@@tttt-wz7zu The only show actually happening, so far is a prequel (Bloodmoon)-- It occurs 10,000-8,000 years before GoT events and is supposed to cover the First Men, origin of the White Walkers, Children of the Forest, building of the Wall, and the beginning of Houses Stark & Lannister. As of right now, HBO executives comment that they plan to do ZERO spin-offs, just the prequel. Some of the "five" shows with HBO mentioned by GRRM have "nothing to do with Westeros." Most likely, the prequel is the only GoT related show. He also has 2 shows planned with Hulu and 1 for the History Channel (some of these he said are short films, so would most likely have nothing to do with GoT). Also, it's confirmed that NONE of these shows, NOR the confirmed prequel will include ANY cast members from GoT (this was additionally confirmed by an HBO executive as well as GRRM). The prequel that's actually in the works will shoot the pilot in June of this year, so definitely will not release until AT EARLIEST first quarter of 2021, nothing in 2020 sadly. Also, it is being co-written and teleplay by the writer behind X-Men: First Class, Kick-Ass and the Kingsman movies, Jane Goldman. Cast confirmed, so far are Naomi Watts, Naomi Ackie, Denise Gough, Jamie Campbell Bower, Ivanno Jeremiah, Georgie Henley, Alex Sharp, Toby Regbo, & Sheila Atim.
If HBO is set on making a GoT spinoff, I would love it if they leaned more into the fantasy and explored Essos and the lands beyond, have the story almost entirely there, with some cameos such as dragons and faceless men.
@@CatMnds Daenerys did have purple contacts when they began filming but apparently they irritated her eyes so harshly that they decided it was best not to use them.
JOBO Yeah even from the books so much of these details are from stories and tales. So it makes you wonder what is true and what is exaggeration or misunderstanding.
Hopefully HBO may pick up the Doom of Valyria-based prequel at one point, The Dragon Demands from the GoT Wiki has a good video series detailing what he knows of it, it’s supposed to be titled “Empire of Ash”, based on what I’ve listened to, it really seems interesting.
The islanders and naathi sound like a pleasant bunch of people, feels oddly nice compared to how chaotic and deadly the rest of the game of thrones universe is
ツ_iTzRiazPvP 2 years? If that’s the case then the game would be shitty. Something like this, as big as the lore is, would take about 5-7 years. Give or take.
Naathi: Please don’t enslave us, or our butterflies will hurt you. : ( Slavers: Really? *Oh no, I’m so scared, what will I ever do?* Butterflies: That’s what the other guy said.
Much like medieval Europe, Westeros is a bit dull and disappointing, compared to several nearby locations. Unlike Westeros, Europe at least had the excuse of a long "dark age," following the fall of Rome.
@@justagamingbulldog9246 I, too, am a fan of Shad. I was mostly exaggerating the lack of technological and social advancement in Medieval Europe, for the sake of drawing a parallel between Medieval Europe vs their neighbors and Westeros vs Essos. That's basically what Westeros is: a caricature of Medieval Europe. Essos is a caricature of Mediterranean Europe, northern Africa, and Asia. The general social-scientific-technological states of Westeros and Essos reflect the social-scientific-technological states of Europe and its neighbors, in a more exaggerated form: Westeros is pulling itself together, out of an age of feudalism, towards a renaissance or age of enlightenment, considering things like the Citadel exist, while Essos does a better job at living up the standards of its forebears, while also slowing decaying and losing cohesion. Slaver's Bay is a great example of this. Cities like Mereen are held together through slavery, when ages ago, they were far more stable, and they didn't rely on slavery. They're slowly decaying husks that are overtly superior to anything in Westeros, but can't be maintained. Basically, Westeros will start colonizing and subjecting various areas in Essos, at some point. It's going to be very questionably ethical, but it will probably happen, if an eldritch apocalypse doesn't screw everything up.
@@justagamingbulldog9246 The North itself might reflect Scotland, and the other Celtic cultures of Britain. The First Men are an older culture with deeper ties to the land that they inhabit, as opposed to the Andals, who are relative newcomers that conquered half what the First Men created. The situation is basically the same between the Celtic cultures and Anglo-Saxons of Britain. The Wall can still be a caricature of Hadrian's Wall, but it doesn't fit a perfect analogy. The Free Folk are still technically First Men, and the Others have a deep connection to the First Men.
@Yarp Yarp Eh, depends on the location in Europe. England, or rather the Anglo-saxon kingdoms that would become England, were still a bit "in the dark" by the 10th century. The "classic" Medieval Period (i.e., in popular culture, when the Middle Ages are depicted, how things generally existed in this specific time frame is depicted) is the 13th or 14th century, in England. That's only a few centuries later.
@@daemonblackfyre3238 1. I should've put "family" in caps too 2. A few other Dragonriders survived the Doom itself, yes. But not for long, and not as a group that could continue exercising power.
Baron Thomas I agree that A Song of Ice and Fire, but most people watching this have only seen the show, and the name Game of Thrones is much widely known. So having GoT in the title instead of SoIaF will result in more views
Most of them aren't mentioned in the books. They're detailed in the extended universe books like A World of Ice and Fire (which I would recommend 100%, it's beautiful)
@@lellymapommscymbillnos336 you mean like knight of the seven kingdom? Because I listened to that as well and I couldn't keep up with the story (I probably need to relisten as well)
@@lellymapommscymbillnos336 I listened through aoudiobook but it flew ove my head . Maybe because each chapter is 1hour and a half (there are six chapters) unlike the main series which is typically around 40 minutes per chapter (I guess it's different between reading times aince you can read in a dofferent pace).
^ It’s a little more complicated than just India or China. There’s a mountain range to the west called the fucking BONE MOUNTAINS made of bones of people & animals attempting to cross the mountains, an island of the tallest humans with the best eye sight and “old gods” to the south who either kill people or curses them and sends them back mad, and a whole freaking area to the east with the oldest city where the citizens don’t even know who/how/when the city (Asshai) was built. ITS CALLED THE SHADOWLANDS. There further north you go in the shadowlands, the more grotesque the creatures get. There’s a city up there that shadow binders (like the red woman) who inhabit Asshai are too scared to go to. And these are the same motherfuckers who eat *basically* radioactive fish from the ash river which runs black in the day & glows green at night with mutated fish. What!! Yi Ti is where the corrupt bloodstone emperor 100x worse and more evil than Joffrey killed the amethyst empress and soon reigned evil terror and he is the one who caused the long night, when the night king and white walkers were created. Though, I’m not quite sure how one thing on one side of the world caused something else on the other side. There’s going to be a spin off series of GoT set in the time during the Long Night and hopefully they go into depth about who the hero was and why so many people ALL over the world share the same ending with the same story of the same hero saving everyone from the long night. Hopefully they go into depth about Asshai and Yi Ti and Leng.
Can you do all the sell-sword companies, histories, major characters, and roles during ASOIF? I had a hard time keeping up with who’s who and what they were doing while reading.
@Dr Boom it's said that Ibbenese rarely get above 5'5", which happened to be the average height for a Neanderthal male. They have sloping foreheads and large brow ridges. The only thing about them that's not very Neanderthal-like is their dark hair, although it wasn't known that Neanderthals were probably gingers until 2007, well after GRRM started writing his series.
Congrats, mate, this was quite well done. One point about the giants: they definitely interbred with humans and created the "half-bloods" as described by Old Nan in the first book. She even described that the females who gave birth to these halfbloods were the giants who liked to take human males to mate, bc the other way was too painful. It's a passage that most women readers will never forget lol
You forgot the Lhazareen, a peaceful culture of shepherds that are commonly raided by the Dothraki. Mirri Maz Duur was Lhazareen. You also missed the Moraqi of Great and Lesser Moraq and the Jade Islanders from Marahai. Edit: oh and also the Elephant Islanders, which is essentially Essos’ India.
So much content for potential spin-offs. I hate the idea of having all of this lore remaining unexplored. Game of Thrones only showed maybe 1/10 of all the races, and I still got 3 mintues of the video left.
I would love to hear more about Essos, it's so fascinating. The show just made it seem like it was all Dothraki, Bravosi and slavers. But it's so much more than that!
“The Old Ones”.... who reside in ruins... thoughts to be gods...... drive those who visit the ruins mad........... I feel as though this is Martin’s way of doing a shoutout and that’s pretty cool.
Just one of several. He uses a lot of Lovecraft references for places and people. Like the Deep Ones sounding like references to the fish people in the Shadow over Innsmouth. Not to mention things like the abandoned city made of oily black stone that not even the forest or wild life dare to claim or even approach.
Alright, here's my pitch. A spin-off that takes place before the doom of Valyria and starts with a disillusioned noble's son stricken with wanderlust. It's his duty to take the mantle of his father the dragon lord, but he could care less about being the leader of one of the 40 noble families. So He runs away with his trusty dragon and lover in the hopes of exploring the world beyond Valyria. On his adventures, he makes new friends, has some close encounters, and ultimately find what he'd been looking for after exploring all 3 continents. It ends with him as an old man with his wife and kids living on an island just far enough to watch the doom consume the first home he'd ever known. Just think about how much content there is to work within the GOT books. The cameo opportunities are limitless. He could meet unsullied, faceless men, giants, dwarfs, Dothraki, Asians, Dark magicians, Flame priests, summer island black people, children of the forest, and even ancient families like the Starks/Targaryans. Plus it can answer a bunch of questions like why magic isn't as common as it used to be, or how advanced were the Valyrians
It's most likely due to misinformation. Everything we know about the world is based on westerosi knowledge and because barely anyone went east of the bone mountains, its likely that there is a lot of misinformation spread around.
It was the case in our world too. Romans and Greeks believed that further east of Persia, before India and China, there were Yetis, people with one giant foot used as an umbrella, cyclops... In medieval Europe people believed that in roughly what is known as Siberia, there were Caine's descendants
Hope those that survived the war in Westeros migrated back to the Dothraki Sea, they should never have gone across the poison water, and instead focus on being a bit more peaceful, ending their infighting, and only raiding enemies
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When you think about the Magic of Dragons and the Nightking ytou think the world is doomed. In the far east which people dont even know about, there could be even crazier magic and monsters
In Yi Ti there are the Five Forts, which are built between Yi Ti and the Grey Waste. They built these massive forts to keep something out of their lands. I wonder what it is that scared them so much to build these forts.
Okay, but I would love to see a G.O.T. spinoff about the counties on the easter most part of Essos. Yi Ti sounds awesome to learn about, and I'd love to see what other countries think about the events that happened in Westeros
Absolutely love your vids, man. Now I can brag about this stuff and say that I’m ASOIF scholar 😂 All jokes aside though, keep up the awesome work bro 🤙🏼
There are still Rhoynar left in Essos, Griff and Jon Connington had some in their crew when they were hiding out. I think there are a good number of Rhoynar, but the majority are Valyrinized down in Volantis or they are highly spread out in small numbers (less than 1 million).
2:47 i remember reading in the books that one valyrian person left the islands of valyria and went west, thus the reason of the daynes having purple eyes
It's very obvious that almost everything there is heavily inspired by medieval, renaissance and victoria-era fantasized orient/past. The mazemakers are the "cylopeans" for instance. Hykoon is Herakles. And so on. Which means that it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have a spin-off in one of those many regions - their whole purpose is to remain mysterious. This is why the further you go, the stranger it becomes. One of the biggest themes of the books and the show is the clash between a believable medieval-like world with its intrigues and politics, and a magical world with prophecies, chosen ones and dragons. One of the last things that happened in the show is precisely "what happens once the chosen one(s) defeat the big bad evil?". If the "magical" world becomes mundane, then the whole structure of GRR Martin's universe collapses.
i think one of the stark lords who had a passion for voyage travelled west only to never return....and the stark heir was so sad that he destroyed the entire stark navy....which is the reason why House Stark doesn't have a navy anymore...
I think a story of a westerosi or es soso adventurer settling in Naath for someone he or she fell in love with and tragically succumbing to the butterfly disease would make for a pretty sick story/spin-off/tale in the lore.
Wasn't there a short race called the Ib ? Related to the Ibenese but not the same that were cleared from the Andalos and the Flatlands by the Andals and the Rhoynar before they conquered Westoros ?
This world is so fantastical to me. I am absolutely obsessed with planetos, and want so much more. I want histories and books, and there is just so much here. I have never been a fantasy person so perhaps my excitement is juvenile, but damn I just love it so much.
A question : Good evening I am a huge fan of ASOIAF series , mainly the books and there for i am a fan of you and your beautiful videos that give me more fun going through all the history and characters of GRRM fiction . I ve read ASOIAF series twice and the untold history ... and a knight of the seven kingdom and just recently i finished reading Fire and Blood , but for the last two years i was trying to get hold of rogues an dangerous women and the sons of the dragon , but i think i shouldn't , because all those three short stories from GRRM are in Fire and Blood , but i am raely not sure since i could find a proof of my suspicious , so i hope i can get an advise from you . thank you Best Regards