Escaping Jehovah's Witnesses Control: Thought Control 

A “numb greyness” is definitely an accurate description of how it feels to be a “good” witness. Which is why I think the percentage of witnesses diagnosed with depression is so high. But even that is discounted by elders as a bi product of “living in the last days” when it reality it’s most likely a result of the mind control. Good conversation for anyone in a controlled environment to think through.

Thank you for your videos it helps us after a long sleep to exercise our analytical skills. When we woke up from the formatting of the Watchtower, I realized that I had lost my critical thinking reflexes. Little by little I find them.

This is a great conversation! I brought up some of my concerns and doubts to my mom and she pulled the “where would you go?” “Do you think Catholics have it right?” It kills me that she’s so brainwashed she won’t even listen to me and there’s no point in even trying to defend myself because she won’t hear it.

I just want to say how refreshing it is to find your channel. Ladies that have an open discussion of what a lot of us were raised in and trying to understand everything. Makes me feel less crazy and like we have an unspoken bond. Thank you.

Very interesting conversation with two levelheaded, balanced individuals. Members also have a religious elitism and it’s not only toward nonbelievers, it’s also rife within. Pitting members against each other based on the level of your activity within the congregation. Pioneers verses publishers. I’ve seen it all

Who would believe that leaving a human organization would be the same as leaving Jehovah? Is it impossible to have a relationship with God outside of a human organization? What would that actually mean. Are we a slave to a human society that has taken the Name of God hostage?

Thank you both for another excellent video A superb book written by a born in, ex jw and retired therapist, Bonnie Zieman, is Cracking the Cult Code for Therapists I feel sure Hannah would devour it 😊

Man could I relate. I was out for 20 years but faked my way back and after a year was reinstated so I could again have a relationship with my daughter, mom, rest of family and friends. It only lasted 3 years. I realized that I no longer believed this mess but also started researching and found the underside of JW Land. I also realized that even families love is conditional on you being a robot JW. UGH I could no longer live a fake life. Thanks for the informative video's you post.

Thank you for the video, I’m sure it will help many JWs.

The best way to escape JW thought control is to study the bible. Not to find out what is right or wrong with any doctrines but rather learn about the bible itself. Who really wrote the books? When were they really written and to what intended readers. Learn why certain ancient texts are in the biblical cannon today. Why were so many left out? Learn about the dead sea scrolls and what was found there. Learn about early Chrisianity as well as Judaism origins. Learn about non religious literature that dates prior to Christianity that follow the exact same themes borrowed by authors of the bible. Understand the many many contradictions in the bible are a good thing in aiding understanding of the bible. Learn about both the documentary and layered theories. You will not get all the answers ever, but you will be able to put the bible in its proper perspective and will likely enjoy it more. You will learn about yourself by what you were willing to believe before and never again be subject to the thought control by any religion again.

I dissociated in 2018 aged 57 after studying apostate videos for 4 years . I had a choice, I asked myself,,,What's worse being shunned or pretending to believe and preaching a lie ?,, Nicole my beautiful wife is still a active pimi jw, she can't drive so I give her lifts to all the meetings and field service groups, we still have a happy and loving marriage, we both have the advantage of being born into atheist agnostic families who we both aren't close to because of the JW cult . I realise Nicole may never wake up ,but I,m truly grateful we are still in love with each other regardless that Nicole's a JW and I'm a born-again Atheist. Justin Porter ex jw ❤️

Very important - the healing will NEVER come from the people that perpetrated the hurtful dynamic

I stopped being a JW when I was 20 and then a supernatural experience recently now 20 years later brought me back to God. I then had to unlearn everything I though about Jesus, God, the bible and religion and have a personal relationship with God. My experience is forgive them, they are deceived and what better place for the enemy to hang out then in religion and confuse the truth about God/Jesus. Don’t let their deception stop you from Truth.

one time I questioned something at a book study and got repremanded after the study.

I’ve felt so many similarities in secular church as kh. Kinda why we just don’t do anything anymore. Love you!

That is what the Jehovah's witnesses don't want you to criticize they doctrine and very very good video

Thank you so much I really do appreciate the points you accurately portrayed in this video.

I would call it NEW LIES

I was just talking to my brother-in-law we both left being in the (truth) the 10 hour a month was not impressed on us very well.but found later they always viewed us as spiritual weak.

When you said Hospital liaison committee, that’s basically who the patient is giving power of attorney to, correct? I ask because my mom did this when she went into surgery for her cancer, and two elders showed up with paperwork. It was heartbreaking!

Thank you Brandy! Great insight from the video!

Thank you, Brandy. 💙

A born in usually has a horrible time leaving over someone who came in and their family does not go along with it. When you are born in, you can lose your whole family. Some have nothing or anyone to fall back on. This is what keeps so many in the cult. Its like a divorce after 20 years or more of marriage. You can lose everything you built for social networks.

Unfortunately they've put a label on you. You shouldn't put that label on yourself once you leave. You need to peel that label off. Saying "I'm a Apostate" doesn't help one heal to move onto better things and true peace in their life. It's a cult made label. Not one you need to carry around yourself Brandy. Yes I woke up in March of 2021 around the time the pandemic started. But I love your video's you do with Hannah. It's therapy for you, but for all of us watching. Thank you for sharing.

They say that they console than control but clearly the bite Model fits them

My situation is I married a Regular Pioneer Sister when the Elders demanded I never marry again. So I disobeyed the Elders backed by the Organisation. A serious sin! So the Elders demanded we divorce or cut the marriage. We refused so we were told we did not show proper repentance meaning we were disfellowshipped. I do not and never did believe the Governing Body has Holy spirit. To many mistakes made by those who claim to have Holy Spirit. To many CSA cases unreported. To many failed interpretation of prophecy, to many realestste deals purchased with donations given for preaching but not reported to the members giving hard earned income for a certain purpose! Such as the building of a sports complex unreported but mentioned as a support facility. But the interpretation of scripture over all us more accurate than most religions. The issue I gave us I know the Governing Body us not directed by Holy Spirit, neither are Elders appointed by Holy Spirit. But my wife still does, but she as a single sister for years knows well the sexual advances by married Elders calling her late a night wanting to come over for sex! Grooming single Sisters and even having sex with someone else's wife. When you sit with several disfellowshipped Sister's and hear these accounts, it is difficult to believe their stories. Yet they were disfellowshipped for sins they were truly repentant. Some trying to be reinstated fir 4 or 5 years but always refused by the very Elders trying to have sex with them that they turned down! A control not just over all the sheep, but especially the single Sisters! So I have to be very careful with Information I give my wife. It is hard to not be disappointed or to not be depressed at times. And to know to be reinstated my wife has to divorce me. So where does that leave me? 🤔 moving the 🥕! Nice comment!

Escaping control but also eternal life.

Was the new information given during those “special talks” at assemblies? I remember hearing that, but don’t remember exactly what it was.

Thank you! Unbelievable that Jaw still are “going strong”. The 10 cardinals and movie stars. A strange religion. The A team and the B team. The governing body is the A team! A simple instruction drink the wine and eat the bread. They make people not following the instruction from Jesus! Overlapping generation, no bird, no birthdays, no Christmas celebration…. Endless rules and instructions! Is that Jesus teaching? Love god and your neighbor as yourself becomes stay away from your neighbor and love only people that “love you”. Happy I left 30 years ago!

Well a Christians life is different. Governed by God's laws and principles ! Clearly written in the scriptures ....

Control for your sake necessary as it protect you from doing wrong and for others not doing wrong to you protection from satan from apostates illusion , About serving and worshiping god about who is god ,the true one about the love of money and where it drives you about preachng which Jessus have compelle to effectuate etc etc.

We’ll done. The only venue they provide for you to express your feelings and or concerns is a ‘shepherding call’. Doing so Is wrought with danger. If you stick with ‘feelings’ you’re the problem. Bring up any doctrinal concerns, again, you’re the problem. Risks can be loss of privileges up to name calling and expulsion. Being honest with yourself and others carries a hefty price. And it really shouldn’t in a truly loving environment.

I spent many hours in the back room / second School with a couple elders trying to brainwash me.

Congratulations for escaping the pandemic of fear in this cult.

I understand 100%..🙄

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What would Noah do? Would he ever allow a matriarchal city state control of everything needed to sustain the flesh and his independent patriarchal ability to question everything be controlled by Nimrod'?

I can think of 2 scriptures off the top of my head, and probably come up with a half dozen more within 10 minutes; that instruct us to learn to think for ourselves, to gain God's wisdom by reading his word and learning about his ways and qualities. 1. Proverbs 2: 1-12,......"to find the very knowledge of God, ..knowledge, discernment, practical wisdom, ....in that case you will understand the entire course of what is good. .....you will develop THINKING ABILITY,.....etc. etc. 2. Ephesians 6: 4,....You fathers, go bringing your children up in the mental-regulating of "the Watchtower"? NO! the faithful and discreet slave"?...NO!,....the "governing body"?.....NO!....Jehovah? YES! Why would we not personally apply things that we're to teach our own children? Our minds should be molded by Jehovah's thoughts, not the shifting human reasonings of men!!

Are you in the truth? The truth is Christ Jesus. Jesus said I am the truth? A better question would be Are you in Christ ( mentioned over 300 times in the New Testament. If anyone is in Christ then they are a new creation, Old things are gone and all things are new and all things are of God 2 Corinthians 5:17 ❤

Satan is not the best😂

The constant “mmhmm” is annoying.

I am the Firstborn, brought forth. I am identical twins. I am Equal to MYSELF. Adam and Eve in the Genesis account was created for the Last Days; I already said that then ... Genesis 3:15. I AM MELCHIZEDEK. I AM EQUAL-MELCHIZEDEK. I HAVE NO END. I AM THE KEEPER/GUARDIAN OF ALL PROPHETS ON EARTH, FROM AONS TO AONS. Abel, Adam, Eve as HOMO SAPIENS did not exist. Cain is the evil in man, the dark side. Abel is the good in man, the light. This light must be found and explored by humans. The Holy Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation is a concise version of the Vedas to repent the outcast man; compare the Gospel of Mark to the three others. It is the Purpose of MYSELF, is to find yourself. A quest for everyone. ... Origin: April 2020

Yes soul searching…looking for myself…I like this version a whole lot better, & I sometimes come to realize the real me was there all along, the authentic self, no longer the cult self 🥹. So thankful

There is a thing called marking. Its when you miss meetings or put work first ect. Its not a DFing offense but you can as an individual mark that person or family and not associate with them. You are not supposed to tell anyone, but as with all things in the JW cult they gossip like hell. They all do it. I used to spend time with a friend who's dad was an elder. I could hear him talking to his wife at times about Judicial meetings and who was doing what. My friend would even tell me. If an elder knows it the whole cult knows it.

And that's where that is wrong, it's not a conscience matter, it is a matter of your conscience. It's like the first time you ever told a lie, you got away with it even though you were scared and then you were able to do it again with no fear. You damage yourself, you have then scared your conscience. That happens many times through many different ways throughout your life. That's why you have to stay awake, be alert, be careful of the things you do and say.

Dress is very controlled by the cult. Women can only wear dresses at the knee or below. No cleavage at all, Men can not wear suits that are form fitting. If you stand out its wrong. You need to blend in. Usually black dark blue or gray suits.