Etanercept for Stroke Recovery: MYTH? or Reality - Andrew Stopps

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In this compelling interview, Etanercept recipient Andrew Stopps takes us on a journey through his experience at the Institute of Neurological Recovery in Boca Raton, Florida, under the care of Dr. Edward Tobinick.
Join us as we delve into Andrew's initial discovery of Etanercept the fundraising efforts to make the trip possible, and the challenges and triumphs leading up to the procedure.
We discuss Andrew's neurological deficits prior to the treatment, offering insight into the struggles faced before seeking this innovative therapy and discovering the emotions and anticipation surrounding the day of the procedure, as well as the firsthand account of receiving the injection and the immediate effects experienced.
Following the procedure, we unravel the aftermath and the guest's journey of recovery in the days that followed. Hear firsthand how life has changed upon returning home to New Zealand and resuming daily activities.
00:00 Introduction
03:50 The first deficits and information about Etanercept
07:52 Off-label use of Etanercept for stroke recovery
16:51 Preparation for Etanercept treatment
26:58 Etanercept helps reduce inflammation
34:34 Cognitive function testing and treatment for stroke
41:04 The initial improvements after the treatment
48:41 The number of shots required for treatment
54:14 Getting back to work after the treatment
1:01:26 Relearning how to play musical instruments
1:08:40 The follow-up treatment
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@wompol7117 2 месяца назад

my stroke was a year ago. the neural fatigue was the biggest surprise. i now know why babies must take three naps a day and just fall asleep wherever they are. programming or reprogramming the brain is SO energy expending!!!!

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Is it getting better?

@wompol7117 Месяц назад

i was doing well then last week i had a second i am ordring a tray of etanercept

@dwaynesemple864 2 месяца назад

Thank you for this ! I have researched this treatment for a year and a half. I’m booked for The treatment in July and I’m feeling a little more comfortable with the decision.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Awesome. I hope you have a great outcome. If you would be up for it and like to discuss your experience please reach out.

@dwaynesemple864 2 месяца назад

@@BillGasiamis I certainly will do that,

@phillusted7364 2 месяца назад

Are you flying from Australia to US for the treatment?

@dwaynesemple864 2 месяца назад

@@phillusted7364Canada

@user-re1gg5wv2i 24 дня назад

Best wishes to you. I too have been exploring this procedure for about a year. I have the necessary paperwork in hand and plan to submit it soon. I will then have the consultation as to whether or not I’m a good candidate. Please keep us posted on your results. I personally would love to hear from you.

@user-yq5cr3kz3p Месяц назад

Thank you for this interview. It helps a lot to know about all the procedures that no one considered to do it before. One thing that I was really waiting to hear was how his mobility was after the shot. I may be wrong, but he only responded how good his leg felt when you asked him about his mobility I don’t know how he’s walking now. I hope he’s walking independently. Anyway, he will be back to where he was before the stroke eventually, because the scientific breakthrough in regard to stroke and the health care in general is very promising and good luck to him.

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

he is walking now and back to work teaching at school.

@fbawaterdragon4592 28 дней назад

I live in Mississippi, USA. I had a hemorrhagic stroke August 27, 2022, on a Saturday night. I couldn't walk and barely could talk. By December of 2022, I could walk with a walker, but my arm and hand hardly had no movement. Last year in 2023, I made some progress. I no longer needed a cane or walker to walk, though my right leg become stiff. However my right arm and hand still gave me trouble, but it's less spastic and tight than it was in 2022. Fast forward to today, and it's pretty much the same problem. Hopefully, botox will get my right arm, hand, and leg moving significantly. If botox don't quite cut it, I'll head to Florida to get the treatment. Just the same, I never doubted Enbrel for stroke recovery didn't work, but that price is very expensive😮😮😮😮😮!!!!! It's countless videos online to prove Enbrel does indeed work. However if if comes down to getting this treatment, so be it. I'll gladly spend all my life savings to get this treatment, no matter the cost. Yera💧.

@BillGasiamis 28 дней назад

it does seem that Etanercept is a last resort for many people and cost is certainly a big reason

@blurtbum 14 дней назад

@@BillGasiamis : Hi Bill, the price of Etanercept is a bit of a mystery , i guess using it for perispinal treatment could be the reason for its high price , as for it being used for arthritis its absolutely dirt cheap , in Australia the cost for resident with medicare card is only $30.60 cents with out card its $877.99 , keep in mind for $30.60 you will get 4 auto injectors with 50 mg of Etanercept now considering only 25 mg is used to for each perispinal treatment means there is enough for eight patients , not sure we are getting the whole truth why this treatment is considered controversial

@blurtbum 14 дней назад

@@BillGasiamis : i have spoken to many doctors here in Australia and to my amazement most have never even heard of etanercept or of its intended uses , they no nothing of it and that is disappointing , they know nothing of the two clinical trials done in Griffith University in Queensland or the extraordinary positive results

@BillGasiamis 14 дней назад

@@blurtbum⁠it’s very common that our Drs especially GPs won’t know anything about it. Also it not approved here for anything other than Rheumatoid Arthritis so even if they did know about it they would never suggest it to much risk of getting in trouble by the Medical board. That’s why these podcasts exist so people like us can find out things that doctors don’t know.

@blurtbum 13 дней назад

@@BillGasiamis : Thanks for reply back Bill , another problem is getting messages through on YT, i sent one to you detailing actual cost of medication with some other info and it didnt get through , disappointing , i have the name of another interesting drug thats had one double blind trial with great results on TNF , just hope you get this then i will share info as i believe it will very helpful

@jeffmills4103 3 месяца назад

I read about research of using Etanercept for relief of chronic phantom pain of amputated limbs; Exciting times!

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

Yes is seems to help some people reduce the pain.

@alsetpsm1373 2 месяца назад

Why this treatment is not available World Wide with all these stroke patients who have recovered (watch and the patients testimonals on the INR youtube channel of Dr. Edward Tobinick and read the additionnal information following any video) ? The price per shot will go down only if the Etanercept treatment is offered World Wide in hospitals and clinics.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

it's a great question, not sure of the reason.

@musicvisionvideo8198 Месяц назад

Is it that big pharma don't want to lose out on the money that's made when people have to take medication for the rest of their lives? This is the only thing that's making me so hesitant. Why isn't everyone raving about it.

@alsetpsm1373 Месяц назад

I've finally found out why it is so expensive. There are at lest two generic that can the same as Etanercept Enbrel by Amber (Pzifer) and these two generic can not be spread in the US because of patent litigations ... which are less expensive but available at least in Canada and other countries. It's a Monopole issue as well by Amber own by Pzifer !

@alsetpsm1373 Месяц назад

@@musicvisionvideo8198 This is a one or two shots but it's quite expensive compare to two other generic that can replace the Enbrel Etanercept own by Pzifer which is exclusive in the US for patent litigation !

@Rock-yn9no Месяц назад

@@alsetpsm1373 I'm really getting tired of hearing that corporations are doing nothing to heal the public, but only covering their own bottom lines.

@rebeccacampbell8020 Месяц назад

Thank you very much for having this in depth conversation about all the things I’ve been wondering about this process.

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

My pleasure, so will you be going forward with the procedure?

@jcgillis Месяц назад

Im taking my mom in Sept. Each shot is $8400USD. They recommend 2, one week apart. And you can come for another one 6 months to a year later. I’ve been researching it for 7 years…finally decided to do it once my mom got covid and her stroke symptoms got wayyyy worse. (Supposedly due to inflammation in the brain)

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

I’d love to hear about the results if she’s happy to share. I do hope it is a success.

@jcgillis Месяц назад

100% she wanted to do it originally and seems excited to know we are going 😊

@faisalahmad3309 3 месяца назад

Thank YOU BOTH🙏

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

Any time!

@qplanet 3 месяца назад

Thank you. (I'm Andrew Stopps)

@wompol7117 2 месяца назад

a nurse practitioner, i decided to experiment on other noninvasive modes of non-invasive administration. i am having amazing personal results!

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

🙏

@musicvisionvideo8198 Месяц назад

Hey, are you a nurse in America or the UK? Very curious to hear more about your experience if you would like to share.

@wompol7117 Месяц назад

nurse practitioner in the usa

@wompol7117 Месяц назад

i will share results once first few cases have run the course of four treatments so i can share information

@GailFarbman-tq1jn 21 день назад

what are you doing? I need information as to what I can try. the doctors are of no use. they have as little information as I do. however I am the one who had the stroke and suffering from the side affects. I"m in a position where I'm wanting to try a possible helpful treatment. where do I find what is available?

@stevedonnatvcanada3480 Месяц назад

Hello Bill. I’m Steve from Nova Scotia Canada. Had a hemmoraghic stroke 2 years ago at age 56. High blood pressure burst a small vein in my right side of brain. Within minutes I was paralyzed head to toes on left side. I spent 4 months in hospital and rehab. Upon returning home I was walking albeit laboured and left arm and fingers started coming back. But when things started working it brought severe pain in buttocks- to toes, and arm and hand fingers. Docs said it was nerves retiring back up. 6 months later the pain continues to ramp up. Physio and strength training made it worse. Today 2 years post stroke my pain is extreme. Only meds bring that pain down a bit. My wife is American and very skeptical of this being the only doctor that does this?? The costs?? Extreme. The videos the doctor produces are all good news stories. However I have more of an open mind and I’m willing to give this a shot. I appreciate your interview with this guest. I look forward to knowing more about this. I don’t know if I have brain swelling? Here is what my doctor told me the other day… “There’s abnormality where I had the stroke, but what happens is when you add That it was a big one like I had, the nerves that come down from where that stroke happened end up degenerating, they are not getting a signal. That’s what showed up on the MRI That’s why I still have the symptoms I do on the left because some of those nerves are basically gone and cannot be regenerated”. Thanks. Reach out to me if you want to

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

I like that your wife is sceptical and at the same time you are looking for solutions together you will both be able to make an informed decision. I might be able to get you in touch with Andrew if that is helpful. Also check out this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lqsLY06cm18.html and this one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_1MbqaOdcJ4.html

@stevedonnatvcanada3480 Месяц назад

Thanks for the thoughts and the links Bill. Unfortunately our health system here is great but backed up and huge delays and treatments like this are not considered here. Not even on radar. So when I discuss with my medical team here, I’m warned of the possible negative consequences that could come from this. Especially being a foreigner. I sent them a note tonight , I’m thinking I will hear back this week from them. Anyone else considering this treatment??

@BillGasiamis 28 дней назад

@@stevedonnatvcanada3480 I understand what you mean about the Canadian medical system the Australian one is also backed up after the pandemic

@RandallPrescott-ub5rv 2 месяца назад

Thanks!

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Thank you very much Randall

@conradfajardo8881 2 месяца назад

If only the procedure is made available in the Philippines. I hope they catch on sooner than later. Tnx for the very comprehensive video.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

I wonder if you can reach out to any doctors in your area to ask them if they know anyone running a study of the medication for stroke survivors.

@conradfajardo8881 2 месяца назад

@@BillGasiamis I asked some Neurosurgeon friends but they are not familiar w the specifics of the procedure. They know the work being done in Florida but there are no efforts to bring it over here in the country

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

@@conradfajardo8881 I understand

@lynnelliot7256 Месяц назад

Thanks so much for this video♥️ im so pleased for you. im in nz too, im a pension who was totally independent until i went to hospital 1.9 years ago, they gave meds that didnt agree with me, it made me violently sick and gave me a mini stroke. it didnt feel so mini!! ive been researching and watching videos on etenercept and the good dr tobinick. I want to go and try it for myself. I am used to travelling alone but feel it would be too hard like this. Could you please advise how long i would need to apply for a visa to get into america, and what to allow for accommodation costs?? I really just want my life back. Ive asked my dr about etanercept but he jyst changes thr subject, same with physios, no one wants to talk about it. The monthly stroke coffee group head said not to share it around, no explaination why. I would really appreciate any input you can give, thank you🌻

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

I do believe the travel visa is very easy to obtain and only takes a short amount of time. Your doctors and therapists won't talk about etanercept because it is not approved for stroke in Australia. The rules in Florida are very different.

@Rock-yn9no 3 месяца назад

Thanks guys. This is cementing my thoughts in having it done. If I was dr. T I would ask his patients who have had it done in the last fee years, to comment about how they are doing now? It is strange that you find so few comments talking about it years later after the shot?

@qplanet 3 месяца назад

I think it's because if you get good results like I did, you just want to get back on with your life. I doubt I will still be talking about this 2 years from now

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the interview Andrew. I am so glad it has helped you.

@jameshallett5252 3 месяца назад

Great video, I’ve just booked in for August 2024!

@junesmith995 2 месяца назад

@@jameshallett5252Hi James, my husband is scheduled for August as well. Let’s hope you and my husband have great success.

@Rock-yn9no Месяц назад

@@jameshallett5252 Was that the fastest that you could get an appointment?

@marthaharvey8499 15 дней назад

I wonder if anyone that had the procedure had any bad reactions or side effects, I just wonder if can in any way affect your general immunity to other illness in the future, if because how is applied can provoke another bleeding, or can in any way make things worst. After a lot of progress and with just “minor” problems left after the stroke you hate to do anything that could make things worst. Any advice/comment will be appreciated.

@BillGasiamis 14 дней назад

I have never spoken to anyone that had negative sides effects but that doesn’t mean there are not any. I am in a similar situation with my recovery. I have no noticeable deficits and the ones you can see although bothersome don’t stop me from living life. So i am in no rush to try an invasive medical procedure if the outcome will only mean small or marginal improvement.

@user-vn3hc8pm5s 2 месяца назад

Great !

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

👍

@phillusted7364 2 месяца назад

Looking forward to seeing what the outcome of the recent trial here in Australia finds. Results are due mid 2024

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Do you know what the study is called?

@phillusted7364 2 месяца назад

@@BillGasiamis conducted by Griffith university called “ Stroke Clinical Trial - Perispinal Etanercept”

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

@@phillusted7364 thanks Phil

@musicvisionvideo8198 Месяц назад

Thanks for the info 🙏

@imransaqib9720 2 месяца назад

Really helpful video. I've been look at INR videos and it's good to get an independent review of this. I wonder if the time between the stroke and injection makes a difference. Also looking at the videos it seems the shots are more helpful for return of cognitive functions more than for physical conditions like an nonfunctional arm. Did you find any evidence about this?

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

The time between the stroke and the injection doesn't appear to affect the effectiveness of this procedure. In terms of physical improvement, it could also be the case that when an arm hasn't been used for years, it requires physical rehabilitation in addition to the injection. The injection might be beneficial for the neurological aspect of the arm condition, but muscle rehabilitation is a separate matter.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

For people considering Etanercept i think this is an important video to watch. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lqsLY06cm18.html

@imransaqib9720 2 месяца назад

Thank you. Just looking for solutions as my partner had the stroke last year in January and getting 2-3 times physio a week but the arm function hasn't returned.I'll check out the other video as well@@BillGasiamis

@josephineevans3026 5 дней назад

In Australia trials were done at a Brisbane hospital funded by stroke victims and were very successful but permission was denied to use this treatment in Australia, my specialist said it was because it was opposed by big pharmaceutical companies . Etanacept is very cheap in Australia and has been used 4 arthritis 4 years so the pharmaceutical companies won't make any money. Something needs to be done but how do we get government to put people ahead of profit 4 large companies

@rechellew1390 Месяц назад

I wish there was a test to see if your defecits are due to inflammation or brain damage,maybe the more testing that is done with this and maybe if they seek fda approval

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

I agree its a great shame. You should check out this interview ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lqsLY06cm18.html

@markradler2926 2 месяца назад

Can you send a copy of the link of the video that the INR made of your treatment

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yNELJsFYRys.html

@yaronkl 2 месяца назад

I must have missed it in the video - I understand that he had a stroke , but when, what we his mobility and upper limb deficits as a result?

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Andrew describes the deficits at the 3:50 minute mark

@isaaca5394 2 месяца назад

Hi Bi).do you mind emailing asking, how long it took you to regain use of your left arm and hand?., I know all strokes are different. I just want some hope. Thanks

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

My left arm and hand always worked although not very well for some time. It was weaker and I was lacking coordination. Since 2014 the arm and hand are still weaker but getting stronger, and coordination is also largely improved. The skin on my hand is sensitive to touch and colder than the other side. Did you watch the episode with Dr Amir Hadanny? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lqsLY06cm18.htmlsi=Bwkk2uN2h2G_YB4C

@grateful5668 2 месяца назад

Hello, how many months since your stroke you did the treatments and are you still seeing improvements?

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Hi, the interview goes through all the details and I believe address your questions. Have you had a chance to watch or listen to it?

@new2film1 3 месяца назад

Andrew - Thanks so much for sharing your dealings with Etanercept. I was curious about it and you took my thinking from it's fake, to it helps some! Bill - Thanks!

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

Glad it was helpful!

@AlanDavid 2 месяца назад

no fake!Look up the studies

@jltyndall1 2 месяца назад

Have you used HBOT? I didn't hear the guest mention it either. Just curious, as it is also supposed to help with brain inflammation.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

I haven’t met any one who has used HBOT but I recorded this interview about HBOT. recoveryafterstroke.com/the-hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy-dr-amir-hadanny/

@tammyboone1629 Месяц назад

We used HBOT for my daughter following her stroke. She had improvement following HBOT. She was also receiving occupational & speach therapy and her therapist backed up her positive results from HBOT with improvements she observed by testing.

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

@@tammyboone1629 HBOT seems like a great protocol. where did you guys go for the therapy? Are they known for stroke recovery?

@tammyboone1629 Месяц назад

@BillGasiamis HBOT was recommended by her neurologist at Duke University Medical Center in Durham,NC. She had some follow-up treatment after we returned home to S.C. That was when she was also getting ST & OT and testing for results from the ST & OT. My daughter had radiation induced moyamoya syndrome that was the cause of the strokes at 19yo.

@Rock-yn9no Месяц назад

Has anyone heard about the results of the double blind testing in Australia? It was supposed to be done mid 2024? I would love it if US Medicare system would pick this up as one of the plans of action for recovery.

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

This is the most recent post about it. florey.edu.au/news/2021/08/the-florey-institute-examines-common-drug-as-new-stroke-treatment-in-the-first-large-scale-trial-of-its-kind/

@AlanDavid 2 месяца назад

i too got this treatment knowing 20% get no result.Sadly i got little. mostly cognitive and balance improvement.Not mobility.I would like to get another shot but its not possible now

@deborahpeters2311 2 месяца назад

Hello @Alan, my husband is scheduled for a consultation with the clinic soon. Would you be willing to explain why it's not possible to have another shot now?

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

@AlanDavid How long ago did you have the treatment?

@AlanDavid 2 месяца назад

@@BillGasiamis last Monday

@TLR5759 2 месяца назад

@@deborahpeters2311the cost?

@tinam2696 Месяц назад

Itbis a disappoinment that in 6 years this injection is STILL ONLY available in FL.

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

I agree with you, its crazy how there is nothing outside the US either. Here is a place in Kentucky that does it. regenmedky.com/stroke-traumatic-brain-injury/

@tinam2696 Месяц назад

@@BillGasiamis ...Thanks

@AlanDavid 2 месяца назад

there is a dr. in kentucky doing this procedure too.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Do you know that doctors name?

@AlanDavid 2 месяца назад

@@BillGasiamis id have to email you, hes not big on publicity on socials

@rebeccacampbell8020 Месяц назад

Following

@musicvisionvideo8198 Месяц назад

Please give the name if you can🙏

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

@@musicvisionvideo8198 regenmedky.com/stroke-traumatic-brain-injury/

@Mazeisaspace 3 месяца назад

I went it did not do anything for me, etanercept sometimes doesnt work. It is the same for RA.I do still believe in the mechanisms of action.

@Mazeisaspace 3 месяца назад

that said HBOT also reduces inflammation.

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

Have you had HBOT?

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

We did discuss that in the episode. Were you told that you may not get a result?

@Mazeisaspace 3 месяца назад

Yes it is ' only' 3/4 that get results, in April I am doing hbot.

@qplanet 3 месяца назад

I have used HBOT too. Great therapy.

@lynnelliot7256 Месяц назад

I've been looking into this for about 6 months now, I had decided that I was going to go to florida and try this. Thank you for doing this video🌻I just have to figure out how I get started. I too, can't afford to do myself. I am thinking that first I have to write up my story, do I put as much in as I can or do I keep it factual but short? Do I book an appointment before I ask for financial help? Do I list the costs for people to see? Can I mention that if there is any monies left, I would donate to a charity? ( If I was fortunate enough to raise enough) People can be so kind☺️ I would have to find someone to come with me too. Where do I start?? Thank you so much and I really hope you keep improving🌻🌼

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

First set up a funding campaign and then tell people about it start with your story, ie what happened to you then explain what you are trying to achieve by going to florida, www.givesendgo.com/ best of luck

@lynnelliot7256 Месяц назад

Thanks so much for your reply. I am halfway to setting up the campaign, cost of flights, injections, accommodation. Can I please ask what to allow for Dr Tobinicks consultation and administration of the injection fees. I'll keep you updated on how things are going. Thank you

@BillGasiamis Месяц назад

@@lynnelliot7256 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-98JQij4VVNA.html watch this

@TLR5759 2 месяца назад

How come no one does a long term result on this drug?

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Because the drug is out of patent and pharmaceutical companies can't profit largely from it so they do not see the value. There is plenty of research with regard to its effectiveness for arthritis. Here is a document that you might want to have a read of. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4110406/#:~:text=Activated%20microglia%20release%20TNF%2C%20which,following%20perispinal%20administration%20of%20etanercept.

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

The study was done by many people including Dr Tobinik

@TLR5759 2 месяца назад

@@BillGasiamis thank you, I had a stroke about 2 months ago. We can find all kinds of videos on how this drug helps people right after the shot, but no long term results!

@isaaca5394 2 месяца назад

Hello Bill, did you get the injection ?

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

Hello, no i did not.

@isaaca5394 2 месяца назад

Bill*

@igorklisovic8674 3 месяца назад

Vjeruješ li dragi Bill u ovaj lijek i ovaj tretman...onako,u dubini duše,iskreno...velik poozdrav

@BillGasiamis 3 месяца назад

I do see that it has merits and the medication has been in use for many years in the treatment of arthritis, but don't take anything I say as medical advice.

@ClaireChaker-qr8ty 2 месяца назад

Watch your blood presdure dont go over 120 uver 70 and dont have one!

@BillGasiamis 2 месяца назад

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@user-vi5to5wp2l 21 день назад

Yes I have congestive heart disease and renal kidney faluire of 73 persent current Dr says I was throwing up this weekend and I have bad neuropathy and ephsdema swelling in legs and feet do to me haveing congestive heart faluire. Why I don't need no problems or drama in my life I can have a stroke because I have congestive heart faluire and I swelling in feet and legs from my congestive heart faluire and me haveing neuropathy and emphedemia badly in my legs and feet I pray for healing in my body and health Felicia Gonzalez

@BillGasiamis 21 день назад

best wishes to you Felicia