EV Myths You Thought Were Facts 

Politicians don't say things that aren't true, do they? 😂

I recently got an EV from BYD. Most of my friends and family called me crazy and stupid as they vomit upon me all the myths she’s talking about. They really believe in their hearts all these lies. My sister even told me never to park next to her car since my new car is due to explode any moment. She wants to protect her stinking ugly Toyota from burning up because of me.😮

"Where there's muck there's brass" or in other words where there's a free (or cheap) resource (eg dead batteries) there is money to be made.

The idea that batteries can't be recycled seems to stem from the fact that single cells and small battery packs in things like toys and power tools are difficult to recycle, economically. Especially if they're in a mix of things with single of few cells built in that has different battery chemistries in them, even worse if those things are mixed in with other garbage. Some sources even point to the low recycling rate caused by people keeping things like old phones even when they get new phones. It's a totally different situation with EV batteries, large amounts of only desirable materials, with the same, often known chemistry, that means much less resources are required to recycle than it takes to extract new materials. Mining represent a very dilute and mixed source in many cases. One "argument" I haven't heard in a while is that EVs use mostly fossil fuels based on the idea is that any additional power draw comes from sources you can control, which means fossil fuels, in many cases. It used to be a very popular argument here in Sweden, "they" said it didn't matter that we had almost entirely fossil free power generation, as added power draw reduced our net export, and in essence that was compensated by more coal power generation in countries like Poland. There's partly valid reasoning there, but then again, that validity don't apply exclusively to EVs, and the fact that EVs are charged when they're not used and therefore more off-peak than on-peak. Also refining and transport of fossil fuels require so much energy that the net increase in energy use when you forget about the energy in the refined fossil fuels is pretty small. I don't have any exact numbers, as it varies, but 2 kWh per liter of vehicle fuel is a common number. That means just producing and transporting fuels for ICE vehicles requires almost as much energy as equivalent EVs use for a given distance traveled, ergo, there won't be any big increase in energy demand from EVs. Where and when, and in what form that energy is will change, but the transition to EVs won't increase the energy demand much. There's some idea floating around about that it will be impossible to build out transmission capacity for charging EVs in residential areas. As if residential EV charging was carried out at extreme rates, and I guess, very well synchronized. EVs alone will typically increase overall power demand by 10-20% in most countries, that process of replacing all ICE-vehicles on the roads will take decades, so, the increased demand from EV charging will be

I love the one that says that all the multistorey car parks will collapse and the roads disintegrate due to the increased weight of EVs.

this one is easy to bust- "the EV's are poluting more with dust from breaking pads, because they are heavier"

How about the EV myth that heavy EV's will collapse parking garages. And tear up roads. And particulates from their tires will be more polluting than steel mills.

Politicians certainly can screw up this transition. AU replaced it head turd win a slightly less absurd one, while NZ just got 3. The only thing I hate about my EV is the lack of a spare tyre.

One fact that is often 'forgotten' is that the refining of fossil fuels uses a lot of electrical power. Reduce fossil fuel use, leads to less electricity being used; so there is more available for EVs.

It is only a matter of time before caravans and boat trailers get built on top of an ev battery with sufficient hardware that the car is only directing the caravan/trailer. The cars won't need to "pull" it at all.

As EVs and solar both go up their S-curves, I can see a condition where EVs are mostly charged during the day, soaking up the extra PV electricity around mid-day.

Last year Robert Llewellyn included a stat in one of his videos on the battery waste from single use vapes. It was staggeringly large. So, the myth that EV batteries all going to landfill is further challenged by the number of non-EV batteries not being recycled.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and videos. The key thing is to keep the discussion going. I have been following EV technology for more than 30 years and have retired from the electric power industry with more than 30 years experience. The overall cost of electricity is in maintaining the system both physically and dynamically. The actual cost for power is the least expensive part of the formula. Although vehicle to grid is possible I fail to see the situation ever becoming economical for an individual to expend the life of their significant investment in exchange for the minimal rewards that a utility would pay them. As far as grid capacity I have no doubt that the power industry will keep up with the demand as long as the politicians keep their distance. The grid is at more risk from bad politics than electric vehicles charging. I suspect a solution will come from charging stations that recharge their own batteries at a controlled rate based on system costs and then charge vehicles out of the batteries at rates based on the cost of actual cost when the batteries were charged. This will allow competition between charging stations trying to get your business, not just making it available at highway costs to dependent customers. Restaurants, stores, and parking lots may even offer charging as a benefit or even as a loss leader to their patrons.

This is a very Australian based view on this subject. Europe goes from about 36°N to 62°N. Melbourne is at about 38°S and Northern Australia is about 11°S. So if we moved Europe to its equivalent southern latitudes it would be between mainland Australia and Antarctica. This means that solar power charging in the winter months is not great and that occurs just when everyone needs to heat their homes which, considering the push to go for electrically powered heat pumps instead of gas, means there will be severe strain on the electrical systems in Europe. You mentioned copper in the batteries but did not make a comment on the copper required by the motors and wiring in electric vehicles or the extra copper to increase the capacity of the supply grid. There is also a need for an increase in the supply of large transformers which currently have a long lead time. You also did not mention what the effect on an EV is of days or weeks of cloudy weather and temperatures close to 0°C on the charge in a stationary EV. Population of Europe is currently about 747.64 million, Australia is about 26 million. Close to 29 times more people in Europe than Australia. Lots of people in Europe will not have the type of home that can have their own solar power or even their own charging point and will have to use public chargers that currently do not exist in the necessary numbers. So the realities of EVs in Europe is not something that can be glossed over in a video commenting on the facts regarding EVs. Did you see the recent news of what was happening in the north of the USA when the weather was freezing?

Unfortunately I can't get to Everything Electric in Sydney this year. Did make it to Fully Charged last year. Still, very glad to know that you are involved.

I wish the high price was a myth too 😂 Greeting from Germany, keep it up

Our Tesla will be 10 years old next month. The battery is fine. I would happily take off tomorrow on our 1740 mi/2800 Km roadtrip to visit family.

To add a few anecdotal evidence to this. I was one of the early adopters and bought the 2012 Model S, with the 85kwh battery. After 11 years and 250,000 miles, the battery was as good as new (new was 240 miles, after a quarter million miles, it was 220 miles) Replaced it last year with the new Model S, because, 1000hp, and 400miles range!! I love my Model Ss...LoL

The battery to grid technology is going to be huge. Even though the average vehicle is only driven 40 miles per day, range anxiety due to fearmongering has forced companies to increase battery size far beyond what’s needed. Once consumers realize they can charge those batteries during off-peak times then sell that power back to the grid for a profit the concern about switching to green energy is going to drop substantially. All it takes to see how much people love saving money on gas is driving past my local Sam’s Club gas station and seeing the dozens of cars waiting in line to save $.10 a gallon. Now imagine the average American Dad realizing he can actually MAKE money off his car!

I’m glad you paired up “There aren’t enough minerals for the batteries!” and “We aren’t recycling the batteries!” That particular absurdist contradiction is my favorite, too.

This report feels like looking at a high gloss paint finish in the sun.

I have heard that utilities are able to use used car batteries for grid storage. Maybe this will also slow recycling?

After looking at all the pros and cons of various EV options, I am convinced that the best option for most people is a plug-in hybrid where most of your power comes from an electric utility, and you have a gasoline engine for those few long trips. With a pure EV, you have this big, expensive, heavy battery that you are always lugging around - even when you don't need it, which is most of the time.

My concern is repairability. Yes EVs have less maintenance, but I worry I won’t be able to get parts or tools or information to fix it myself like I do my 15yo Mazda SUV with 175000 miles on it. I keep everything as long as possible and repair everything myself because I want to minimize waste and cost. No reason I can’t get this car to 250,000 miles or 20yrs old - I worry I couldn’t keep an EV going that long without significant expense (replacement battery)

Wow. So much great news here! We're all onboard with the transition to EVs now! You're an engineer, so naturally, you must be right! We all look forward to checking back with you in, say, 2-4 years on the anniversary of this uplifting video to confirm everything you've said here! It will be such a fun celebration! There are so many mean people out there right now who say that without at least quadrupling current electrical grid output, that there simply isn't the slightest possibility of being able to charge a one-for-one publiic transition from ICE vehicles to EVs, but thankfully you've put those concerns to rest! This transition is going to be much easier than anyone thought! Great tidbit, too, about scraping the oceans for lithium with no mention of environmental impact! Pfft, nothing to worry about, right? Interesting sidebar: by 2027, Ai will consume 25% of all electricity on the planet, but the bedazzling and uplifting information you've presented here has undoubtedly taken that into consideration With your level of quality engineering advice, the future looks pretty darned bright! And don't listen to those who call you a sellout to the greenwashing corporatists because those doubters are just jealous of your more liberal interpretation of physics. Carry on.

an F150 is a quarter of the cost of running an ICE ... show me the numbers, I'll get a beer

I'd be very interested in seeing Rosie and John Cadogan of Auto Expert go head-to-head.

There is an Australian You Tuber who's sole mission is to spread EV Myths. His favorite myth lately has been EV Fires. He was so convinced that the Luton Car Park Fire was caused by an EV, even after it was confirmed to be started by a diesel Range Rover, and that the adjacent car park where the EV chargers are was not involved at all. In addition to recycling EV Batteries, they can have a long second life in stationary storage applications. My 2014 Nissan Leaf (one of the first 700k EVs on Earth) is still going strong, and likely has another 5 years of battery life. At some point I may upgrade the battery to the 60KWH pack, and convert the old pack to stationary storage at home. It could be 25 years or more before that original pack goes off to the recycler.

What would be the environmental impact of extracting the minerals from the sea. Surely this would be detrimental to marine life. Australia knows about this more than most with the issues around the GBR. The truth and fiction around EVs is so confusing. I listen occasionally to two other RU-vidrs and they certainly don’t present the same cheery outlook. Thanks

That was a pretty optimistic review of the Ford f150. They're not selling well here in the states after the initial excitement died down. EVs have great potential for daily driving, but towing with them has apparently turned out to be a dismal experience - no range, endless charging. Most EV problems with cost and charging are probably fixable, eventually, but towing may not be one of them.

Hi Rosie. The EXOdrones hava a list, Insurance, Tire wear solely due to weight, Fires (I know you already did this one) Charging cost and availability, and the old one range anxiety. Great blog 👍

Great seeing you at EE yesterday!

What about the Auto Repair Industry Problems with EV's. Insurance companies are becoming aware of the problem of repair. So Insurance costs are going up.

200 km of range while towing! Whaaahahahahahaha.

The talk about killing weekends refers to people who like to get away from the coastal cities in Straya and go caravaning at their favourite spot next to Dingo Piss Creek far from civilisation. Not many EV charging spots between big cities. An ICE vehicle can get fuel at even small settlements in the bush.

A few other myths that have been thrown at me: 1. What about when your battery dies after two years? 2. You are going to destroy the roads with all of that weight! 🤣

Hi Rosie. Great content as usual. Another common myth in America is that taxpayers offset the cost of ev’s and that only benefits the rich elites who can afford them. I’m pretty sure government subsidizes lots of things like fossil fuels, food, education, defense.

We can't extract lithium efficiently enough out of seawater to nake it viable so it doesn't matter how much is in the ocean. This is no different than the extraction of gold from seawater. The F150 is sold at a loss and may well get canned before the end of the financial year. It will never be sold here. Also 200kn while towing isn't even far enough to get to my friend's place one the way to the unpowered property we camp at. There is no guarantee of battery recycling. The problem isn't scale, it is that recycling isn't cost efficient compared to new mined materials. I have spoken directly to leadership at an at scale energy company in Australia and they are adamant that not only is there not enough genrative capacity but basically all of the distribution infrastructure needs to be replaced to emable ubiquitous EV charging. None of the EV manufacturers support vehicle to grid due to liability and insurance issues. Enabling this as a feature impacts battery life span and hence voids the warranty. The mining and refining of minerals is a very dirty process performed in countries with very poor records all powered by fossil fuels. It all runs on diesel and brown coal. On average the CO2 break even point between an ICE and EV car in Australia is 150,000km assuming charging on grid. Solar improves that but that assumes the power used doesn't displace the use of that solar for other purposes and that you are not actually using the car day to day in the first place. Buying an EV to replace an ICE to reduce the operational CO2 of a car you barely drive ensures you will never actually break even on the total lifetime CO2 of the vehicle. Overall I think EVs are really cool and very nice vehicles but the tens of billions of dollars needed to make them widely viable in Australia is a poor case economically and environmentally. Durability is also a concern as we drive.thr oldest cars on average of any developed country. There isn't enough charge/discharge cycles in a 10 year old EV battery to get them to the bottom half of the car market where the most polluting cars are. This is the biggest issue. These cars are essentially disposable.

Thanks, keep up the good work with myth busting. Sadly there are are so many youtubers who can get cheap hits/likes by propagating the usual crap about batteries in landfill etc. I worked most of my life in recycling and of course the batteries are way too valuable to landfill.

I'm starting to encounter a problem on RU-vid where if I refute misinformation in peoples' comments by replying to them, and cite a source, my comment is deleted. I often use your channel as a source. This video in particular, today.

Thank you, great video. My favourite myths is: Solar panels will “use precious land field”. The reality. Solar panels can be installed on roof top, so they do not need to be on land fields. Also, nobody talk about the amount of land field wasted right now for bioethanol. Just in the EU we use about 177 000 KM2 to produce bioethanol to poor into petrol cars for E10 petrol. If we would burn this bioethanol in efficient power stations and all petrol car would be replaced by electric, this bioethanol could power all electric car for 6 month.

Australia can not keep homes comfortable...Queensland's state-owned power grid remotely turned down almost 170,000 air conditioners six times in the past two months as part of a scheme to protect the electricity network.

People chose to switch from horses to ICE powered vehicles because the economic and environmental advantages were obvious. Not so with EVs, govts applying unrelenting pressure to force adoption. The push for EVs ain't gonna end well.

Thanks Rosie, so many myths on evs debunked.

Catching fire is a common claim. Not a big thing but worth putting in the next one.

My favorite is "EVs take so long to charge." I got my Nissan Leaf in 2011 and I've waited zero minutes for it to charge, because it charges when I'm sleeping.

As recycling increases and grid co2 decreases the carbon footprint of ev manufacturing decreases, so in a few years even the manufacturing will cost less carbon than ice vehicles.

You can combine points 1,3 & 5 not only can batteries be recycled, they can also be re-used as grid batteries ( helping the grid #5 ) before recycling them. This is already happening in the US. because EV batteries still have around 80% of their capacity when the vehicle reaches its end of life there are companies that buy them cheap, and then batch them and use them as grid batteries. Since when used on the grid energy density is not important that they hold 80% or even only 50% is not important if they are cheap enough. After they can no longer be used as grid batteries they can be recycled.

It is also fun to look back of myths that are no longer relevant: - "An EV is soo slow even the most basic petrol car has to wait at the traffic light" - Currently almost every EV is a 10 second car (Fast and the Furious reference). "Range is soo bad you can only use it in your own town" - This has shifted to being unable to drive for 1200 Km without adding going to a gas station (say the people that are probably not hypermiling).

they are finding.in the northern places the cold is cutting the charge life, and time to charge are making EV cars unpopular.

In the US, all the EVs combined are using about on half of one percent of the total electricity consumed through the grid. In actuality it is far less than that, because most EVs are charged at home, many from home solar installations. Now factor in that refineries consume more electricity to produce gasoline for an ICE car to drive 100 miles than an EV consumes over that same distance. As EVs increase, ICE cars will decline giving a net *reduction* of electricity used for every ICE car that is replaced by an EV. I don't think we need to worry very much about the grid being able to handle EVs.

How many people like me on a fixed wage ever afford an electric F15 lightning ford let alone pay the insurance on it

Those puns kept making me think of "Undecided with Matt Ferrell"

It would be good to see links to the data/reports used in this video. Some have no reference on the slide at all.

You lightly touched on undersea mining and in a nuetral way. This is a strong negative point for some people. Another gripe I've heard is the increased weight of the vehicle will damage the roads.

Question; 30% efficiency is the normal quote for fuel use in ICE cars/trucks. However, does that include hauling the fuel by truck and trains to the fuel stations? Oil and gas heaters for home, same question. I suspect they are not.

I'd like to know more about how you arrived at the breakeven distance for CO2 emission for an EV over an ICE vehicle of 20,000km? I've done some calculations comparing a Tesla Model 3, with a Mazda 3, and found a breakeven distance for CO2 of about 105,000km, at last year's NGA of 0.73kg CO2 per kWh. That's quite a bit different to 20,000km?

EV’s are doing so well that manufacturers in the States are shutting down production.

My biggest gripe with EVs is I can't get long life out of them. I used to change out my cars every few years, but as I became more concerned with profligate consumption I decided to keep my current vehicle until it dies. It is in its 11th year and it has not missed a beat - still has the same range, towing capacity and fuel consumption and I expect at least another decade out of it before it needs a power train upgrade. Sadly EVs are likely only going to last a decade as their batteries will no longer be fit for purpose - sure, they can be used for stationary storage, but when they are bonded into the vehicle this becomes challenging - do I need to park a bunch of old EVs in my driveway to use a V2G domestic storage?

One caveat here: if the goal is to help the environment, changing our communities to be less car-dependent would do more to help the environment than switching to EV cars. Here in America, we have stupid zoning laws that basically make mixed-use walkable neighborhoods impossible. We really need to relax those laws, but most of those laws are local rather than state-level, so this is going to be a long fight. At least here in the USA.

Whilst you make some valid points it does mainly rely on things that you say will happen but have not yet. It also fails to take into consideration human nature and behaviour as well as economics.

Not a single EV survived our last Cold Snap of -50°C neither did the Chargers, they crashed at apx. -30°C They need to come out with a Cold Climate Package EV for places like Canada 🇨🇦

Australia does have more sunshine than a lot of countries. My village only gets solar power during the summer and odd days through the rest of the year. However, I normally don't drive that much...so during the summer i can charge a car in two days. the rest of the year i would have to charge via the grid...and still save about $120 per month over fossil fuel.

What about public transportation. When compared to electric individual or family vehicles, do they amount for the same level of pollution?

87% of electricity comes from coal fired power stations in Australia....

i think we also should have a look at the impact of maintenance of an ICE vs EV propulsion. as the degradation of the efficiency of an EV vs an ICE engine. second any polution generated by an eV is done by the power generator which has more close monitoring of its efficiency during generation than the power conversion done in an ICE when it is used. and second the polution by an ICE is highest with variing loads like driving in the city where you do not want it.

What I would love to see is the psychology of people who sit in chat online to be so hardcore against the thing in the video. I get trolls. But I *think* some of these people are really opposed to EVs, Solar, Wind, Storage and are yelling at people in chat because they don't agree.

Another of my favorites is that they cost so much more. But the operational costs are less than half that of a comparable petrol car. Similar to the minerals point, the cost is recovered in just a few years.

Here's a claim to "debunk", why are manufactures rolling back or halting EV production? Um, world wide yes the grid's can't cope. You don't like oil, but you're okay with mining? What is the cost of separation of battery materials? How much energy does it take?

EVs Towing a caravan, …. pay even more extra to get a car with an oversized extended range for long distance travel, then find out that it won’t do the range as advertised because of the weight you are towing, then find out that all the EV charging points don’t accommodate any vehicle that is towing something, so that you need to unhook the caravan elsewhere, and have to leave it parked up unattended while you go off and charge the car up, to then have to come back and hook the caravan up again before continuing on, [all of which you have to do do multiple times during your long distance journey].

Great review Rosie. Although not a myth, I would also add that electric drivetrains require far less maintenance and have a much longer life than ICE ones, which means they create far less waste. Besides all the myths you mentioned, it is funny to me that many of the detractors' arguments stem from comparing a +100-year old mature technology with little else to offer to one in its early stages. I guess people following that logic tell their kids not to try sports (or anything else for that matter) because they can't beat current professionals at the peak of their careers!

1:50 Rosie... 200km towing range is not going to take you on holidays. Nowhere in Australia, could you drive in 200km stints and recharge at fast charge points to an interstate holiday without spending most of the holiday parked in a car park plugged in. EVs make great sense replacing family vehicles on short haul day to day trips. Trying to win over the skeptical public with facts like a 200km towing range just serves to show that it's a job still best suited to fossil fuel power. 6:04 How do you arrive at the 20,000km breakeven point on emissions, I'd be interested to know?

Someone tried to convince me about number 5 a few hours ago. I knew it was wtong, but not everyone know the truth. About battery recycling, I thought they are still piling up scrap material for when they can recycle it. You corrected me on that. Thanks.

What about the truth that there isnt the grid capacity/ Load carying capacity in current city infrastructure or buildings.

To me one of the biggest hurdles an EV has to overcome in the US is infrastructure. The majority of people in the US don't live where chargers are abundant. I believe hybrids are the only hope of replacing ICE vehicles.

Thanks for that, very useful as a retort indeed. However I was a bit taken aback by the part on weekends. Now I am Australian-frendlly (one of my best friends is in fact an Australian :-) for reafl though). But I do think, at least in Europe, the perspective that most middle-class people will have large personal infrastructure like SUVs, large boats, tents more like small houses, etc... to go away on weekends is one of the few things that probably needs to change as leisure time. Instead of going hours away with tons of metal or material, perhaps time would be better spent seeing one's neighbours, or exploring the local area, etc.. For us in Europe, the correspondence is that we have to give up or curtail the concepts of "city breaks" with planes; Deciding on Friday morning to go spend the weekend in Venice would not really be a thing any more (if it ever was outside of movies). We of course want to preserve a lot of the benefits of modern living through the transition, but I think, technically/economically, we should be real that not all can be preserved, and socially/spiritually, we should be glad for the golden occasion to move away from extreme consumerisn and individualism. At least that's my view.

There are myths against, as well as pro electric cars. I am thinking of the notion that they will last longer and be more durable than ICE. In fact, they are scrapped for the slightest damage, mainly because any damage to the battery would be way too expensive to repair. The average lifetime of a car in the US is decreasing, not increasing. To be clear, I do not regard this as a show stopper, and we can, in my view, overcome this, but I dislike any evaluation which only shows one side of the ledger.

Sadly, a lot of this doesn't work well in northern Europe and North America. Cold weather equals range reduction and longer waiting at charging stations. And on a sub zero winters morning, I would be a bit miffed if after an overnight charge, I went to get into my EV only to find the grid had sucked half of it back. I live just on the edge of London U.K. I have a 9 pannel, 2kh solar array on my roof that on a good day in summer will generate about 7kw per sunny day, but in mid winter will make 250w for a few hours. Hardly the future.

And even if the myths were true, even if EVs have drawbacks... That just means we gotta work on improving them. (Like we did with ICEs for the last 100 years...) It's not like fossil fuels are an alternative we can run on forever.

Been driving electric for 5 years now. No problems apart from ice during winter (same issues as gas cars but they heat up everything - once running, EV's don't) but I hear that might not be an issue much longer. Go EV! Fun driving, clean and less hassle (only thing that needs service are breaks).

I'm glad to hear about the recycling percentage! That and using EVs as batteries for the grid could really be a benefit when you consider public transport vehicles too

According to my feed lately every electric car is going to burst into unstoppable flames. Weird that mine hasn't yet 😀

Rosie have a look at ( Patrick Boyle Electrify everything ) EV's great Idea but the biggest problem is insurance cost and also deprecation

It’s not the “myths” that are the problem, it’s the cost and inconvenience. You can’t have high priced inconvenient to use products and expect to appeal to the masses. Either substantially lower the cost or build up the infrastructure and “myths” videos won’t be necessary.

At the first Everything Electric Show (it was called the Fully Charged Show then, and you can find the panel discussion on their channel) the guy from the UK National Grid whose JOB it is to keep track of trends and predict FUTURE DEMAND, said that it would not be a problem even if the did not build more capacity. There is an ongoing reduction in power demand due to things like fitting LED lighting in offices and factories. The cost is now nearly the same. I replaced the fluorescent strip in my kitchen for an LED with the same light output but with less than 20% of the power consumption (6.8W v 38W) but at about the same price. I bought it from a supplier who supply almost exclusively to the commercial market, so I was paying a one off price for an item they were quoting prices for 1,000s! The same thing is true of EVs and buses. BYD have partnered with Dennis in the UK, and are producing buses and trucks by the 100. The National Grid love it because they are doing deals with the fleet operators, who get cheap power at night when they are charging, and sell it back to them at peak times during the day. It irons out the peaks, lets them use all the wind and hydro during the night, and they can closed all the coal stations.

Here is what i have seen on other channels. 1. EV's are more expensive 2. Insurance is more expensive 3. Maintenance is more expensive 4. Charging stations are not up to the task (cost to install charging stations would be prohibitive) 5. EV's don't work well in cold weather 6. EV's don't work well in extreme heat 7. Tires last less than 10,000 miles 8. They extend trips by hours because of the charging. 9. AC reduces range 10. Running the heater reduces the range 11. 6x more minerals to produce an EV 12. Truck range is reduced to about 100 miles when towing 13. Parking garages are not designed for extra weight of EV's 14. Guard rails will need to be upgraded because of extra EV weight 15. Batteries produce toxic fumes when burning 16. Takes more water to extinguish and that water becomes toxic (chance of reigniting days and weeks after fire) 17. Would need to double the amount of electricity produce. Would need more infrastructure. Most of this extra would be from burning fossil fuels. 18. Increased danger to those driving lighter cars 19. Short life of the batteries (they degrade from the day you purchase the car) 20. No resale value. So the upside to buying an EV is?

One issue: V2G is not going to happen and here is why.....People need their car to be used next day or on the weekend, so you hardly going to discharge it into the Grid. Current solar export per KWh will give you less then a quarter of what it costs you to import from the Grid. So why would you sent it into the Grid and then buy it back at 4 times the cost when you need it. Constant charge/discharge cycles reduce the life of your EV battery. So you are wearing out your EV battery a lot faster when discharging into the Grid.....who is going to pay for the wear and tear? Are the Grid Electricity Suppliers going to pay a certain percentage of the EV battery when it needs replacement? I don't think that will happen.

On one on the youtub chanell I see comparison of electric cars usage in different coutries. This was review made by Lexus diler in Norway. He prezented very honest review about electric cars in Norways. He metion that real range in winter condition drop from 30 to 50% due to low temerature (efficiency of battery drop in freezing condition), however it was not as problematic in Norway as number of charge station is preatty dense. He olso mention that electric car are usually much heaver the other carss of the same size. You have to be careful i winter condition as you braking distance might be much longer then in regular car.

Battery recycling… at the moment it cost about £28 to recoup about £5 worth of materials out of the old EV batteries. The only reason some companies are doing it is because they are being subsidised by the government using public money, otherwise they would be running at a loss and would go out of business. The governments are gambling that the costs of recycling will become cheaper in the future so it will become economically viable when the subsidies disappear.

If you launch your boat into salt water just don't get your EV battery wet or it will catch fire

Great video Rosie. I'd suggest that you put a lil more effort into citations for the facts you present though. I would also be very interested in the source of these myths, but I think that would take a lot more research!

You say Litium ion batteries can be recycled. What percentage are actually being recycled? People claim wind turbine blades can be recycled yet almost zero are. Sure itnis possible but the costs are just too high to make it economical so they end up in landfills.

Hi Rosie. I have had my EV for two year, in that time I have covered 44,000km. Charging for me is 100% from Solar. On average I need between 4 to 6kwh per day, so easily achievable from solar even in Melbourne. Over the two years I have saved A$12,000 this includes zero services and repair costs and no energy costs. EV's are the future.

You forgot the myth that battery packs frequently catch fire. It's far more often than bathtubs, but far less than ICE cars.

Grids have computers using the electric grid as an internet cable today.

Not a claim to debunk, but a point that I think we need to be making - because the key materials in batteries are infinitely recyclable, and there is a maximum amount of batteries that humanity will ever need, once we have ENOUGH materials mined, we won’t ever need to mine more. We just recycle what we already have.

Electricity used to bring the oil up to the ground will - together with electricity for refining the oil - mean that you use far more electricity to drive a fossil fueled car one mile than the equivalent for an electric car!

Looks like politicians and engineers have something in common.

Being self employed SA rural person, I've looked at EV vans, but until I can get 500 kilometres range from a loaded van they are just not feasible. Plus recharge stations are rare, none in most places I go . We just still long way off out rural supporting electric vehicles, just bearly passable for passenger electric vehicles but commercial vehicles no way. Even passenger electric vehicles a challenge out rural. As for recycling batteries, we are so far behind on recycling in Australia it a joke . Also life expectancy of electric vehicles is terrible, we already have Tesla graveyards here in Australia.

I love how people do carbon analysis on Evs based on lifetime emissions. From manufacture onwards. No one does the same with petrol cars.