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EV Truck Myths Busted! 

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Based on the latest media, one would assume that EV trucks are a failed technology that deserve the range anxiety, with batteries bursting into flames daily and ev battery replacement costs bankrupting owners, leaving thousands stranded across America, starving in wastelands of electric purgatory. We dive in head-first and address the anti-hype and FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) surrounding the Tesla Cybertruck, the Ford F-150 Lightning, and the Rivian R1T - the only 3 ev trucks currently available in North America.
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0:00 - Intro
0:50 - charging from home and the cold
2:50 - getting stranded
4:50 - EV trucks can't tow and haul
6:32 - Batteries and fires
7:49 - Battery pack replacement and cost
10:07 - HVAC killing range
11:40 - EV trucks are doomed from plunging demand
13:24 - "You'll go bankrupt running an EV!"
15:30 - "You're going to puncture the batteries!"
17:15 - "EV Trucks are nothing more than Urban SUVs."
19:39 - Outro
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@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Getting past the misinformation on EV trucks is as important as overcoming all the hype. What are your thoughts on the future of EV trucks and the experiences you've had either driving one, being a passenger, or an experience someone had who you know? I always appreciate your comment!
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 4 месяца назад
Keep in mind that the prices you quoted are Canadian. Most people watching this are more familiar with US dollars. The costs of running the Truck (and EV cars) is even less in USD. I am in BC as well. I rarely go above tier 1 so the charging rates are even less for me. Our new house will be all electric so we will likely get bumped into tier 2. People should also know that the cost of gas in BC is really high especially in the lower mainland but the cost of electricity is one of the lowest in the industrialized world. So it really makes a lot of sense to go electric.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Excellent point! I actually screwed up when I ran the calculations for my rates to fill. I am actually $10 to fill currently and six bucks on the new overnight rate - but they're right when converted to $US 🙂. Me bad. So glad to hear from another EV owner in BC that the rates are in line and, in fact, cheaper. Thank you for your insight!
@pstoneking3418
@pstoneking3418 Месяц назад
This is probably one of the more honest video that I've watched talking about the lightning. Excellent job talking about the Pro's and cons of owning a lightning.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs Месяц назад
Sorry! I missed this comment in my feed. I really appreciate the positive feedback. Plan to bring you a lot more!
@777Outrigger
@777Outrigger 4 месяца назад
There's a video by Kim Java about an Uber driver that had his Model S battery fail at about 150,000 miles, out of warranty. It cost $9000 to replace the full battery, not $22,000. Battery costs are falling rapidly. CATL is saying that their battery prices should be half price by the end of this year.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you for bringing attention to this. Great point! Yes, battery costs, like solar costs before them, are coming down in price while battery density is on the rise. That means that very shortly, we'll have cheaper batteries with longer range and better charging speeds, all good for ev adoption.
@thelisakerry
@thelisakerry 4 месяца назад
Excellent and specific. Anyone considering purchasing one should watch this first. Thank You, Simon!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much, Lisa! It means a lot getting the support!
@daveyboomboom
@daveyboomboom 4 месяца назад
Very informative Simon. I think if I was going to take the plunge it would be the Lightning.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you very much, Don. That's the conclusion I came to as well. Wow, good to hear from you! Still on the Island playing?
@dark6c159
@dark6c159 4 месяца назад
something like 70% of non-crash-related car fires are KIA or hyundai.
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 4 месяца назад
There was a battery recall for Kona and Bolt. This skews the stats. The batteries with the issue were replaced.
@havetwo6280
@havetwo6280 4 месяца назад
First of all great channel, I'm gonna steel your FUD acronym when I am talking about my truck to ICE users. People come up and just ask questions about it and I try to dispel the the FUD. My first talking point is 0 to 60 in under 4 seconds and that caches the car guys attention. I had a level two home charger installed and programed the truck to charge on off peak hours when electricity is much cheaper. When plugged in the truck heats or cools the interior on the plug power, not the battery to help offset the range drop in cold or hot weather. Long range trips require some planning, but most charging apps show peak usage times and I plan my trips around peak usage hours. It has been my experience that EV users are friendly and cooperative at the charging stations and we pass the time talking to each other. I have the 98KWH battery and charging to 80% takes 25-30 minutes depending on now many EV's are plugged in at the same time. My seven hour road trip that I take twice a year turned into an 8 hour trip with my Lightning. I ate lunch during the second charging session. In my old ICE car I still would have stopped for lunch and lost the travel time.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Well said! Thank you for your insights into the Lightning! Yes, the only thing most EV users have to do for long trips is plan a little more and charge while having lunch. Now, I did find in my 645-km (400-mile) and return, one-day challenge video (here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j1SvD2nhSRg.html ), that after driving a total of 1319 km (820-mile), my overall time was about three hours longer than if in an ICE vehicle, but I think for super long trips, add an hour or two per day and that's about it. I get a lot of people coming up to me and 'telling' me things about my truck that are completely wrong, and none of them have ever owned an ev. I treat it as curiosity and try to always be engaging and helpful. Sometimes it even works :-)
@renchesandsords
@renchesandsords 4 месяца назад
Just a point regarding switching out one part of the battery. when switching out part of a battery, you would need to switch out at least the series string, since if you only switch out part of the string, you could introduce a lot of cell balancing issues and put more load on the bms and controller.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you for clarifying this! I didn't know that. According to Ford, each of the nine modules can be swapped out, but I'm not sure about the process, and I cant find any record of any actually being done.
@jevgeniardassov
@jevgeniardassov 4 месяца назад
It will not. I live in a flat. So no charger. Cheapest charging is 0.39 cent at a 50kw charger. I live up north so even Teslas consumption because of cold battery in the morning is 25 kw/100km, and I drive 2000 km a month. Soooo, math time 20x25x0.39=195.- euros. Right now I spend the same amount with my hybrid but I can also go for thousands of kilometres without needing a 30-50 minute charge. Also mine still costs 50% after 7 years, and today a one year old EV costs 50% in residual value. PS! What is the acceptable degradation of the battery in those 8 years/180 000 km, I guess, there isn’t… ✌️
@hieyeque1
@hieyeque1 12 дней назад
I've wanted to do a video like this, I'm sooooo tired of all the FUD out there that I have to endure. I have a 2023 Tesla Model 3 RWD. My battery pack is LFP, which is darn near impossible to catch on fire. Very well done video.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 11 дней назад
Thank you so much for not only watching but endorsing the content! It means a LOT! Yeah, the FUD has become almost unbearable. It's simply an alternate means of locomotion. Gas, diesel, natural gas, hydrogen, rail, steam...it's a means to an end. Electrification has been weaponized, polarized, and politicized to the point where facts and figures mean little to the wilfully ignorant. Cognitive dissonance is a thing - and some folk wear it like a badge. Hang in there. Good product and excellent, efficient, technology will eventually be impossible to discount or resist.
@Skotty64081
@Skotty64081 4 месяца назад
Nice video. I just got an F-150 Lightning a couple of months ago and it's awesome. There are a few shortcomings, which you mostly covered, but there are also advantages over gas, like the cheap home charging, all the on-board power, the smooth performance, and the funk which is more exciting and useful on a truck than on a car. I like that Ford made the battery modular, although I do wonder how much they are charging per module, and what it would cost to replace a module. And I love that they are partnering with Tesla to use some of the Tesla charging network; that will be a huge win, as Tesla is building a better charging network for travel than anyone else. I'm looking forward to new details on that this year. Ford did a great job with this truck, and I think anyone open to the idea of EVs would find it to be a compelling truck option.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
The F-150 Lightning seems to be doing the best so far to electrify the truck market. Ford and Tesla joining forces for charging is like a power duo in the EV world.
@arielherman8521
@arielherman8521 18 дней назад
I just thought you should know. I found your videos when I began hunting for my lightening over a month ago. It was a hell of journey but I signed today for my pro extended range. Thievish price I might add (pats self on back). Anyways, thank you for sharing your fanboy energy on the subject and spreading good information. Just wanted to say thanks.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 17 дней назад
Wow! This is one of the best comments I've ever received! Thank you so much for the awesome and generous gift. Your support makes this channel happen!
@AlanBarnes1013
@AlanBarnes1013 4 месяца назад
Thanks for having a good conversation about EV trucks. I hear so much garbage from people who have predetermined ideas of electric vehicles. I know some of them will analyze what you said and make a big deal about one word and base their thoughts on it. That’s the people who are afraid of change, which is the biggest fear of people buying an EV.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much, Alan! It's important to have open discussions about EV trucks to dispel myths and misinformation. I really appreciate the feedback!
@pdxmarine1430
@pdxmarine1430 4 месяца назад
There's only 2 things that have stopped me thus far from getting an EV truck, the price, and the fact that they're all so big! I would love something the size of a 90s era S10 or Ranger, but nothing like that exists
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much for the comment! My XLT Lightning was cheaper than a gas XLT with the same options, but that was because of the incentives. Although ICE trucks in 2024 have reached insane prices, until there are more choices with other EV trucks coming on line, these also are too pricey in my view. However, Ford is up to something, as well as Hyundai. I think you'll get your wish in the next year or two. I'm hopeful myself to get my hands on some more affordable options on the channel.
@pdxmarine1430
@pdxmarine1430 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs The Toyota EPU looks promising...if they actually do something with it. I'm hoping that with the skateboard style platforms that can be used for a side array of vehicles mounted on them, it won't be too long until someone finally makes a nice single or extended cab compact truck...because as it is even the current "compact" trucks like the Maverick and Santa Cruz are over 200"(and also not available as actual EVs)
@LarsDennert
@LarsDennert 4 месяца назад
I get about 1.6mi/kwh towing our aero dynamic travel trailer. Over 200 miles of towing range is plenty for my trips. Longer than that and I'll figure a hotel or condo because I've never wanted to tow far even with an ICE. Did it from LA to Moab with my 4Runner and it wasn't a joyous experience.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the informative comment! I'm the same. I tow often, but it's just a utility trailer for work. I've never had to worry about charging or range, but I totally get why some would worry. But as you rightly point out, for most people including you and I, 200 miles is more than enough. My thought is that rather than pay $100k for a diesel and then another $100k for a fifth wheel, if the urge ever comes over me, I'll rent both for a holiday and keep the cash :-).
@tarnantula
@tarnantula 4 месяца назад
You can tow a small travel trailer for about an hour, maybe 2, on thruway…. Wow
@KaiPonte
@KaiPonte 4 месяца назад
Going to bookmark this video. I am constantly seeing how HORRIBLE EV's are. One guy even stated that he weekly tows his 5000# trailer from Seattle on the west coast of Washington to a town near teh Idaho border. Of course, I wonder what he does the other days of the week. I love the idea of a F150 Lightning, but don't want a full size truck. I'm fine with my 25000 mile Ford Mach-e.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you for bookmarking the video! It's awesome to hear your thoughts on EVs. The F150 Lightning does offer a unique blend of power and efficiency. Your support means a lot!
@Dr.Gehrig
@Dr.Gehrig 4 месяца назад
Awesome video. Liked and subscribed.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the sub! Glad to have you along for the ride!
@OveToranger
@OveToranger 4 месяца назад
Okay, now you have 335 subscribers - +1 from when I started the video !
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much! Happy to have you along for the ride!
@darwinskeeper421
@darwinskeeper421 4 месяца назад
But you may be missing the point of why so many suburbanites buy a full sized pickup in the first place. It makes them feel tough. They may not do any more hauling or towing than I did with my PT Cruiser but it hits them in the feels the way they want to feel. The question is whether any EV pickup, even the Lightning which is an electric F150, will hit them in the feels the same way a gas or diesel pickup will. I'm guessing it won't.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you! Great input. I was surprised when the same Axios survey I quoted in the video asked what qualities truck owners found the most important. It wasn't the obvious towing, hauling, 4x4, storage, torque, etc. The two most common words that popped up were “powerful” and “rugged”, which is more about the personality they wish to convey rather than any attributes of the vehicle. So yeah, I think you're totally correct.
@steveinoz8188
@steveinoz8188 4 месяца назад
As well as the charging network needing improvements, there's a wide range of EVs available, but not many of them in your country.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the comment! Good point. The Hummer still is off limits, and recently the Rivian was postponed in Canada. However, about 80% of what you can get in the US is available here, but Europe has the widest choice in my view, especially in the offerings from China.
@scanadaze
@scanadaze 4 месяца назад
My gas vehicles. I use maybe once a week. Winter as well. Therefore. Their not using any gas. I don't use heater blocks. This winter as normal. Down to zero and below. Again. They sit. I use no gas or oil. My pickup. 2020 F150 XLT 3.5l Ecoboost. I just get the snow off the truck. Not the ice. The pickup warms up the cab fast. Very shocking. Leads me to a question. Say I own a pickup as yours. It just sits. Plugged into the house. How much is that costing me extra in electricity? More or less in a week's time as it would take my pickup to warm up for 15 minutes. I have a 3/4 tank of gas. Tow package. 36 gallons. I still have over 400 miles left on range. Depending. On a full tank. I get 595, too 700 miles on range. Just a question. How much does it cost to have your truck just parked for one week in winter on electricity? My gas one. Nothing.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
What a great question. Being that my truck never sits and is driven for work almost every day, that's a tough one for me to throw a guess at, but I'll try. When the battery is full and the conditions outside are temperate, I'm using close to nothing outside of what is referred to as trickle charging. This can even be done with a regular 110 outlet, so very little electricity is being used, I'm guessing at only a dollar or two a month at our hydro rates in our province. In the cold, that changes. But again, if the battery is full, it's only conditioning the pack, which requires a low amount. However, I imagine one would still be paying somewhere between $10~20 dollar Cdn. per month for the vehicle to do nothing in very cold conditions, if parked outside in the elements. That estimate is based on my overall monthly increase in electricity rates after my wife and I both went electric. In the middle of winter, our two vehicles increased our hydro costs by about $150 Cdn. per month - or $75 per vehicle. I drive my truck approximately 2,000km per month (1240 miles). That was costing me about $800 in gas with my previous truck. Again though, this is a tough assumption for me to make because to warm up my gas truck for 15 minutes over the same period would likely cost me more, but you only have to warm yours very infrequently. With my hydro being so much cheaper than gas, $6-10 dollars per 'fill' compared to my previous $100~105 per fill for my truck for equivalent mileage, the conditioning charge is such a small fraction, I've never given it much thought. We need a science guy to help us with this one - and I'm no mathematician! :-) - but it's such a relevant question. Let me dig into this one, and if I find a more accurate answer on the F-150 Lightning forums, I'll get back in touch with you. Thanks for joining in the discussion!
@scanadaze
@scanadaze 4 месяца назад
@truckedupevs It makes sense if you use a black warmer. Around the same cost. Summer the EV won't use it as you wouldn't use a block heater. You helped out a lot. Thanks for your time.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
You are very welcome! Thank you again for watching. @@scanadaze
@craigrosier523
@craigrosier523 4 месяца назад
One phrase. Thank you!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
You're very welcome!
@migmigjohnson9351
@migmigjohnson9351 4 месяца назад
I was never realized the depths of the FUD and envy surrounding EVs until after I owned one. Turned out they're either speaking out of ignorance or vested interest.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Yup. And the worst thing is it's the same tired arguments over and over again, and I get so exhausted having to go through the same response, over and over again, to the point where I simply don't. Just go down the comments list and you'll see what I mean, most of whom never watched the video to the end or listened to any of the responses to the FUD, and never will.
@migmigjohnson9351
@migmigjohnson9351 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevsOh yea I'm going over a few of them. I'm just trying go find out if comments along the lines of "A friend of my father's second cousin's neighbor had an EV spontaneously caught fire!" comes from people getting paid to FUD or are simply not old enough to drive and just want someone to talk to.
@patrickweaver1105
@patrickweaver1105 4 месяца назад
I don't need a special environment to operate a gas truck. Just a minimal level of civilization. Even if I do run out of fuel gasoline is easily transportable in the small quantities necessary to reach a pump. Try putting a thirty mile extension cord on your charger. You can have it towed on a rollback or bring a generator out to an electric vehicle built that another level of complexity. Battery replacement costs are real and are the reason EVs are a throw away technology. My car is 18 years old. Try finding a battery for an 18 year old EV. If you could keep one that long.
@bobbybishop5662
@bobbybishop5662 4 месяца назад
I would like to know the exact number of model y sold , Tesla combines sales with the Model 3 so how does any one know exactly how many Y models were sold.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
That's a great question. There's some pretty smart folks out there who look at vehicle registrations, shipping, export, and deliveries, and they can get a pretty accurate number. But one would think Tesla doesn't have anything to hide in their production output, right? :-).
@bobbybishop5662
@bobbybishop5662 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs You would think that would be shouting it from the mountain .
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Exactly. But I guess they think it is a way to cover up if sales in one drop lower than the other? Not that it works. People find out anyway @@bobbybishop5662
@jmrdrgz
@jmrdrgz Месяц назад
What about the amount of EMF that these vehicles produce? Have you checked into that? Serious question. One of the reasons I would stay away, even though the idea is pretty good behind these vehicles.
@dalie95327
@dalie95327 4 месяца назад
If you need a gas pump at your house then the field is level.
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 4 месяца назад
So about your battery fires, when they do light on fire you cant put them out like you can hydrocarbon fuel, they burn and burn and burn and they burn hot, the fire department has to submerge it in water for over a month to make sure it wont self ignite after it is extinguished. And it great that you can charge at home, till to many people are doing it and the grid comes down because they aren't building that infrastructure to handle it. As for ICE performance degrading over time, actually they get better as they break in and don't degrade till well after 300k if you do proper maintenance. Your eclectic truck however, Battery's will degrade gradually over time performing worse and worse over time. I am glad you love your Electric, I aint buying one until its diesel over electric like a train so I can tow with out range anxiety, lol.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
I find it is very interesting that much of the concerns you mention sound oddly similar to the FUD about gasoline and the lack of gas stations in the 1920s and 1930s. You are correct in that battery fires are more difficult to put out. However, 2 things: 1) As I said in the video, eight times more risk is in gas, and if you recognize that gas vehicles still represent over 90% of all vehicles on the road, that means hundreds of times more actual fires in gas vehicles. One should be more concerned about these burning down their house or threatening their life. Fire departments are already training to better address EVs, and no, it doesn't require the pack submerged for a month, a long-standing load of bunk. Here is a quote from my country's Firefighters Assoc.: “Fire fighting with these vehicles is a little different as we don’t get a lot of exposure to the situation. Our current practice is to constantly flood the vehicle with water; we also do have foam options. We don’t have the demand just as yet as they do in Europe to have specific firefighting tools such as foam tanks which they soak the vehicle in for up to 24 hours." The number of EV fires is so rare that many fire departments have never had to deal with them, and that causes more training issues, not the rising number of ev fires. 2) There is no grid shortage with EVs, nor will there be. As we did with gasoline as demand ramped up, we added infrastructure as needed. And if people understood how home battery storage is being adopted, solar power playing a role in so many houses, and the fact that our EV vehicles are actually a massive generator, this fear is also a lot of FUD that isn't grounded in reality. Thanks for the comment, and I respect you're not interested in buying one. In fact, what you suggest is actually an awesome idea, like trains, making a good hybrid option for the diesel market. I think that should be the choice of the buyer and not forced on anyone, especially when there isn't an EV equivalent in many categories to match the gas or diesel counterpart.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Hey, you might like this: www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/
@kenik2023
@kenik2023 4 месяца назад
​@@truckedupevs You're going to figure out in a few years that the tech ain't there yet. They're good for city, sure...rural? I'm going diesel. But...let's see that truck in 2035 ok? My 2000 has 300,000 miles on it and it's still going.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
So far, so good. Diesel makes a lot of sense for a lot of applications. Definitely not mine. Awesome that you're getting such reliability out of your 2000 and it's still kicking butt. Thanks for the comment. See you in 2035! @@kenik2023
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs I dont call FACTS fud.. Car fires in modern Gasoline powered vehicles are not that common, A gasoline car wont spontaneously combust in your garage just sitting there, where is that is a possibility with an electric being charged. Hell my neighbors house burned down because a charging cell phone spontaneously combusted. With gasoline vehicle an ignition source is required to ignite it, if fuel can manage to leak out some how which it will let you know about because you can smell a gasoline fuel leak which should tell a rational person to have the problem fixed before it becomes a disaster. With a Diesel vehicle threat of fire is even less as diesel fuel is far less volatile than gasoline and takes a tremendous amount of heat to ignite. Further more its actually the ICE vehicles being fudded by our Governments who insist that they are bad for the environment because "climate change" which Claims co2 to be the major contributing factor, But if you ask them if they believe CO2 is a pollutant they wont give you a straight answer because they know it not, co2 is plant food so if any thing my ICE vehicle is good for the environment because it helps plants breath and grow bigger faster and if you dont believe me go look up how much green houses supplement co2 to increase plant yield. "Fire departments are already training to better address EVs, and no, it doesn't require the pack submerged for a month, a long-standing load of bunk." I have a friend who is in fire and rescue, your claim is false, she is the one who told me about submerging these cars in water for a month because damaged battery's can self ignite at any time because of the energy they have stored in them. "2) There is no grid shortage with EVs, nor will there be. As we did with gasoline as demand ramped up, we added infrastructure as needed. And if people understood how home battery storage is being adopted, solar power playing a role in so many houses, and the fact that our EV vehicles are actually a massive generator, this fear is also a lot of FUD that isn't grounded in reality." The problem with this claim is, They have plans to upgrade infrastructure for the higher power demands, but it is unlikely any of them will be built with all the EnviroMENTAL people putting up road blocks of bureaucracy that slow and stop these projects, How long has site C dam been in construction? Which when finished will only supply 8% more power to the current grid. So like I said if every body in your area had an electric pick up it would bring down your grid. I dont support electric only vehicles, its just not feasible. Electric hybrid though I would own one in a heart beat, because your hybrid can double as a power generation unit in the event of a grid down and could supply emergency power any time any where. I cant wait till Edison motors has a retrofit kit available for my pick up truck.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 3 месяца назад
👍👍
@manitou_blacksmith
@manitou_blacksmith 4 месяца назад
Thanks for making this video! My lightning is a PHENOMENAL vehicle. It's sad that so many folks are so easily fooled by morons and clickbait. I've run an induction forge and power hammer off of mine. Also, it's amazing in the mountains and snow, especially after adding dedicated snow tires. What a fabulous design!!! 🍻
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
I really appreciate your comment, Thank you! I love my Lightning also, but I try to give both the pluses and minuses of any EV truck while dispelling as much of the garbage out there as I can. For most current truck owners, an EV truck does everything they need, and more unless a daily towing and hauling rig over greater distances. We live in the Kootenays. Today, we received 30 cm (12") of snow, Yesterday was the same. Where we live, closer to the treeline at a higher elevation, double that. We have a 100m (330ft.) drive with a 10% grade, and often we get snowed in so badly that it takes us hours to dig out. Being that my truck is a work truck, I often have no choice but to just plow through it. My Lightning cuts through snow conditions like it was on pavement, and I am so impressed with how it adjusts. However, I could certainly use better snow tires! It really is a a well designed truck.
@manitou_blacksmith
@manitou_blacksmith 4 месяца назад
@truckedupevs I have been very impressed with the design. I tell everyone about the modular batteries and easily removeable battery tray. I wish I could meet the engineering team and congratulate them, haha. For me, this is also mostly a work truck. I haven't really tried it without snow tires - I probably didn't really need them. But I feel confident hitting the mountain passes. Anyway, keep up the good work on the videos!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
With all the FUD about batteries, it was an important and positive choice by Ford. Thank you again, and enjoy the ride! @@manitou_blacksmith
@karlslicher8520
@karlslicher8520 4 месяца назад
Reclaiming the brake heat from these killer EV's might help solve the subzero range penalty.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
That would be good but one rarely uses the brakes. I haven't touched my brake pedal in days because I'm in one-pedal drive mode, and every time I let my foot off the accelerator, I'm making 'fuel'. The new Vapour Injection Heat Pump that Ford is putting in all 2024 Lightnings will get it much closer to the range loss percentages in ICE vehicles, but still needs to find 5-10% from somewhere. Thank you for your comment!
@derrickmartin9717
@derrickmartin9717 4 месяца назад
Not fair! You're using math and statistics!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
It's my secret weapon, along with being inspired by my smart subscribers :-). Just be thankful I left the abacus in the basement... Nice hearing from you, Derrick!
@theflyingcandleguyme6144
@theflyingcandleguyme6144 4 месяца назад
I am my own mechanic. It is all trade offs. You do not save money buy owning an EV; but your not losing any money either if you buy it from Tesla or someone other than China. Do not buy a Chinese made EV. They DO have serious quality control issues with EVERYTHING about their cars including the batteries.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the insight! I am saving money but only because I received a lot of EV incentives. The trope that these things are only for the rich have not looked at the current prices - and certainly haven't perused the 2024 ICE truck price line-up :-). They are all stupid expensive, but Ford did a good job on its entry. I expect GM and Ram will equally put out good product.
@izodmartin
@izodmartin 4 месяца назад
OK, gas engines are more likely to catch fire. but gas engines do not burn for 3 days!
@HundTheHound
@HundTheHound 4 месяца назад
ur not trying hard enough then!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
EV fires are usually out within hours, not days. Also, unlike gasoline they van be put out with water whereas fuel requires special foam.
@CSGATI
@CSGATI 4 месяца назад
They want us to use less electricity you are going to use a lot with a 50 amp 220 breaker. More than anything else in the house.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
First of all, I'm not sure who 'they' is - so I'll improvise... I can either light hydrocarbons on fire or move via electrons. 'They', I believe want us to cut down on lighting hydrocarbons on fire. And being that where I live all the electrons produced come from water, solar, and wind, and we have an abundant amount of the buzzy stuff, that seems pretty stinking smart. On top of that, 'they' want us to be more efficient. A carbon-burning engine is roughly 30% efficient, with most of the energy being lost as heat and exhaust, whereas electric motors operate at over 90% efficiency, which means they use almost all of the input power in output locomotion. In conclusion, 'they' want me to be smarter with my overall energy use, and thus I own an EV because the last thing I want is 'them' showing up and finding something else to tell me how to do. I hope this clarifies things.
@jamesbarca7229
@jamesbarca7229 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs Where you live, huh? Well, where most of the rest of us live the "buzzy stuff" comes from hydrocarbons. But you just keep on living in your own little subsidized world, while the rest of us live in this place called reality. And you talk about efficiency but ignore all of the power lost in transmitting that electricity long distances, and all of the power lost to heat and other factors while recharging, self-heating the batteries in cold weather, etc. And while you pretend to be an environmentalist, keep on ignoring all of the birds and bats butchered by the wind turbines you advocate for. And what exactly are you going to do with all of the abandoned wind turbines when they reach the end of their useful lives? Did you even consider the amount of pollution produced in manufacturing them, or your EVs for that matter? Of course not, because you're just a propagandist who cherry picks the facts that fit his narrative while ignoring the rest. I'm so glad the EV market is in the process of collapsing. It can't happen a day too soon.
@johnn17golf
@johnn17golf 4 месяца назад
@@jamesbarca7229 By collapsing, I assume you are referring to the 50% increase in sales! You do have a good point re the transportation part, of course, s we know the oil drilled from underground just magically appears at the pumps thanks to those cherries you seem so fond of!
@donlittlejones3925
@donlittlejones3925 4 месяца назад
Hi Simon. Excellent information. You mentioned in a previous video that you have limited internet in your area. If that is the case, how is the Lightning doing on updates?✌.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Hey Don. Excellent question. We went on Starlink and we thought that would help, but we've since dumped it due to too much tree interference on the side of the mountain and nowhere near the promised reliability (cut in and out like crazy even when no obstructions). It turns out that there was Ford voluntary recall only weeks ago on a little battery charge sensor that was misreading charge levels and shutting down any OTAs due to it sensing a low 12-volt battery. Ford called me in and they fixed it asap, but my OTA is now up-to-date (they likely did it?). As far as zero internet, we just got lucky with a local provider bouncing a signal off a local peak that one tree with a dish on our slope can get a line-of-sight on, but much slower than the Starlink rate. We're just happy to not have to go into the village for internet! We'll see what happens the next time an OTA comes along though. Fingers crossed. Thanks for joining in the conversation, Don!
@kamakazecam
@kamakazecam 4 месяца назад
People don’t like Evs because they take to long to charge….. well how do you think the world did the first gas powered vehicles were invented in 1885
@kamakazecam
@kamakazecam 4 месяца назад
Vehicles will 100% never blow up. This isn’t the movies. Fuel burns, not explode
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 3 месяца назад
Years ago, I was parked about 3 spots away from a car at a mall. I get out. Lock up. Start walking. I get by that car. I see smoke. I'm standing 3-4 feet away. I see flames. Ok. I go back to my car and move it. Burned real good. I watched it burn. A lot of people watched it burn. I had a ton of time to take care of my car and come back and see that car burn. Did a number on both cars around it. But there was no boom.
@tedsmart5539
@tedsmart5539 4 месяца назад
Wow - just skiff over the fact that battery fires burn at super hot temps with chemicals that cannot be extinguished with most conventional techs.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Actually, thanks! That's a great FUD item I should have included. I'll post it here instead. Let's start with Motortrend: www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/ And then there's this from the firefighters assoc in Canada: “Fire fighting with these vehicles is a little different as we don’t get a lot of exposure to the situation due to ev fires being so infrequent. Our current practice is to constantly flood the vehicle with water; we also do have foam options but we reserve that for gas fires as water is ineffective. We don’t have the demand just as yet as they do in Europe to have specific firefighting tools such as foam tanks which they soak the vehicle in for up to 24 hours." And then there's this Statista numbers from 2021, the most recent full data available: Gas vehicle fires in the US: 174,000. Dedicated BEV fires: 18 Thanks for the heads up!
@mfallen6894
@mfallen6894 4 месяца назад
@@tarnantula This channel feels astro-turfed.
@matthewloxton2570
@matthewloxton2570 4 месяца назад
They don't flow like gasoline or diesel, and both have WAY higher energy density. So all things being equal, the hotter but contained and smaller battery fire is better
@Kededian
@Kededian 4 месяца назад
He skiffs over multiple facts. Some people cant be helped. They are in denial.
@peteryoung8462
@peteryoung8462 4 месяца назад
@@Kededian If there weren't in denial, nobody would buy one.
@blumobean
@blumobean 4 месяца назад
Let me explain what he is saying. If you need a truck to be used as a truck, then an EV is not for you. I see plenty of pristine lifted 4 wheel drive trucks that have never been off the asphalt. An EV would be fine in that case. Look at cost, all the cost, and it becomes clear.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
I also use it as a truck, but in a short-haul setting. Even those who use trucks for actual light duty applications can totally enjoy one of these. But yes, you nailed it. Thanks!
@samsmithmotovlogs
@samsmithmotovlogs 4 месяца назад
If you want to own one please do. I will not let you make me buy one. I'll stick with my gas and diesel vehicles thank you.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
That's a great response. I hope many make the same choice, and I am not 'making' or 'pitching' buying one to anyone. In fact, if you watch many of my other videos, you'll see that I've often been quite critical of EV trucks (like this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aWYQhpXgIAI.html). What I think is important, however, is that all of us make informed decisions and filter out the 'fanboy' hype and the 'ev hater' FUD. What diesel do you currently drive?
@samsmithmotovlogs
@samsmithmotovlogs 4 месяца назад
I have a Ford F250 with the 6.7 liter engine.@@truckedupevs
@rxibot
@rxibot 3 месяца назад
Just like with your cell phone, you don't leave the house with that empty do you? No you need it to last throughout the day! Just charge yer s*** quit being a p**** about things :-)
@Zero_Degrees_DeLisle
@Zero_Degrees_DeLisle 4 месяца назад
Nice and concise my man ... great perspective and information! It really is all about the usage case and/or application for if it makes sense for someone to get an EV truck or even and EV.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much for the kind words! It's great to know that he video's perspective resonated with you.
@santiagoh.1012
@santiagoh.1012 4 месяца назад
Your information and video quality is outstanding!!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Wow! I really needed that boost (read some of the comments below and you'll see what I mean). Comments like this mean so much to a fledgling channel like mine. Thank you!
@tarnantula
@tarnantula 4 месяца назад
Give me my dinosaur bones!!
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Haha!. Alright, man. Whatever works for each person. That's what's important.
@williamfreeman6935
@williamfreeman6935 4 месяца назад
Woke-ism is a helluva drug.
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 3 месяца назад
Especially in your face woke-ism. He convinced no one that wasn't already convinced.
@dstylez1171
@dstylez1171 4 месяца назад
Man finally someone with the balls to tell it like it is....I hope the doubters are listening...had my ev for 1 year and can't believe how much better a vehicle it is...saved 2500 on gas expense...don't wait
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the really nice comment, Dennis! Most of the complainers and FUD-chuckers have never spent a minute with an EV. I totally get it. There's just so much FUD clickbait out there and who has the time to second-guess so much media? There's pros and cons to all vehicle types - I do my fair share of pointing out issues with ECVs as well - but discounting EVs outright is a quicker way to part company with one's bank account, IMO.
@dmaxx4425
@dmaxx4425 4 месяца назад
My F250 doesn't have a problem from -40 to 100 no problem no block heater just need to pour in some anti jell in the tank , But I did make big money dragging EV off the road because of a traffic jam IN -25 degrees , the car has to keep the battery warm to function properly ,you're trying to keep warm and you are at dead stop discharging at a rapid pace.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Actually, not correct - at all. An EV parked in a traffic jam will statistically outlast most internal combustion vehicles that have to sit running idle, even in severe cold. Your statement is feeding the FUD 100% Just like with gas or diesel, if the EV 'tank' was close to empty to begin with, the vehicle will of course run out sooner. like the one you 'dragged' for $. EVs in every test, cold and hot weather, equalled or exceeded ICE vehicles when idling, without the carbon monoxide risk. Here's one article out of dozens: www.recurrentauto.com/research/cold-weather-idling-in-an-ev Aren't facts great?
@dmaxx4425
@dmaxx4425 4 месяца назад
OK have fun @@truckedupevs
@scott9352
@scott9352 4 месяца назад
Total bs they drain in traffic.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
And elephants are purple, glow in the dark - and are bulletproof. See, I can make unsubstantiated claims too. Everything drains in traffic if it's running. The misinformation is that evs drain faster than ICE, which has been proven false, as I state above, and provide sources. Or are you referring to GAS? @@scott9352
@scott9352
@scott9352 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs in my area a major traffic jam happened three co workers had teslas and 3 had to be towed.
@asajelfs8170
@asajelfs8170 4 месяца назад
The first thing you can do when you get a EV is breath the air around it when its running.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Oh, but I miss the carcinogen intake, eyes watering, and the oxygen depriving light-headedness... ;-)
@angusnz7910
@angusnz7910 4 месяца назад
Pity you can’t say the same for the kids that worked for days on end in toxic waste to dig up the bits for your battery
@asajelfs8170
@asajelfs8170 4 месяца назад
@@angusnz7910 You are being disingenuous.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Actually, that is yet another pile of steaming FUD that is getting so tired and worn out. I should have included it. Most EV batteries today use none of the materials, such as cobalt, you are referring to. In fact, LFP batteries (lithium, iron, phosphate) are now the most common, using none of the controversial materials the FUD-chuckers fling about. More cobalt is used in the de-sulfuring catalyst process for gasoline than in all EVs combined - and a huge amount more in devices like the one you currently typed your completely erroneous comment with. Cobalt is also used to make airbags in automobiles; catalysts for the petroleum and chemical industries; cemented carbides (also called hardmetals) and diamond tools; corrosion- and wear-resistant alloys; drying agents for paints, varnishes, and inks; dyes and pigments; ground coats for porcelain enamels; high-speed steels; magnetic recording media; magnets; and steel-belted radial tires. So, no actually - I can say the same for kids of the world in that almost everything that makes an internal combustion vehicle is worse than an EV. Let me know when you'll be throwing out your smartphone, laptop, and all rechargeable devices and go back to smoke signals and pigeons to reach friends and family - you know, because you're so concerned about the damage you're doing to all those little children being exploited @@angusnz7910
@kenth151
@kenth151 4 месяца назад
I am glad your happy with your EV truck, especially as a Ford shareholder. But I think EVs will never be more than about 40% of market.
@rokrupnik
@rokrupnik 4 месяца назад
And 150kb will be more than enough memory for any pc until eternity.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
We shall see, I guess. But those who are worried about the 'grid collapsing' should consider the point you raise. Adoption will take decades, and might not be as saturated as some anticipate. Thanks for joining in the discussion!
@johnn17golf
@johnn17golf 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs Not to mention, regards the grid, that keeping an EV charged uses about the same amount of electricity per year as running the water tank in your home. We have 20 years to add about 3-4% generating capacity - that is all than needs to be added to for ALL cars on the road to be EV.
@Paul-cj1wb
@Paul-cj1wb 4 месяца назад
The president of Hyundai/Kia in Canada just came out and confirmed that the $60,000 price for a battery was 100% misinformation by anti-EV groups. He said to call them directly rather than going through a dealer (which sometimes can feed that misinformation) when anything like that happens.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I watched it. Too bad the FUD-chuckers won't. Not big fans of facts, I guess. Thanks for commenting!
@DrKellieOwczarczak
@DrKellieOwczarczak 4 месяца назад
I do not have an EV truck yet, but I do have an EV car and my experience is the same as you. The disinformation is just so obnoxious. The only thing I cannot get past the Lightning is that it is a Ford. Waiting for the GMC Sierra EV.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
The Sierra EV and the Silverado EV both look like amazing products. I sure hope they make it to market soon. What EV car do you have? Thank you for commenting!
@DrKellieOwczarczak
@DrKellieOwczarczak 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs I have a Taycan.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
That is a sweet ride! Have you given the Rivian R1T a look, or are you needing the larger truck bed? The Sierra EV Danali is absolutely stunning but I'm wondering when we'll see it in the market, being GM keep unwinding their EV plans @@DrKellieOwczarczak
@DrKellieOwczarczak
@DrKellieOwczarczak 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs I kinda like the Rivian R1T, but yeah, in a perfect world, I would have a 6.5 ft or even 8 ft bed. Either way though, unless the inverters and such are packaged to allow a gooseneck hitch, it would all end up moot, and I would have to get a bumper pull trailer for the horses or just keep the DMax which doesn't get used as much as it should for a lot of reasons.😑
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
I think EV trucks have some work to do on battery density side to be able to tow distances, and the charging infrastructure is laughable for trailers. I think the bugs will take a while, but they'll get there. Thanks for the comments! @@DrKellieOwczarczak
@Hawk89gt
@Hawk89gt 4 месяца назад
The "right environment" to own a gas or diesel truck? What kind of nonsense is that? In an area you can buy fuel? What other possible "environment" would you need to own a fuel powered truck. "Even if it isn't charging, it's doing something"... Yeah, it's using power to keep your battery warm, something a fuel based truck does not need. and to say EV Battery fires are "clickbait"... sorry, that's just ridiculous.
@edwardmeer95
@edwardmeer95 4 месяца назад
If you don't buy a block warmer then a Diesel is useless in the winter.
@scott9352
@scott9352 4 месяца назад
Ya this guy is full of BS. He loses range when it’s freezing and they know it
@edwardmeer95
@edwardmeer95 4 месяца назад
@@scott9352 yes, so does a ice engine till it warms up. Without a block warmer it might take your diesel 5 hours to warm up. Meaning you'll spend more fuel to just drive a mile than you would in the summer in a few hours of driving. Everything sucks in the cold. Even Steam. If you don't know that then you really should keep your mouth shut.
@scott9352
@scott9352 4 месяца назад
@@edwardmeer95 especially EVs that lose their range drastically and it will take you some time to charge.
@edwardmeer95
@edwardmeer95 4 месяца назад
@@scott9352 and in that same cold, your diesel is useless without a block warmer. Heck I remember a few years ago when the Gas froze in all the ice engines in one state because it got below their freezing point. You want to act like an EV is the only one that sucks in the winter. They all suck in the winter. It's just that we have years of learning what to do to keep the blocks warm and the fuel from freezing...... except for steam.
@noelgillett346
@noelgillett346 4 месяца назад
You can have your mobile crematorium. The safety issues and cost-risk profile of the battery tech is insane to the point of the absurd.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
You mean your gas crematorium, right? According to Statista's most recent data, there were around 174,000 vehicle fires reported in 2021, of which a tiny fraction were EVs (18 per year, on average) Here's Motortrend putting this FUD where it belongs - in the toilet: www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/ Isn't math great?
@kenik2023
@kenik2023 4 месяца назад
​@@truckedupevs At least it don't take that much water to put out a ICE fire. Checkmate.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
I didn't realize this was a competition. Buy what you like. No one should force anyone to buy anything. If an EV doesn't work for someone, I get it. But this garbage about battery fires is a laughable joke. If that's what is stopping someone from buying an EV when there are an average +170,000 gasoline vehicle fires annually and an average 16 EV fires, they need a course in elementary school math @@kenik2023 www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/
@izodmartin
@izodmartin 4 месяца назад
So let me get this straight.... Electric vehicles are for people who do not live in apartments or condos, must have 220 line near the parked car, don't tow or carry tools in their truck, not afraid of their truck catching fire and burning for 3 days, can afford to by an extended to cover the $22k battery replacement (oh, by the way, the Hyundai battery failed due a collision and was covered by a warranty of insurance), oh and speaking of insurance it is 22% higher than hybrid or combustion cars. But if all that is good, then by all means, by an EV.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Mostly incorrect. Let me clarify: Many condos and apartment buildings now allow Level 2 chargers to be installed but that's not always the case. If you have to rely on the charging station exclusively - like you would a gas station - it's not a problem in most urban areas but if there is some cataclysm, you might be waiting in line ups. You can tow incredibly well and I keep my ladders, tools and all work equipment in my truck. I clearly stated in the video that 'long haul towing' is not optimal for EV trucks. They can do it, but the charging netwroks have yet to install pull-through stations, which is a pain in the butt with a trailer on the back. No one who owns an ev is 'afraid' of their EV truck catching fire, just like no one is afraid of their gas vehicle, which is eight times more likely to go boom-boom. The standard warranty is three times longer than any standard warranty currently offered on any gas or diesel truck, so no, not at all, but if you'd like to cover yourself even longer, go for it. My insurance rate is no higher. In fsct, my comprehensive insurance rate is lower than an internal combustion ICE F-150. More FUD. And yes, it's all good. Please, keep driving gas and diesel. They are amazing trucks and work darn hard. This video addresses FUD but is not an endorsement to go out and buy one. As you pointed out, there a re many reasons to consider, and the video actually encourages that. Thanks for your in-depth comment. I always appreciate a new perspective and the feedback!
@jamesbarca7229
@jamesbarca7229 4 месяца назад
"Based on the latest media, one would assume that EV trucks are a failed technology..." Well, let's see... They don't perform as advertised (especially in cold weather), you can only get people to buy them by massively subsidizing them and even then sales are cratering, manufacturers are losing huge amounts of money, not enough charging stations and the operators of said stations are losing money, produce huge amounts of pollution in their manufacture which requires many years of use to offset, require huge amounts of raw materials that are in short supply and cause terrible environmental damage to mine, when they catch fire can't be put out by conventional means and are hazmat events, are oftentimes totaled by extremely minor accidents, batteries that aren't recyclable, people who don't live in houses (i.e. a large chunk of the population) can't recharge them at home, tear through tire much faster than ICE vehicles because of their weight... I could go on and on. Based on a preponderance of just part of the evidence, I can safely say that yes, it is a failed technology.
@truckedupevs
@truckedupevs 4 месяца назад
Ahh, the art of FUD. Sprinkle in one or two events out of millions, cherry-pick data, and ignore completely what is currently being used and it's impact. This is some real comedy. Thanks for reinforcing the point of my video and providing us with a good laugh.
@jamesbarca7229
@jamesbarca7229 4 месяца назад
@@truckedupevs One or two events out of millions? Nothing I wrote in any way fits that description. Try again, except this time try actually responding to what I wrote instead of just throwing out a ridiculously weak straw man argument. Talk about providing a good laugh... 😂
@mindcrome
@mindcrome 4 месяца назад
Spin it all you want. I am not spending 50-100k for a god damm truck.
@johnn17golf
@johnn17golf 4 месяца назад
ICE trucks cost more.
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 3 месяца назад
You are too combative to be taken seriously.
@vincealba4280
@vincealba4280 4 месяца назад
Sir please go google the word "coping". It is what your doing and frankly its embarrassing for you. You made a terrible mistake buying a bad product before they were actually fit for purpose, your better off trying to sell the car to some other sucker but I bet youve already taken an absolutely eye watering hit on the value of the car. How much did you pay and whats the going rate now...
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 3 месяца назад
I said he was too combative to be taken seriously.
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