The winter freeze is impacting residents across Chicagoland, but some EV drivers are facing an additional handful of problems as they deal with long lines at charging stations and reduced battery life.
And literally none of them paid attention to any single bit of knowledge that any person driving an EV should be aware of. Prepare and pre-condition your battery, preheat and plan your charging in advance of important travel, you know, common sense.... Every problem could have been avoided and the funny part was, every ignorant driver was bound to end up at the chargers, their computer literally directs them there. The people stuck there are the same people that you see that run their cars out of gas and are stuck on the side of the road, it doesn't seem as big a deal because they all ended up at different points on the highway but now their computer sent them to a charger. Our problem is more a lack of competency and general common sense, noone calls out others incompetency anymore for fear of getting cancelled but I may just go to a supercharger if our weather gets that bad and just teach people how to avoid this in the future ...
They don’t find it convenient. It’s like trying to explain someone who lives in California and/or supports the Biden Administration. The thoughts that have infiltrated their heads and compromised their thought process are as difficult to comprehend as they are disturbing.
@@supraman321na4couldn’t have put it better myself it baffles me the number of people who spend wild amounts of money on vehicles and do absolutely no research and don’t even understand what they’re buying to begin with and I personally think that ev’s are amazing if used properly for every quirk an ev has the ICE vehicle has its own equivalent and vice versa this is partially due to a lack of infrastructure but in this scenario I can almost certainly guarantee this is a lack of competence and preparation or general knowledge of their vehicles people fear the opposite of what they own because it’s “different” and they don’t understand it they’re to quick to spew incorrect facts as if they’re true statements not for the purpose of educating others or stating their clearly bias opinion but with the arrogant purpose of making the ladder look bad
@@corbinb5410 good to see others just being realistic, an EV is just another tool and it's current state is not what it will be 20 years from now, one thing humans do well is constantly strive for generalized improvements in efficiency for work (most forgot that "work" can be just a description of an electric motor being operated to turn wheels). It is always going to be inevitable, we will transition (albeit clumsily) towards a lower entropy future.
@@aigtrader2984 How do the charging stations get their power? How did those “green” vehicles get to the dealerships? Talk about something you know about.
I don’t know why anyone ever hopped on board with the EV crusade. If nobody started buying them as a novelty, we wouldn’t be heading down this ridiculous road.
@@Mid.night1000rr I wonder how many times the average person has to freeze before they realize they bought a disaster. I also want to know how many EV buyers have gone back to ICE verses how many are on their 2nd or 3rd EV. I bet not to many are willing to buy another one but would like to see real numbers on that.
i'm not an environmentalist, but i like breathing clean air. and i support local manufacturing and a lot of EVs are being made in the US. if Muskster's supercharger network is not what he promised, then he needs to solve that problem. he tends to lie a lot.
@@trippplefive Well you might be interested to know that personal vehicles only ever accounted for 7% of global emissions. So even if everyone converts to an EV, it will make absolutely zero difference in air quality.
You wanna ride like you live out on the west coast forgetting about that January February blues, electric propulsion solely from a battery doesn't work in the winter
@@Plisken65oh should he be a Keisha and say y’all muthafukkers or a yankee thomas and say yous guys? Sorry you’re so low iq that you cannot understand the English language has more words than your brain can handle. Uppity imbecile
Hilarious 🤣...... Drive whatever you want but don't be ignorant about how best to utilize what you drive. People running out of gas and pushing their cars or carrying a can of gas is no different than these people..... Facts... Ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law nor is it for the privilege of driving, remember noone has a "right" to drive....
Remember when those guys were humble bragging about saving the world buying an EV, or them telling you they are better than you? I remember well. I am so happy they drive an EV this winter. Thanks guys!
Thoughts and prayers to them. I'll be sure to think about all those stranded EVs when I drive around in my 392 V8. Also, EVs can't start = less traffic and more room for me.
@@Randomvideos250 lol so what you can charge at home what's the point. When you can't go that far on a charge . You don't have that problem with the gasoline car
I’m done. I was stranded on a Michigan 1 degree day for 7 hours. Teslas are horrible. Once the battery dies, you are totally locked out. Even once i was at the charging station, it wouldn’t charge because it needs power to unlock the charging port even when the cover is opened.
correct, that's why Tesla limited the charging speed in cold weather to protect the battery, these people would charge it fast, burn the battery then complain the car is no good, or sue Tesla!
So we know about the high end Tesla's in the cold now what about the low end EV,s being sold ? I can only imagine how many of them are dead and un-usable putting their owners in life threatening danger being caught out in the cold and can't get to work because their vehicles are DOA .
When a normal car battery dies and you have a jumper which I keep in my vehicles it will jump your battery and get you on your way or a tow truck carriers jumpers cable's with them . Either way a vehicle that has only a main battery is an easy fix unless the starter or alternator is bad .
@@terryfrit3749 if the battery is completely dead ain’t no type of jumper including the jumpers Thor used to jump his Mjolnir is helping you out Touch grass
Haha it’s a lawn mower. That’s like putting your cellphone in the freezer 🤡🤡 these people still won’t learn. Hey that tow truck that runs on gas will come to the rescue
Wish the reporter had dug a little deeper. Were these folks on a trip? Locals who can't charge at home? Dozens of cars waiting looks bad on camera, but there are 10s of thousands of Teslas in that bitter cold having no problem at all - because they can stay plugged in at home. There are problems that are unique to EVs, but as drivers learn what those issues are (and the number of places to charge increases) the drivers won't get themselves caught out like we see in this video.
Won't get caught out? What I have learned over the last few days is that travel range suggested by car's software doesn't match the real range. And discrepancy is huge! How any sane person can plan anything without knowing if he will get to his destination in time or at all?
@@dmitryk7320 You don't say which car you are talking about. What I have found, having driven first a model 3, and now a model Y for a combined 124,000 miles is that the car has steadily gotten better at estimating range - especially if you use the navigation to specify a destination. I find the car is very accurate at predicting how much charge I will have when I reach the next charger or final destination. The route planner takes into account the charge at the beginning, the speed limits and actual road speeds based on current traffic, elevation changes, wind, and of course temperature. If it says I will arrive at the next charger with, for example, 11% of my battery remaining, it is usually with 2% of that estimate. I always use the route planner - it's built in, super easy to use, and has real time access to the internet to know about wind, temperature, traffic, and how full the chargers in the area are. You can get yourself stuck, but the car gives you tons of accurate info to minimize the chance of that happening.
@@dmitryk7320Why won't you know that? You will know that. The efficiency can be lower in the cold weather, e.g. 2.5miles/kWh instead of 4 miles/kWh, so estimate accordingly.
@@callistoscali4344 The reason a driver wouldn't know the range is that Elon Musk instructed his software engineers to design their software to give the most optimistic range figure possible after charging. Once a driver starts driving, the range drops considerably.
Thing i dont understand is... why do they need supercharging when the cars should be fully charged the night before at their home???? If you have an EV, you should pre-plan for all conditions ahead of time. I have both an M3 and MY and still love it in cold subzero weather.
The problem is, even at home with a "fast-charger" it takes hours and hours to charge, and lets not forget about those thousand plus dollar power bills a lot of them are paying monthly for these so-called "green cars".
@@backnu I would disagree with your comment and misinformation. I currently have 2 teslas (M3 and MY) and using for daily trips (work, errands, family, etc.,), I simply plug into my level 2 charger and my cars are 100% by early morning. It doesn't take long hours to charge. Also, the cost to charge at home isn't $1000's (thats more ice cars). My average per month is around $60-$80. Please be more informed
Very odd that multiple news stations across the country are covering this exact story in the exact same way (recording lines at a supercharger, showing a tow truck)
There's no conspiracy Sales of EVS last year was record-breaking huge. Throw-in record breaking cold and you're going to have this exact issue. And in case people forget, electric heaters use huge amounts of power whereas conventional cars use the engines waste Heat
@@digitalhen plagiarism of news reporting especially video is extremely common . And to be fair, the news isn't really the news anymore, it's basically informational entertainment. If one station has a good Scoop and high traffic viewership, dozens are quick to imitate, frankly because it's easier. A proven recipe is safer and financially more lucrative.
@@safeandeffectivelol they are absolutely having many problems in Norway don’t listen to these people. Their cars are having problem in these cold temperatures to EV’s aren’t going to be the future.
@@Crusader1984 Yep, totally, the thousands of EVs that start every morning in -30C while fossil cars don't. First hand experience on that multiple times. lol Article posted yesterday: "87% of cars needing start boost are fossil" - Teknisk Ukeblad
Hint: Tesla V4 Superchargers are not made for winter weather. Finland has the very exact problem with these Supercharger stations and the cables are left to ground or drop from hook to the ground rendering Tesla chargers useless.
Not being on the same continent as Chicago, would I be right in thinking this is the very first time that the locals have experienced sub zero temperatures? This can be the only reason they are buying cars that are useless when it's a bit chilly! My 54 year old MGC is coping perfectly well with the sub zero temperatures we're experiencing here.
No. It happens every year. I live in Chicago all my life. It's called the windy city for a reason. We are right next to the lake and the closer you are to the lake the colder it gets.
How does everyone forget that these are all the same people that used to run out of gas in their ICE vehicles back in the day and they didn't get smarter, nowadays a computer just helps remind them to go to a charger and the ignorant people all just ended up at the same place 🤔
Haha I filled up my tank in less than 10 mins. I'll use it for days. There is nothing unusual about it EV batteries suck in cold weather. It is a known fact and the media acts as if they are surprised. EVs are what they push, but seemingly do not understand how they are made, operated, and maintained. Also extinguished when they light up haha.
Weird. Its been minus 10 for the past week and snow almost every day and I park outside and I haven’t even had to take my ice scraper out of the trunk. These people are stupid.
We found cave men frozen in the ice from 10,000 years ago. 10,000 years from now Tesla drivers will be found frozen in their cars by the Earth's next inhabitants!
This is more of a metaphysical thinking question but what the hell... This isn't the first winter in...well EVER. This also isn't a particularly bad winter, or the worst winter. But this is the first time I'm seeing all these...I mean, a LOT of news reports on Tesla's breaking down with crappy charges during the winter bit. So...the question, is why now? Seriously, I genuinely want to know if there is a secret kabal of highly influential people pulling the news strings behind the curtain (behind the scenes) feeding us this line about how awful Tesla cars are. For the record, I don't own a Tesla; don't really care too much for them. But still! I genuinely am curious, and want to know what is going on...because any normal person with at least two brain cell can tell that there is a little bit of tomfoolery going on here. what give?!
What gives is that there is a sudden rise of people who own electric cars/Tesla who do not know how to use them or what to expect. Too many people owning electric cars without knowing what they are or how to operate them properly.
It happened because lot of fools bought EV`s that did not know electric cars needed warm batteries to be charged and now these fools is running out of juice while waiting in line... The people that bought the cars in the beginning was smarter and avoided this because they did know how electric cars work and how the battery work in the cold (or rather how the battery do not work in the cold...).
Maybe it's just a perfect storm of the number of people without home charging using the same set of Superchargers that happen to fail during a cold snap. To me, I can't tell from the video how these factors fit together, what causes what, etc. It does seem to show that, for now in wintery North America, the electric vehicle only makes best sense if you can home charge. Makes me wonder how Sweden and Norway handle this, beyond their relatively short driving distances.
I bet it's a lot more people who live in apartments or condos who are now buying EV's because they see more charging stations. People with a garage who can charge at home should not have these problems unless they use the car as a taxi or delivery.
It's because the MSM and social media are pushing their agenda and are not being honest about the reality of the EV's downside. EVs might be ok in some cases for some people but they are trying to cram them down everyone's throats and take away our choices.
Why can't they just charge against home? I have only used a fast change once just for fun and I have had evs since 2012. All my cars are plugged in right now. What's the problem?
Sorry, this is going to be long… I have several issues with this story. Tesla, as part of its computer software, shows the Superchargers that are available, off-line or if there is a wait to charge at any given location. If you have very little charge remaining on your EV, perhaps it would be wise to navigate to another Supercharger location (BTW, if you use Tesla Trip Planning to navigate to a charger, it automatically ‘preconditions’ the battery for optimal charging speeds. If the ‘car expert’ in the story owns a ‘certified Tesla’ service center, why is he going to a Supercharger to charge? Also, if you do precondition with an already low state of charge, and go to a Supercharger station with a wait, you run the risk of running out of energy before you can charge as it also takes range away from the batter to precondition. Honestly, I think the real problem is information. A lot of people in the market for an EV just think they are cool and don’t do enough research about them to see if they can deal with the peculiarities that come with EV ownership (they are not for everyone). Also, EV owners think of DC fast chargers, like Superchargers and Electrify America, as if they are ‘gas stations’. The main reason for DC charging is for road tripping, which I don’t think any of the people stranded were (would have been nice to know that part of the story). If you are going to own an EV, the main place you should charge is at home (which is also cheaper). It’s my opinion that if you don’t have a committed place to charge an EV, like home or work, you shouldn’t own one.
FACTS!!!! Well said. I am so tired of seeing this stupid story! Charge at home or work. If you don't have a dedicated place to charge as stated. DO NOT BUY AN EV!!! You are not ready for one. Of any sort! I have ZERO issues with charging. Superchargers are for road trips! PERIOD! F***!........
Nope, I'm not angry at all. I am just tired of mis-information. Research before puchase. Simple. Don't talk smack because you made a poor buying decision. I LOVE MY M3P!! Okay thanks BYE!
I filled up my gas tank in 3 minutes and that was walking in buying smokes and soda as well And i didn’t buy a vehicle who says is green but what about the slave labor to work the mines for the batteries components
Well those that read there manual it tells you to keep battery 🔋 charged up 30% when temperatures drop just like they tell you to keep you’re gas tank half way.
BMS doesn´t work if you never reach ~10% on your battery though. Law of chemicals.If the BMS cannot work, because you only run your battery from assumed 80 to 30% then your battery will die young. This rule isn´t just valid for e-cars btw. The same rule applies to tablets, smartphones, laptops etc which use the same or similar types of rechargeabable batteries.
On the contrary. Now I don't have to go fill up my wife's car after she gets home. I just plug it into our Home Level 2 Charger and go back to what I'm doing.
Lithium ion batteries don’t take kindly to very cold weather. They tend to drain faster when not in use and charge slower. Preconditioning the battery doesn’t always help. If you charge your battery every time it reaches 30%, you’ll be charging all the time.
yeah genius, great idea to "condition" my battery before charging... Well guess what, it drained even faster, and we didn't make it to the charging station.
Cold weather across the country exposes the serious drawbacks to owning an E.V. I sure as hell ain't waiting 45 minutes every 200 miles to fuel my vehicle. The Cybertruck turns out to be an albatross.
Well in Kerry's defense he is not a complete hypocrite he does own a Tesla. However he also owns a number of other vehicles, a hugh yacht, the private jet of course and 5 houses, which are probably powered or heated by fossil fuels.
