EV RESCUE: Can The 2021 Ford F-150 PowerBoost Hybrid Charge An Electric Car?

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:07 Ad
2:05 The Setup
3:38 Why and What Are We Doing
6:02 How Does An EV Work?
8:07 Chevy Spark In-Depth
14:52 Running out of Energy!
16:52 Out of Battery
19:33 Deploy The F-150 Inverter
24:04 Loading the Trailer
27:18 Charge and Tow?
32:17 Results!
#fordF150 #electricCar #rescue

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@TFLtruck 3 года назад

Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this video! Head to keeps.com/TFLtruck to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment.

@Davido50 3 года назад

No stopping the full Hybrid F150 truck!

@billalmighty 3 года назад

The pop in ADs are really really annoying. I get you guys are trying to make money but if this is the new norm, I'm moving on.

@LaylaGW 3 года назад

@@billalmighty no money = no videos they are also really easy to fast forward

@dalejones4322 3 года назад

That truck is really cool. This is exactly the scenario that I wanted to see play out. The reduction in mpg on the way back was probably mostly from the weight of the car being towed rather than the charging. Thanks for using your truck for so many interesting videos Andre

@gamebredduramax71 3 года назад

That car is so light Tommy could print lift the back of it himself.

@Sylvan_dB 3 года назад

Or air drag from the car.

@jldude84 3 года назад

Most likely. How many hp does 3300watt/hours of energy require? Maybe 5hp?

@Sylvan_dB 3 года назад

@@jldude84 If 100% efficient, 1hp is 746 watts. Worst case 1hp should be able to produce 500w. For example, a small generator capable of 3300 watt continuous would often have a 6hp to 8hp engine because there is very little rotating mass to carry a demand surge. A 10kw generator will often have less than 20hp engine because larger rotating mass will carry over. I expect 5hp is pretty close. Perfect would be about 4.5hp and a portable 9hp generator would do it easily.

@jldude84 3 года назад

@@Sylvan_dB That's interesting...if that's the case one might assume that it would only take 10hp for 7-8 hours to charge this Spark up completely...seems like a small amount for a car with 200+ lbft of torque that can go ~75 miles on the same charge.

@blueryxfalls7949 3 года назад

andre has put that truck working more than any other new truck owner, probably

@bmartinez2086 3 года назад

Your wrong

@TowPiglet 3 года назад

That power boost is a nice truck

@thatfatboiforu 3 года назад

But is it ready for the hot shot life?! Lol

@DS-TRUCKS 3 года назад

❤️

@chrisdemas8246 3 года назад

Tow Piglet! I agree, that onboard power is a game changer for camping/overlanding.

@TheInspiringKhan 3 года назад

Where you been my guy.

@larrybe2900 3 года назад

@@thatfatboiforu It is a F150 and not rated for heavy work.

@kc2giw 3 года назад

Charges at 3.2 kWh, charges for almost 2 hours. Andre: wow how did you guess so close!?!

@bloodbushcraft2467 3 года назад

Lol. What is this thing you call math

@smarticus6384 3 года назад

Every new full size pickup should have this technology. If not, then you are paying way too much for it.

@yankeedoodle7693 3 года назад

At this point, I agree. Ideally, there would be 2 motors working with the ICE and putting the power through an Ecvt.

@Anomize23 3 года назад

Dont tell the EV fan boy’s They get sensitive saying hybrid is old technology

@patrickmartin3322 3 года назад

Or make it diesel electric, like a freight locomotive, to have the best of everything

@jasperpetersen8241 3 года назад

all ford is missing is the air ride that ram has only reason ive even been tempted to buy a ram with the air ride its just ALOT smoother ride and thats something i have to have with my back lol

@aggiewoodie 3 года назад

@@patrickmartin3322 diesel, for half tons, is dying in the US. Low sulphur fuel and engine emissions regulations make them too expensive.

@dereksmith1803 3 года назад

So, I made this comment in one of your post videos about Andrey's truck - that he could start a side business rescuing dead EV's

@jghall00 3 года назад

I thought about this because I have an EV with 115 miles of range. But level 2 charge is very slow...only 20 to 30 miles per hour. A better solution would be a battery that can load into the rear of the truck and do DC fast charge. Even a slow one would fill up an EV at 3 miles per minute. Most people that get stranded just need a little range to get to a charger nearby.

@yzhang8629 3 года назад

Maybe tow truck drivers should start to carry big inverter generators with them

@RahulBonnerjee 3 года назад

When the engine shuts off - goes into hybrid mode- while you pull away charging another electric vehicle in the trailer you're hauling.... minds blown!

@mtnbikegeek1 3 года назад

Have you considered installing a tow bar on the Spark and flat towing it to see how quick it will regen recharge? I’m sure it’s not the recommended recharge option, but I’m sure many would be curious.

@cameroneshleman4833 3 года назад

That's actually a great idea. Would love to see it

@ericdehn7473 3 года назад

That would be a great scenario for RV owners with a flat tow vehicle, especially going downhill!

@Tim-Tiller 3 года назад

Actually it can damage the car to do that for an extended period of time. Flat towing is not supposed to be done with these for that reason.

@Tim-Tiller 3 года назад

@@JT_771 it would be ok for a short distance at low speed, not highway speeds though, my son tried the same with his Chevy Bolt. It worked but I wouldn’t do it myself.

@jldude84 3 года назад

There's a channel called Warped Perception, the guy recharged a Tesla just by towing it with a tow strap (at highway speeds no less) behind a Mercedes... It worked.

@jeffpierce3436 3 года назад

The perfect range anxiety solution!! Buy a Mach E and an F 150 hybrid and drive both cross country 👍 Well done, guys!! (now I just need 100k 😂)

@middlehot 3 года назад

Lol i need 150k here in Canada

@Davido50 3 года назад

No stopping the full hybrid F150 truck. Best of all worlds! My next family rig. Ordering this mo. 700 mis per tank fuel . The possibilities are endless really.

@nathanielthelin1051 3 года назад

I love mine. Definitely the nicest truck I have ever owned. I can't wait to buy a camper and do some off grid camping.

@hunteruplinger5862 3 года назад

So worth it! I ran a full size camper (38 foot) this weekend with the ac, refrigerator, tv, and even a small washer and dryer. Someone hit a power pole mid load and didn’t want musty clothes haha

@bmartinez2086 3 года назад

Well it has a big tank of gas my truck get 570 to 600 depending on weather and I have a 24 gallon tank.

@lapamful 3 года назад

No stopping the hybrid F150 truck. You mean except for Ford's appalling record for reliability?

@jabroni6199 3 года назад

Ford really needs to add this inverter tech to their super duties. I’m in the market for one once the market resembles some form of normalcy but I’d have serious reservations buying one without the inverter.

@rzu7120 3 года назад

Their super duties don’t have the hybrid’s high voltage battery pack.

@jabroni6199 3 года назад

@@rzu7120 they don’t need it. Inverter is an inverter. They’ll just have to have the engine running. The inverter on F150s is available on mon hybrid models too, up to 2.4kw. Super duties have larger alternators and can Be equipped with two of them.

@rzu7120 3 года назад

@@jabroni6199 In that case, add your own inverter. They're readily available.

@jabroni6199 3 года назад

@@rzu7120 genius idea. Ford was dumb to put this highly praised feature on the F150. They should’ve just listened to your idea.

@larrybe2900 3 года назад

@@jabroni6199 They probably wanted to use the F150 as a proving ground before adding it to real world constant use.

@JimmySeahawk 3 года назад

Word of the day "un-jiggled"

@gruneflamme2013 3 года назад

A pretty cool idea. At the very least you can charge it enough on the way to a full charger that you can drive it on/off the trailer and not have to push a dead electric car. (I wrote this just a couple minutes into the vid so idk how it went yet)

@Davido50 3 года назад

Very cool. I want the F150 Powerboost!

@denisbrisebois7658 3 года назад

That was an interesting video to watch Andre & Tommy. Great example by using the water bucket analogy to explain the charging process etc. A++

@getlosttoday4045 3 года назад

Happy 4th of July Tommy and Andre!

@RogerM88 3 года назад

Plug-in Hybrids seems the right choice in near future. No range anxiety, less expensive battery pack, less pressure on Electric grid, better suited to places without proper charging infraestruture.

@jghall00 3 года назад

Just depends on the use case. Here in Houston, my Focus Electric with 115 miles of range handles all the daily driving. If we tow or need the extra seats we use the Expedition. The FFE more than offsets the poor mpg of the Expedition and requires far less maintenance.

@jldude84 3 года назад

I still feel like the ultimate would be a diesel-electric hybrid. A regular EV but with a little 1000cc 50hp diesel to just chug along idling to pump ~20kw/h into the battery for those emergencies when you're completely out of juice in the middle of nowhere. Maybe some solar panels too in the roof...

@johnbrown4350 2 года назад

Not to mention the efficiency of a motor on the highway and the electric batteries in the city

@BlueDually4x4 3 года назад

I think this and the adventure bike test the other guys did, does a really good job demonstrating how well the truck's inverter supplies power even while driving. 13mpg isn't terrible considering; trailer rolling resistance, the drag from the car and the load off the inverter. It will be interesting to see how the Super Duties do if they get the same or higher rated inverter.

@patmason7276 3 года назад

Just get a 50 mile extension cord or just get a hybrid problem solved.🥳 Love to have the 7.2KW F150.

@dut822 3 года назад

@17:30 "We are in the middle of nowhere" hahahaha. You are down the road from my house.

@scottyellis3442 3 года назад

Interesting, great test for both, great video. Thanks for all you do. 👍🏻

@srviper650 3 года назад

Great work guys. Thanks for great video. Answered several questions about my PB.

@johnvehling6304 3 года назад

Thanks for driving through my former 'backyard'! I used to work in Larimer County, and very much enjoy identifying landmarks within your videos. Keep up the great videos!

@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 3 года назад

SparkEV was sold in CA, OR, MA, Korea, Canada, Mexico. SparkEV is still the quickest accelerating of any car in its price range (EV or gasser), quickest charging to 80% in C rate of any EV (2.9C 80%, Tesla barely cracks 2C), and second cheapest EV ever sold (cheapest was 2 seater SmartED). At the time, it was the most efficient production car in the world, achieving 5 mi/kWh at 62 MPH (100 kph) in the real world.

@androsborsato 3 года назад

Wow, production quality just keeps getting better and better! Nice work folks!

@stevent3450 3 года назад

I just purchased the 2021 F150 Hybrid on Thursday, its build date is 5/21/21 so its fresh off the assy line , still getting used to it , but odd in town I am getting 28.6 mpg in stop and go traffic and very happy with it so far, I noticed country Hwy Driving at 55 mph the engine shuts off and it runs on battery for a short while

@qo2rj 3 года назад

Very cool experiment! I can easily see local tow service companies get a fleet of hybrid F-150's for their battery replacement service which would then also include EV recharge service

@machfive916 3 года назад

Happy Independence Day to the TFL crew!

@EuFaloDeCarro 3 года назад

These guys only have the coolest cars/trucks

@dommm111 3 года назад

Happy 4th of July 🤠🇺🇲

@mdragon99 3 года назад

Gotta give Ford props for the F150 Hybrid. First innovative 1/2 ton since 1/2 tons were invented!

@zacknelson8918 3 года назад

What about the diesel dodge put in there 1/2 tin b4 anyone else? Not innovative enough ?

@RobCabreraCh 2 года назад

That HEV F-150 makes me so jealous! They are proper proper machines!

@patrickirish8110 3 года назад

Mr. Electric Tow...ET?! Andrey, you were born in Russia, not the Delta Quadrant of the Galaxy! That rig of yours is quite useful with its ability to charge in addition to its other capabilities. As for Tommy, yesterday we get to see you in your sweet, new Jeep, and today in a powder blue, toy car where a prerequisite for driving is tossing your shame out the window. Jokes aside, a great vid for a lazy, Sunday morning.

@CliffWarren 3 года назад

There is a channel called Engineering Explained. On it they pulled a dead Tesla in regen mode, with a pickup, once around a track. They were then able to drive five laps around the track! (If I remember correctly.) This was a mind-blowing video and is highly recommended. Suppose you need to travel 30 miles, and you have a dead Tesla and a pickup with one gallon of gas. How can you do that?

@glutenfreejoe6099 3 года назад

Very cool video 👍👍 I owned a 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid from 2006 to 2020, sold it after bought another Camry after 155k miles & it still got 35mpg to 45mpg Cool that Ford F150 Hybrids can charge EV cars and trucks during towing on a trailer

@mannyjr8979 3 года назад

I expected andre to push the spark up the trailer when it started slipping lol

@mariourias8 3 года назад

Long video hahaha buuuuut totally worth every minute!! Keep up the awesome work guys!!

@jyharris 3 года назад

Very cool video. Nice matching t-shirts BTW 🤣

@timothycoates4723 2 года назад

that was fun to watch, nice job, no arguing yea!

@sergeis2746 3 года назад

Thanks for the review 👍

@johnyim5262 3 года назад

13:49 ah the electric car in its native habitat, the left lane going the speed limit matching the speed of the car in the right lane so no one can pass.

@abqcrutch 3 года назад

Nice matching t-shirts! Did you coordinate prior? Lol

@rzu7120 3 года назад

Roman made them wear the shirts!

@WW-wf8tu 3 года назад

Happy 4th of July TFL!

@TFLtruck 3 года назад

To you as well!

@rileynelson6447 3 года назад

Here's something to try: drive the ev on the same route, killing the battery again, but this time, drag it home behind the truck and use the regenerative braking on the car to recharge the battery, see what kind of fuel economy you get on the truck and how much different the amount of charge is on the car.

@mbiker345 3 года назад

I’m hoping the new Toyota solid state batteries can get the energy density up. Battery vs petrol energy density is really terrible. I really like the simplicity of electric drive, just want the technology to catch up to modern standards/expectations. Sure hope the new tundra hybrid can provide all the power that this Ford is.

@ghostlegit 3 года назад

Don't buy an electric vehicle. Waste of time and money

@josem3474 3 года назад

@@ghostlegit I mean maybe most electric cars of today are. But electric cars in 15-30 years will most likely be better then gas in ever way other then sound.

@Davido50 3 года назад

Let's focus on Ford. There accomplishments. All American ingenuity. The fabulous F150. Americas truck !

@Anomize23 3 года назад

@@josem3474 nah just new problems coming. It aint that great.

@jghall00 3 года назад

@@ghostlegit I daily drive an electric car and save miles on my Expedition, which I use to tow a 7k travel trailer. My used EV saves me over $200 a month, basically paying for itself and saving wear on my tow vehicle.

@TheOriginalSvT 3 года назад

I like creative videos like this tommy 👍

@jamescharles8663 3 года назад

Thanks for informative and entertaining video .

@tim_gifford 3 года назад

Nice review Tommy and Andre. At least when the Spark ran out of juice and it started to rain you had the F-150 to charge it. I was more curious on the charging capacity of the F-150 than the Spark’s ability to accept the charge.

@jghall00 3 года назад

It's 7.2kW on board. They've tested it before.

@Crazysonicccc 3 года назад

This is a really cool video Makes me glad I will never switch to hybrid electric cars

@SERGERYO 3 года назад

Very nice, friendly and interesting video. Thanks!

@bgb702 3 года назад

32:07 That was a strange editing decision brother!

@seanhershey3390 3 года назад

Whoops.

@YZ250Yamaha969 3 года назад

Yup 33:00

@Sylvan_dB 3 года назад

The bucket analogy is good. To take it a little but further, as the bucket fills up you slow down the fill rate to avoid spilling over. A battery spillover would be very bad, so the charge rate reduces as the battery fills up the last 20% or so. And when you first start filling an empty bucket, you might start with a dribble to make sure you are aimed at the bucket to avoid spraying wild or tipping over the bucket. An empty battery also starts charging with a reduced rate for the first 10% or so.

@pernell4351 3 года назад

I like the view on that road trip.

@billsmith810 2 года назад

Pretty cool test and it says a lot for the F150 hybrid. BTW, I've had and am enjoying my 2016 Spark EV fun little ride and perfect for city/urban environments.

@johngalt4829 3 года назад

3 kW loss is about 14% in 6-7 years, and the car only has about 37,000 miles; roughly 525 charge cycles. I don't think there will be much of a used market for these as the battery will probably need to be replaced before 100,000 miles.

@kkitzhaber 3 года назад

Fun demo. Thanks.

@chaleowin7732 3 года назад

This is a leap forward for EV, I'm impressed. Great video! (I miss living in CO)

@S2kBPRIME 3 года назад

Cool test, very cool truck!

@americanrambler4972 3 года назад

I just flat out got a kick out of this episode. Using a Ford F-150 hybrid as a Chevrolet Spark Ev range extender. Let’s see what happens when you try it with a Tesla, Leaf and a Ford Mach-E and a Wrangler 4xe.

@jghall00 3 года назад

Exact same thing. They all support charging from a 30 amp.

@rickkinnison9573 3 года назад

Tommy already charged a Smartcar from Andre’s truck.

@bostondan77 3 года назад

"you little blueberry" LMFAO

@vettle1 3 года назад

I love how they didn't even check to see if this was going to work before they drove 70 mi away.... These guys are awesome!

@DrSimpleBeauty 3 года назад

This is fun to watch. I have a Fiat 500e and I have wondered how the vehicle would behave if the battery ran down completely.

@frh-freerangehuman 3 года назад

Happy fourth from Canada to you all

@LukeEdward 3 года назад

“Mr. Charge” Andrey, you’re “Mr. Charge”

@goddamnadam623 3 года назад

This was quite a unique video. I’m in the market for a truck and may have to consider this hybrid truck.

@robm3357 3 года назад

Very cool video guys. I really enjoyed it. You two work good together.. There is a loss between what you pushback into the batteries and what you get back out. But you did ok. I was wondering if you could use power from the F150 while driving. I figured the brains at Ford would have shut the inverter off once you touched the shifter. Must have been an oversight......lolololo

@P51 3 года назад

man, you guys are OBSESSED with rain.

@harlandurant7014 3 года назад

Pretty good off road trails if you keep heading to Red Feather. Kelly flats gate is open and can start at the river and make it to that road your on 74e.

@FreedomToRoam86 2 года назад

That hybrid 150 is a beast! Is the first time I’ve been interested in buying a Ford in years

@finnianfitzsimons623 2 года назад

Where did you break down it’s gorgeous

@kenpaulson6212 3 года назад

Fun video. Thanks

@junehhan 3 года назад

Makes me wonder whether this is the precursor to the future of roadside assistance services as its only time before people who run their cars out of gas transition to EV's and run their EV's out of juice while on road trips. Either way, those hybrid F150's are really awesome and I hope that we see them come with bigger batteries in the future.

@boss123400 3 года назад

That's an ugly car! My football coach used to call the team colors across town "panty blue" in that color...hahaha...

@dpragain 3 года назад

Cool video

@StoneysWorkshop 3 года назад

You have to chop off some of the buckets each time your empty and fill it ! ;)

@kevins718 3 года назад

Really impressive, now I want an inverter to every hybrid car.

@Hard_7_Iron 3 года назад

Wow! SPOT on computer… sweet. At least you know in the future, what it tells you…it’ll do. I liked this one guys. Thanks.

@Gldn1017 3 года назад

Happy 4th of July yal 😇

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 3 года назад

That was quite impressive! 70.4 miles mostly on highway. I'd bet when it was new it wouldn't have gone much further. The 84 mile range rating is under optimal conditions. No radio, no air con, no hills, and in city driving with optimal regen. Not foot down highway miles! This car was not designed for the highway and electric do drastically better in town.

@Tim-Tiller 3 года назад

You also have to consider the battery age on theirs is 7 years, so there has been some degradation and loss of range. Mine is 5 years old and gets 90+ miles in mixed driving. I charge usually every 3 days at home. If they had the DCFC option you can charge it from 0-80% in 20 minutes and 100% in about 35 minutes.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 3 года назад

@@Tim-Tiller that's very much my point. I don't think it has much or any degradation. In the fall, with the air con turned off, I don't think they'll have any problem getting 84 miles of range around town.

@Tim-Tiller 3 года назад

@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 well they only used a little over 14kWh to go from. 100 to 0, the battery when new on the 14 Spark EV was a 21kWh with 19kWh useable, so there has been some degradation. My 16 came with a 19kWh battery with 18.4kWh useable when new. But it has a different battery design than the 14.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 3 года назад

@@Tim-Tiller yes but the math doesn't add up any way you cut it. (70.4 miles ÷ 14 kwh) x 19 kwh = 95.5 miles. Not 84 miles. That car would never go 95.5 miles at highway speed. It's possible the system is just not giving accurate measurements.

@Tim-Tiller 3 года назад

@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 To calculate you need to go by the miles per kWh, which is a fluid number based on driving factors. their miles per kWh was 4.8. Which for a 19kWh battery would equal to 91.2 miles. Since they used 14.8kWh at 4.8 miles per kWh it calculates to 71.04 miles of range, since they went 70.4 miles I would say it is pretty accurate. BTW, their trip was not all highway miles.

@Estoooopid 3 года назад

Great work fellas. Will the ford maverick be able to be used as a generator?

@mannyjr8979 3 года назад

Awesome video

@roypase8488 3 года назад

Ask Andre for info...When u made the vid after charging the electric motorcycle he mentioned powering a travel trailer with truck. Has that happened yet? TY! Awesome Channel...

@TFLtruck 3 года назад

We did not power a camping trailer while towing yet.

@BillMcDaniel74 3 года назад

Have a 2016 Red check spark for my daily driver, it is a fun little driver.

@thomasbishop9098 2 года назад

Be careful on 287, lol, I got a ticket out there! Ok, ok, it was 1996. Lol. Good test guys.

@3aces209 3 года назад

Idk if you can or not but can you do a deep dive into the hybrid engine of your truck Andre. Im looking to get the ford mavrick and want to kno how well for did the hybrid on the f150. Plz and thank you.

@blendpinexus1416 Год назад

ok, i can really see this being a service one could call.

@stoveguy2133 3 года назад

I have aaa premium towing. 200 mi tow. Really helps my mileage.

@1leggeddog 3 года назад

The electric car did 70 miles. The truck did around 19 mpg empty. It charged the little car at around 238v (would have taken 5h+ for full charge) It kept charging during the trip back but got 13.9 mpg The little car got around 30-40% charge from the truck.

@ohioguy4326 3 года назад

Hopefully TFL makes your Truck payment with as much content as you have provided the channel with it.

@darkpepsi 3 года назад

Blueberry? Has Tommy watched Psych that was on USA Network? Just need a pineapple prop. 😆

@fredkemp1444 3 года назад

Andre nice new truck you have there.

@_krimzen_ 3 года назад

I love these fun experiments!

@christopherscola9641 3 года назад

That was fun. thanks.

@dmegahan 3 года назад

You are proving that once this is in super duty trucks , they will be tow/recovery rigs for ev cars. Especially since every newer ev has the ability to charge much faster.

@jghall00 3 года назад

Every new EV has range indicator and charger locations in the nav. Really no reason to run out of power, short of a broken charger.

@trrmbath97 2 года назад

Gotta get one of these F-150s during a power outage my house can be plugged into it.

@febrianadji5758 3 года назад

Come to think about that Is there will be any future BEV with a gas generator like the i3 REx? Or a PHEV truck?

@tylerbutikofer7047 2 года назад

You should try this again with your new Mini Cooper SE and see how much power the F150 can provide.

@WW-wf8tu 3 года назад

Andres ET (electric tow)service. LOL Cool test. Like the time stamps. Are you going to do this test with the Tesla? How many potatoes will it take to make the Chevy go again?