EV Towing From Colorado To California On A Time Crunch! Over 1,000 Miles Straight Through w/ Rivian 

nice to see Kyle and Alyssa back together

As for Bolts charging at 350kW stations. My wife just did a road trip with the Bolt. At a EA station she met a Chevy dealer team delivering a Bolt to customers and they told her to always charge at the fastest charger because it charges faster. Luckily she knows better (because of me showing her how things work) and actually educated them. They were really nice about it but THERE IS THE PROBLEM. Dealers still have NO clue what they are talking about!

Hello Kyle and Alyssa, I watch most of your videos on your various channels, but the Motoring Channel ones are my favorite. Part real world EV driving experience, part travel log, as you share your experiences in an entertaining way, I've learned quite a bit, as a new EV owner myself. When I bought my vehicle, the dealer handed me the fob and said good luck. I've learned all about the important charging curve, thermal management, and CCS charge station issues from you guys. I told you all this when we met at the Expo in Long Beach, but I feel compelled to give my thoughts again in this public forum. Keep up the great work, and thank you for continuing to shine a light on the quickly changing EV landscape. Looking forward to part 2 of this adventure. I'd like to see you pick up the Coda as well. Also, whomever is selecting the music for these videos is doing a great job as well.

Thanks for the ride Kyle and Alyssa.

Missed the Road Trip videos! This is my personal favorite way to see how the infrastructure is doing. Please keep them coming!

I really like your honesty in your videos. It really is getting more expensive to charge EVs, much more so if you value time into the equation.

When you said you “loaded the Nissan Leaf on the back of the R1T” I honestly expected to see a Leaf in the back of the Rivian Pickup bed. Now, that would be one EPIC video.

I know Kyle is still young, but rest is crucial when driving long distance. Please be careful.

When towing a 3k pound trailer, our Tacoma gets half the range compared to when it’s not towing. Those Rivian Adventure Network chargers in Grand Junction are now operational.

Love your videos Kyle & Alyssa! You’re not allowed to ever stop these road trips! Haha 😛

Did the first few legs of this trip to SLC in my Lightning, that Green River station is so clutch. The 350 kW stations were down last time I drove through. Really hope EA gets it's act together on that station.

I wish you guys would do a trip summary at the end of these videos

Been watching every video since I have found your channel. Wish we had such charging infrastructure in India 🇮🇳. Keep uploading such towing/long trip videos LOVE FROM INDIA 🇮🇳

We rented a Tesla for a week and man, the supercharging network is phenomenal. EA is the reason I’m only considering a Tesla.

Your absolutely correct about dealerships not having a clue about their products. I accompanied a friend to pick up a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV. Asked the salesman which charging systems were recommended? CHAdeMO, EV Go, electrify america? His response, what’s a CHAdeMO? How bout the rec media? For what? The cameras. What cameras. It has a backup camera. No live footage. Front, side, ect. What would you want that for? Ok how many KWh does the Bolt have? I don’t know. He couldn’t answer one single question about the car. Bragged that he sold 22 this month

Hey Kyle, hey Alyssa, nice ride (the truck) and nice road trip. Maybe there are just a lot of apartment dwellers in LA and they don't have destination charge EVSEs outside their building? Yes, they tend to be a night crowd, out cruisin' so they charge up and hit the pubs or malls or burger joints. Cheers anyway.

The whole ICEing thing just confounds me. How/why are people that petty?

Excellent video, showing the true limitation of electrical vehicles and the charging infrastructure, especially when towing. For most people making the same drive it would be a truly stressful, long and miserable experience. If any one of those charging facilities in remote areas had been shut down, you’d be stuck in the middle of nowhere.

13:59 wow, i love the lights, door handles, interior 👍

I was at the Baker EA station last week and was blown away by the the further expansion of the Tesla Supercharger facility. Honestly, at what point does EA become embarrassed by their pathetic facilities that sit next to acres of Tesla chargers? Baker is their flagship; it ought to be their near-universal standard install for ALL freeway-oriented charging stations in the SW United States. Instead, the "standard" appears to be hellholes like Quartzsite.

When they arrived at the station in CA with all chargers in use at 11pm...I was like welcome to my world lol

36c per kwh is just like Diesel or gas. Since market based retail electricity is only 8-10c per kwh, hopefully the government is getting out of its market manipulation, so that the charging network companies can provide a reasonable 15-20c rate to massively beat Diesel and gas. Without it, EV adaptation will be massively slowed. That would be bad for society and car enthusiasts who love the power of EVs. Great show again: )

Love Kathy out of spec Mom. She's lovely and I'm glad she loves her lovely Tesla Model Y! Wanna see more of her experiences!!!

In Vermont we have a bunch of locations with a single charger (usually Flo or EVGO). I showed up to one at 4% after passing a few that had long lines and it had an Ioniq5 plugged in at 97% and 15kW with nobody in sight. I waited 10 minutes, but nobody showed up. Now at 98%, I decided to be that guy. 10 minutes later, he came back and was pissed. "Charging etiquette" was thrown out there, and I politely reminded him that he wasn't the only EV out there, and that there were L2 chargers in the next spot over if he wanted to finish. Am I the a-hole?? Awesome video BTW, looked like a fun road trip!

Kyle - Your voice was SO calm and natural on this video - THANK YOU! Your voice is unnaturally squeeky during your car presentation videos that I can not bear it for long before having to slow down the video to at least 75% or slower. You should do all future videos using this calm demeanor.

Loved the cool music in this video. Great upload 😊

Loved the road trip video!

Nice Looking Leaf!

Thank you for sharing this fundraiser! You are the best! We welcome all brands of EV’s to join us for the run! Come out and donate to this incredible charity!

It was fun to see the moon in the windshield going over the Rockies.

Commendable full-on intensity through to destination.

This one has been particularly interesting to me, because while towing your Rivian slightly similar to our range in the Mini Cooper SE (we recently road tripped to Vegas in our Mini Cooper SE and had to stop at Barstow, and Baker. ) :)

i love it when Alyssa is in videos, shes so fun

Let's try it again with the Silverado EV Work Truck. Maybe the results will be a little better!!

Edwards I remember being somewhat constrained, but I remember seeing someone towing a trailer with a Model 3 last September (college was starting). I was able on an eastbound trip to use a fast charger that had a better location relative to I-70 at Grand Junction to gain enough juice to go from Green River to parachute. Green River I saw the derated EA stall last week. I also ran into the construction last weekend on I-15 in Arizona and twice in the Las Vegas area (one downtown, the other passing the Strip). Las Vegas to Baker you would have the elevation gain shortly after the new inspection station, then a long down hill grade.

Nice choice of music too Kyle!

Love the videos, and have been following for quite some time. Keep up the grind! We appreciate it. Wasn't the biggest fan of the comment you made about how you shouldn't be buying an electric car unless you can charge at home. I am about the same age as you, and most people in our generation don't have homes...we rent. The privilege of homeownership is probably something most of us will never experience. I don't want to be excluded, just because I don't own a home. I get by just fine by responsibly charging at work or in other public places. California is moving to all new electric cars in just a few years, so what are we supposed to do then. I get the frustration you experienced when road tripping (I've encountered it too), but let's not gatekeep and exclude anybody. 👍🏼

An EV long distance trip is a trip of stops before you get to your stop on your trip..ID4 owner here.

Y'all should throw the dogs in the back and do another long trip like the one to Glacier, Yellowstone, etc. a few years ago!

BjǑRN of the Americas

I was thinking of the same race with EV Vans, but i cant think of any OEM vans in the US apart from e-Transit

Hey y’all

My guy hates people charging above 80%. So chargepoint decides to bring the pain for people being plugged in too long, now he doesn't like that they are dinging him for what he doesn't like 😂. Dude, make your mind up!

I was in Rockafeller Center and went into an Amazon store and I didn't even have to check out. I scanned a QCR code to get in...grabbed what I wanted and walked out. I have no idea it knew what I bought but it did.

A Chevy Bolt, plugged into a 350KW charger. You lead , Mary, and it matters. The Bolt is just such a superior product, that it can make full use of a 350Kw charger. At max 50KW. What a great car. ( Disclaimer, I am a life long GM car owner, hoping I will get a Cadillac EV in 10 years that is worthy of Rivian and Tesla) Mark Reuss needs to take over now. No more Mary Barra. No golden parachute.

F The Pump... That says it all....

Love your epic road videos here in the UK, try charging here in the UK for an expensive £0.75p per Kwh! Shame youtube slams so many silly adverts in. EA not getting any better then?😂

Ample would be awesome in this scenario.

The EA charger at 1:11:00 is my home charger in Vegas. Never had a problem so far in the 7 months I’ve had me Ioniq 5.

Great video!!!!! What was the Miles per kW, and what speed did you sit on on the flat!

27:40 i really ❤ Rivians' display (placements) 28:49 how long did u stop to charge?

They better add more restrooms at the stop in Baker. It was already sketch. 😂

I was wondering why the added segments of that EX30 video were filmed behind the wheel of a Rivian. It's fun to get a little look behind the scenes :)

1.52 haha ouch! Though I don't tow, 18k miles, and my original trip (still in-tact like yours), is showing 2.24 with 20" wheels + offroad tires, not too bad!

A end of trip summary of efficiency, cost, time wound be nice.

I bet that CCS/CHAdeMO at Vegas is a 350kW. They have the same setup in Fincastle, VA they power share the new gen 4s and have a dedicated 350kW hooked up to the CCS/CHAdeMO unit. And I have seen my ID.4 request more power than a charger was capable of, so I'm not so sure what you are saying about the requested speed screen on the chargers is true.

Damn it! I wish I had know you guys were going to be in Oceanside! My GSD and I would of brought you guys some avocados!

17:54 yoooo that was funny 😂😂😂😂

I enjoy Lehto’s Law! 1:05:27

I’ve been planning on a trip to Vegas from the Pacific Northwest. Original plan was to fly and stay in a hotel, but I now have more time, so I looked up the campground chain I have a membership in. They have one in Vegas! So… Let’s ask A Better Route Planner if it’s possible to tow my 24’ travel trailer to Vegas. First plan - 24 hours, going “inland” direct route - US-97 through central Oregon, then over to Reno and down to Vegas. “Wait, that’s not a valid plan, it has multiple 200+ mile stretches between charges!” Yeah, forgot to switch ABRP to my “towing” profile. Flip that aaaand… 56 hours. Interstate 5 down to almost Los Angeles then over to Vegas.

Edv compressor max out on the route a lot too. It will be fine just when it's warm out it gets noisy.

That Leaf should be more to the front of the trailer. It's better for stability on the road.

Would it make sense for CPo’s to use software to discourage low powered cars from charging at high output stations that they can’t take advantage of? Something like a surcharge if the station has other chargers available?

Surprised EA didn’t have any chargers giving out complimentary charging. When I had a Polestar was able to snag free sessions in both Austin & Fort Worth while in TX.

You said "I can't remember why to not tow with the "Eco Mode". Is that because you said that the rear motor is not engaged, and can not provide any regenerative braking? And that the front motor is providing all the power to drive the Rivian, and that will make the front motor run much warmer compared to when both motors are taking some of the load, even if you are using slightly more power on a road trip. I think that is the best reason to use the regular mode when towing.

Does Rivian use ABRP for route planning yet?

Love your stuff! ….at 1:30+ it’s longer than my workout sessions at 45 min. Can you do some condensed vids at like 15-20 min from vids like this one?

🤔...Kyle: there's no flash...Alyssa: I just woke up, as Kyle puts the camera smack dab in the face😅😂

Awesome to see what it is like to travel with Rivian. I have been scared to leave Las Vegas to go travel with my R1t but after watching your video I might venture out. I cannot wait until Tesla unlocks Tesla Superchargers for Rivian. Right now I go everywhere out of town with Model Y P.

Rivian’s regen reduction on the downhill is not inverter temps, it’s limited by the BMS. I just posted a video looking at this data in detail. Also discussion in rivian forums

Ain’t much to do at night in Murrieta, Menifee, and Temecula. Might as well go out and charge. The area doesn’t have enough public charging, Murrieta doesn’t even have Tesla Superchargers yet.

1:18:00😅 if this Rivian's a Rockin...

I have an Ioniq5 and a Model 3. I would much, much rather road trip the Ioniq5 because it is so much better to drive, but I usually end up taking the Model 3 because I can use either a Supercharger or anything on the CCS network. EA is the only CCS network that exists with more than 62kw charging in most of the areas that I drive. It sucks. Lots of good cars being let down by shitty charging networks. (And opening superchargers either via magic dock or cars supporting Tesla connector won’t automatically fix the charging issues)

I've charged at that baker location, it's awesome. Too bad EA doesn't have more sites like it

The music on your vid at about 25-26 minutes is great! Who are the musicians?

4:20 wow, must be nice..

There is a great Mexican restaurant inside thr Flying J in Beaver, Utah.

You may not have the most miles as a Rivian owner, but your truck probably has the most miles as a work truck

Looks like the leaf should be more forward in the trailer. Weight on that sized trailer should be forward biased. Watch your sway.

OMG!!!😵‍💫

1:34:49 Wait…what? There was an ID Buzz launch? Does that mean that they will be available for sale soon?

We're encountering 150 KW Electrify America chargers that deliver 171KW. Damfino, but that's what we're experiencing. 171KW is the super-fast magic number with our EV6. Super, Super fast charging.

You didn't go to the largest thermometer at the Baker EV Go. :( lol

You went to the hood in Oceanside... 😝

You guys would faint if you saw the cost of charging in the UK. £0.79 to£0.89 minimum per kWh

"78kWh, not too many"...also the entire size of my polestar 2 battery pack.

Kyle wanting to avoid Vegas like a zombie apocalypse film 😂

25:15 Where? I want Smart Checkout😊

Whats yoir plan when the charger dont work ?

Diesel towing is still king, the R1T and Lightning both just really take a hit in range to make ot happen.

So how many hours were spent charging vs driving?

@24:00 $50 YIKES!

Same race on bikes, I think there is the Harley Livewire, Zero, Energica, availabe in the US, again could be wrong.

How much easier/faster would the trip have been if the Rivian had a NACS port and could use Superchargers?

Would be great if you could calc the costs of an ICE pickup for the same trip.

Elon has a TBM . Maybe Tesla could put a super charger location half way up the a mountain. Would be so cool.

Yup; climbing those hills, over the PASSES, and I bet the truck is avoiding those wherever possible. Over an hr wait for charge for every 148 miles? How many miles a day could you do?! I’ll keep my Cummins Ram6 sp manual and 55 gallon tank for towing 12,000 lbs.

just like towing a gas or diesel truck it will use more fuel well in this case use more power from the battery plus the wind blowing against you or side to side speed and traffic road conditions everything so no matter how good it might be with out towing when towing something like another vehicle with a battery pack which are heavier then a regular ICE Internal Combustion Engine wow never knew when the day would come when ICE would be also known for the Internal Combustion Engine. but anyways .

They could do a race to Vegas, or LA in Pickups. Rivian, F150, Hummer, Silverado. Would probably be very relevant consumer advice.

@MacsCustomTieDowns you guys need to send kyle an 8 point tie down set up. This is giving me anxiety.