moon at the top of the assembly. Heavy rig so I really want to parking brake to work if possible and there’s not much info out there on this.

@MazdaB3K Год назад

Glad the video helped you out. This is my brother's truck and we haven't gotten back around to it because of some paperwork issues on it. When we do and tackle the parking brake, I'll definitely make a video for it.

@merlepatterson 10 месяцев назад

Many of the semi-floating (non Super-Duty) axle F250's came with 8.8" differential, which was the same one for the Mustang and some later Rangers, Explorers and Broncos.

@MazdaB3K 10 месяцев назад

Indeed. My B3000 had an 8.8 in it. The early Explorer, Mustangs, Sport Tracs and probably a few other all got the Ford 8.8. I have one from a Sport Trac I intend to stick in a 1964 F100... someday.

@merlepatterson 10 месяцев назад

@@MazdaB3K I have a 2002 Level II Ranger FX4 with the 8.8" Torsen Helical differential.

@MazdaB3K 10 месяцев назад

I swapped in a 2000 Ranger 8.8 because I wanted to go from the 3.45 gears I had to 4.10. Made the truck far more drivable.

@merlepatterson 10 месяцев назад

@@MazdaB3K Yeah, the 4:10 gears came standard in my truck. It's like it has a full time posi in it with the helical diff.

@edwardhigginbotham2826 8 дней назад

Did you do anything to get the cylinder pistons to activate??

@MazdaB3K 8 дней назад

Do you mean to get the wheel cylinder to spread the brake shoes? The wheel cylinder is hydraulically actuated, so to make it work you need to have no leaks in the brake system and to have purged all the air out of the wheel cylinder itself by bleeding it. After that, the wheel cylinder should work when the brake pedal is pushed.

@maximmichaud1909 Год назад

great video but you guys didn’t get to show us how to replace the small cable on the parking break lever or wtv you call it

@MazdaB3K Год назад

I don't think we showed it directly, but in general the cable that goes down and hooks on the parking brake pawl hooks onto the post located on the top center of the backing plate. If you look in the section of the video where I'm talking about making sure you get the order of the parking brake shoe and the little trapezoid shaped spacer at the center post correct, you should see the wire connected there. Normally that piece is not included in a drum hardware kit and has to be purchased separately.

@johnnyohness 7 месяцев назад

If you didn't have a pair of spring pliers you should have at least filmed one side of the blue or red short springs being put on. So many videos and some small but super important detail is left out. Good video other wise.

@MazdaB3K 7 месяцев назад

I didn't in this video, but I just did a video on drum brakes on my 1989 F350 where I do show some of the same basic technique using locking needlenose pliers to put springs on. Improvements over time I suppose.

@jesantonihevileon8611 8 месяцев назад

How to force those two red little springs to be installed in those two little hooks ? Because that seems to be the most important thing.

@MazdaB3K 8 месяцев назад

Yes. Those j-nails hold the brake shoes in place, so they do have to be done first. My F-350 has the same setup and I just did them so this is what I did. I took some needle-nose locking pliers and locked them TIGHT toward the ends of the hook in the spring. I then pushed from the end of the pliers just about as hard as I could in order to push the spring in just far enough to wiggle the spring under the j-nail so I could hook it. Clamps really are you friend here. You can take some locking pliers style square clamps and hold the brake shoes in place so you can focus all your energies on getting the spring onto the j-nail. Hope that helps.

@jesantonihevileon8611 8 месяцев назад

Could be possible to install rotors break systems to replace the rear break drums systems in the 96 e-250 ?

@MazdaB3K 8 месяцев назад

You mean a conversion to disc brakes? This is the same rear end they put in F-150 trucks of the same year so if you can find a conversion kit for a '97 F-150, it should work here. Something else you can do is swap in an entire new axle that is already setup for disc brakes. You'd have to find a compatible donor for that, but again, you might find a F-150 or non super duty F250 that had disc in the back. I've not researched this but yes, I think a kit is out there that you could utilize.

@ashokjames3467 3 месяца назад

In my truck the parking brake that C shape is almost rubbing the hub and that disables parking brake. I don’t know what’s wrong any idea please?

@MazdaB3K 3 месяца назад

Are you talking about the bracket that holds the actual parking brake cable?

@ashokjames3467 3 месяца назад

@@MazdaB3K yes that bracket is little rubbing the axle there’s almost no gap between

@MazdaB3K 3 месяца назад

If I remember correctly that is supposed to be in held in place on a pin that sticks out of the brake shoe. The bracket has to be inserted in the correct order so it doesn't hit a spreader bar that goes between the two brakes shoes. There's also supposed to be a flat washer on top of the bracket at the pin, then a horseshoe shaped clip that holds it all in place. My suggestion is check the order in which all the parts have been put in and see if something is out of sequence. You may also want to inspect the bracket it self and make sure it isn't bent.

@ashokjames3467 3 месяца назад

@@MazdaB3K ok washer and clip all in the right order. I believe like you said it may have a bent bracket. I’ll check that. Thank you very much for the help

@MazdaB3K 3 месяца назад

@@ashokjames3467 sure thing

@jesantonihevileon8611 11 месяцев назад

Miss teach how hook the springs in those nail head parts.

@MazdaB3K 11 месяцев назад

There is a specific tool you can use to push the springs down enough to get them in position and then rotate them so they are locked in. I don't have that tool. Instead what I did was take needlenose locking pliers and grabbed the sides of the spring locking plate (spring hat) so I could shove the spring down into position and still be able to rotate the spring hat to the locked position. Here's a link to the correct tool: www.amazon.com/GEARWRENCH-Universal-Brake-Retaining-Spring/dp/B0002SQU7W/ref=sr_1_24?crid=3EIKOLPOAXAP1&keywords=drum+brake+brake+nail+tool&qid=1697215406&sprefix=drum+brake+brake+nail+tool%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-24

@Rvillaloboa1979 9 месяцев назад

Good

@MazdaB3K 9 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@miguelomedina3494 2 месяца назад

Wao’ grx a usted acabo de armar un juego de bandas similares a las de ustedes

@MazdaB3K 2 месяца назад

Glad I was able to help.

@roberthensley8653 Год назад

Safety first boys, don't see any back up jack stands... Just saying.

@MazdaB3K Год назад

It's a fair point to raise. I'm not sure if I had jack stands in position for this video or not. It is something I try to be good about, particularly as I get older and my floor jack gets older as well.

@triplecranks 6 месяцев назад

and flip flops! Ahhh! Scary.

@glenwhitestofer6420 10 месяцев назад

Parking brake lever dos not need to come off!!

@MazdaB3K 10 месяцев назад

If I remember right the lever piece hangs off of one of the brake shoes. If you are replacing brakes shoes, then it would need to be transferred to the new shoe.

@douglasmcclain142 3 месяца назад

Long pad alway goes to the rear.

@MazdaB3K 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the tip. I recently heard of BOB (Big on Back) when it comes to drums so hopefully that will keep me from getting horribly confused anymore.