Director Alon Schwarz discusses “Tantura,” his documentary as it investigates controversial events at the Palestinian village of Tantura in 1948, where survivors claimed to witness a massacre of civilians by Israeli troops.
journalist: "Israel was invaded.. Alon : if u want to be exact "Israel" started evicting and throwing Palestinians before the declare . journalist: Ok it's not the point. WTF ,,,this is the whole point to begin with..
As a longtime anti Zionist I can atleast appreciate this argument in favor of the state of Israel! It’s honest and atleast gives us a place from which we can start to heal. I would absolutely be in favor of the state of Israel if it was first built on reconciliation and forgiveness!
@@ItchyTrigahFingah but God’s promise is inevitable to happen, and the israelites will reap what they have sown and it will be so painful in this life and the anguish in the next will be eternal.
This is such a bizarre interview. I’ve watched so many documentaries about massacres and genocides but never have I heard the phrase “both sides” thrown around so much when discussing it. There are actually 3 sides in any massacre - the killers, the survivors and the killed - but one group can never tell their story.
That's because the filmmaker himself didn't know his facts and glossed over huge not "details" as he described them but major factors that gad to do with this. If your not familiar with the history. This filmmaker can't even keep his story straight about what happened to the guys whose tapes he used in this film
23:21 Does one instance of violence by Palestinians justify the expulsion of 750,000 people? Btw you forgot to mention that this act of violence occurred after the expulsion had already begun. How would Israelis react today if a foreign power invaded them and tried to kick them out? Would they accept it and leave?
This presenter is not being honest with the history yet but I appreciate that he is willing to have the conversation and let the distinguished filmmaker present his findings and talk about his film.
@@37Dionysos Before this, he tries to make the Nakba about the Arabs invading. The expulsions started before the invasion and the invasions happened in response. He also argues that most Palestinians left because of leaders encouraging them to. Also false. 13:30 The presenter tries to argue that Israel is open about the atrocities it did. It isn't. 19:00 The presenter argues similar atrocities happened from the Palestinian side but nothing on the same scale happened by Palestinians. 22:00 "That's a very hard statement." He says about the documentarian saying that Israel expelled Palestinians. However Israel did expel them. Then suggests this is propaganda.
Bravo Alon Schwarz ! Hopefully you can educate your fellow countrymen and thereby sow the seeds for lasting piece. As an outsider, it seems to me that hate & racism is ingrained into your culture, and if so, changing that is likely to be a tough task. All i can do is wish you and the people working with you success - the sooner the better !
Alon is doing a good job and he defends his case bravely against the interviewer who really has a hard time acknowleging the facts. Another one being lulled asleep by the zio myth.
I don't like zionism, at ALL, that said not all all zionists are monsters. Alon f.ex, I guess his conscience made him make this film. Dismantle the ziosystem, then there is a chance that people can live in a normal society in Israel, arabs, muslims, christians, jews israelis and palestinians. Aftrr some generations??
We aren't neighbours, we Palestinians are occupied by people who already have homelands in europ and russia, and we will free our homeland the holly land from this occupier. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 from the river to the see. After all you have done to us, you think we will accept you on our precious soil?!
Israel needs more people like this director willing to look at the history and change their own minds about the story that's been told to them. Zionism has become just as oppressive as the trauma inflicted on them.
My deceased father was conscripted and served the Imperial Japanese Navy during the WWII. He had seen the world and was a very educated knowledgeable person. However, when I raised a question about the atrocities the Japanese soldiers commited during the war, he strongly defended the motives, and even concluded I was not qualified to question as I didn't belong to the war surviving generation. It's the very sensitive topic caught between guilt for the acknowledgeable crimes and orders from the military command unallowable to disobey. In the nutshell, war is the event an individual is caused to deny the fact to escape the guilt and shame.
This journalist if you can even call him that, is disgusting. he is attempting to gaslight Alon the entire time. Bravo Alon for such a brilliant and important documentary.
Not just recognize their pain. Give them their land back and get the hell out of there.u want a state go make one in gemrnay or whatever nation that has been supporting ur war crimes
The single most truthful piece out of the whole interview is: “maybe we’re not supposed to be here”. Thank you for admitting that even for a brief moment. My hope for you is that, if you’re sincerely concerned with Truth, is that one day you will actually internalize it and leave.
He should be in favor of a single state solution. With full rights for all. And reparations for those that were dispossessed. And the right of return for those that wish to. As for the current Israelis, those born there, are now of that place. It's a mess but the South African model of Truth and Reconciliation should be a model to learn from and consider. There should also though be trials and convictions for those that have been personally responsible for war crimes.
I visited Israel twice and stayed in the Christian(Catholic) Jews and Arab communities. Though their belief is non-judaism, even critical with the "chosen people arrogant myth" and patriarchal tradition, they are highly charged with the Zionism, taking anti-Palestinian stance. For an outsider Christian(Born Again), it's very hypocritical and inscrutable. The fact is self-preservation and survival is their top priority. They are against violence and the current corrupted government, their concerns for daily lives are most important. Believing in the manmade ideology such as Zionism is already self-defying. I hope they wake up to seek the truth.
Far from perfect society and one that remains to live in a tainted self belief of truth, despite "stumbling" and falling flat on their face on Israel's crimes.
Germany post-war has to go through that. Why Israel keeps avoiding the subject? Is it too horrible to face the horror? Well the future generations will ask for answers and it is better that the debate is launched today before the survivors on both sides disappear.
This is Divine Law, 👍🏻the way Allah wanted some people to Still remember what happen almost 75yrs ago 🤔& HE, is watching 🤔🤫 May Allah Bless those people of TANTURA in Heaven Ameen 🕋 thank you so much for sharing Sir 🙏🏻👍🏻 Sohail Karachi Pakistan ❤️👍🏻
Very good interview I have two comments that I'd like to share: 1. The question of Eric to Elon about why should Ixraelis ( like Elon) criticize Ixrael while Palextinians don't do the same. Elon had a very good answer saying that he shouldn't adopt lower moral standards just because Palextinians are adopting lower moral standards. However, power differences are also relevant. How do you expect Palextinians to put under the light the atrocities they might have committed against Jionist jexs while they struggle making public what they really went through in 1948. 2. About Palextinians running away. If it was the case, why did they prevent their return? They dispossessed them through the absentee law (and the present absentee law for the dispossession of Palextinians citizen of Ixrael). The Palextinians that tried to return to harvest their own land were killed mercilessly. In general, I find strange when Ixraelis would be surprised that they massively expelled Palextinians, isn't Jionism about creating a Jexish mojority state? One of the most important motivation of Jionism is that jexs can't survive as minorities no matter how well they integrate, they can't project to live as a minority in an arxb majority populated land! Additionally, B Gurion, Weizman letters leave no doubts about jionist's intentions towards the Palextinians.
Could anyone tell me why they say Ilan Pappé has been descredited ? What do you know about this and if this is the case what are the premisses of him being descredited ? Thank you
It is easy to know whether the massacre occured or not you send a team of independent archeologists there if Israel let them in of course and the truth will come out!
Bravo Alon Schwarz, a brilliant and powerful documentary. Interestingly since the recent events I have done much investigation, speaking to some Israelis and came to conclusions that were confirmed in this documentary. I gathered that Israelis weren't told truths about the overtaking of Palestine. All colony countries have to admit their past and the horrors and victimisation of the original.. It's a catastrophe that those who had suffered the horrific infliction on the Jewish people in the Holocaust (including my ancestors), have done and are doing the same. Zionists are masters at rewriting history and that I am witnessing all over the internet since the latest Israeli/Palestine conflict. Goldman despite asking good questions in an awkward way, you keep cutting Schwarz off and interrupting, uncomfortable truths maybe?
Thank you for the honesty Israel the state does not represent the true Jews. I hope that we along with our Jewish Allie’s can come together and stop the massacres of the Palestinians people !
Much respect to Alon Schwarz for his effort to bring to the attention of those in Israel and outside the true and factual nature of what happened in 1948, Tantura and the current conditions in Israel, as they exist. I appreciate his honesty, his fore sight and his courage and conviction about the painful truth that surrounds Israel and its birth.
All the peoples of the world have been committing disgusting crimes for thousands of years, and they ignore that God sees, hears, and will be held accountable. No matter how much you hold criminals accountable in this world, your account will be easy for them... As for God, He will admit them to Hell to abide therein. كل شعوب العالم منذ الاف السنين تقترف الجرائم المقرفه، ويتجاهلون ان الله يرى ويسمع وسيحاسب، مهما حاسبت المجرمين في الدنيا سيكون حسابك لهم يسيرا...اما الله فيدخلهم جنهم خالدين فيها.
Unfortunately at the 1917 ,zionist ( not jews) said they are not there to coexist but to replace, and 2 state is not fair for the people who got kicked out,especially Israel have an idea of kingdom wich include Egypt, Lebanon and majority of Middle east
Body language don't mean $#!+ To an intelligence expert. My eyes water due to allergies, doesn't mean I'm crying. My hands shake due to NASA aftershocks, doesn't mean I'm nervous. My heart can race for various reasons. Etc.
The Arab leadership left when the civil war (1947) started. and then the local population were told by the Holy War Army (Husseini) to leave, especially in areas that the Jews took over such as Haifa, Jaffa,. Those Arabs did leave on their own. Then there was a battle called Dir Yassin just after the death of an Arab commander who was a real terrorists. The rumors of this battle were exaggerated by all sides (British, Irgun, Hagana, Arabs) for different reasons and the Arabs ran away fearing that these exaggerations were real. In 1967 many Arabs "learned the lesson of 1948" meaning the Israeli were not going to hurt them and remained, while others left at their own accord. The fact that the Arabs left is not "something we tell ourselves" it is the reality of what happened.
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