Watch The 2021 Ford F-150 Hybrid Take On The V8 Chevy Silverado On The World's Toughest Towing Test! 

It’s because of the elevation. If they were at sea level it wouldn’t look at good.

@@russelwilson523 it would do even better at sea level.

Have to like a turbocharger at altitude, and the nice cold winter temperatures help.

They will also not fail to impress on how fast they wear out

Any update on your buddies EcoBoost truck? You have the only video on RU-vid (that’s worth a damn) showcasing their reliability. You were actually the key factor in me picking a 2016 3.5L over the other options.

@Darkjedi351 yes and Far More naturally-aspirated V8s on the road. Far more with way more mileage than that. And you didn't even have to put premium fuel in most of them to get there.

@@ashes2ashes863 The Hemi V8's have lifter and cam issue and Chevy also has some issues especially since those brands want to add that cylinder deactivation crap. You will find failed ecoboosts especially when there are more so many on the road in the top selling trucks but I also see a lot still on the road.

10 gears do help in that equation as well.

@@hellkitty1014 both trucks had 10 gears...

@@D3thM3tal that is true, but they're tuned very differently. But there is no doubting the extra 200lb-ft of torque from the Ford certainly helped. That Powerboost is a beast.

@Memphis Brewer hmmm...from?

It is amazing that the 3.5 at 2600 rpm is putting out as much HP as the 5.3 is making at 4600 rpm. Turbos do wonders at altitude!!

Nlahhhhsgvcu!!!! Hawffhjs jhi. Hhhfdsegg.. 59-60.. daeyviud piyde... 61 for a long time if ford can calibrate the transmission for a winner, up and atom.. Hope this helps. Lol

Ah, breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck You gotta copy on me, Pig Pen, c'mon?

@@johnnyringo4463 😂

@@johnnyringo4463 bahaha 🤣 you nailed it

Im still not a Ford guy ...for 70k. I could almost get two chevys with V8"s that will outlast forced induction engines every time ..

@@tomwright6151 I wouldn't buy either. Chevy, RAM, and Ford reliability is 🤮

@@tomwright6151 I was thinking to myself 80k. 80k?! The features they added are just more items that can break. I don't even want to know what happens in the event of the electric motor failure or how much to replace that truck's battery.

@@tomwright6151 chevy v8s are good as long as theres no 4 cylinder activation bs.

@@mexdrago3009 I had a 2010 Camaro and turned off the active fuel management..because it actually didint help with fuel mileage but did create confusion with the transmission by changing torque and shift points and it constantly searched for the rite gear ..it barely got 22 mpg with a custom tune ...

@T-boe the first exactly!

I completely agree with this comment, and is why I watch these videos less and less now days. Yes we know you use GenY hitches. Yes we know about the trailer. Now show us more of the actual run.

Why do you want to watch the same thing for 8 minutes? They both go up at approx 60 mph the entire run.

@@adamduncan9168 because I am a car guy, I enjoy watching how the truck performs going up the hill instead of someone Just telling me how it did without me witnessing it. If you enjoy a 15 minute ad video then that’s cool with me, however I am here for the trucks and not trailer brands, or hitches or tuning .

@@bamorris22 ahhh man the good old days, remember how they used to show us the downhill part with all brake applications, then Andre would measure the brake temperatures at the bottom of the hill with that infrared thing. Then they would turn around a go up the hill and we would watch those engines scream pulling the trailers going up the hill. These days we see none of that, the whole video mostly consists of GenY, Transwest/cimarron, and 5 star tuning. Actually I would rather they make the video 40 minutes long as long as they can include the full run and their ads.

I agree! Editing is weird and all out of order, doesn’t make sense. I suggested they look into continuity editing and they told me to not say anything if I didn’t have anything nice to say, they got all butthurt, lol. I realized I have been watching less and less tfl videos lately, it’s just so much fluff nowadays. Unsubbed mainly, I just check in occasionally. Oh well, not a big deal, plenty of other good truck channels like Truck King and Pickup Truck Plus Suv Talk.

I was surprised by that 9000 pounds with 5.3. Been shopping 6.2 only for 8000lbs

@@dcasandman Get the 6.2. You won't regret it!

@@dcasandman I don't remember what rear end gearing they offer in the half tons and 10 spd but if they have 3.42 ratio it would probably tow better and get a slight numbers boost. On the forums some people are saying that other than WOT or pulling off the line the 5.3 with 10 spd is a great combo vs shelling out the extra for the 6.2. Compared to the 5.3 and older transmissions they're saying it's a significant difference with the 10 spd.

@@dcasandman that 5.3 is what I have my eye on now for half the price ..the 6.2 really likes premium gas ...Im not gonna tow 9000 lbs but maybe 4 times a year ..lol but the Ford has too much extra stuff running up the price to get the max towing package...and then theres the dealerships and Ford is pretty crappy in the service department..

Unloaded, my F-150 4x4 EcoBoost doesn't even downshift at all when climbing hills (I have the 6 speed not the new 10 speed). It just quietly builds boost and stays at 1900 to 2000 RPM at 70MPH I've been driving from Phoenix to Payson for 30 years and this is the only vehicle I've driven to never need to downshift. Unless I try to speed up or something. But if I at the cruise it just holds speed in high gear.

I want one!

Better be for $80,000

@@panda9144 wtf you talking about? You can get it on the XLT which is way cheaper

@@Not2BadFIFA he is a dumb Chevy boy

@@panda9144 Fully loaded XLT at 58k OTD after all taxes and fees just 3 days ago :) anddd all black on black sport package.

Employee pricing in July 2021, like every year.

Fron the look on his face, Andre couldn’t understand it either!

But theres alotta luxury items I dont need that run up the price of the max tow package ..and people can only get 26mpg if they stay at 55 ..at 70 they get 21 average mpg.. Nothing is as it seems anymore..

@C T real owners are getting 20 mpg in hot conditions and 23 mpg when cold with the 2.7 .oh but thats on regular gas not premium..lol..

@C T yeah that typo was corrected I have sausage fingers ..over here..lol who buys a truck for fuel milage with a tow package ..lol..for 70 grand the ecobust aint tweeking my nuggs..but that chevy at half the price sure did

@C T every manufacturer tears their competitors vehicle apart, that is standard practice in the industry. Oh and FORD is not ahead in all areas compared to their competitors. The fact that you think this goes to show how blinded you are by the brand.

@C T So by informing you on standard industry practice, you somehow interpreted that as me being salty. Well thank you for confirming beyond a reasonable doubt that you lack any form of objectivity.

True, hooking up chains on most other trucks with this same hitch is much easier.

@@TFLtruck I do have the same problem with my 2018 tho. Great video!

Till the turbo shells and there is no power.

Yep. You love an eco boost until you own an eco boost.

Mike I own one and still love it. It’s 8 years old and has 121k on the odometer now.

@@kelvinhill9874 I was partially joking. Although my dad had an early 3.5 which would shutdown. Went through turbos and injectors. My bro in law had a couple 2.7s. One was good the other came off the dealer lot leaking oil from the pan. Like most things, just depends if you get a good one or a bad one.

@@shadowopsairman1583 I have a 2013 Ford F150 with 211k miles with factory turbos and I have never had any engine problems plus I have a had a tune in it for a long time.

Thanks

i have the panoramic roof ....is it noisy ? i havent noticed on mine .

@@northlander4370 oh no, I didn't mean it like that. I mean a panoramic roof emits more noise than a standard roof. Not anything really noticeable.

mine is quiet !

Just slightly asthmatic. But i liked the 5.3 that i drove

As it should.

And gets same mileage as a 6 cylinder hybrid 😆

Ford is bipolar when it comes to TFL.

A naturally aspirated V8 lasts longer. I'll take one over those ecoboosts any day.

There’s also a lot of hate spewed at the 2.7 I-4 GM turbo, too. That engine also did the IKE in impressive fashion - turbos are a wonderful thing.

@Snake Plissken - For the very reason you like the Coyote, I have always favored the much simpler GM LS/LT V-8 engines. But, if you’re towing in the mountains and insist on petrol, the turbos are the way to go. And of course, it you choose to go diesel, the new offerings are all turbos.

They aren't reliable. Only V8s will be reliable in an American pickup. Turbo and GDI = less reliable vehicle.

@@sking2173 Until the wear the engine out.

Me too

(what about a 5.0 with a light turbo on it?)

@@Rocksaplenty well you would have to do the install yourself .

Why is that even in their? Other than sponsorship

Absolutely no reason for that thing (aka "dead cat") to be on in a still-air environment, especially when a comparison is made in another vehicle with it off.

Yoooo!!! Bam, you guys are Vulcan idiots 🤣🤣

Should have got the 3.0L powerstroke. Can't beat diesel for towing.

@@henryford2736 So far, it appears the 3.5 EcoBoost still has greater towing capacity than the PowerStroke. Plus, I couldn't afford new, so mine is a 2016, before the PS.

@@BurntTransGarage you have max tow package?

@@henryford2736 Yep

Kent gets so hyped for the Ike and who can blame him!! 😅

I own one of these and I can tell you that mine runs at 220 when towing and OCCASIONALLY bumped 230 in the mountains. But that's it. I agree it's kinda high and I don't like it, but it holds there pretty steady. And yes I've seen Andre's other video where it basically overheats.

@@desertfresh3740 how do you like it? I'm looking at a 21 f150 limited powerboost for a 8klb camper. Either that or a diesel.

like less mpg? Being they adhere to speed limits I dont think the time result would be too much different either (probably similar to the Ford here).

Yeah, maybe but chevy don’t do that, and it seems they not doing that soon

so it takes a modified chevy to beat a stock ford?

Just saying with a turbo the chevy would struggle less the ford has twins under the hood so its much less stressed

You can get a cheaper trim

@@jacobcurry922 you can but a cheaper trim means the up charge for the hybrid goes up. With the XLT it goes up by $4,500 since the base is 3.3L. You go with the Lariat, an $8k increase, and the hybrid is $3,300 more since the base engine is a 2.7L. Either way, an XLT hybrid is a mid $50ks truck. I just put a deposit on a $61k XLT and I felt good about that price after shopping around.

@@Pickuptrucktalk you pulled the trigger?? Congrats man! Hope you enjoy it 🍻

@@Matts000 put a deposit down to be clear. I need to have it in my possession by Dec 31. Right now, it looks "likely" that will happen. No guarantee. If it doesn't happen, then I'm off to buy something else.

@@Pickuptrucktalk well I hope it all lines up for ya.

I doubt there will be any difference, The hybrid only really does anything in town.

@@josephkordinak1591 That's a fair point. The hybrid is relatively pretty small and it has the 3.5L already.

What numbers are you talking about? Have you not seen enough Ike gauntlet videos to know well enough that they HAVE to stay within the speed limit? Maintaining 60 mph from start to finish whether towing or not will take roughly 8 minutes give or take. I guarantee the Powerboost is more than capable of yanking that trailer like a rag doll up the Ike at 90mph, doesn’t make it good idea though. Now the question is, unloaded in stop-n-go city traffic, which engine will perform better in the mpgs?

They have a 5.3 that they own so they use it. Also the 5.3 is far and away the most popular engine. Working at a large Chevrolet dealer we almost never sold 6.2's, I would say less than 5% of 1500 sales were that engine.

Yeah the 6.2 v8 isn't much a difference especially when it comes it power and im a chevy guy im gonna be honest the moment they came out with those powerstokers is when chevy lost and that was like in 02 I think im just being honest

The 6.2L produces 420 hp and 460 lb.ft of torque. It dwarfs the 355 hp and 383 lb.ft put out by the 5.3L.

Ide take a 6.2 over that ecoboost anyway and save 20k

The 6.2 is a beast. But in the trail boss trim it shows the same tow capacity as the 5.3 9500. A ltz or high country trim the 5.3 11000 and the 6.2 is 13000

I have driven both, The 6.2 is on par with the ecoboost. I chose the ecoboost because of the low end torque. You had to wring out the 6.2 to get any power out of it.

@@josephkordinak1591 what are you saying is on par. I'm hoping your talking the 3.5 and at that point if still wonder if it was a 6.2 if it was the ls family 6.2 not the newer LT family. In fact my father-in-law had to borrow my 08 truck with a 5.3 LS family to pull his music trailer when his 2018 3.5 ecoboost was in the shop (oil change and other maintenance items) he never picked the truck back up he went straight to the sales department and ask if they had a v8 5.0 and thats what he left with. The little turbo v6 are impressive ive driven a few including the smaller 2.7 one and they do build boost fast and id go as far as saying the 3.5 does compare to the newer LT family 5.3 and close to the older LS family 6.2 or 6.0. I'd also say that's why Ford is going to put the 6.8L in the 150 and mustangs as far as that goes.

To be fair the computers showed it being more economical up the hill, so in that respect it had both eco and boost.

No for a v6

Looks like those standard mirrors are fine for a narrower trailer like that 4 horse. But tow a full 8.5' and you'd definitely need tow mirrors.

@Memphis Brewer Yeah they said that near the end of the video after I asked

@@ALMX5DP Yes I saw it after I asked. I have been trying to get that answer because I have one on order

I bet if they manually selected the gears and downshifted it manually it would do better.

The issue is the battery fills up too fast and then it can’t keep regening!

I bet if it was a plug in hybrid with bigger batteries it would do better. And you would get some more miles on electric driving only.

Which ecoboost engine and what year? How many miles before the timing chain issue?

@@MrJamesLuz He will never say. I had the legendary 7.3l powerstroke and it was a total POS at 215k. But it was used and abused for those 215k. They are all good till they ain't.

I should have taken notes!

The normal mirrors do have turn signals on them

It’s on the side. It is a new mirror from the last generation F-150. 😀

@C T sorry I meant the 2021

Yup. 250k 08 5.3 still going strong

But why would you want to drive an underpowered truck for 200k?

@@aventador832 tf are you talking about

@@aventador832 ?ford fanboy? It does everything you need and gets good fuel economy for what it will do. I have never been underpowered in it.

@@badgerpa9 I don't disagree. I just need more power than a N/A engine can put out at my elevation. Would I rather have a Supercharged V8 over my ecoboost? Absolutely!

FORD is number 1 for a reason because people love the reliability

@@samhollan4570 lol thats what she said

You know you can get a cheaper package with that engine right?

I am a truck fan that loves all trucks. I tend to lean a little more towards Ford though. If I were buying a Chevrolet it would definitely have the 6.2L. The 5.3 is an excellent engine but the 6.2 is a monster. The 6.2 would of had no issues with the Ike.

@@843OutdoorsSC The 6.2 would have warranted a much heavier trailer, though.

@@843OutdoorsSC, my brother has a 2020 RST w/Z71 package and a 6.2L. It's a beast. It cruises dow the highway at like 1200 rpm. The G80 helps a lot with holding traction if you put your foot down. I'd love to see them put one through it's paces on here. His is rated to tow 13,000 pounds.

@@theinternets7516 for sure. I’d love to see it too. They don’t put that engine on this channel enough.

@@theinternets7516 G-80 does nothing until wheel spin differential between the tires forces the centrifugal weight to fly out and lock the spinning axle, which has a violent engagement that can break the differential. 6.2 is fun though, if you can find one.

With a higher curb weight, 15 seconds quicker, and with 200 more Lb/ft of torque, the Ford got better fuel mileage, even if only slightly better.

Towing a full load up a steep grade is no a good example for fuel economy, and the ford did do better.

Put a turbo on that lack luster 5.3 and see what happens. Or take the turbo off that ecoboost. Witch one would be lack luster then? I thought so.

@@wilsterone6689 but that’s not the way it is lol.this is reality,not your circumstantial situation. Even if you did put a turbo on a 5.3 you can only go up at 60mph🤷🏻‍♂️

@@wilsterone6689 Wow...great reply...🤣 I used to have a chevy Silverado with the 5.3. Even with all bolt ons and a dyno tune...it wouldn't keep up at all with my ram 1500 5.7. I wasn't trashing the 5.3. But compared to the f150 ecoboost hybrid...there's no comparison in performance and towing capability. A more fair comparison should have been the chevy 6.2L vs the f150 ecoboost hybrid. We can all say what ifs...but a turbo on this...or whatever. But it makes you seem more desperate to defend the truck that lost in this comparison. For a number of years...chevy held the title for hp and torque. Then dodge/ram had it for a while when the 5.7 hemi came out. Now...Ford took the title from both with their ecoboost engines. Its ok. Not a big deal. Chevy and ram are both planning on boosting v6s in their next gen trucks. Im sure they will catch up and perhaps even surpass ford. This is how it works. But let's keep the..."well slap a turbo on the 5.3"...in ur to do list...😉

@@wilsterone6689 lmao you gotta modify the Chevy to keep up with a stock Ford?

@@mromero911 It depends on what you mean by keeping up. Fastest is not how I measure a truck.

It costs a lot of money to make these videos; commercials are how they pay for it.

@@stephenj4937 Thank you captain obvious, but what happens when people stop watching their vids?

Can't recall if he ever did an Ike run with it, but it has been sold.

I think they did one Ike run with it actually. And ya he sold it to buy frank the hummer

5.0, 7.3 and a new 6.8. So ya thanks Ford

@@vincesanchez4661 give it 2 years

Ford won't invest in new push rod V8 technology for it to be around for only 2 or 3 years.

@@vincesanchez4661 and again thanks ford

It’s 2020...time to wake up.