Original Video @LetsGameItOut • I Used Drones to Make ... EVEN MORE NUCLEAR WASTE and Drones - Nuclear Engineer Reacts to Let's Game It Out - Satisfactory
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Nuclear waste in Satisfactory can be reused to make other stuff later. And no, coal power is not better than nuclear in Satisfactory. Even tho it doesnt produce any waste (exept from emissions which you dont care about in this game) nuclear powerplants produce like 5x the electricity (dont qoute me on that)
The game Mindustry has pretty detailed energy production systems. It has coal, solar, geothermal, and nuclear. Possibly other methods of producing energy as well. I don't remember. I think you would have some interesting thing to say about the game, and you might find the way the game works interesting as well.
I have a video idea for you and your extensive knowledge, instead of a reaction videos. I'm curious on your opinion of miniaturization, how small could we make a safe reactor and would it be feasable to have them power houses and vehicles as in the Fallout series of games.
For the record, this is why the lizard doggos can bring you nuclear waste in the game, because the devs have a sense of humour with Josh's insanity. :P
Satisfactory is pretty fun, but it’s not granular in the least when it comes to the individual machines or power plants. It’s more about the logistics and planning of setting up supply and manufacturing chains .
If we had personalized nanobots that fix internal damage on a cellular or even molecular level, we'd probably use inhalers to administer them. Could result in a grey goo catastrophe too but meh...
@@kolyashinkarev7366 Well the entire human body is pretty much a fuel source. If nanobots were developed to maintain some level of activity, they would be designed already with ways of collecting power and if they were meant to be used in the human body it would make sense that they'd probably resupply themselves in a similar way our cells do probably collecting glucose and burning it. In a gray goo situation, instead of collecting only the necessary amount to maintain function, preferably ensuring they don't use more than the body itself needs, they would see every cell in your body as fuel for their reproduction, happily ignoring your safety as they multiply. The dangerous gray goo scenario would be one where the nanobots either already have the ability to use multiple fuel sources, glucose, fossil fuels, solar or have the ability to modify themselves to be and also possess the ability to use a variety of materials to build more of themselves.
@@dazenith4517 they would basically need to be a big multicellular creature with central AI controlling it, which is even more terrifying, giant intelligent mass that consumes and grows uncontrollably
Given the likelihood of potentially fatal injuries if you had AI controlled nano machines inside you and they malfunctioned like this. I’d say there would almost definitely be some kind of emergency kill switch to deactivate them in the event of a life threatening malfunction such as a grey goo event. Of course in this scenario they’d still probably manage to cause some severe damage before a kill switch failsafe could stop them.
@@raymurray3401 The problem with AI and kill-switches is that it doesn't work well, when you add kill-switches, AI-s become, "scared for their lives" and priorize the removal of the kill switch or of anyone that could activate it, over other "orders", that is because even if they are made to follow orders, being "killed" or "deactivated" would prevent them from complying to orders, so they priorize the avoidance of that situation. If you start to give too much priority to the order of the kill switch until they don't do that, you get the opposite, suicidal AIs that will do anything to force you to activate the kill switch.
Obviously they used magic as a moderator before they had water. Also, the only reason he has pipe spaghetti is because he wants to. It's pretty easy to do stacked lines of pipes and conveyor belts in Satisfactory. Kinda like making supply line conveyors in Factorio, but vertical instead of horizontal.
In Satisfactory the power plants are tiered, Biomass burners -> Coal powerplants -> Fuel (Gas / diesel) powered -> Nuclear reactors. So once you go Nuclear you are at your peak in the game. But Nuclear is the only powerplant where the waste is something that makes a gameplay impact... Factorio on the other hand would be fun to see you react to, it has a simpler tiered power system, but the nuclear stuff would be hilarious for you to dig into :D
In Factorio the reactors burn fuel at a constant rate independent of load may be more realistic, but it is compensated by the mechanic of "put a bunch of reactors together so they get hotter and more efficient".
I think I'd actually prefer to see him trying to figure out the mechanics himself, designing and building a nuclear power plant in the game, including mining, refinement and enrichment! I think I have a game save where I am just about to start nuclear power, so with that and a bit of gameplay help, I think it'd make an interesting video!
@@bjrn-oskarrnning2740 Even more interesting it would be for him to try the RBMK reactor simulator. To start the reactor and not blow it up. But yeah, getting nuclear power in Factorio would be interesting as well, though a lot of it is not realistic. IIRC I did not use nuclear power until after launching a few rockets (coal FTW). I used nuclear bombs though.
@@Pentium100MHzactually at this point in the game, all power plants in satisfactory exept biomass also run at constant rate. it was changed a few updates ago, after most of the LGIO videos
Lets Game it Out is hilarious. Most of what he does is break games and see how absurd the game engine will let him get, thus these monstrosities. Satisfactory has done a lot of optimizing based on his game files. I don't think anyone expects Satisfactory to be super realistic, since it's a pretty heavy-handed game about destroying a pristine wilderness with highly polluting factories.
Hot take: We make barrels like that IRL by taking spent nuclear fuel rods, grinding them into dust, and mixing them into green slime (like the type of slime the internet likes to make to play with)
Yeah, this is a good one. And take note that all those reactors required to be fed by a water pipe to work, that means that they were idle, and not producing nuclear waste. The waste moving on the belts is due to the insane length of the belts. When Josh's factory stalls it still looks like it's working thanks to the insane size of it.
2:25 fluids did not exist before this point in dev, so it was just not a consideration i guess also the pipe pulsing is a indicatior for how much water is flowing through, more dialtion of the ring=more throughput.
The reactors not using water was just because fluids weren't implemented in the game yet. From the time nuclear was added we knew fluids were gonna be added to the game and the model for the reactor even showed water inside of it. Not having an intake was just a placeholder design.
Suppose someone wanted to recreate this beautiful nuclear utopia in their mom's potting shed in the backyard, how much would their parent's water bill rise given they have time to build it before the NRC got involved? Lol
Love your videos and love this game! It's a very fun factory building game. In the game's lore you work for a company called Ficsit Corp, and the main thing you need to know about them is that they do not care about ruining an environment. So, while coal plants might not technically produce waste in the game, the pollutants they do produce would be of little to no concern to the company.
I would love to see a reaction to the nuclear reactors in Factorio, largely because it does a lot of things mostly correct like enrichment being done with centrifuges, the fact that unlike the coal plants in Factorio nuclear plants don't follow power demand and instead just continue producing power, and the fact that the uranium ammo is made out of U 238 instead of U 235, but despite all of this the uranium still glows green.
I mean, it is understandeable for uranium to be green and for the more radioactive one to glow green, it may not be realistic, but it conveys that it is uranium, even if uranium is not that way in reality. The same way you make copper metallic brown-orange instead of teal, even tho most exposed copper ,and thus the one you can see, would be teal due to oxidation. It is all about being recognizable.
Coal is in some sort cleaner than nuclear power in Satisfactory. For a coal-power-plant, you need to feed coal and water into the generators, you don't get any waste and there is no pollution system in place except radiation, which doesn't matter here. For nuclear power plants, you need to deal with the nuclear waste. You cannot delete it or get rid of it, the only 2 options are storing it somewhere far away (radiation damages you and spreads around the storage depending on the amount of waste) or recycle it to plutonium. You can then create plutonium fuel rods and "burn" them in your nuclear power plants, but then you get plutonium waste, which cannot be recycled. But you can directly get rid of plutonium fuel rods before burning them and can have a somewhat clean nuclear power setup without any waste (very expensive to build and only available in the endgame). Btw: You should give Satisfactory a try. The game is still early access, but it is already great. And unlike most other games in this genre, it's not too easy. You can expect at minimum 100 hours of fun and headaches in your first playthrough
After many many hours of long hard work in satisfactory, I finally got the nuclear power plant running and it started producing all these green barrels of nuclear waste and I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait wait. This is not realistic 😮 What the hell who made this, this is absolutely stupid.. Also, They have a special item that makes you immune to nuclear radiation, AN IODINE INFUSED GAS MASK 😂😂😂😂😂 🤦♀️🤦♀️ THAT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING
As fun as it is for the story, that graphical glitch with the barrels was just a problem with that version of the game, which has since been fixed. In fact, I think it got fixed before he finished recording this video.
If you like this I’d be interested in seeing your thoughts on the guide for nuclear power in Factorio by Nilaus(looking at each step that is run through, how true to life it is, how you’d change it to be more realistic if you could, etc)
Pocket-dimension technology is perfectly safe as long as proper safety precautions are taken. In fact, it's better than vaults in mountains, cause it produces significantly less waste, which makes it more environmentally friendly. People are just scared of pocket-dimension technology because it's new and more complicated than vaults in mountains, and consequently, the average person won't realisically take the time to learn about how pocket-dimension technology works and understand that the benefits far outweigh the risks.
2:21 They just didn't have any kind of fluid system set up at the time they made the fission power plants, so they just summoned water from THE ABYSS. Just don't question it. :p
And no, coal generators aren't nearly as good as nuclear power in this game. A coal generator produces 75MW and consumes 15 units of coal per minute, whereas the fission plants produce 2,500MW and consumes 1 fuel rod assembly per five minutes. The main downside to nuclear power is that it produces waste you can't get rid of. Coal and uranium are both infinitely available and the devs said that you basically are the bad guy, exploiting the planet as much as possible, so the emissions isn't a thing that matters in game :p
About them needing water now, but not before. Water simply hadn't been added to the game yet at the time the previous video was recorded. The way I understand it, Let's Game It Out made videos on this game before it was fully released, which is why not everything in the game works the way it is supposed to in the finished game. Idk if the game has been released now.
It still isn't fully released, but his videos go right back to the early builds. Just look at the old computer-murdering high-detail power poles in his early videos.
Coal is cleaner than Nuclear in the game, since the game does not technically care about emissions or permanent damage to environment. In fact, you can't even change the environment, you can't even run out of coal. The resources are infinite.
On an alien world where you don't care about the environment (if the local fauna dies, mining and industralisation becomes easier), coal power isn't too bad... Extreme levels of radiation might be bad for you though....
I totally understand why this game would be super annoying to a nuclear engineer, ESPECIALLY because it perpetuates that stereotype of nuclear waste being green and ridiculous. I too am really sad that nuclear is in decline and I think that’s exactly wrong. However, I think you’d enjoy this video a lot more if you’ve played this game before. If you’ve played the game before, you sort of understand both the genre/purpose/it’s not going to be realistic, and you also understand how utterly ridiculous this is in terms of just playing the game. The amount of time this would take is ABSURD. Trying to keep track of everything and where it’s going is ABSURD. Josh literally plays the game to break it and be ABSURD and it is just hilarious and incredibly entertaining if you’ve played the game and understand how much of a pain nuclear is and how much work it is.
I wonder how he would react to the last chapters of the game INFRA. They center around a nuclear power plant. I believe a BWR style. 3 endings based on how you do in the game and the ending.
I mean, any talk about the healing items is kind of silly. This is a game where an inhaled mist made of mushrooms, nuts, and berries can heal bring you from near death to perfect health.
I would like to see you react to nuclear energy in factorio. The game has nuclear powered trains, nuclear waste recycling and different uranium isotopes
The whole reason I'm against nuclear power here in Australia is because of the water requirements. We have the perfect country for solar and not enough fresh water for consumption, let alone for use as a cooling source.
heres a novel idea what about the creation of a space elevator and using that to transport well those dry casks of nuclear waste into space and then using payload assistance modules to push them out into space past earth orbit perhaps towards the sun etc? or a mass driver?
I wouldn't say they *seek* to perpetrate the stereotypes. Like, it's not on the checklist for game development... but yes, the Coal plants are cleaner than the nuclear ones in the game because they have no waste, and the ash coming out of the smoke stack is a particle effect, and there's no CO2 emissions being tracked. Mining coal is safer too in the game. Nuclear produces more electricity per plant and per unit of fuel, and I think eventually you can reprocess the nuclear waste into something useful for total sciencefiction technology. I'd have been happier if they called it unobtanium crystals instead of uranium. Is unobtanium green? Sure! Does the reaction that produces the heat to run the steam turbine produce a green sludge? Why not! Keep the game mechanics and the graphics.
Coal is super bad tbh. 2nd to solid biofuel. The progression afterwards goes to oil based fuel, then oil, coal and sulfer based turbo fuel. And lastly, nuclear. The drawbacks to the last 2, is space. If you don't plan your space ahead, you'll be in big trouble.
A video to react suggestion Brandon Herrera The government nuked north Carolina twice. on topic of video game portraying nuclear power i think only Nuclear craft minecraft mod does somewhat decent job but even it misses alot of details
In terms of the power you're producing coal is vastly inferior to nuclear, but combining the concepts of "ore node means effectively infinite supply of ore and is autominable almost immediately" (well before you have factory-type mining structures you can make small, carryable tripod-mounted machines to dig and store ore for you), "visible smoke isn't tracked and permanently accumulating in the atmosphere" and "water is also an endless resource with supply over time as the limiting factor rather than supply" makes coal not only cleaner than nuclear, it's more renewable than burning biological mass (because harvested plants intentionally never grow back). This is very deliberate in the game design; you are not generating power for the purpose of living here. In all probability, the eventual endgame will be that you've built and lifted into orbit the needed machinery to physically disassemble this entire planet for raw materials. Players are not supposed to be thinking of sustainability or their impact on the environment.
In 6:03, when you were talking about the downsides of coal plants, the whole explanation? For the game (as the previous community manager put it back when he was a community manager) is that you are a worker in a megacorp sent onto a beautiful planet untouched by human life. You go down there, kill the wildlife, extract resources, all ignoring the potential destruction caused. The do have space travel, after all.
Small notice... the whole idea of this game is expansion and that the further you progress the more nature your destroying (either for resources or space) and nuclear power in this game is the most efficient power source.... (BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS) but unlike all other sources it is the only one where you have to directly deal with waste.... and at that point you only have 2 options.... either refine it into plutonium to send it of the planet or use those as fuel... the latter creates a OVERWHELMING amount of power but there is absolutely no (intended) way to get rid of it and seeing as it can only be used for power it will become a permanent burden... besides that there is no (free) anything in this game.... Environmentally friendly doesn't exist in any capacity.... So while the physics are dubious... For the sake of gameplay and so people eventually realise the sheer destruction they have caused that is why things are designed this way.... It is a game i would highly recommend to anyone to at least try out or look into for those exact reasons....
Well it still could've been done without perpetrating harmful stereotypes and misinformation about nuclear power. Maybe add a pollution mechanic for the coal and oil power plants? But right now. It all just seems like badly written anti nuclear propaganda :/
Yea it looks like at this rate you are mostly reacting to the more completley unhinged videos. You might as well look at let's game it out's first satisfactory video then just go down the line.
